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5/19/2012

Today’s Quote from Citizen K: The Book About Convicted Bomber and Perjurer Brett Kimberlin

Filed under: Brad Friedman,Brett Kimberlin,General,Neal Rauhauser — Patterico @ 12:01 am

Today’s quote is about how our friend the convicted bomber and perjurer sabotaged parts destined for military aircraft and tanks:

At Oxford [a federal prison in Wisconsin] he was assigned as a quality-control clerk at a prison factory that manufactured cables for military aircraft and tanks.

A brilliant idea, that.

Each day, he said, he did his work quickly and then tried to immerse himself in a book, but the prison guard who was his overseer objected to his reading on the job. When he persisted, the guard threatened to give him a “shot” — to write an incident report that could lead to disciplinary action. So he stopped bringing a book to work, he said, and instead devoted his spare time to sabotage. “I’d run the cable through quality control,” he said. “I’d check them. I’d sign off on them. And then I’d cut some of the damn wires.”

Nobody knows how many military members died as a result of these treasonous acts.

Your recipient of grants from the Tides Foundation, John Kerry’s wife, and Barbra Streisand. Can we get a round of applause, ladies and gentlemen?

44 Responses to “Today’s Quote from Citizen K: The Book About Convicted Bomber and Perjurer Brett Kimberlin”

  1. What’s the statute of limitations on treason?

    Patterico (feda6b)

  2. Barbra Streisand is 70 years old she could go at any time

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  3. i call BS.

    first off, anytime a piece of gear gets a cable replaced, the installation is checked for proper operation…by the unit doing the repair, not the end user. cable replacement usually occurs at a level of maintenance above user or unit.

    while it is remotely possible that the wire or wires cut might not show up until the equipment involved was in formal use, it is highly unlikely.

    second of all, if this worthless POS was the person signing off on the QC, he would have also been the first suspect when the investigation into the faulty cables was launched, especially since the process would have revealed the deliberate cutting of wires vice improper soldering, kinking, sub-standard materials, etc…

    IOW, this medoucheous twatwaffle is lying again, yet and still.

    redc1c4 (403dff)

  4. So he is either a traitor or a liar.

    Well, we know he’s a liar. So he could be both.

    Patterico (feda6b)

  5. As if lefties would care one bit about whether or not someone was a traitor.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  6. I am really hoping there is something to that Karma thing I always hear about.

    Noodles (3681c4)

  7. my dogma got run over by one once… 8)

    redc1c4 (403dff)

  8. I’ve always thought that this kind of cr*p was what was behind a lot of the “Bush is a fascist” hogwash we were treated to from the Left; a deep fear that Bush might start going after Celebrity Left Revolutionary criminals like this fool. The Left has a looooong history of screwing around with fashionable revolution, crime, and treason. It isn’t often taken seriously, because when you come right down to it these are not serious people. But I think they are afraid that it might be used against them some day, if only because that’s what they would do if the cases were reversed.

    Bush, frankly, seemed more inclined to think that for a supposedly educated person, kissing up to a celebrity Islamofascist was its own punishment.

    C. S. P. Schofield (df34af)

  9. ‘Feet@2: don’t tease us with false hope.

    roy in nipomo (d31d1e)

  10. I can’t wait to read the quote where he claims he is 1/32nd Kenyan.

    Pious Agnostic (149706)

  11. Yeah, in my experience Kimberlin is an absolute pathological liar. He will lie about things even when there is no discernible benefit. For instance, if you look in the transcript of the 4/11/12 hearing, he claimed that when he first contacted me he thought my real name was Aaron Worthing. Obviously that is not the case, and it was easily provable that it was not the case and as far as i can tell it didn’t help his case at all.

    So you literally cannot trust anything he says at all. I say if he tells you the sky is blue, go to a window and check.

    And i suspect that the military has enough redundancies to make sure that they would check for such cables as red suggested. I find Red’s argument to be credible.

    But then why is he telling this lie (assuming it is a lie)? It seems he believed this was a way to be glamorous to the right kinds of people.

    Aaron "Worthing" (73a7ea)

  12. A little (youtube) vid about psychopathic traits:

    I watched this for the accent once, stayed for the content.

    SarahW (b0e533)

  13. Gee… prolly not a good idea to click on that last poster/imposter.

    people… people who bomb people
    are the suckiest people in teh world

    Colonel Haiku (7dba0b)

  14. On our way to Vietnam, we went to three survival schools – basic, water and jungle. Basic survival had two parts – the trek and POW camp. In the POW camp, you get grilled and roughed up some, including some enhanced interrogation techniques. After the initial phase, you try to escape and make the guards’ lives miserable. They put you to work doing menial tasks, which is okay unless the work is a war effort.

    The guards assigned a couple of us to put handles on some wooden boxes, saying they needed to carry water jugs up to the trek camp grounds. The handles were so two guys could carry water like you would a litter. We worked on them for an hour. A guard told me they planned to use the carriers to carry gasoline up to a gun pit. We kept working.

    During the debrief of 1000 guys in an auditorium, one of the instructors asked about our work. He wanted to know why we kept working after we were told how they would be used. I told him we had cut ¾ of the way through each handle. We sabotaged all of them and they didn’t notice. Too bad they really were going to use them to take water up the hill.

    Arch (0baa7b)

  15. They all seem to either come up with the lie, or
    ‘carry it forth’

    http://twitchy.com/2012/05/18/dana-loesch-verbally-smacks-tommy-christopher-for-conspiratorial-condescending-article/

    narciso (1c125b)

  16. Haiku, you don’t mean me, do you? It’s regular old me, really.

    SarahW (b0e533)

  17. The video I thought worthy. But maybe you didn’t mean me. Who did you mean?

    SarahW (b0e533)

  18. These domestic terrorist lefties are so bizarre—seriously, does anyone believe that Bill Ayers and his ilk are genuinely happy people ?

    I once had a bad experience at a restaurant. The food was lousy, the service was poor, and I was not impressed with the menu selection. I generally recall wishing I were at a different restaurant where I would have been happier with my experience.

    So I never went back to that place.

    If these rabid-at-the-mouth lefties hate America so intensely, why don’t they just go to a restaurant where they are confident they will enjoy the meal ?

    They don’t like what America’s menu offers, so go seek out a menu you’ll be happy with.

    If they believe in their hearts that Cuba has the best menu—go there !
    …but why are they so insistent on bringing Cuba’s “menu” over here to replace America’s menu ?
    Truth is, they don’t even like Cuba’s menu enough to actually want to live there.

    Bill Ayers and his nutty wife live in a nice house in an exclusive Hyde Park neighborhood. That doesn’t sound like someone who hates the by-products of capitalism.

    Elephant Stone (0ae97d)

  19. Elephant Stone, the leftists think that when there is a revolution, they’ll end up in charge.

    That’s how stupid they are. They don’t realize that come the revolution, the real hardcases will line them up on the wall real early.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  20. That’s true, SPQR, you can ask Camilo Cienfuegos, or Trotsky, oh wait, you might have some trouble,

    narciso (1c125b)

  21. No, it was number 12, Sarah W. I didn’t click on that, but I don’t think that was the real Aaron. Just had a feeling that was a malevolent presence, but AW can correct me if I’m wrong.

    Colonel Haiku (7dba0b)

  22. Yes, someone check that out. I didn’t notice the scare-quotes around Worthing. It could easily be Aaron’s nod to the end of his former nom de guerre, but I’d like to know for sure.

    SarahW (b0e533)

  23. I don’t know about the inspection process but U.S. prisons really do make cables for the military through the Federal Prison Industries, Inc., (FPI) Electronics Business Group. Sales to the Department of Defense make up 88% of the FPI’s total earnings. Preferences are given to FPI as a supplier to the U.S. government.

    The budget at the last link shows a decline in the funds allocated to manufacturing quality control in the 1990’s, and the Gale Directory of Company Histories (at Answers.com) says at one time FPI produced an inferior product:

    Federal Prison Industries, Inc., which is known by the trade name UNICOR, is a federal government-owned corporation that employs federal prisoners to manufacture and provide a variety of products and services, primarily to agencies of the U.S. government. More than 20,000 inmates are employed by UNICOR and work in a network of nearly 100 factories in 64 prisons in 30 states.
    ***
    While UNICOR faced challenges from the private sector, it also battled problems within the federal government. Although UNICOR insisted that quality control was of utmost priority within its factories, many agencies disagreed. A 1993 report that evaluated the quality of electric cable sold by UNICOR to the U.S. Army between 1986 and 1990 indicated that quality problems arose in nearly twice as many UNICOR contracts as private industry contracts. In the mid-1990s further reports and studies found quality problems with UNICOR. John Hagan, Master Chief Petty Officer for the U.S. Navy, testified before the House National Security Committee that UNICOR’s ‘product is inferior, costs more and takes longer to procure. UNICOR has, in my opinion, exploited their special status instead of making changes which would make them more efficient.’ Deputy commissioner George Allen of the Defense Logistics Agency reported that UNICOR’s prices were 13 percent higher, on average, than the prices of commercial businesses and that 42 percent of UNICOR orders were delivered delinquently, compared with an industrywide average of six percent. Many government agencies believed that UNICOR’s performance would improve if it were allowed to compete with commercial companies.

    The link indicates FPI aka UNICOR implemented changes that improved product delivery times and cost. And while I can’t vouch for the claim or the website, also in UNICOR’s favor is that it is very popular with companies like “McDonald’s (uniforms), Victoria’s Secret (lingerie), Eddie Bauer (wooden rocking horse assembly), Kmart (jeans), Dell (computer recycling), Honda (car parts until the United Auto Workers intervened), and even the U.S. Army (body armor, F-16 jet parts).” Isn’t that great? Body armor and jet parts.

    Finally, IMO whether the military caught the sabotage isn’t the point. The point is Kimberlin produced corrupted goods that (at a minimum) took military manpower to identify, repair, and replace or (at worst) jeopardized military lives. Is that a violation of trust or a breach of allegiance? I think it is.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  24. I think Kimberlin was in prison in the late 1980’s. Perhaps his cables were responsible for the bulk of the quality control problems identified in the “1993 report that evaluated the quality of electric cable sold by UNICOR to the U.S. Army between 1986 and 1990″ that “indicated that quality problems arose in nearly twice as many UNICOR contracts as private industry contracts.”

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  25. Interesting this is the first link that comes up;

    http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/kimberlin.html

    narciso (1c125b)

  26. DRJ

    wait, they have prisoners making lingere?

    ewwwww.

    Aaron "Worthing" (73a7ea)

  27. That would seem to match this;

    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/brett-kimberlin/3/b32/190

    narciso (1c125b)

  28. I had the same reaction, Aaron. I hope it’s the womans’ prisons, although the men might do it for free.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  29. Seth has frequently pointed to this almost totally adulatory profile;

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1574161-2,00.html

    narciso (1c125b)

  30. ::sigh::

    SarahW (b0e533)

  31. “indicated that quality problems arose in nearly twice as many UNICOR contracts as private industry contracts.”

    Ok then. I think that settles the quality control issue.

    SarahW (b0e533)

  32. Btw, i am putting quotes around my name now for the same reason that Jim Treacher calls himself “Jim” “Treacher” on twitter. because those are not really parts of his name.

    so if you are wondering it is me, it is me. feel free to email me at the emails you know i use to check.

    And its okay to be a little paranoid when dealing with these idiots. they are really after us.

    Aaron "Worthing" (73a7ea)

  33. Stay safe, Aaron.

    Simon Jester (c7e870)

  34. additional observation: if indeed schisekopf was sabotaging cables, they would be traced back to his QC hack, and one would think that there would have been some sort of repercussions for him, up to and including charges.

    at the very least, you would expect that he would have lost his position, and any credit for “good time” it got him.

    that’s why i figure this to be just a “look how clever i am” war story… him against “the man” and he got away with it.

    yeah, right.

    redc1c4 (403dff)

  35. one would think that there would have been some sort of repercussions for him, up to and including charges.

    With great respect, this is never a safe assumption with Kimberlin. For all you know, he put some other prisoner’s QC label on there or socially engineered someone to help him hide his responsibility.

    He gets away with crimes all the time. Over and over and over and over someone points to some accusation about Brett and wonders ‘if he really did that, how on earth wasn’t he prosecuted?’

    One good example is how he filed a false report with the cops and swore under oath many lies meant to frame Aaron Worthing, and video proved his perjury absolutely. If he really did that, how on Earth wasn’t he prosecuted? Well, he really did that.

    Now, my experience replacing electrical components is that they are tested for proper function before being used. I was in the Field Artillery with computers and many a wire (one of our testing apparatus was called the octopus and basically looked like one). If we replaced a wire, of course we confirmed there weren’t shorts or no-voltage before connecting the fire control to a missile or a rocket.

    So Brett’s treasonous behavior, which apparently he at least claimed to have committed, would have merely resulted in the kinds of issues DRJ cited.

    Put me in the camp that totally buys that Brett did this and thinks it impressive to boast about it. He should have been proud to have a chance to contribute something to society while the taxpayers had to feed and house his lousy felon ass, but no. Brett doesn’t do good things. He does bad things. He doesn’t do charity work. He created charity fronts to serve his own interests.

    He is the most evil manchild you will ever come across in the internet or in person, and anyone who facilitates his behavior should be ashamed of themselves now that Aaron Worthing, Robert Stacy Mccain, and Patrick have exposed his behavior to the internet. Mark Singer did the most work, in my opinion, but he did it before the internet took off. We need to help technology catch up with the data about this monster.

    Dustin (330eed)

  36. I neglected to mention Seth Allen. Seth Allen’s bravery in facing Brett Kimberlin is a modern day David v Goliath. God bless his probably Athiest heart.

    Dustin (330eed)

  37. Dustin makes a good point. why think he would face charges? he has been caught red-handed committed perjury and trying to frame me and right now he isn’t facing charges for that.

    Btw, patrick it is technically tomorrow on the east coast. can we have our new quote yet?

    Aaron "Worthing" (73a7ea)

  38. I love this blog.

    Noodles (3681c4)

  39. Yep:

    http://filmladd.com/?FooBirdsAndCloseScreamers

    This was full of tragicomic truth.

    SarahW (b0e533)

  40. What page is this on?

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  41. Comment by redc1c4 — 5/19/2012 @ 11:44 am

    that’s why i figure this to be just a “look how clever i am” war story… him against “the man” and he got away with it.

    yeah, right.

    Yes. Where’s the profit in this?

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  42. Maybe if the cables were defective they’d get to do the work all over again?

    But still, where’s the profit to Kimberlin? Is it that he didn’t want the contract to end and his job to change? Or precisely that he did want it to change – to get taken off that job?

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  43. There have been many books written, about prisoners trying to survive in prison, Sammy.

    nk (875f57)


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