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5/29/2012

Eugene Robinson: Romney Is a Huge Liar for Saying Obama Spends a Lot

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:20 am

Did you know that Obama is a low, low spender? Just ask Eugene Robinson:

There are those who tell the truth. There are those who distort the truth. And then there’s Mitt Romney.

Every political campaign exaggerates and dissembles. This practice may not be admirable — it’s surely one reason so many Americans are disenchanted with politics — but it’s something we’ve all come to expect. Candidates claim the right to make any boast or accusation as long as there’s a kernel of veracity in there somewhere.

Even by this lax standard, Romney too often fails. Not to put too fine a point on it, he lies. Quite a bit.

“Since President Obama assumed office three years ago, federal spending has accelerated at a pace without precedent in recent history,” Romney claims on his campaign Web site. This is utterly false. The truth is that spending has slowed markedly under Obama.

As best as I can tell here, the sleight of hand being used to justify this ridiculous proposition is to attribute all of fiscal year 2009 to Bush. When Jay Carney cited the same article Robinson did, the fact checker at Robinson’s own paper gave Carney’s assertion “three Pinocchios” and observed of the article cited by Carney and Robinson:

Nutting basically takes much of 2009 out of Obama’s column, saying it was the “the last [year] of George W. Bush’s presidency.” Of course, with the recession crashing down, that’s when federal spending ramped up. The federal fiscal year starts on Oct. 1, so the 2009 fiscal year accounts for about four months of Bush’s presidency and eight of Obama’s.

In theory, one could claim that the budget was already locked in when Obama took office, but that’s not really the case. Most of the appropriations bills had not been passed, and certainly the stimulus bill was only signed into law after Obama took office.

Once you’ve blamed the stimulus on Bush, it’s easy sleddin’ from there.

It’s too obvious, but I can’t pass it up:

There are those who tell the truth. There are those who distort the truth. And then there’s Eugene Robinson.

177 Responses to “Eugene Robinson: Romney Is a Huge Liar for Saying Obama Spends a Lot”

  1. Racists

    Patterico (feda6b)

  2. looks like you dinged them…

    8)

    redc1c4 (403dff)

  3. Little Eugene is Obama’s water carrier extraordinaire.

    PatAZ (032efa)

  4. Obama seems to have such huge faith in his own words that, merely by uttering them, he can alter time, space, reality, history.

    And his minions have caught the same infection.

    It’s fascinating to watch. I wonder; is “who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes and bleeding wallet” really a successful election strategy?

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  5. Kessler should fact-check Robinson.

    Remember when the Dems were claiming the massive spending was necessary? Now they are claiming it didn’t happen.

    JD (bd887a)

  6. The White House actually thinks that they can get away with this nonsense about how spending did not go up under Obama. Beyond bizarre.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  7. Since the “one time” stimulus became part of the baseline budget.

    JD (bd887a)

  8. Since the “one time” stimulus became part of Bush’s baseline budget.

    FIFY.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  9. Seems pretty incompetent that Obama’s letting his predecessor force his hand on spending 3 years out. What a wimp.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  10. Thank God for the times that we live in. This messed up bs might work if there weren’t bloggers trying to keep the other side honest.

    Out to Lunch (a19b3a)

  11. each and every one of Obama’s proposed budgets have proposed spending more more more than even our spendy spendy congresswhores ended up appropriating

    and all this while our silly silly fed keeps interest rates at artificially low zimbabwe levels

    once interest rates rise greece is the word

    the rape of our treasury is complete it’s just lying in the ditch now, bleeding out like a stuck pig

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  12. Since the “one time” stimulus became part of Bush’s baseline budget.

    FIFY.

    Comment by Kevin M — 5/29/2012 @ 7:38 am

    Great point.

    JD (bd887a)

  13. The debt of the U.S. was downgraded because of Obama’s conservative spending. The pieces are all coming together now.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  14. Robinson is an Obama sycophant and his credibility is questionable.

    Wind River (00255c)

  15. obama lies boehner cries

    and romney wants to be president really really bad

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  16. Waiting for the echo of the left.

    mg (44de53)

  17. Remember, Eugene Robinson is the guy who said in 2008 that John McCain’s web ad calling Obama “The world’s biggest celebrity” was racist because it showed brief footage of Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, which he believes was intended to ‘work on a subliminal level,’ if you know what I mean and I think you do. *cough – Mandingo! – cough*

    Think I’m making that up? Think again.

    L.N. Smithee (4c1f17)

  18. Eug. Rob.: “There are those ….”

    Jeez: isn’t it Obama who likes to set up his straw men by starting off the same way: “There are those that say?”

    john b (66162a)

  19. 17. Remember, Eugene Robinson is the guy who said in 2008 that John McCain’s web ad calling Obama “The world’s biggest celebrity” was racist because it showed brief footage of Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, which he believes was intended to ‘work on a subliminal level,’ if you know what I mean and I think you do. *cough – Mandingo! – cough*

    Think I’m making that up? Think again.

    Comment by L.N. Smithee — 5/29/2012 @ 8:19 am

    I don’t think you’re making it up. The racist dog whistles are exploding in my head as I type this.

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  20. ______________________________________________

    Just ask Eugene Robinson:

    For a person to be as old as he is and to still be tilted so far to the left is a sign of an innately defective or immature mind. It’s similar to a person who has gone through decades of life, is now well past his 40s or 50s, and still hasn’t learned how to tie his shoe laces, do multiplication tables, drive a car, and manage a checking account.

    What is most pathetic and even frightening about such observers is their believing they’re imbued with such great qualities of humaneness, and how that further distorts their sense of the world around them, and, in turn, how they’ll distort reality to fit both their modus operandi and leftist emotions.

    Mark (9f81d6)

  21. while Eugene the cut-rate propaganda slut is calling out the lying liars perhaps he’d like to have a crack at this gem:

    Now, what I’ve done throughout this campaign is to propose a net spending cut.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  22. …how that further distorts their sense of the world around them, and, in turn, how they’ll distort reality to fit both their modus operandi and leftist emotions

    I’m just enjoying the fact that as they descend deeper into insanity they pound the table harder and demand to be taken seriously.

    Anybody else deriving pleasure from this?

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  23. Once you’ve blamed the stimulus on Bush, then Obama hasn’t doen anything for the last 3 1/2 years except play golf.

    Neo (73e6c9)

  24. Ridiculousness will continue rearing its fugly mug. I truly am not thrilled at what may be coming down the pike as we near game time.

    Attempting to rewrite history may not be a new tactic but it’s just as dangerous as ever. The potential votes lost due to blatant lying by perpetrators those in high places is a concern.

    “I hear and I obey….” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llcj_QRkVeU

    Out to Lunch (a19b3a)

  25. “The truth is that spending has slowed markedly under Obama.”

    A complete, total and utter lie.

    Federal Government spending under Bush II was under 20% of GDP (about where it’s been for decades). it rose to 21% in FY 2008, shortly after the Dems (unfortunately) retook Congress. Under the great Obambi, with the Dems controlling both houses of Congress, it immediately leaped to over 25% of GDP and is now at around 24% of GDP, which is the highest it’s ever been, except during WWII.

    By way of comparison, federal government spending in 1912 was 2.5% of GDP. 1912 being the year when America lost its mind and starting voting Democrats into power on a regular basis.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  26. Eugene Robinson is a pathetic putz who preaches to the progressives. A sound rule is to simply ignore what ol Eugene has to say.

    Comanche Voter (dc4fc0)

  27. All I know is Obama promised to cut the deficit in half. He hasn’t even passed a budget.

    Blame is a stupid game. Presidents are supposed to get stuff done. For whatever reason, Obama couldn’t even get this done with a democrat Senate and House.

    The deficit is the ultimate issue. Everything else is noise. We can rearrange the way we’re maxing out the credit card to please different constituencies, but the deficit needs to be eliminated. Obama’s 2008 campaign shows he realizes this is a priority. His first term shows he didn’t pursue it. In my opinion, this is because it’s politically inexpedient in the short term to save this country in the long term. Balanced budget spending is not easy even for a household of five. For an organization with a few million employees and a couple trillion in annual income? It will take something epic and painful to fix what must be fixed.

    Bush (an otherwise pretty good president) failed as well. His average deficit was far, far lower than Obama’s, but he would not get spending under control. Had the GOP balanced the budget, many other problems would not have happened because the dollar would be stronger and our economy more stable. And there would be a more clear distinction between parties. For all the wailing 24/7/365 from the media, voters could choose between a balanced budget and a bankrupt future on election day. Right now, we’re simply choosing whether to go bankrupt soon or go bankrupt sooner.

    I pray the GOP somehow wakes up to this political reality and takes the role of ‘balanced budget’, come hell or high water, every year, to create a reputation that would win elections. Just think how much credit Clinton gets for a balanced budget (projection).

    Dustin (330eed)

  28. 23. Once you’ve blamed the stimulus on Bush, then Obama hasn’t doen anything for the last 3 1/2 years except play golf.

    Comment by Neo — 5/29/2012 @ 8:32 am

    Joe Klein’s book, The Amateur should have been written in 2007. We’re going to have to live with this, you know. Iran. Losing North Africa. The debt.

    As much as I enjoy being proved right, I’d rather we didn’t elect this cluster**** in the first place.

    I’ve got maybe 40 years left. 20 now with ObamaCare. But my progeny is going to have to suck it up and live with it their whole lives.

    What is it with the Democratic party? Kerry chose Edwards as his running mate with the full knowledge he was an out and out fraud, prostituting his son’s memory.

    I’m no birther, but I’m perfectly willing to believe Obama SAID he had been born in Kenya (when he hadn’t) to sell books and maybe cuz it would help him become mayor of Chicago.

    Then there’s cold crab cakes Warren.

    Is there any Dem pol who isn’t an out and out lie? And why are we supposed to take any of this excrement seriously?

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  29. The phrase “Obama’s massive failed stimulus spending” needs to be inserted into every article and comment thread from now till November–you know, just as a constant reminder of what everybody in America already knows.

    BTW, yesterday while roaring down the highway we saw this curious red white and blue bumper sticker on a vehicle:

    ‘Coolidge-Dawes’

    You might have to refresh your history a bit (as I did) but in 1924 those dudes ran on a platform of –less government, less regulation and less spending. VP candidate Dawes also campaigned strongly against the democrat KKK and for limits on the filibuster. At that time in the follow-up of WWI he was a peacer.

    I am interested in this bumper sticker and would like to find out if it just a fun, wonky one-off by some political geek/old history major, or if there is an organized effort behind it with an agenda of some sort. Has anybody else seen one?

    elissa (6165c8)

  30. Ridiculousness will continue rearing its fugly mug. I truly am not thrilled at what may be coming down the pike as we near game time.

    Out to Lunch, lying to yourself is never a good long term strategy.

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  31. 26. Whether by dint of birth or a catastrophic cerebrovascular accident, Eugenie is clearly one minority spokesperson in need of cutting-edge speech therapy.

    Oh, and Ogabe’s Green shoots haven’t helped anyone else either. Hay un problema grandisimo:

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100017477/spain-runs-out-of-money/

    Greece nuthin, they at least will eat.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  32. Robinson is an Obama sycophant and his credibility is questionable.

    Actually it isn’t questionable at all. Think Baghdad Bob.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  33. his credibility is questionable.

    Class, this is how the beltway describes liars and shills.

    Any questions?

    Internet School of Diplomacy (330eed)

  34. 31. 26. Whether by dint of birth or a catastrophic cerebrovascular accident, Eugenie is clearly one minority spokesperson in need of cutting-edge speech therapy.

    Oh, and Ogabe’s Green shoots haven’t helped anyone else either. Hay un problema grandisimo:

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100017477/spain-runs-out-of-money/

    Greece nuthin, they at least will eat.

    Comment by gary gulrud — 5/29/2012 @ 8:53 am

    Gary, didn’t you get the memo? We on the right are complete idiots who don’t do things like speaking foreign languages good.

    Shinjirarenai, kon Amerikajin!

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  35. We have two percent of the world’s energy reserves yet consume 25% of the world’s energy.

    More #ObamaWhoppers

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  36. That would be “kono,” not “kon.”

    I don’t know. I swear the “o” was there when I clicked on submit. I do get by in Japanese.

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  37. ‘“Since President Obama assumed office three years ago, federal spending has accelerated at a pace without precedent in recent history,” Romney claims on his campaign Web site.’

    Yup. The biggest increase in federal spending since Truman bungled us into the Korean War.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  38. There is also other important stuff going on, like the Los Angeles class nuclear attack submarine Michelle Obama is sponsoring which will have an all female crew.

    I don’t think I should go anywhere near any jokes about that should any mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, neanderthal, misogynists have the poor taste to diss the absolute preciousness of that idea.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  39. 37. ‘“Since President Obama assumed office three years ago, federal spending has accelerated at a pace without precedent in recent history,” Romney claims on his campaign Web site.’

    Yup. The biggest increase in federal spending since Truman bungled us into the Korean War.

    Comment by Dave Surls — 5/29/2012 @ 9:01 am

    I blame George W. Bush for the Korean War. As a matter of fact, I blame the Bush family for fascism.

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  40. And AIDs.

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  41. “Bush (an otherwise pretty good president) failed as well. His average deficit was far, far lower than Obama’s, but he would not get spending under control.”

    Yeah, that’s pretty much true. Same as every GOP president since Hoover.

    The last two really good presidents we had were Harding and Coolidge. Dem presidents have been an absolute disaster (all of them) and the Republicans have been mediocre, at best (including the sainted Ronald Reagan).

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  42. “What is it with the Democratic party?”

    They’re a bunch of freaking commies (totalitarians), that’s what.

    They always have been.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  43. All I know is Obama promised to cut the deficit in half. He hasn’t even passed a budget.

    He is waiting for $2T deficits, so when we go back to $1t he can claim to have done what he promised.

    JD (bd887a)

  44. LN – thanks for that link. Surreal.

    How did I not see that before?!

    JD (bd887a)

  45. 41. “Bush (an otherwise pretty good president) failed as well. His average deficit was far, far lower than Obama’s, but he would not get spending under control.”

    Yeah, that’s pretty much true. Same as every GOP president since Hoover.

    The last two really good presidents we had were Harding and Coolidge. Dem presidents have been an absolute disaster (all of them) and the Republicans have been mediocre, at best (including the sainted Ronald Reagan).

    Comment by Dave Surls — 5/29/2012 @ 9:09 am

    At last, something to agree on.

    Do you realize how many times during the Bush presidency I thought it would be merciful if the the dems impeached the guy?

    His compassionate big government conservatism was an abomination and I hurled every time he brought it up. Then there was the immigration amnesty thing. What a joy that was, being called racist by a guy in your own party.

    I don’t know if you’re a democrat, but do you understand how many times there were when I wouldn’t have stood in your way if you wanted to take the guy out (politically)?

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  46. Remember when the Dems were claiming the massive spending was necessary? Now they are claiming it didn’t happen.
    Comment by JD — 5/29/2012 @ 7:35 am

    Patterico and Aaron and others have the courage to risk their lives, etc. to put out the truth, and somewhere (many somewheres) there are editors, owners, publishers, and the like that can’t say to nonsense. I am happy to listen to different points of view, I am not happy listening to outright lies, stupidity or delusions, or a combination of the above.

    This is an excellent example of, “What do they really think?” Does Robinson really believe this because he simply believes everything in an Obama press release, does he know it is nonsense but is willing to go along, does he somehow really thinks it is true through his own “research”.

    The ONLY way this is true, in addition to blaming fiscal 2009 on Bush, is to say that since Obama has never signed a budget of his own making (true, or did he actually sign one once upon a time?), he is not responsible for any of the spending, which is criminally absurd…

    as is Aaron getting arrested, if true… I think I can arrange to pick people up at an airport on the way…

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  47. Attempting to document and establish the bigger liar between B. Hussein and M. Willard is a fool’s errand we’re tasked with on to infinity.

    Note the Mitt Willard has gone by the same name from birth and leave it at that.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  48. Gary Gulrud,

    Are you seriously going to sit on the sidelines and enable Obama to win a second term ?

    Elephant Stone (0ae97d)

  49. 48. Attempting to document and establish the bigger liar between B. Hussein and M. Willard is a fool’s errand we’re tasked with on to infinity.

    Note the Mitt Willard has gone by the same name from birth and leave it at that.

    Comment by gary gulrud — 5/29/2012 @ 10:05 am

    Honor among prostitutes and all.

    When I was stationed in Yokosuka, and Clintoon came to town, I seitched duty do somebody else would have to go shake his hand.

    Later, when the evil stooge of the international Joooowish conspiracy Boosh was President I did the same thing.

    If there’s one thing my dad, the senior chief, taught me is this. They’re all politicians.

    Here’s a memorial day thought. We defend the country. A lot of times, we don’t like it. Why do you guys keep electing absolute, well, you know whats, to lead it?

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  50. My spelling gene seems to have taken the day off.

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  51. Breaking, Aaron arrested:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/breaking-domestic-terrorist-kimberlin-has-conservative-blogger-arrested/

    49. Some chance I’ll vote Libertarian–tho we’ve little in common outside finances.

    More likely I’ll write in, one guess.

    Events will make fire and brimstone seem preferable. Shinola Spokesmodel has no chance.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  52. 45. Sorry WatcherOne, me driving by again.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  53. “I don’t know if you’re a democrat…”

    Gadzooks! Now I’m really insulted.

    Unless you mean a small “d” democrat. That’s o.k.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  54. BTW, LA, your test of the emegency broadcast system broke in to Little Einsteins just fine here in rural MN.

    Sounds like your Sheriff is an anglo, what gives?

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  55. #38 Correction – Michelle’s submarine is a Virginia Class boat, not a Los Angeles Class craft.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  56. 56. The one with the cruiser-class stern.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  57. The Democrats sound to me like a spendthrift spouse.

    Amphipolis (d3e04f)

  58. Gary Gulrud,

    I’m not sure you’re as opposed to Obama as you claim. If you were, you’d want to see him defeated in November by Romney.
    Voting for Libertarian Gary Johnson, or some write-in candidate with zero chance of beating Obama, is not the most viable option for defeating Obama.

    In life, it’s usually better to go with the best available option rather than wait around for the “perfect” option.
    People choose the best available option over the “perfect” option when selecting a pair of shoes, when buying a car, when buying a house, when taking a job, and when choosing a person to date.
    I don’t know why people who do all those things all of a sudden insist upon “perfection” in a Presidential candidate.

    Romney may not be as conservative as Senator Tom Coburn, but he’s a marked improvement over Obama on all accounts.

    I believe Romney would govern as President more conservatively than people believe. In Massachusetts, he had an overwhelmingly Democrat legislature to work with.

    And people often “forget” that Reagan was forced to make a lot of compromises both as Governor of California, and then as President.

    There are too many consequences at stake to risk dicking around by voting for the Libertarian candidate or for writing in someone’s name.

    The next President of the United States will either be Obama or Romney.

    Elephant Stone (0ae97d)

  59. You can’t really consider those 8 months out of that fiscal year to be Obama’s though, because racism.

    CrustyB (69f730)

  60. 59. You’re right Mr. Stones, BHO is a very bad man, and certainly the most evil in the WH since Woodrow Wilson.

    The GOP, token opposition tho it be, is a lock to control congress. Now I know we all agree that is not enough to secure our safety. The majority in the Senate will be weak and easily thwarted by a cabal of ‘centrists’.

    But this scenario would be little improved with a Romney as POTUS. Your only persuasive argument for Willard is that he would not engage in continuous sabotage and lawlessness as Executive.

    Yet one quarter of the Right have been keeping you all on notice for a full term that we would never vote for Romney.

    You did not believe or did not care.

    Elections have consequences.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  61. A number of us mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging Neanderthal reactionaries were saying months ago that Romney wouldn’t win.

    We said this because he reach 50% of the electoral vote, may have trouble breaking 45%, and the majority of his support votes in states owned by the Lord of the Lies.

    Many of us thought this while convinced the EU would crumble, the Market crater, U3 unemployment and Housing would not come back, $5 per gallon, etc.

    We were wrong. SCOAMF can’t even campaign worth a damn. He could drop out LBJ style, he could be dusted by Soros et al., he could flee the country with campaign millions into Uncle Bob’s arms but he cannot win re-election.

    Not against Willard, not against a ham sandwich, not against a dead raccoon.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  62. Here’s someone after the Red Eye vote:

    229777-thad-mccotter-fails-to-get-on-ballot-will-run-as-write-in

    I don’t long for sleep that desperately.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  63. Comment by gary gulrud — 5/29/2012 @ 1:35 pm

    SCOAMF can’t even campaign worth a damn.

    I assume SCOAMF means the president, but how?

    Supreme Commander of the American Military Forces?

    I notice he is running scared, like as if he had a competent opponent.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  64. Off topic. Rasmussen poll:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/holidays/may_2012/45_have_close_friend_or_relative_who_died_serving_country

    Have any of your close friends or relatives ever given their life while
    serving in the US military?

    Yes 45%

    Do you have any close friends or relatives currently serving our country in
    Afghanistan?
    Yes 40%

    Let us say that a person roughly knows 150 people that wouls mean very crudely 1 in 375 Americans is now in Afghanistan equal roughly 1 million?

    45% know somebody who died in some war while in the U.S. military. 150 divided by 45% = 333 – allow more for previous generations.

    How many americans died in war in the miliutary since World War II? Most of this would have been in World War II.

    Makes you wonder about polls.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  65. 64. Stuttering ClusterF*ck of a Miserable Failure, been in use, especially Ace’s, for nigh a year.

    He does not warrant the respect due his office, I don’t care what anyone says. Well, almost anyone.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  66. “I assume SCOAMF means the president, but how?

    Supreme Commander of the American Military Forces?”

    Stuttering
    Clusterfu*k
    Of
    A
    Miserable
    Failure

    Mike Giles (e5b891)

  67. What are you wondering, Sammy? Everybody in the U.S. at that time knew somebody who died or was MIA in Nam. Everybody. Or, if a younger person is answering the poll, it’s highly likely that they do have a family member or a friend’s family member who was lost in Nam.

    elissa (6165c8)

  68. McCotter’s had five terms that’s plenty really

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  69. God bless you please, eugene robinson
    Heaven holds a place for those who have their nose so far up the president’s backside they are on the verge of being born again.

    Colonel Haiku (059911)

  70. Also, Sammy, you are probably not taking into account that the people polled might know the same military person serving or killed. If they polled 5-10 people in a town of say 20,000 , chances are that those 5-10 people would all respond as knowing that particular service member that was killed or serving.

    peedoffamerican (ee1de0)

  71. 69. Indeed. My vote for harmless.sounds.like.a conservtive BS artiste. Voted for the Debt Ceiling deal to bar the door on the Huns threatening Liberty.

    Oh, you go girl.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  72. yeah he’s a phony I hope the challenger isn’t a witch

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  73. Why only three Pinocchio’s?

    AZ Bob (7d2a2c)

  74. “Why only three Pinocchio’s?”

    The fourth is rolling on the floor laughing his wooden ass off.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  75. The PORK-U-LUS bill was rammed thru without GOP support on FEBRUARY 17, 2009. Obama was sworn into office JANUARY 20, 2009. 28 DAYS. It took 28 days for the LIBTARD PARTY to RAM THRU a TRILLLLLION PLUS DOLLAR payback to it’s dependent special interests. Each year since, the LIBTARD PARTY has rejected OBAMA’S budget and not provided one of their own. All of the spending we have incurred has been more than a TRILLLLLION dollars higher than BUSH’S last budget. CONTINUING RESOLUTION is your EXPLANATION for OBAMA’S OBSCENE spending.
    LIBTARDS LIE. SCORPIONS STING. LIBTARDS BUY VOTES.

    Gus (694db4)

  76. are you sending coded messages to the resistance Mr. Gus?

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  77. Does Eugene read his own paper? Does Kessler read Eugene?

    JD (318f81)

  78. Kessler wanted to be the Post’s Tom Friedman, but
    Ignatius beat him to that, so he just became their
    local PLO hack,

    narciso (494474)

  79. happyfeet. Shhhhhhhhhh. They will hear us.

    Gus (694db4)

  80. Narciso, his name is INGORATIUS.

    Gus (694db4)

  81. Errrr, I think I meant IGNORATIUS.

    Gus (694db4)

  82. ALLCAPS MAKES ME BELIEVE IT MORE!!!!!!!!!!

    JD (318f81)

  83. jd. Care to offer anything of substance??

    PROBABLY NOT.

    Gus (694db4)

  84. Gus, we talked about this, WRITING LIKE THIS. is like screaming,

    narciso (494474)

  85. NO I PREFER TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE MOTHERSHIP IN PRIVATE!!!!!!!!!

    JD (318f81)

  86. Ahhhhhhh. I get it. I was screaming, and jd decided to scream too!!!
    Thanks Narciso, I’ll watch my manners. JD, I apologize.

    Gus (694db4)

  87. NO APOLOGY NECESSARY NOW I MUST GO ORGANIZE MY THETANS AND EVALUATE MY IDEALS …. BRB

    JD (318f81)

  88. I hear BATH SALTS are very dangerous STIMULANT.

    I’m a gonna start saving all the nightshade I pull out of the boss’s perennial garden and brew me up a gallon of belladonna.

    Be good barter in A YEAR’S TIME.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  89. It’s particularly rich given that in the fall of 2008 the Democrats insisted that a fiscal 2009 budget would be signed by the incoming President. It was just too damn important to leave to an outgoing President (WHO WAS THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER ELEVENTTTYYYYY).

    They demanded to have their fingerprints on 2009. But since 2009, and every year since, has been a bust now they want to un-ring that bell. If the media goes along does that mean everybody agrees, on the left, right and within the porn industry, that 9/11 was Clinton’s fault?

    East Bay Jay (a5dac7)

  90. Eugene “Pulitzer Prize-Winning Denigrator of Rick Santorum and his dead child” Robinson.

    Icy (74fb18)

  91. Even if you attribute the whole of the stimulus spending to Obama, Nutting’s point still stands: government spending has risen at a slower rate under Obama than under many previous presidents. Do the math.

    Nick (6aec0f)

  92. I know daley has me marked for an financial rube–well it’s true–I just know how to latch onto savants:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/overnight-sentiment-now-its-italys-turn-spain-continues-break-all-records

    Once all the PIIGS are destroyed its Belgium’s turn. Then, the EU crushed watch Japan bring men to their knees. Bank of Spain’s governor just resigned effective in two weeks. Coward.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/japanese-bond-curve-inverts-3y-cash-now-king

    And, there is a day after a day after:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/has-snb-restarted-printing-press

    The strong run, asses and elbows, when the script falls into their laps wheelbarrows full. Germany, Switzerland, Norway are secure, USofA?

    Not ‘effin hardly.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  93. 92. “Do the math”.

    Donkey braying. It’s called arithmetic, yob, nothing more advanced than geometric progression.

    Tangentially approaching the ordinate versus time.

    Turn your life in, you’ve wasted it.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  94. Here’s a literate discussion of the issue, if you’re interested.

    http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/marketwatch-is-more-right-than-the-wapo-factchecker-says-it-is/

    Jeffery (713894)

  95. Yes, “Jeffrey”, turning to VP Biden’s mouthpiece is real convincing.

    JD (bd887a)

  96. One of the overseers of the stimulus, for Sheriff Joe, a musician btw, not an economist,

    narciso (494474)

  97. I was a big Eugene Robinson fan back in the 70’s when I was a liberal. Wow, I had no idea how dense he was.

    Andy (b63f79)

  98. With all the Kimberlin stuff, you may have missed the Romney issued his obviously fake birth certificate. I think he was born on Niburu.

    carlitos (49ef9f)

  99. Hey, I just thought I’d toss this into the mix:

    Obama on Tuesday labeled the Nazi facility used to process Jews for extermination as a “Polish death camp.” The White House later said the president “misspoke” and expressed “regret”.

    Our super genius Preezy “mispoke” about the “Polish” holocaust.

    Who does that? How dim do you have to be to “mispeak” about Nazi death camps?

    I’m no “transcripter.” No transcript which shows some college gifted this guy with grades he didn’t earn will convince me he’s at all smart.

    Smart guys do not end up apologizing to Poland for “mispeaking” about killing 6 million Jews.

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  100. Heckuva way to treat our allies.

    JD (bd887a)

  101. 101. Heckuva way to treat our allies.

    Comment by JD — 5/30/2012 @ 12:01 pm

    In all fairness to Chicago Jesus, we’ve been treating Poland like crap since they kicked the bejeesus out of the Germans for us at Monte Casino. How you just hand a group of guys like that back to Stalin, I’ll never know.

    We never accused them of committing the holocaust before. Not til now.

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  102. I don’t think we were a big enough player on the international scene to treat Poland like dog vomit between Pulaski and WWII.

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  103. 94. It’s called arithmetic, yob, nothing more advanced than geometric progression.

    Yeah, yeah. From FACT CHECK: Obama claim of thrifty spending falls short of reality, bailout skewers numbers:

    A fairer calculation would give Obama much of the responsibility for an almost 10 percent budget boost in 2009, then a 13 percent increase over 2010-2013, or average annual growth of spending of just more than 3 percent over that period.

    That’s an annualized growth rate of about 4.4% over 2009-2013, quite modest compared to recent presidents.

    Nick (6aec0f)

  104. Good luck selling this as modest, Nick.

    As I said earlier:

    It’s fascinating to watch. I wonder; is “who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes and bleeding wallet” really a successful election strategy?

    Steve (7d9c6b)

  105. “Nutting’s point still stands: government spending has risen at a slower rate under Obama than under many previous presidents. Do the math.”

    The claim is arrant nonsense.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  106. Nick, sure that’s why Obama has added $5 trillion to the deficit in one term, something Bush could not do in two terms.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  107. I hate it what Obama done on the economy

    it’s really a great sadness to me

    America used to be prosperous and now look at it

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  108. 105. Good luck selling this as modest, Nick.

    I don’t deny that’s scary, Steve. But it’s still true that spending increases under Obama have been relatively modest, especially since the GOP retook the House.

    Nick (6aec0f)

  109. “nick” is a clown.

    JD (8e63c8)

  110. 107. Nick, sure that’s why Obama has added $5 trillion to the deficit in one term, something Bush could not do in two terms.

    Appalling indeed, but that $5 trillion is not all Obama’s doing, is it? For one, he inherited big spending commitments from Bush, who was hardly a fiscal conservative.

    From wikipedia:

    The U.S. budget situation has deteriorated significantly since 2001, when the CBO forecast average annual surpluses of approximately $850 billion from 2009–2012. The average deficit forecast in each of those years as of June 2009 was approximately $1,215 billion. The New York Times analyzed this roughly $2 trillion “swing”, separating the causes into four major categories along with their share:

    * Recessions or the business cycle (37%);
    * Policies enacted by President Bush (33%);
    * Policies enacted by President Bush and supported or extended by President Obama (20%); and
    * New policies from President Obama (10%).

    Nick (6aec0f)

  111. “Appalling indeed, but that $5 trillion is not all Obama’s doing, is it?”

    No, it’s primarily the fault of liberal morons in Congress.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  112. OMG how cute. CBO forecasts based on BS models that they were forced to utilize. nick is not a clown, that would be giving it too much credit.

    Baseline the one time stimulus.

    JD (65d1c1)

  113. You’re purposefully conflating spending and deficits. While related they are not synonomous. The deficit under Obama has increased largely because of decreased revenues not increased spending. It’s not magic, but arithmetic. The facts are available all over the internets.

    Jeffery (713894)

  114. this is obama’s spending

    see it go up and up!

    spend, Obama, spend!

    you are a very big spender, Mr. Obama.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  115. There’s a very catchy Hey Big Spender song from the musical Sweet Charity. Singers from Peggy Lee to Shirley Bassey to Bette Middler have sung it. I do hope we will hear a version of it as the background musics of an election ad about Mr. Obama’s very bad habits with money.

    elissa (ea6f4a)

  116. he be doin’ big pimpin’ he be spendin’ Gs he be doin’ big pimpin’ in Wash DC

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  117. Jeffrey is a lousy liar.

    JD (8e63c8)

  118. you lie worse than Cory Booker Mr. Jeffrey that’s how bad you lie

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  119. Jeffery will now explain why all of Mr. Obama’s spendy spendiness is so very, vitally nessy necessary.

    Icy (8f0075)

  120. from the MarketWatch article:

    http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-05-22/commentary/31802270_1_spending-federal-budget-drunken-sailor

    …Here are the facts, according to the official government statistics:

    • In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.

    • In fiscal 2010 — the first budget under Obama — spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.

    • In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.

    • In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.

    • Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook. …

    We can debate how much of the 2009 spending belongs to Obama and how much to Bush policies, but the facts are clear. Obama has not increased spending like a “drunken sailor”, simply because spending has not increased much. The DEFICIT has increased because revenue decreased from tax cuts (Bush era + stimulus program tax cuts) and from reduced tax collections because of the great recession starting in 2008 (out of work folks pay little taxes).

    Jeffery (713894)

  121. “from the MarketWatch article:”

    If I want to read commie propaganda, I’ll just cut to the chase and read Das Kapital.

    Federal expenditures are much higher now than they ever were under Bush II…and that’s simply a fact.

    The combination of a Dem controlled Congress and a quasi-sentient Dem president caused federal expenditures to rise from less than 20% to over 25% in just two years.

    2007…19.5%

    2008…20.8%

    2009…25.2%

    2010…23.8%

    2011…23.9%

    As always, liberals are a freaking disaster. Giving them money or power is like giving a loaded pistol to a two year old.

    And, of course, most federal expenditures amount to just pouring money down various useless welfare ratholes. Not that the lib pols give a crap, seeing as how it’s not their money.

    On the plus side, the feds are doing some important things, like expediting arms sales to Mexican drug gangs, so the news ain’t all bad.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  122. “…, lies, damned lies, and statistics”, and things left unsaid that needed to be

    Ah, yes, once upon a time there were people who were honest in debate, granted what the valid facts were, respected different analyses, and the discussion was aimed at better understanding… not sure when or where this has been true since Adam and Eve had a discussion pre-snake days…

    But, I grant there is a difference between spending increases and debt increases, that % of GNP will go up if spending stays neutral and GNP shrinks, but you can’t be coming out of a recession if GNP is still shrinking
    and you can’t say anything, IMO, if you will not even pass a budget

    unless I am really mistaken, paul ryan is at least trying to be serious in looking at spending

    but as sais previously, Obama complained that Bush was increasing spending and the deficit too much, but then he also argued that he needed to spend lots of fed money on “shovel ready” projects to stimulate the economy… so he did spend extra money, he did increase spending, and the debt has increased significantly, and now he wants to claim he never spent the extra fed money that he earlier complained wasn’t enough…watch closely for his facial muscles to go into spasm and lockdown in protest of being told to speak out of both sides of his mouth…

    meanwhile, the only “shovel ready” projects had to do with BS. Do you remember several years ago when the news media was talking about how all of the govt. employees retirement funds were grossly underfunded (or am I the only one who remembers/imagined that), where did the money that didn’t go into dirt shovel ready go? IIRC, the vast majority of the $800 million plus that Wisconsin received went into (some of those undefunded) pension funds…

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  123. rant, part II

    speaking of wisconsin…I wonder if all journalists are on a “journolist” of one kind or another, or if they are all too much into listening to each other, or if my mental status is sub-par, or what combination

    even on “conservative” radio networks, I hear that the keruffle in wisconsin that lead to the Walker and Co. recall had to do with “loss of collective bargaining” for the state and municipal unions… Well, that may be one description of it, but my understanding was that it had to do with:
    1. Mandatory union membership with dues automatically taken out of the paycheck (of which 95% plus that went into political uses was pro-Democrat
    2. Asking employees to pay a bigger share of their benefits, so that their benefits were only somewhat better (rather than much better) than the rest of the people of the state who employed them.
    3. More freedom for the govt jurisdictions in hiring, firing, contracting for benefits (such as health insurance), etc.

    Stats I heard yesterday sounds like membership in govt. unions in Wis has dropped like 50% in the year since the law passed, suggesting that there was a huge number of people being ‘held captive” by their unions, and, liked many things, it wasn’t “the govt” (the elected repsresentatives of the people of Wisconsin) against unions and union members as against union bosses.

    If I am mistaken, please feel free to show where.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  124. Yes, MD, you’re a surgeon right, you get to the heart of the matter, Even our Clear Channel station, morning and drive time hosts, are very
    weak on fleshing out the main story,

    narciso (494474)

  125. No, narciso, not a surgeon, I just like to get to the bottom line because of my impatience/ADD…
    though my posts rarely accomplish that with minimal text and maximum clarity

    over at Powerline is a post with actual numbers, the major state union membership is down 66%.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  126. Nick and Jeffery, this is just silly.

    Little Barry isn’t responsible for SS going negative, for Congress eviscerating Medicare, for Dodd-Frank killing the Wall St. goose, for Bennie printing 10% of GDP, for revenues falling thru the floor, for every Federal dollar spent of our money engendering 42 cents of economic activity.

    No, he didn’t get an A in Econ 101 because he read the text or sat thru lectures but because of his being Ameri-Indian and African-American.

    Clearly these problems are beyond hope of his grasping, let alone mitigating. He can’t even keep the diff between ‘sons’ and ‘daughters’ straight.

    gary gulrud (820db3)

  127. Actually, narciso, it’s not that they don’t flesh out the stories better, it’s that they use the same language and phraseology in their sound bites that MSM uses, words and phraseology that give slanted perceptions, subconscious prejudices.

    Instead of saying “Walker did away with the right of unions to do collective baragining”, they could have said “Walker gave state employees the power to choose to be in the union or not, and municipalities more freedom in making decisions about the running of schools”.

    It’s like sports coverage of the home team. The story could be “Phillies bats come alive and pound the Mets” or “with late inning collapse, Mets let one get away”; and the dems are always treated as the home team, even in the “opposition city”.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  128. That’s undoubtedly true, I noticed on my Clear Channel station’s menu, they have theHuffington Post, game over man, that’s why the local morning
    d.j., to cite one example, was nodding along to
    whatever tripe McGuinness was selling, same with
    the Zimmerman matter, Spanish radio, is even worse.

    narciso (494474)

  129. MD in Philly–
    From the WSJ via Legal insurrection:
    More devastating news for the recall effort is that public employee union enrollment has dropped by more than 50% in the past year. This is significant for the recall election because over half union employees do not have to pay union dues by their own choosing thanks to Walker.

    elissa (82e9dd)

  130. ______________________________________________

    He can’t even keep the diff between ‘sons’ and ‘daughters’ straight.

    That is another example of the peculiarities that surround this country’s current president. Was it either a strange error in his way of speaking, or perhaps he’s haunted by children (born out of wedlock) from his past? With Obama, anything is possible, including lot of murmurs about his bisexuality.

    Even the originally easy mockery of “birthers” for their suspicions is countered by the recent revelation that a literary agent that no less than Obama himself worked with several years ago fostered the notion that he was born in Africa. And notice how that bit of irony and contradiction barely elicited a raised eyebrow throughout much of the MSM?

    The USA: fast becoming the world’s biggest Banana Republic.

    Mark (f9d7d9)

  131. ________________________________________________

    For one, he inherited big spending commitments from Bush, who was hardly a fiscal conservative.

    That type of comment reminds me of all the liberals who — with rare exception — are quick and happy to point out that X percentage of Americans don’t pay more in taxes instead of Y percentage of Americans paying too much. So when the left complains about Bush being a spendthrift (and in some ways he was), and knowing the tax-and-spend preferences of virtually all liberals, it takes a lot of gall to make Obama and a Democrat-majority Congress (as things were not too long ago) sound like the bulwark of fiscal sanity.

    Mark (f9d7d9)

  132. “Jeffrey” is a lying liar

    http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1786

    Even Kessler says you are full of dung.

    JD (65d1c1)

  133. Thanks for the info elissa,
    Even there, what is the issue? That unions are weaker because they don’t have as much money from dues and power from membership? That state employees are selfish and want to keep more of their own money? That the “unions”/union leaders never really represented the people they said they were fighting for?
    If all of these people didn’t want to be in the unions, where did all of those protestors come from? (Elbow in ribs, nudge, nudge).

    Even “More devastating news for the recall effort” could be instead, “Good news for those who voted for and put Scott Walker in the Governor’s seat to begin with…”
    Of course, that is my picking on just a fragment of their article.

    The Dem/pro-union/60’s-reinactors put forth the idea that Walker and the Republican legislature had deceived the people of the state in the election and were “hijacking” the state government. Walker and Co. would have said, “No, we’re doing what we said we would do in our campaign, doing what the people of the state elected us to do.” So, in one way the results of the recall election could be said to settle that dispute. Are Walker and Co. doing what they were elected for in the first place and the results of the recall confirm that (“We Stand With Walker”), or are others correct and Walker and friends “hijacked” the govt.?

    Of note is the fact that on the ground in Wis they are no longer using the original issues to campaign against Walker. The results of the newly enacted laws and union membership as above don’t leave any good reason to recall Walker other than being a Dem who doesn’t want a Repub as governor.

    In contrast, similar reforms in Ohio were canned before they had a chance to be implemented and could demonstrate whether they worked as proposed.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  134. 134. A fundamental falsehood with Nick’s 4.4% increase in spending is that 6% is baselined, i.e., the increase is over-and-above a cost-of-living mandated increase.

    And then Bennie turns around and publishes ‘core inflation’ figures with energy costs removed and housing inserted.

    Fraud, all begun before Barry’s immaculation.

    gary gulrud (820db3)

  135. The language one uses is important, back in the early 80s, the opposition to the Sandinistas, was
    known as the Nicaraguan Resistance, a certain portion of which, were part of Somoza’s National Guard, the left tagged it as los contrarevolucionarios or ‘contra’ for short, and the name stuck, even among supporters,

    narciso (494474)

  136. Jeffery – You do have to admire the bipartisanship that Obama has brought to Washington in the budgeting arena. Nobody will vote for his budgets because they are so ridiculous.

    Even Tim Geithner admitted in Congessional testimony earlier this year that the Administration has no plan for reducing deficits going forward, but they just don’t like any of the plans put forward by the Republicans.

    Talk of Obama being a fiscal conservative is ridiculous on its face. Please tell me about his plans for Medicare and Social Security. He has skipped three mandatory reports to Congress about the solvency of Medicare.

    You are a joke.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  137. 122

    Spending as %GDP can go up by increasing spending or by decreasing GDP. Spending went up a little. GDP dropped. It’s a ratio and is explained in grammar school arithmetic books.

    daleyrocks: you are a joke

    JD: you are a lying liar

    Jeffery (713894)

  138. Jeffery, content free response.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  139. “Spending as %GDP can go up by increasing spending or by decreasing GDP.”

    Jeffrey – What did actual spending do, nimrod?

    daleyrocks 0/32 Cherokee (bf33e9)

  140. “Spending as %GDP can go up by increasing spending or by decreasing GDP.”

    Jeffrey – GDP declined by a little over 2% between 2008 and 2009 and then recovered above 2008’s level in 2008. Looking at government spending as a % of GDP blows your thesis out of the water, putz.

    daleyrocks 0/32 Cherokee (bf33e9)

  141. “Clearly these problems are beyond hope of his grasping, let alone mitigating.”

    That part is definitely correct. The idea that totalitarian governments can improve economies is the joke of the eon.

    There’s only two things they can do.

    1. Fuck everything up, and impoverish everyone (except themselves).

    2. Get the hell out of the way.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  142. daleyrocks is a nimrod and a putz

    I did not propose using %GDP, #122 did.

    I’ll type slowly that perhaps even you can understand. Spending under Obama has not gone up faster than during other administrations. He has not been spending like a “drunken sailor”. Myth Romney is just repeating right wing nonsense.

    Jeffery (713894)

  143. Jeffery seems to be focused on semantics rather than math.

    elissa (2cc6a6)

  144. “Spending under Obama has not gone up faster than during other administrations”

    Faster than any administration since Truman.

    And, thanks to balloonhead liberals, the federal government is ten times bigger than it was just 100 years ago.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  145. He has not been spending like a “drunken sailor”

    More like the Spanish Armada on crack.

    http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1786

    “Jeffrey” is a lying liar what tells lies

    JD (395555)

  146. Jeffery apparently does not realize that it’s usually best not to comment on a subject that one knows little about. That is the reason why I have not been participating over at teh pron thread.

    elissa (2cc6a6)

  147. I thing Vogon constructor fleet, Jd.

    narciso (494474)

  148. Elissa – I suspect there are a great many subjects on which “Jeffrey” is ignorant.

    JD (395555)

  149. Rich Lowrey at Nationl Review:

    Franklin Delano Roosevelt never denied that he created Social Security. Lyndon Baines Johnson didn’t forswear any responsibility for Medicaid. Ronald Reagan never argued that his defense buildup didn’t happen.

    The Obama White House, in contrast, wants to wish away the historic federal spending that is one of its signature accomplishments.

    White House press secretary Jay Carney, whose job it is to dodge questions and elide facts without betraying any embarrassment, urged reporters the other day to steer clear of “the BS that you hear about spending and fiscal constraint with regard to this administration.” Not one to be outclassed by his press secretary, President Barack Obama kept up the edifying livestock theme by calling Mitt Romney’s attacks on his deficit spending “a cow pie of distortion.”

    The White House has a deeply conflicted relationship to its own record. It is saddled with a bad case of spender’s denial, a rare psychological disorder afflicting committed Keynesians facing reelection at a time of record debt.

    elissa (2cc6a6)

  150. He’s goen from Argument Clinic, to Billy Madison, to being slapped with a giant mackerel.

    narciso (494474)

  151. The cool thing is I believe this President is so tone-deaf he’ll actually go with this message that he’s been a model of fiscal constraint.

    It’ll be like his other economic messages that he’s tried, like “America’s Back.”

    Which just p.o.’d voters when they heard that BS, to borrow some terminology from the WH.

    That’s according to the Democrats own pollsters, Carville and Greenberg at Democracy Corps.

    Nobody believes the numbers the Obama administration, Nutter, Robinson, or Jeffery are throwing around. The accounting tricks which you have to use to get to those numbers torture the facts, well, about as much as everything else this President has done. If we treated KSM and the other residents of GITMO the way this admin treats facts, they’d be singing like canaries until shortly before being killed by being tortured to death.

    Steve (958caf)

  152. “That is the reason why I have not been participating over at teh pron thread.”

    elissa – Maybe I should stop commenting on that thread as well.

    daleyrocks 0/32 Cherokee (bf33e9)

  153. daley–I’m afraid you may already be a little too invested over there to pull out now.

    elissa (2cc6a6)

  154. 156. daley–I’m afraid you may already be a little too invested over there to pull out now.

    Comment by elissa — 5/31/2012 @ 7:41 pm

    Oh, the double entendres are thick in that one, elissa.

    Steve (958caf)

  155. 156. Snigger.

    I like how Jeffie thinks “No, you’re the dippiest weetard” will somehow win the day when everyone moves on. SCOAMF is ‘effed, it’s over.

    gary gulrud (820db3)

  156. Let’s not resume use of the phrase “drunken sailor”. A drunken sailor once posted that he was offended, because he, as a drunken sailor, would quit drinking when the alcohol ran out, but that president Obama felt no such responsibility with spending other people’s money.

    BTW, he’s in the richer than 1%. Did he pay enough taxes, did he “spread his wealth around a little”?

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  157. “daley–I’m afraid you may already be a little too invested over there to pull out now.”

    elissa – I am but an innocent and unique snowflake, but there was sort of a pulsing rhythm to the thread a bit earlier.

    daleyrocks 0/32 Cherokee (bf33e9)

  158. Still waiting for Jeffery to explain why all of Obama’s current spending is necessary . . .

    Icy (ed486a)

  159. Mathematically, Zero is not a ‘counting number’. Counting Numbers begin with 1, and go on 2, 3, 4, ect.

    So “Zero” blogs issuing death threats would be uncountable or countless.

    If the law supposes that, then the law is an ass.

    DonM (a7ec92)

  160. 162. iCY

    Since Obama hasn’t increased spending that much, what is there to explain? It’s been my experience that Teabag conservatives like to tell a lie, in this case, that Obama has increased spending like no other, then change the subject (e.g., why gov’t spending is desired in a recession) and start name-calling. When Teabag conservatives are forced to stop and defend each lie they stumble. The data do not support the contention that Obama increased spending above and beyond the long term trends. It’s a myth.

    So just call me a poophead, pat each other on the back for a job well-done, and move on to your next myth. Let me help get you started: “The Donald has evidence that Obama was born in Kenya.” Now go play with yourselves for a while.

    Jeffie (713894)

  161. The Donald Obama’s own publicist has evidence that Obama was born in Kenya which Obama apparently approved of.”
    Comment by Jeffie

    FTFY
    Obama either lied about being born in Hawaii, or approved of a lie about being born in Kenya. I don’t care which it is, let us know when you’ve figured it out.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  162. Since Obama hasn’t increased spending that much

    Starting off your rant with a demonstorable lie is not good form. The pre-emptive don’t call me names while lying and calling people names is cute too. Par for the course for vermin like you.

    JD (92e1b0)

  163. MD… That is not a comment by me. You made it up, but you seem especially anxious to change the subject and start a new lie. As predicted. Do you have any evidence that President Obama approved the ad copy? I didn’t think so. Please, one myth at a time. It’s fascinating that someone skilled enough to operate a computer thinks that Obama was born in Kenya.

    JD… Please present your evidence that Obama has spent outside the trend. You may believe he has spent more than you like (of course the House and Senate have some culpability, don’t they?). Real gov’t spending has decreased significantly in the past year. By all means continue to call me names, since you have little else to say.

    Jeffie (713894)

  164. . It’s fascinating that someone skilled enough to operate a computer thinks that Obama was born in Kenya.

    Why in the world did they claim he was then?

    “jeffie” – I linked to politimath above, that thoroughly debunks your mendoucheity. How about you list all the different names you have used to comment here. Kthxby

    JD (92e1b0)

  165. Just want to say your article is as surprising. The clarity in your post is simply spectacular and i can assume you’re an expert on this subject. Well with your permission let me to grab your RSS feed to keep up to date with forthcoming post. Thanks a million and please carry on the rewarding work.

    Leon Harvill (f9c8ce)

  166. Barry Soetoro, Choombaracka, LightBringer, whatever, applied for student aid as a foreign national at Occidental in CA.

    Barack Sr. played cuckold to Franklin Marshall Davis, biological father, pederast and amateur pornographer.

    There is no truth, no reality to Obamanation, Laird of Lies, he’s a total, comprehensive fraud.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  167. 169. A publicist made a mistake. Period.

    politimath? lol

    Two names: Jeffery and Jeffie. I can use Lying Liar or Vermin or any name you wish to call me.

    Total gov’t spending is cratering. Going down. We are practicing austerity now.

    Jeffery (713894)

  168. 172. Don’ worry Jeffie, we’ll know you by your effete, hope.beats.change euphorian fabulist blather.

    Shinola Spokesmodel can duck blame ’til Rupture, men cannot live on I-Pods and OBL hit porn alone.

    He did not show up to play.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  169. http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1786

    Rather, than dismiss it out of hand, serial troll, how about showing us where it is wrong?

    Total gov’t spending is cratering. Going down. We are practicing austerity now.

    You lie as easily as you breathe. What budget are you referring to?

    JD (ac9ea4)

  170. True, JD, the surprise is the degree of cooking the books, involved in the operation,

    narciso (494474)

  171. 172, et al. Re: “Going Down”

    Depression, soup lines, zombie smorgasbords, ennui cum chaos.

    I walked by the south lawn, Friday, on my way to the Holocaust, the West Saturday on my way to the Lincoln.

    No one but a handful of immigrants look to BHO for even a flyover.

    Americans look back to MLK and Lincoln to our future.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  172. jd,

    When you take Krugman, Stiglitz, Baker, Bernstein et al seriously, I’ll take politicalmath seriously.

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/1937-2/

    gary gullcrud,

    There are many reasonably priced grammar books available, as well as community mental health resources for you.

    Jeffery (713894)


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