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Neal Rauhauser Is Present to Watch Brett Kimberlin Beaten in Court Yet Again

Filed under: Brad Friedman,Brett Kimberlin,General,Neal Rauhauser — Patterico @ 11:10 pm

Aaron Worthing won the appeal of Brett Kimberlin’s peace order against him, but that was a foregone conclusion. Congratulations to him and everything, I guess, but it’s like congratulating the sun for rising again.

Here are the parts that, while also unsurprising, are well worth noting:

1) Kimberlin thinks it’s harassment to defend yourself in one of his frivolous legal actions:

Of course the highlight of the hearing came when my attorney sought to cross examine Kimberlin. Of course he gave Kimberlin an epic cross-examination back on April 11, but today he was more focused but equally effective. Interestingly, he didn’t go through the entirety of Kimberlin’s criminal history, or indeed any of it. But he did ask Kimberlin about when I was SWATted, about a week and a half ago and Kimberlin went into a rage at the suggestion. He called it a “despicable” question, falsely claiming that I and others had blamed him for it “without a shred of evidence” (in fact when I wrote about the SWATting, and talked about it on the radio, I was careful not to blame him because I can’t prove he had anything to do with it). But he was absolutely furious at even the simple question of whether or not he was involved in it, shaking his finger at my attorney in rage and saying to him, “You’re harassing me” by even asking the question. That is, a lawyer asking a person a question in court is harassment, according to Kimberlin.


2) Neal Rauhauser is with Brett Kimberlin all the way, baby. All. The. Way.

And there is one other thing to note. Neal Rauhauser was there again, and seen exchanging documents with Kimberlin, further verifying their connection.

But those facts were not just true today. Please note this tidbit from a commenter:

I happened to see the Norton v Kimberlin and Kimberlin v Norton event.

Kimberlin claimed that “they” were harassing him when Norton’s attorney asked him if he was convicted for perjury.

Rauhauser was there, too.

P.S. Kimberlin said it was harassment when Seth Allen filed a responsive pleading in the lawsuit Kimberlin filed against Seth Allen.

So there is a clear pattern here: Kimberlin initiates a legal action, generally frivolous, and if the opposing party has the nerve to defend himself, Kimberlin calls it harassment.

And has Neal Rauhauser helping him out.

P.P.S. If you think this is the end of all this, you’re mistaken:

I am extraordinarily grateful to @OccupyRebellion for these tweets. They are money in Aaron’s pocket. Money he needs, because as @OccupyRebellion makes quite clear, the lawfare did not end today. Why, it’s just beginning! And they’re damned proud of it!

So go to Aaron’s site and hit one of the donation buttons.

Do it for @OccupyRebellion.

Or do it for the “so-called First Amendment.”

I just did. You should too.

FLASHBACK: If only someone had talked about Neal Rauhauser’s connection to Brett Kimberlin a long time ago!

Oh, wait! Someone did — one year ago today:

July 5, 2011

Neal Rauhauser’s New Friend: Brett Kimberlin, Speedway Bomber; Rauhauser Asks Kos Kids for a Picture of My Wife

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  1. Hi, Neal!

    Comment by Patterico (feda6b) — 7/5/2012 @ 11:25 pm

  2. The last time I said that, I was SWATted about 3 hours later.


    Comment by Patterico (feda6b) — 7/5/2012 @ 11:25 pm

  3. I watched OccupyRebellion meltdown on Twitter as it was happening.

    I also think Aaron should take heed…this is not over in their eyes.

    Comment by Dustyn H (2aef62) — 7/5/2012 @ 11:37 pm

  4. That’s why you need to do what I did, and go donate.

    Hi, Darrah!

    Comment by Patterico (feda6b) — 7/5/2012 @ 11:41 pm

  5. Those who are paying close attention know I have had a handle on this for a year now.

    Comment by Patterico (feda6b) — 7/5/2012 @ 11:42 pm

  6. That is really creepy that they brought some thug along. Maybe it was Rauhausers date? *Sorry, couldn’t help that one.

    Comment by Noodles (3681c4) — 7/5/2012 @ 11:46 pm

  7. The fact that Kimberlin and Rauhauser go to court together means they have a deeper common cause together. They are buds in it for the long haul. They think they can win.

    Their actions are so ill considered to me that I think what gives them confidence is that someone is donating them a lot of money. Last year and this year. I was thinking SEIU. Brothers in arms.

    Both are pathological liars that depend on confusion, naivety, and time to defray the efforts of their opponents. Modern day parasites looking for victims and rationalizing their existence as productive.

    They depend on people not looking at them. Not examining them. Not holding them accountable.

    Comment by scable (40a8c6) — 7/5/2012 @ 11:47 pm

  8. @5 That is true. I didn’t buy all that back then because I didn’t know anything about those people. I thought Lee’s jaded texter was more plausible. Nothing is more or less plausible in WeinerTown.

    Comment by Noodles (3681c4) — 7/5/2012 @ 11:48 pm

  9. More ATM tweets from hate tweet hag OccupyRebellion. She just can’t help herself these days.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/6/2012 @ 12:42 am

  10. Comment by Patterico — 7/5/2012 @ 11:41 pm

    Darrah is someone from the Weinergate stuff right?
    I didn’t follow all that, so I am out of the loop there. I mainly followed the Breitbart sites about that story.

    I wish I could afford to donate to Aaron…all I can do is offer some moral support.

    Comment by Dustyn H (2aef62) — 7/6/2012 @ 12:54 am

  11. Oh and yes….OccupyRebelliion is melting down again. I hear a woman screeching when I read her tweets.

    “What is wrong with you people”

    Comment by Dustyn H (2aef62) — 7/6/2012 @ 12:56 am

  12. What is wrong with the courts that such lawfare harassment can proceed for so long and against so many victims?

    I hate to say this, but should there be a law against lawfare?

    Comment by Brad (668bf6) — 7/6/2012 @ 1:03 am

  13. No law against using the courts, and good luck getting frivolous actions sanctioned.

    If you want to make a difference you have to donate to Aaron.

    In @OccupyRebellion’s name.

    Tomorrow I pledge to give $1 to Aaron for every tweet she makes disparaging him, up to $50. This way she will know that every time she hits that enter button — cha-CHING! It’s money in Aaron’s pocket.

    I would have done the same for other victims if they had not turned on me.

    Comment by Patterico (feda6b) — 7/6/2012 @ 1:10 am

  14. Is Darrah one of Weiner’s ex-bimbos or Rauhauser’s ex-wives in addition to being a porn blogger?

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/6/2012 @ 1:15 am

  15. You know its getting bad when you have to worry about defending your 6th Amendment rights while defending your 1st Amendment rights.

    Comment by Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 7/6/2012 @ 1:22 am

  16. $10 here, $10 there, and pretty soon you’re talking about some real money.

    Comment by Pious Agnostic (7c3d5b) — 7/6/2012 @ 4:12 am

  17. I hate to say this, but should there be a law against lawfare?

    Comment by Brad

    I’m not sure a SLAPP protection would do much in a peace order process. The process in Maryland is meant to help those in urgent need, and its abuse in this case shows some fundamental problems with that setup. I think Maryland’s entire attitude about such matters is backwards, and unlikely to change.

    I would like to see serious SLAPP reforms in this state, anyway. They had an effort that failed recently.

    But would it help? I don’t think so. I think they get judgment proof proxies to sue with promises of easy $20,000 payoffs. They are not good people, but they are pretty clever and can find a way around most obstacles. I mean, this isn’t the first time Aaron defeated Brett at the circuit court level. They dust themselves off and try again, adapting. It’s pretty horrifying once you realize just how far they are probably willing to go. You almost wish they continue to think there’s some use to playing this out in the legal system, because when they realize there isn’t… they will adapt.

    Comment by Dustin (330eed) — 7/6/2012 @ 4:19 am

  18. Like Elinor Rigby, no one will come to Rauhauser and Kimberlin’s funerals.

    Comment by PCD (b117b3) — 7/6/2012 @ 4:59 am

  19. 18- didn’t bother to double check the spellling on that one before hitting the submit button?

    Comment by tye (0b3f3e) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:01 am

  20. @Tye[19]: It’s good to see your petty malice. Keep it up!

    Comment by phunctor (6e8a27) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:15 am

  21. Kimberlin likely learned the “buddy system” in prison.

    Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:49 am

  22. “Kimberlin likely learned the “buddy system” in prison.”

    Comment by nk

    grateful teh coffee hasn’t finished brewing yet.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (c7fc59) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:06 am

  23. I wonder if the tye troll disintegrates in the sunlight like a vampire? I also what Democrat group home it lives in.

    Comment by PCD (1d8b6d) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:37 am

  24. I also what Democrat group home it lives in.

    Engrish, PCD, engrish…

    Comment by tye (0b3f3e) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:47 am

  25. No need for you to hang out in this thread, trollalicious.

    Comment by Icy (e77123) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:56 am

  26. I know he was a psychopath, a dangerous person, and while devious, almost helpless when an opportunity to lie presents as he cannot resist the delight of it.

    The pattern above, though …the absurdity of his reaction (harassment!) to legal proceedings that while not only not usual, are called for ii the defense against his vexatious claims, that test or thwart his control of the narrative and the proceedings themselves…. That seems to me not just a tactic, but perhaps the result of frank mental illness

    Maybe I’m wrong, maybe it worked for him once or twice so it in his bag of “I’m the victim” devices.

    A counterproductive effect, though, is more likely – a revelation to the court he has an irrational notion of what constitutes haraassment. This seems to me less a smart calculation than a blind spot or deficit.

    Comment by Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:57 am

  27. That’s a fun donation scheme, P.

    Comment by Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:59 am

  28. That seems to me not just a tactic, but perhaps the result of frank mental illness

    Thinking over it again, I see your point.

    Perhaps one way he is such a great hustler is that he convinces himself, absolutely, of his hustle. I’m sure he comes across as very, very sincere. Unfortunately, this makes it impossible to reason him out of his behavior.

    a revelation to the court he has an irrational notion of what constitutes haraassment.

    It seems to have played out this way. Like a confession that when he says harassment he is describing normal, even necessary behavior. Being cross examined on his charges by the defendant’s lawyer is necessary and the result of Kimberlin’s decisions.

    Comment by Dustin (330eed) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:02 am

  29. Not having anyone in his ever dwindling inner circle who is capable of, or willing to, see reality and speak truth to him may be another factor, too, Sarahw.

    Comment by elissa (17d5c0) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:08 am

  30. The “Hi, Darrah!” comment was not directed at any commenter here. Just a reference to my belief that she’s reading.

    Hi, Darrah!

    Comment by Patterico (86062d) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:11 am

  31. 24, sanity tye troll, sanity. As Dragline in Cool Hand Luke said, “You ain’t got nuttin’!”

    Comment by PCD (1d8b6d) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:24 am

  32. I really can’t wait to read the transcripts from the hearing yesterday.

    I’ve known people like BK before. They do believe their own BS so much that they forget it is BS in the first place.

    Comment by Dustyn H (2aef62) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:28 am

  33. The little pairing of Brett Kimberlin and Neal Rauhauser seems odd to me … I mean, Neal does not look 12 years old …

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:42 am

  34. @Dustyn, I’ve seen that among some politicians.

    Speaking of, back when I had a state level gov’t job, once in a while a politician would sneak around and sabotage a gov’t service that was actually working so he could don his super hero costume, call the news media, and make a big fuss about how he was going to straighten things out. (And generally made things worse than ever.)

    Shades of chutzpah and Murchinson Syndrome. Is there a term for the political ploy?

    Comment by Phillep Harding (1b8b26) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:42 am

  35. Speaking of sabotage, when Kimberlin admitted in the book that he sabotaged military wiring, I had wished I had the money to file FOIA requests to find out where those wirings were delivered and how they were used. Afterall, if they were used in planes and an incident report came out that certain wirings failed to work properly, it could hypothetically be blamed on Kimberlin. However the downside of this is that it’s during his prison term which was in the early 80′s so it could be impossible to find out.

    Comment by Kaitian (2dba03) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:03 am

  36. I cannot comment at Aaron’s site, because I cannot get past the weird letters (my vision). Some advice:

    1) Learn the law inside out. “Shepardize” every statute and case;
    2)Put your argument in writing, as a motion/ answer/reply/memorandum of law;
    3)The gist of it should be in the first three lines;
    4)File it at the no-fee counter to be put in the record;
    5)Courtesy copy to the judge;
    6)Never interrupt the judge;
    7)Never interrupt opponent unless it’s “Objection,…”
    8)Always demand procedure: “Your Honor, I present my case, he presents his case, I rebut.”
    Don’t be afraid to say Due Process at every opportunity.
    9) Lawyering is hard work. The court will not do it for you. You prepare until 4:00 a.m for a 9:00 a.m. court. And you have won before stepping up to the bench.

    Comment by nk (875f57) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:08 am

  37. Are we sure Seth Allen is not taking the same crazy pills as Occupy Rebellion?

    After reading what he wrote there I don’t know weather to laugh or cry.

    Comment by Dustyn H (2aef62) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:23 am

  38. Popping in to mention this guy:

    I don’t remember seeing his site linked anywhere, but then again I’ve been a bit busy.

    Comment by RosalindJ (46b24e) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:27 am

  39. Let’s be glad that all Kimberlin and Rauhauser exchanged in court were documents.

    Comment by Rob Crawford (c55962) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:07 am

  40. Patrick, please do ignore that Sheridan guy. Don’t even acknowledge him on your site. The guy is an attention whore craving to be mentioned anywhere, anyplace.

    Comment by Kaitian (701b82) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:32 am

  41. Dustyn H, yes, Seth has been taking a lot of crazy pills.

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 10:40 am

  42. In my part of the country, another legal case asking if comments on your own Facebook profile can be considered “contact”.
    Story here.

    Comment by John T (97787f) — 7/6/2012 @ 12:17 pm

  43. Ladies and gentlemen of the supposedjury, it does not make sense. Look at me. I’m a convicted perjuror, document forger, and serial bomber who caused mayhem and death and was sent back to prison for deliberately evading pay,ent of a wrongful death judgment againt me, and i’m talking about my reputation and honor and my personal right to have no one drive down my street especially if they are part of a metaphor. Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None

    Comment by Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/6/2012 @ 12:20 pm

  44. Neal Rauhauser is with Brett Kimberlin all the way, baby. All. The. Way.

    Which one of these two is the boss?

    I’ve always thought here it is far more likely to be Neal.

    Brett Kimberlin is not doing all of this on spec.

    It’s possible that Brett needs a little bit more supervision than before, so Neal is there all the time.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 7/6/2012 @ 12:42 pm

  45. Kimberlin/Rauhauser’s/OccupyRebellion’s (Rauhauser? Kimberlin? Whoever?) strategy sessions: being an asshole isn’t working… maybe being an asshole will work!”

    Comment by deepelemblues (c49e43) — 7/6/2012 @ 1:16 pm

  46. Mr. P, if this post is an example of you when you’re “tired”, I tremble at the thought of you being feisty and refreshed!

    (In case my tone-of-keyboard didn’t come across correctly, I’m behind you and Aaron 100% — about 50 meters behind, ready to dive for the underbrush, but behind you nonetheless.)

    I’m off to donate. Thanks for what you guys are doing.

    Comment by Rick Buchanan (079768) — 7/6/2012 @ 1:24 pm

  47. Mr. P, if this post is an example of you when you’re “tired”, I tremble at the thought of you being feisty and refreshed!

    (In case my tone-of-keyboard didn’t come across correctly, I’m behind you and Aaron 100% — about 50 meters behind, ready to dive for the underbrush, but behind you nonetheless.)

    I’m off to donate. Thanks for what you guys are doing.

    Comment by Rick Buchanan (079768) — 7/6/2012 @ 1:24 pm

  48. Comment by SPQR — 7/6/2012 @ 10:40 am

    Seth has been taking a lot of crazy pills.

    He’s probably just been talking to Ron Brynaert, and taking his word for things.

    So now he says:

    What Aaron was primarily doing along with Frey, Nagy, and Dustin Farahnak was conning me into thinking Ron Brynaert was working with BK and Neal.

    He didn’t take note by the way that one of his commentators said the same at 12:28 PM

    ….Neal leads Brett. Without Neals computer knowledge and understanding of the internet,etc., BK would be lost. Neal and Ron go way back to the days of the Gaped Crusaders. You may already know that, if not, I would suggest investing some research time. There are crusaders still out there that Ron is in touch with.

    Emphasis mine.

    He did pick it up finally at 3:37:

    Ugh, I missed the implication of what one of the anonymous said above. Ron does not work with Neal. That was probably the psychopath himself slipping in some disinfo. This is what happens when I’m not in full censorship mode. Hopefully the few good people out there will continue to watch my back. If I make a mistake, please let me know.

    So that’s that. He think Ron B is being truthful and everybody else is liar.

    July 6, 2012 3:37 PM

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 7/6/2012 @ 2:43 pm

  49. Are we sure Seth Allen is not taking the same crazy pills as Occupy Rebellion?

    He is having an emotional and immature reaction to not getting a lot of money and fame when this story broke. So he is lashing out at the people he considers responsible. The facts don’t really matter; it’s all about revenge against me and people around me.

    Comment by Patterico (feda6b) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:24 pm

  50. And, he is sucking up to other people who are trying to trash me.

    It’s actually quite pathetic.

    Comment by Patterico (feda6b) — 7/6/2012 @ 5:57 pm

  51. Patterico – Well, he is the only “academic” involved in this whole thing, so there is that to consider.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:00 pm

  52. According to him, I meant to say.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:01 pm

  53. Patterico, besides the emotional lashing out, and the immaturity, the whacko conspiracy theories are unbelievably … well, whacko. When I saw some bizarre nonsense about Rauhauser being in league with Breitbart, I figured he was in need of a commitment hearing.

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 6:44 pm

  54. And, he is sucking up to other people who are trying to trash me.

    It’s actually quite pathetic.

    Comment by Patterico

    Not…a certain “husky, pony-tailed” blogger? Please tell me Seth Allen retains a little more dignity than that?

    Comment by Dianna (f12db5) — 7/6/2012 @ 7:47 pm

  55. Dianna, not gonna tell you something untrue …

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 7/6/2012 @ 8:32 pm

  56. Could Kimberlin be declared a vexatious litigant?

    Comment by Alan Kellogg (297baa) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:14 pm

  57. Re: Seth

    I have been saying for a while now that he appears envious.

    I do think it is pathetic. I feel sorry for him, in a way.

    He needs to put on his big boy pants and stop acting like a two year old screaming, “Mine! Mine! Mine!”

    Comment by Dustyn H (2aef62) — 7/6/2012 @ 9:55 pm

  58. I’m not seeing how this will end by being civil, or until the tables are turned and this guy is frivously sued multiple times and forced to defend himself.

    Comment by O.J. (27f28b) — 7/7/2012 @ 7:53 am

  59. I wish folks wouldn’t pay as much attention to the thugs who are trying to damage Aaron or whomever with bad faith claims.

    Don’t feed the trolls.

    Comment by Dustin (330eed) — 7/7/2012 @ 8:15 am

  60. how dopey are BK and his helpful assistants? Not getting that whole sec 230 thing, I guess.

    Comment by Sarahw (b0e533) — 7/7/2012 @ 8:38 am

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