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2/16/2012

Rampant Voter Registration Irregularities

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 6:09 pm



Clearing the decks after a busy few days, we see . . . nothing. Nothing to see here, folks:

More than 24 million voter-registration records in the United States— about one in eight — are inaccurate, out-of-date or duplicates. Nearly 2.8 million people are registered in two or more states, and perhaps 1.8 million registered voters are dead.

Those estimates, from a report published today by the non-partisan Pew Center on the States, portray a largely paper-based system that is outmoded, expensive and error-prone.

But never fear. We are assured this could not lead to rampant fraud:

Experts say there’s no evidence that the errors lead to fraud on Election Day. “The perception of the possibility of fraud drives hyper-partisan policymaking,” said David Becker, director of Pew’s election initiatives.

The message: don’t let the possibility of voter fraud make you overreact. Or, indeed, act at all.

If only voting were important. Then, maybe we could treat it seriously.

51 Responses to “Rampant Voter Registration Irregularities”

  1. this thread needs a “ding!”

    newrouter (b9b577)

  2. I suspect that there are sometimes more fraudulent votes in the cities than legit ones.

    Amphipolis (e01538)

  3. You are just trying to suppress minority voting. Racist.

    NO EVIDENCE OF VOTER FRAUD !!!!!!!

    JD (318f81)

  4. you know who kept good records was nazis

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  5. you know who kept good records was nazis

    You know who made the trains run on time was Mussolini. All hail late trains!

    (I did not fact check this, so if Milhouse or someone wants to come in and say Mussolini didn’t really make the trains run on time, have at it. I’m not really claiming that for real.)

    Patterico (13e9ba)

  6. voter id laws would make this moot.

    sigh.

    reliapundit (32879d)

  7. Racist

    Patterico (13e9ba)

  8. voter id laws would make this moot.

    Minorities are incapable of securing proper i.d. Whether it’s a general incompetence or something in the water, it’s unclear…which doesn’t explain the millions of minority citizens who have secured proper i.d…

    Dana (a93e63)

  9. The soft bigotry of lowered expectations. Democrats don’t care if a battle is fought with honesty or not, victory is the important thing.

    It’s one of their defining characteristics and a pox on their house.

    Colonel Haiku (8f958f)

  10. Lets do something modern, like put permanent purple dye on a finger after you vote.

    And a purple fingerprint on absentee ballots.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  11. one of these things is not like the other:

    “…non-partisan Pew Center on the States…”

    and

    “The perception of the possibility of fraud drives hyper-partisan policymaking,” said David Becker, director of Pew’s election initiatives.”

    about as non-partisan as Daily Kos would be my first guess.

    lying B-tards

    redc1c4 (403dff)

  12. Pew has a problem with voter ID laws? Why?

    Icy (6386cc)

  13. Of course you all know that birth records prior to August 4th, 1961 are suspect, and therefore should not be required for voter registration.

    Icy (6386cc)

  14. Tangentially related: what’s the over/under on Rahm Emanuel winding up in prison one day?

    Icy (6386cc)

  15. what’s the over/under on Rahm Emanuel winding up in prison one day?

    I wouldn’t bet against it.

    Dustin (401f3a)

  16. I did not fact check this, so if Milhouse or someone wants to come in and say Mussolini didn’t really make the trains run on time, have at it.

    — Milhouse will be right with you. It takes time to comb through and translate 15+ years worth of hard-to-find, fading, early 20th century Italian train records . . . expertizing hisself, just for you!

    Icy (f5a880)

  17. This just in: It turns out that the trains ran on-time due to divine intervention from the Trinity . . . Il Duce, Der Fuehrer, and His Majesty the Emperor.

    Yeah, I don’t understand it either.

    Icy (f5a880)

  18. All we need is rahm to snitch. That will set off the fireworks.

    sickofrinos (44de53)

  19. 6- You should be shinning mitt and his shoes, f-ing dolt.

    sickofrinos (44de53)

  20. I am a glitch in the Cook County registration records. Even though I changed addresses, for many reasons I did not change my voter registration on time for the March primary. But I can still vote at my former precinct, if I want to drive 25 miles, even though I no longer live there.

    nk (5a9989)

  21. They checked my ID in Rural MN last Nov. So no trouble in Conservative districts.

    Wonder what bushel baskets of cash funnelled thru legacy TV is going to do with the Kossacks on the loose:

    http://decoded.nationaljournal.com/2012/02/romneys-5-million-ad-blitz.php?mrefid=skybox

    A lot of spending for nothing IYAM.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  22. It’s well known, in Cook County, that the ballot request (Democrat, Republican, Slobovian …), in our open primary is open. So Mayor Daley knows your party affiliation.

    (You don’t really think that Rahm Emanuel is the real mayor of Chicago, I hope. Google “retired Korean emperor”.)

    nk (5a9989)

  23. Now, just imagine that VISA had the same problems: millions of dead credit card holders, tens of millions moved or with the wrong name or duplicate records. How do they get it right and the government can’t? Oh. You mean they care?

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  24. This, btw, is one of the reasons why there is an Electoral College. Otherwise the extra million votes our of Chicago would go to the national bottom line and not just tilt Illinois more Democrat. Those Founders weren’t trusting sorts.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  25. ..ouT of Chicago..

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  26. The Cheese Curtain is not far away. In an hour I can be in Milwaukee. Why limit myself to just one vote, others don’t?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  27. Welcome To The Machine, nk.

    Icy (f5a880)

  28. This, btw, is one of the reasons why there is an Electoral College. Otherwise the extra million votes our of Chicago would go to the national bottom line and not just tilt Illinois more Democrat. Those Founders weren’t trusting sorts.

    Comment by Kevin M

    Great observation.

    Dustin (401f3a)

  29. 26. Recently read figures online that nearly 2 million deceased people remain on voter rolls and nearly 3 million are registered in more than one state. We don’t need no stinkin’ voter ID. It might take away Urkel voters. A local luster for Obama insists that Repubs. manipulate the votes. This despite fact that mostly Dems run the local election boards. Hanging chads anyone?
    Who can forget paying Milwaukee denizens to vote with ciggies or Wisconsin college students voting multiple times.

    Calypso Louie Farrakhan (933d53)

  30. (I did not fact check this, so if Milhouse or someone wants to come in and say Mussolini didn’t really make the trains run on time, have at it. I’m not really claiming that for real.)

    Funny you should mention that. My ears were burning, and the wifi here seems to working for the moment, so I had a brief look here. To the best of my knowledge both Mussolini’s vaunted feat of making the trains run on time and Hitler’s even more heavily promoted feat of causing Germany’s economy to boom, were pure marketing. They achieved these things the same way Castro achieved his health care miracle: they just said they did and people believed them. When you control the publication of your statistics, you can say whatever you like about your performance. The trains kept arriving whenever they did, the German economy remained in the hole, and Cubans are as sick as they ever were, but the statistics said otherwise so they were heroes.

    I know this will not surprise you.

    Milhouse will be right with you. It takes time to comb through and translate 15+ years worth of hard-to-find, fading, early 20th century Italian train records . . . expertizing hisself, just for you!

    As I understand it the records will indeed bear out the Italian Miracle, but that’s not what happened.

    Milhouse (dcde03)

  31. I hear that the cattle cars ran on-time.

    Icy (f5a880)

  32. BTW, there are some interesting comparisons between il Duce and Teh Lightworker.

    Icy (f5a880)

  33. BTW, there are some interesting comparisons between il Duce and Teh Lightworker.

    Comment by Icy

    One is they both favor (favored, in ilDouche’s case) this pose…

    http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w127/piezoman_photos/ArrogantObama.jpg

    Colonel Haiku (add084)

  34. Yeah, Il Duce had a better profiled chin – and wasn’t such an a..!

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  35. I think the thing is that the only solution you’re talking about is strict voter ID laws. This would depress turnout in demographics that tend to support your political opponents. Some of these demographics have been targeted with voter suppression tactics that were clearly, sometimes explicitly, motivated by their race.

    In a previous post on this you showed a legitimate case of vote fraud using absentee ballots. No supposition about if it could happen. It did happen. But I didn’t see any suggestions to fix that issue.

    time123 (03e182)

  36. just present photo id, like you have to do for nearly every mundane act of your daily life, time123. So simple even a democrat could do it.

    Colonel Haiku (add084)

  37. That was predictable.

    Racists

    JD (12366a)

  38. In a previous post on this you showed a legitimate case of vote fraud using absentee ballots. No supposition about if it could happen. It did happen. But I didn’t see any suggestions to fix that issue.

    There’s a very simple solution to absentee ballot fraud: require every mailed-in ballot to be signed and notarized.

    Notarization requires that you show some kind of ID….kinda like the voter ID laws.

    Chuck Bartowski (ae4cc4)

  39. If only voting were important. Then, maybe we could treat it seriously.

    If only citizenship were important, we perhaps could treat border sovereignty seriously.

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  40. Comment by Colonel Haiku — 2/17/2012 @ 2:07 pm

    If they couldn’t cheat, they wouldn’t exist.

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  41. If they couldn’t cheat, they wouldn’t exist.

    Comment by AD

    That is as true – and undeniable – as the day is long. It leads one to wonder why this doesn’t bother them enough to spur corrective action, if for nothing more than self-image.

    Colonel Haiku (15abe7)

  42. O/T, but kind of significant….

    Mexico President Felipe Calderon’s message to US: ‘No more weapons!’
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46425305/ns/world_news-americas/?google_editors_picks=true#.Tz6J7YdmJzV

    I suppose that means we can red-pencil any entries on the Foreign Aid list for weaponry for Mexico’s government forces?
    That would be the good news; the bad news is that it doesn’t explain what was going on with Fast & Furious, who thought it up, and who authorized it.

    But, hey, Felipe, we’ll be happy not to send any weapons across the border to your people; but, if you want to see where the problem is, you need to look at the people in your own “defense” ministry who don’t seem capable of keeping the back door locked.

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  43. Comment by Colonel Haiku — 2/17/2012 @ 3:52 pm

    The acquisition of, and maintainance of, power is the primary raison d’etre of the Left anymore as they’ve completely run out of any ideas for the betterment of mankind – as if they actually had any workable ones in the first place.

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  44. Comment by AD-RtR/OS! — 2/17/2012 @ 3:56 pm

    Again, we are in agreement.

    Colonel Haiku (15abe7)

  45. I think the thing is that the only solution you’re talking about is strict voter ID laws. This would depress turnout in demographics that tend to support your political opponents.

    I think we’re willing to take that risk. If voting is important enough to an individual, they will get adequate i.d. Is showing your i.d. to buy booze, to get a library card, to board an airplane, to register your children to school is accepted law in our country, then why not show the same i.d. to vote?

    It’s simple, 123, why unnecessarily complicate it?

    And as far as I am aware, no one is suing the public library system, airlines, liquor stores, or public school systems because they feel discriminated against for having to provide i.d.

    Voting for our elected officials is one of the greatest and most profound rights an American citizen has, why would you not want to guard and protect that with the utmost care?

    Dana (4eca6e)

  46. Hey, time123…

    The soft bigotry of the Left’s low expectations and faith in the intelligence and abilities of some of their constituencies is what depresses.

    And you fool no one with that tired tactic.

    Colonel Haiku (8d7732)

  47. time123 seems to have picked up Dimwit’s habit of cut-and-paste posting.

    The meme is all — bow before the meme!

    Icy (f5a880)

  48. They checked my ID in Rural MN last Nov.

    Comment by gary gulrud — 2/17/2012

    Was it the drooling, or the wet spot at the crotch of your pants?

    Just kiddin’…

    Colonel Haiku (0449f4)

  49. bemidji midget
    in rural minnesota
    harelip the walleye!

    Colonel Haiku (0449f4)

  50. And yet, you’ll find it’s impossible to go to your voting place next November without showing up on at least one surveillance camera or having your cell phone tracked by God knows how many. In most major cities, you’ll pass by at least one red light camera if you drive to the polls.

    And both parties will know exactly how you will vote before you even get out of bed on election day.

    But somehow, we can’t muster up the spine to demand that our voter rolls be fair and accurate. Neither party will tolerate it. There is a tradition at stake.

    bobdog (166386)

  51. “And yet, you’ll find it’s impossible to go to your voting place next November without showing up on at least one surveillance camera or having your cell phone tracked by God knows how many.”

    bobdog – Ima vote early in my People’s Republic City Hall of the People, which currently does not have any surveillance cameras that I have observed.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)


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