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6/20/2012

Transparency

Filed under: General — JD @ 7:03 am

[Guest post by JD]

Teh Won is nothing if not transparent.

Obama could have set the example first by forcing disclosure on his own side before siccing the lawyers on his critics.  He’s not interested in transparency … only in intimidation.

– JD

51 Responses to “Transparency”

  1. Intimidation of private citizens, one of their emerging hallmarks.

    JD (8eed5e)

  2. And now there is breaking news that Obama grants Holder request to exert executive privilege over “Fast and Furious” documents…
    Transparency is this administration’s middle name…

    Sue (08f1cf)

  3. National Soros Radio has president food stamp’s back on this…. here’s their lead story today

    Big Political Donors Shy Away From Public Scrutiny

    Yawn.

    Speaking of transparency this whole sorry situation goes back to Meghan’s coward daddy’s transparent attempt to get the S&L corruption stink off his ass so he could assume the presidency what he was entitled to.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  4. I think that when people look back from the space of a few years, today, June 20, 2012 will be remembered as a very important day in history with respect to the “meeting” of the administration’s and congress’ actions.

    elissa (29f6c8)

  5. This is nothing but admission that the administration is complicit in allowing those guns to be walked into Mexico, killing over 300 Mexicans and several of our border agents.

    Kaitian (bffc80)

  6. There are only two possibilities: either Obama was intimately involved in “Fast&Furious” or their is a laughably bad attempt to assert privilege. If it’s the former, Holder has repeatedly lied under oath about Obama’s noninvolvement. If it’s the latter it strains Obama’s credibility about his understanding of privilege. A law enforcement operation like this in no way can be considered of national security concern. This is Nixonian.

    Good work, fellas. The Romney campaign is popping the corks on sparkling nonalcoholic cider as I type this.

    Bugg (b8d514)

  7. Media is asleep, carrying water for Obama, (insert cliche), etc.

    AZ Bob (1c9631)

  8. This is interesting to me because it goes beyond Holder’s stonewalling and covering up. Obama is definitely and visibly moving to hide these documents… the question is, for whom is he hiding them? Himself, Holder, both or …?

    Book (956833)

  9. Powerful stuff from From Ed at Hot Air:

    The assertion of executive privilege creates a huge problem for the White House. As Rep. Darrell Issa said today at the Fast & Furious hearing, Attorney General Eric Holder and other DoJ officials have repeatedly asserted that the White House and President Obama had no involvement or knowledge of the gun-running operation. If that was true, then executive privilege cannot apply. That only relates to the President, as that office is separately elected and accountable to the voters. Attorneys General answer to both the President and to Congress, and do not have executive privilege.
    In other words, this could very well be analogous to the Watergate scandal. One has to wonder what those documents contain that would force the Obama administration to risk this kind of scandal by first refusing to comply with the subpoenas and then issuing a de facto admission that Obama himself was involved in the operation and/or its aftermath.

    elissa (29f6c8)

  10. Welly, welly, welly, well, what have we here?

    A Border Patrol agent dead under suspicious circumstances, guns found at the murder scene linked to undercover ATF operations, a White House employee suddenly sent to Iraq and kept out of Congressional reach, an Attorney General repeatedly lying under oath, stonewalling, and attempting to evade lawful oversight, and now the President puts his own head in a tightening noose.

    Dice are rolling and the knives are out!

    ropelight (14ec8b)

  11. “Everything about them is a lie, including “and” and “the”!

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  12. Campaigns going at it each other? Goodness my we can’t have that!

    sheldon (01dabf)

  13. By the way, he may not know all, but I’m betting Issa already knows much of what is contained in those documents that the administration so fears being made public. (I think a lot of congressional democrats know, too.)

    elissa (29f6c8)

  14. Way to minimize and trivialize the deaths of hundreds of people as a result of an illegal, secret, taxpayer funded operation, “sheldon”.

    elissa (29f6c8)

  15. Nothing to see here, especially details about all of the weapons supplied to the Mex-Cartels used to kill Mexicans, while I’m courting the Latino/Hispanic vote in this Fall’s election.
    -B.H.Obama, President-for-Life

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  16. ___________________________________________

    Welcome to the Banana Republic of America, aka Obama Land.

    BTW, when the guy in the White House said a few days ago that the private sector was doing well, most published reports on his comment left out the following portion of his assertion. He said that, by contrast, the government wasn’t doing well — that local and state governments were being forced to lay off workers — and therefore needed more of our support (ie, tax money).

    Mark (22baad)

  17. Also it cane argued the RNC and Romney campaigns would probably prefer to focus on the economy. This is beyond political. Brian Terry is dead because of this policy and the Obama Administration doesn’t want …something…released. Today brings this to some new level that introduces a new crazy variable to this presidency.

    One other possibility; Holder is simply an incompetent buffoon, pushed up beyond his ability due to AA. And Obama, of similar background, simply indulges his pal without caring about the consequences. Recall the Marc Rich mess. Holder maintained he had never heard of Rich prior t his appointment to study the pardon application, which means either he is a fool or a liar.

    Any decent young ADA knows; release everything, all the Rosario, as soon as possible. You get into way more trouble arguing against release of documents. If you want some data specifically redacted or withheld, only as to that specific date get a judicial order. Holder isn’t sharp enough to even do that.

    Bugg (b8d514)

  18. Campaigns going at it each other? Goodness my we can’t have that!

    This is far more than campaigning, and it’s a rich slap in the face to the Terry family and to the hundreds of murdered across the border to suggest that it’s nothing more than politics.

    How long has this investigation been going on? How long has Issa been asking for the emails from Holder and how long has Holder been stonewalling? That it’s at this point, is entirely Holder and President Obama’s fault (and responsibility). The chose to take it this far, the chose to deny the request of the committee.

    I think our President and AG are big boys and should be allowed to fully bear the responsibility of where this stands now. Any consequences are theirs to own, too.

    Dana (4eca6e)

  19. “Campaigns going at it each other? Goodness my we can’t have that!”

    sheldon – Holder did confess during his last appearance before Congress that he was coordinating his response with Axelrod and others at the White House, but I have seen no reports of contact between Romney and Issa. A typically one-sided comment from you, cupcake.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  20. Bennie just said steady as she goes thru 2012.

    After Goldman said yesterday QE on tap.

    Youse gonna sleep wit dat fishies Barky.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  21. _______________________________________________

    Holder isn’t sharp enough to even do that.

    I’m not sure what’s worst, or more of the reason for the way they are: Sheer stupidity or wanton arrogance and nonchalant dishonesty, all enveloped in flaky leftism.

    This very likely reflects upon and symbolizes people along the lines of Obama and Holder. I would think the characteristics of the boss or upper echelon naturally filters down to the lower ranks of a hierarchy or bureaucracy:

    Foxnews.com: Long before President Obama’s security detail was scandalized in Colombia and new revelations emerged last week about the Secret Service, members of the elite team earned an “Animal House” reputation at the blueblood vacation mecca of Martha’s Vineyard.

    Local residents say wild parties, fights and late-night carousing involving Secret Service members have become commonplace in recent years at the Vineyard, a favorite getaway for the First Family and longtime destination for upper-crust members of the Northeastern political, media and business establishment.

    “I expect parties during the summer. People come here to have fun — they’re on vacation,” said a resident who lives in the East Chop section of Oak Bluffs, near the six-bedroom Victorian mansion whose owners dubbed it the Secret Service’s “party house,” after agents staying in a cluster of adjacent homes converged on it for late-night soirees. “But I didn’t think it’d be Secret Service people here protecting the president.”

    The owner of a six-bedroom home rented out the last two summers to the same Secret Service team that got in trouble in South America showed FoxNews.com a bullet he said was left behind by the agents and said CAT agents let neighborhood children and other residents handle their weapons.

    More alarmingly, he said the men told him details of presidential security plans and logistics.

    “They left ammo behind, they told me things they shouldn’t have been telling me, things they shouldn’t be telling anyone about the details about how they protect the president. They let us hold their weapons, see all their stuff, they had huge house parties,” said the man, who spoke to FoxNews.com with his wife on the condition they not be named.

    Mark (22baad)

  22. “This is far more than campaigning, and it’s a rich slap in the face to the Terry family and to the hundreds of murdered across the border to suggest that it’s nothing more than politics. ”

    Both of these links are about the FEC complaint. Am I the only one that noticed that?

    sheldon (01dabf)

  23. Brace yourself boys and girls, for those of you who weren’t of age back in the mid-70′s, we’re going to hear Richard Nixon’s Watergate words coming out of Barack Obama’s mouth in defense of a bogus claim of Executive Privilege.

    Fast-n-Furious is on-track to go down in history as Watergate redux. You may not have been around when Nixon resigned the Presidency, but early indications promise the Obama Administration’s Waterloo will deliver all the drama and impact of the original.

    ropelight (14ec8b)

  24. “Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this Presidency”

    - President Obama 2008

    Dana (4eca6e)

  25. Byron York just tweeted this:

    Issa: Holder now retracts claim that AG predecessor, Michael Mukasey, knew about F&F-like program.

    Hm…

    Dana (4eca6e)

  26. Comment by Kaitian — 6/20/2012 @ 8:00 am

    This is nothing but admission that the administration is complicit in allowing those guns to be walked into Mexico, killing over 300 Mexicans and several of our border agents.

    I think they are protecting somebody, but most likely not because they wanted these guns to be walked but because that somebody did something else political for them.

    And again, nobody seems to be following up on the guns that were sent to Honduras. That might be worse.

    http://latitude.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/07/venezuelas-murder-rate-unmatched-among-middle-income-countries/

    …Venezuela is one of just five countries in the world to average more than 40 murders per 100,000 people between 2005 and 2010. The other four are far smaller, far poorer countries in Central America and the Caribbean: El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Jamaica.

    Anger Rises After Killings in U.S.-Honduras Drug Sweep

    For Honduras, a small, poor country with one of the world’s highest murder rates, the challenge is intensified by the local terrain. The area where the shooting occurred is a known trafficking route accessible from nearby cities only by plane or boat. It is an area dominated by indigenous tribes and airstrips in sections of cleared jungle — airstrips seen by American surveillance as being used as a transfer point for cocaine moving from Venezuela or Colombia to Mexico, and then to the United States.

    By one American government estimate, 79 percent of all cocaine shipped to the United States passes through Honduras.

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  27. Elijah Cummings–ranking Dem on the Oversight Committee said that Holder is being held to an impossible standard. Issa is trying to force Holder to give up documents that he is “prohibited from producing”.

    Now I know that Congressman Cummings graduated Phi Beta Kappa from Howard University–so he’s presumably a pretty smart fella.

    But that statement by Cummings would imply that the documents in question came from the White House. Does he realize that this makes the stink stick to The Bamster?

    Comanche Voter (dc4fc0)

  28. Comment by Mark — 6/20/2012 @ 9:30 am

    BTW, when the guy in the White House said a few days ago that the private sector was doing well, most published reports on his comment left out the following portion of his assertion. He said that, by contrast, the government wasn’t doing well — that local and state governments were being forced to lay off workers — and therefore needed more of our support (ie, tax money).

    No, I think that was there. It was the Romney ad, and reports deriving from the Romney ad, that left out the bit about the public sector.

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  29. Today’s events may well be the straw that finally allows more Democrat politicians and pundits to subtly ease themselves away from the president’s floundering campaign. Surely some of the more sane ones will simply not be able to pretend anymore– nor continue to be willing to blame the administration’s abject incompetence and lawlessness with respect to F&F on “residual racism” or on nasty partisans just “picking” on poor Barack and Eric.

    elissa (29f6c8)

  30. 23. And in that case it was Nixon’s taping of whatever for posterity that caused the trouble.

    This time the coverup is really quite necessary.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  31. 29. Indeed, with the Black Caucus of race hustler’s running point cover will be hard to come by.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  32. Comanche Voter — 6/20/2012 @ 10:14 am

    You might want to recall what Elijah Cummings said to Brian Terry’s father at an early oversight committee hearing. Cummings promised the grieving father that every effort would be made to find out what happened the night his son was murdered and that the killers would be brought to justice.

    ropelight (14ec8b)

  33. The One now channels his inner Richard M. Nixon. Levin has been calling him Milhouse for months. Appears Levin is as usual ahead of the curve. Cheers -

    agimarc (324b03)

  34. Transparency is this administration’s middle finger
    Comment by Sue — 6/20/2012 @ 7:20 am

    – FIFY

    Icy (9f6107)

  35. Campaigns going at it each other? Goodness my we can’t have that!
    Comment by sheldon — 6/20/2012 @ 9:12 am

    – sheldon thinks this is a political football for both sides.

    This makes him an equal opportunity idiot.

    Icy (9f6107)

  36. I can’t be the only one that noticed two links to articles about the campaign, can I?

    sheldon (01dabf)

  37. The One now channels his inner Richard M. Nixon. Levin has been calling him Milhouse for months.

    Milhous. Please.

    Milhouse (312124)

  38. elissa (#18), Dana (#19), daleyrocks (#19), and Icy (#35), what are you talking about? What is the subject of this post? Much as it pains me to say so, I think you all owe sheldon an apology. The subject of his comment is very obvious, and your misunderstanding him is completely the result of your own carelessness.

    Sheldon is quite right that this is just “Campaigns going at it each other”. The 0bama campaign files a complaint against a conservative group that’s hurting it; the target replies “why are you not filing complaints against people on your own side who are doing the same thing?”. The obvious answer is “because that’s not our job”. The 0bama campaign is not meant to be impartial. By all means let the Romney campaign do the same to the lefty groups.

    Milhouse (312124)

  39. No, Milhouse that’s not how it works, ask the funders of ALEC’s ‘Stand your Ground’ law, the CEO of Melaleuca, the folks behind proposition 8, in California, some years back.

    narciso (8bfa44)

  40. No, Milhouse that’s not how it works, ask the funders of ALEC’s ‘Stand your Ground’ law, the CEO of Melaleuca, the folks behind proposition 8, in California, some years back.

    Um, what?

    Milhouse (312124)

  41. The Sorosphere, uses disclosure as a weapon,

    narciso (8bfa44)

  42. Yes, and therefore?

    Milhouse (312124)

  43. Milhouse, if you feel “sheldon” is due an apology please feel free to offer one to him on all our behalfs. It was quite obvious from comment two on, that the majority of commenters on this thread had gravatated to a discussion if the then breaking news about Obama’s executive privilege announcement and were discussing Fast and Furious. Sometimes threads wander a bit, you know.

    elissa (46be39)

  44. Yes, threads wander, but since when does that mean someone can’t comment on the actual topic of the post? You carelessly assumed sheldon’s comment was on the detour other commenters were following, and not about the topic. There was nothing in his comment to suggest that. And based on your careless assumption you attacked him, accusing him of an attempt to “minimize and trivialize the deaths of hundreds of people”. So you ought to apolgise, even though he’s a pain.

    Milhouse (312124)

  45. By the way, sheldon, I’m still waiting to hear what secret knowledge you have about Mattsky’s Jewish friends.

    Milhouse (312124)

  46. None at all.

    sheldon (77ac66)

  47. R.I.P. LeRoy Neiman

    Icy (9f6107)

  48. By the way, sheldon, I’m still waiting to hear what secret knowledge you have about Mattsky’s Jewish friends.

    None at all.

    Then why do you think they would know why Sarah Palin sometimes wears a mogen dovid?

    Milhouse (312124)

  49. My LeRoy Nieman’s just jumped in value.

    Rodney King's Spirit (aeda60)

  50. When I thought you meant that any randomly selected Jew would have this knowledge, you said you meant only Mattsky’s Jewish friends. That only makes sense if you know something about them.

    Milhouse (312124)

  51. This is worse than Watergate. This involves killing people for domestic politics reasons. It also involves killing innocent Mexicans. Holder should be sent to jail and if Obama knew, him too. Selling guns to Drug Cartels for purpose of politicizing the chaos to push for tighter gun control? Wow.

    Rodney King's Spirit (aeda60)


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