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6/5/2012

Stacy McCain Connects More Dots on Neal Rauhauser

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:34 am



Here. Good reading on HB Gary and the way all this started:

Having pointed out all these dots in the pattern, do I really need to connect them for the perceptive reader? Rauhauser’s February conspiracy-theory treatise (“Andrew Breitbart’s ISR Cell?”) shows his ongoing obsession with the HBGary “Anonymous” hacking as well as WeinerGate– and the “Weiner Truthers” at the “Breitbart Unmasked” site are “obsessed with hacking and related matters.”

Kimberlin has been targeting Patterico since October 2010, and it was evidently Rauhauser’s anti-Patterico blogging that brought him into Kimberlin’s orbit so that, by October 2011, Rauhauser seemed to be describing Kimberlin as his client.

I suspect the relationship between the two was there before Rauhauser’s anti-Patterico blogging — and was the cause for it. Still, Stacy’s post is worth a read.

28 Responses to “Stacy McCain Connects More Dots on Neal Rauhauser”

  1. OK, I’ll concede that McCain is doing a good job of presenting the story to date.

    SPQR (b59bf6)

  2. He sure is, SPQR.

    A lot of folks have seen the bigger issue here, and RSM is one of the best examples. There is another side of this story where people who should see the bigger issue fall prey to pettiness and narcissism, and these people should take a good look at how RSM is working hard to cover this story because he cares about free speech rights.

    Dustin (330eed)

  3. Its my opinion that the current tactics of the Kimberlin crime family stem from an urgency to suppress criticism of themselves before the election campaigns warm up in September. They want to influence the election, if not actually participate in the conventions. They fear being conclusively discredited in MSM by then. Of course that has already happening but they will continue to lash out and try to regain control of the tales told of them.

    SPQR (b59bf6)

  4. The whole Rauhauser thing is just a mess. Judging by that picture of Rauhauser at Nutroots Nation, he’s obviously got some sort of debilitating condition. But then again maybe he’s just 100% dumb.

    Kaitian (b51c21)

  5. The most insidious element of Kimberlin’s terrorist campaigns is that victims have few options other than to imitate his methods.

    ropelight (e670f0)

  6. The most insidious element of Kimberlin’s terrorist campaigns is that victims have few options other than to imitate his methods.

    Comment by ropelight

    I hope you’re wrong. I do worry that if law enforcement and congress don’t step up and help, that will be the lesson some take from these events.

    Then we’ll have many avoid participating in any activism because they don’t want their families targeted by other activists.

    I don’t really think this would be a two sided affair. I don’t think this is a right vs left issue, but I do think the right has far fewer of the sort of person who keys cars with the wrong bumper sticker or spits on the left’s counterpart to veterans (hippies? ex cons?).

    But my reason for opposing thuggery isn’t a cynical observation that the right is not compatible with the tactics and would lost a thug-off. It’s just that it’s wrong no matter what.

    Dustin (330eed)

  7. They’re fighting for their parasitic little professional lives, SPQR. They know that if they get stuck in the spotlight of public scrutiny, their donors will cut them loose at the behest of the Democratic leadership. Obama can’t afford to be associated with more domestic terrorists than he already is; if the pressure gets turned up on Kimberlin, he’s gonna get hung out to dry.

    Leviticus (e445f5)

  8. They want to influence the election, if not actually participate in the conventions.

    But haven’t we been told repeatedly that it’s NOT political?!

    Rob Crawford (c55962)

  9. But haven’t we been told repeatedly that it’s NOT political?!

    Comment by Rob Crawford

    It isn’t and yet in a way it is.

    Free speech is not a partisan issue. Folks on the left and the right love our free speech. We love debating and opining and criticizing. Those who wish to silence others are not really representing the democrats or the liberals who would largely think that is wrong.

    Brett’s actions have an obvious political slant, and I believe he is trying to exploit paranoia on the left with claims about Republicans. His attacks have been on prominent folks on the right, but they have been just as vicious on members of the left who stand up to him.

    Dustin (330eed)

  10. They know that if they get stuck in the spotlight of public scrutiny, their donors will cut them loose at the behest of the Democratic leadership.

    Considering how hard the Democratic leadership and the press (redundant?) work to avoid this story, I think it would take one of them being caught on live TV committing a capital crime for that to happen.

    These thugs are useful to the left. They won’t be thrown away over a little heat — look at how much evil Sharpton has been involved in, and they won’t disassociate from him!

    Rob Crawford (c55962)

  11. Folks on the left and the right love our free speech.

    The left loves free speech so much they’ve spent 30 years trying to ban conservative talk radio! They love it so much they believe only THEY should be allowed to comment on political campaigns! They love it SOOO much they’ve started attacking people who donate to political campaigns!

    Those who wish to silence others are not really representing the democrats or the liberals who would largely think that is wrong.

    The “liberals who would largely think that is wrong” are a minority on the left these days. In fact, I suspect you’d find them considered little better than Republicans — which is why Kimberlin and Krew feel comfortable attacking the few “lefties” who criticize them.

    Rob Crawford (c55962)

  12. Well Ayers is quite respected in certain circles, even a former Capitol cop like Chris Matthews had a good chuckle, the late Mr. Hatfield, invented a story out of whole cloth,

    narciso (494474)

  13. The left loves free speech so much they’ve spent 30 years trying to ban conservative talk radio! They love it so much they believe only THEY should be allowed to comment on political campaigns! They love it SOOO much they’ve started attacking people who donate to political campaigns!

    You have a point.

    And I note that there isn’t enough alarm on the left about Kimberlin’s behavior. Kos, for example, scoffed at the story’s relevance.

    However, Kimberlin has lefty cash in his pocket. Ultimately, they seem to be the ‘mark’ in this scheme. We’re the collateral damage.

    Dustin (330eed)

  14. Rob Crawford, the fight against the gangster behavior of Rauhauser / Kimberlin /Brynaert is not political. No one – right or left – should endorse or tolerate these tactics. Neither should they employ them.

    But the Kimberlin crime family motivations are purely political – dirty politics – as that’s where they think the influence available to them can be found. In doing the left’s dirty work.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  15. I disagree they are a mark, Dustin. They provide the teat. Willingly. And despite having attacked Seth, their targets are the Right.

    JD (075baa)

  16. I disagree they are a mark, Dustin. They provide the teat.

    It largely depends.

    Some on the left are simply shopping for character assassins, see the attacks on Karl Rove or whoever, and purchase the product with no concern about its accuracy.

    Some on the left are actually convinced by the character assassination (such as that done to Breitbart), and donate funds they would probably send somewhere else if they knew the truth.

    It’s a tricky issue to discuss because making this a partisan scandal is not quite accurate and it also drives away a lot of people who should join the cause, but on the other hand, there are those people out there who responded to the swatting story with ‘Good! Serves ’em right! hahahahahaha!’

    Some are marks, some are simply cynical partisans who think dirty tricks are justified by some great policy good they have in mind.

    I think most folks out there from most political POVs realize this stuff is awful. But there are enough folks on the left who think it’s OK that Kimberlin has flourished.

    Like other aspects of this story, it’s not clear cut.

    Dustin (330eed)

  17. It is definitely political. This story is not about Kimberlin. This is about the marriage of radical ideology with the power of the state.

    Rauhauser and Kimberlin are mobbed up with the Democrats. That’s why they can do what they do with impunity. It is already illegal to do what they do.

    blaster (c7bde0)

  18. Neal claimed he worked with 40 democrat candidates, if I recall correctly.

    Ron has parroted Kucinich commentary.

    Brett isn’t smearing Rachel Maddow… he’s smearing Breitbart. And I seem to recall Maddow participating in the ‘Weiner was hacked’ defense.

    So yeah, that’s political.

    That’s why they can do what they do with impunity.

    And I think that’s a big reason why they picked this shtick. ‘Not Brett Kimberlin’ wants you to think that Aaron’s cause is “an attack on everything the left holds dear”. It isn’t. But they want you to think it is because it’s a great smokescreen.

    These thuggish tactics can either be nipped in the bud or they can come to dominate online activism. There probably aren’t many conservatives who would emulate, but how many does it take?

    I want this story to get wide play so that it backfires so gloriously that no one tries to silence others in this fashion.

    Dustin (330eed)

  19. Don’t forget Ron was a failed editor of rawstory.

    JD (075baa)

  20. Yeah, right until October 2010.

    Dustin (330eed)

  21. Dustin — … Then we’ll have many avoid participating in any activism because they don’t want their families targeted by other activists.

    I don’t really think this would be a two sided affair. I don’t think this is a right vs left issue, but I do think the right has far fewer of the sort of person who keys cars with the wrong bumper sticker or spits on the left’s counterpart to veterans (hippies? ex cons?).

    We already have the withdrawal; look at how many don’t even vote, let alone participate as Election Judges, Poll Watchers, party caucuses, …. Both parties have driven both their moderates and any contrarian voices out of their party.

    I’ve left precinct, county, district, and state conventions (all R) and found my car keyed and/or a slashed tire. Once all four tires had had the air let out, no slashing, thank you, I suppose. I suspect the destruction was by rabid Pro-Lifers, but have no proof. My wife had similar (although not as expensive) treatment at D gatherings; she blames “the usual idiots”.

    I think it’s about power. People feel they’re not in control of their lives (they got that right!) and the thing to do is to take command of the government and tell others what to do (not recognizing that that is why they’re not in control of their own lives.)

    Heinlein, again, paraphrased — 90% of people want to be told what to do; 9% want to tell others what to do; and those of us who want neither have a problem.

    htom (412a17)

  22. It’s quiet.

    Too quiet.

    Pious Agnostic (7c3d5b)

  23. Once all four tires had had the air let out, no slashing, thank you, I suppose. I suspect the destruction was by rabid Pro-Lifers, but have no proof. My wife had similar (although not as expensive) treatment at D gatherings; she blames “the usual idiots”.

    I should have been more careful about my comment. It’s just my experience that those who go that far happen to oppose me.

    In both cases, it seems that some believe their ultimate policy goal is so important that it justifies thuggery.

    And of course it pushes people away. One wonderful thing about the internet is people who ordinarily restrain their political speech at work or in class or even with family can organize, vet bills and candidates, and speak out online in relative safety.

    That’s something I’d like to see protected.

    Dustin (330eed)

  24. Kimberlin et al are the Democrat Party’s Internet Brownshirts, and they serve the same function as the Sturmabteilung: they assault the party’s opponents, punish them and shut ’em up, and by example they intimidate any other nosey would-be critics.

    Kimberlin’s SA takes on blog opponents, ACORN undermines voting laws, New Black Panthers brandish clubs during elections, and Union thugs administer beat-downs at TEA Party gatherings.

    Get ready, it’s only going to get worse.

    ropelight (e670f0)

  25. Pious – Sheridan/occupy rebellion/Rauhauser is anything but quiet.

    JD (c543e6)

  26. Eugene Volokh now consulting for/with Aaron Walker’s defense, pro bono.

    geoffb (1f4c30)

  27. Eugene Volokh now consulting for/with Aaron Walker’s defense, pro bono.

    Yay. I was thinking it might be Randazza, but Volokh works.

    Random (fba0b1)


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