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12/16/2011

Sockpuppet Friday — Focus group edition

Filed under: 2012 Election — Karl @ 10:00 am



[Posted by Karl]

As usual, you are positively encouraged to engage in sockpuppetry in this thread. The usual rules apply.

Please, be sure to switch back to your regular handle when commenting on other threads. I have made that mistake myself.

And remember: the worst sin you can commit on this thread is not being funny.

RCP’s Sean Trende reports on an experiment from Evolving Strategies, which used Internet-based focus groups to determine whether Republicans have “priced in” negative information about the GOP candidates for the presidential nomination:

It proceeded by dividing respondents into three groups. One of them, a control group, watched generic, non-political commercials.

A second group, the so-called “Gingrich condition,” watched a positive Gingrich ad, a negative ad about Gingrich, a positive Perry ad, and a negative ad about Perry (you can view the different ads here).

A third group, the “Romney condition,” watched a positive Romney ad, a negative Romney ad, a positive Perry ad, and a negative Perry ad.

In the control group, 42 percent of respondents made Gingrich their top choice in the GOP primary. But in the “Gingrich condition,” support for the former speaker was only 26 percent, a drop-off of 18 points. The winner in this scenario was Romney, who numbers ticked up substantially, even though viewers didn’t see any Mitt Romney ads.

Interestingly, in the “Romney condition,” where viewers saw ads about Romney and Perry, there was little effect on Romney’s support, and Gingrich’s support increased only marginally. This suggests that most of the negative information about Romney (and Perry) truly is “priced in” at this point.

Even so, read the whole thing to see how Perry may also benefit.

–Karl

85 Responses to “Sockpuppet Friday — Focus group edition”

  1. *sobs* You — you told me — you promised – you’d left Candescent and now–now this!

    CFLs, weeping into rather expensive and mercury-stained silk handkerchiefs (325a59)

  2. Jesus was a Hymie an Occupier, you know.

    The Reverend Jesse Jackson, whose Jesus is always conveniently convenient (325a59)

  3. Yes, I know a few years ago I wouldn’t grant any interviews to the media. That was when there wasn’t any advantage to ME to be media friendly!

    But now I can just hopscotch over all those journalists who worked for years and get a tidy, easy media gig! My time, my choice! Life is great, isn’t it?

    Chelsea Clinton, who you'd surely agree totally deserves it (325a59)

  4. So I spent more than $100,000 of taxpayer money going to Hawaii separately. And?

    Michelle Obama, who frankly doesn't give a sh*t if you think she deserves it or not (325a59)

  5. Oh, and audit that White House Dossier guy, IRS peons.

    I mean NOW! MOVE! I’ll be back when I’m good and ready.

    Michelle Obama, Queen of the USA (325a59)

  6. Widespread voter fraud is a myth.

    There is no reason to purge dead people from our voting rolls.

    It only disenfranchises minorities and old people, or something. At least that’s what they told me to say.

    Eric Holder (bf33e9)

  7. I told you I wasn’t sticking around. Fire up the jet and load up on the burgers and fries!

    FLOTUS (a1fcca)

  8. And don’t worry, we’re finally on that Climate Gate case. We see the fraud and corruption with government funds used to create the hockey stick lie and rob folks blind with cap and trade, and we’re on the case to find out who blew the whistle on big brother.

    And I mean big. You ever see Michael Mann in a bakery? Jeeez. It’s like Pac Man. gobble gobble gobble gobble gobble.

    Eric Holder (cb3719)

  9. Honest, we did not hold up the agreement just to embarass the President. Who would have thought his wife would head off without him. (he, he, he)

    Speaker John (a1fcca)

  10. It’s a sad day for Republicans. I guess I have to support Mitt.

    Ann of CT (a1fcca)

  11. I have a super secret arrest warrant for the Eric Holder sockpuppet for insulting his Royal Grace, the Attorney General of the United States. “Cuff ’em Dano.”

    US Marshall (a1fcca)

  12. You can call me nannerpuss nannerrrrrrpusss

    nannerpuss says that Iran acting in self defense to nuke Israel, who is exterminating everyone with their concentration camps.

    Ron Paul is the sane choice for potato 2012.

    Nannerpuss (cb3719)

  13. Oh, and thanks mommy and daddy!

    Chelsea (a1fcca)

  14. Missed vacations. Hey, it can happen to anybody.

    The good hands people at BuggerAllstate can have another jumbo jet and air force escort ready to take you to Hawaii, as if the tremendous expense never even happened because, hey, it’s house money.

    Because important people shouldn’t have to wait a few days to get to Hawaii just because the little people are paying for vacation #87 while 14 million Americans can’t even get a job.

    That’s the Bluestate stand. Are you in good hands?

    President David Palmer (cb3719)

  15. Hi, uh,

    This is News at nine (at ten it’s history!) reporting live from Rhode Island. A Bull Terrier that can skateboard!

    This loveable pup really gets around!

    This is Cheslea live at five (at six it’s pick up sticks)

    Back to you, Dan!

    Chelsea Jefferson Clinton (cb3719)

  16. Budget fixed, check. Iraq War over, check- now off to The Hawaiian Islands…..lots of golf and shopping……seeeeeee ya

    The Obamas (4af6f8)

  17. Rep Bachmann fails to discern the difference that Jefferson did just before he molasses tax of 1801. You see the relevant of Molasses manufacturing in New England vs that in Florida was solely based upon the advice of consultants not lobbyists. So when Jefferson stated that he fired some judges who were subjects of the crown, all lawyers are insignificant when in the presence of someone who read history books. In other words – you Bit@h never ever mention that 1.6 million again…

    Da Bloviator (d84fb0)

  18. Rep Bachmann fails to discern the difference that Jefferson did just before the molasses tax of 1801. You see the relevance of Molasses manufacturing in New England vs that in Florida was the advice of consultants not lobbyists. So when Jefferson stated that he fired some judges who were subjects of the crown, proves once and for all, that lawyers are insignificant when in the presence of someone who read history books.

    In other words – you Bit@h never ever mention that 1.6 million again…

    Da Bloviator (d84fb0)

  19. Newt
    1.6 million
    1.6 million
    1.6 million

    Rep Bachmann (d84fb0)

  20. So when do they announce the “Dick of the Year” winner?

    Anthony Weiner (1b1549)

  21. /Checks polls

    Highest not-Romney is Newt

    Fire for effect

    Downrange

    Downrange

    Downrange

    Downrange

    Downrange

    Downrange

    Downrange

    Checks polls for highest not-Romney and recalibration

    Target acquired.

    Rep Bachmann, future Secretary of the Interior sucka (cb3719)

  22. I’m sorry, Anthony. You had a great run. I’m gonna let you finish. immaaaaa let you finish.

    But Eric Holder is the biggest dick of ALL TIME. of ALL TIME.

    Weiner of the Year Advisory Council (cb3719)

  23. So when do they announce the “Dick of the Year” winner?

    Comment by Anthony Weiner — 12/16/2011 @ 10:05 am

    Well I’ve got that one all sewed up, for any number of reasons. And for once I’d actually deserve an award I got.

    Barack Obama, Healer of Planets and Suppressor of Tides, who at this point will take any award he can get (325a59)

  24. ok ok, maybe it’s a tie.

    Generally Obama gets his awards before he’s done anything, and him actually getting one he’s earned is a bit passe’

    Weiner of the Year Advisory Council (cb3719)

  25. When we do, you win by a landslide, Teh Weiner.

    Time Magazine (c65c00)

  26. There’s no truth to the rumor I will be having more enhancement done during the Hawaii vacation. I will be much too busy having fun with the kids and little BO.

    Meechelle Robinson Obama (c65c00)

  27. As if!

    Little BO (c65c00)

  28. Barack Obama, Healer of Planets and Suppressor of Tides, who at this point will take any award he can get — 12/16/2011 @ 10:12 am

    RU kiddin me dude? That award is MINE!

    OWSer who shoved homeless people out of Zuccotti so he could chow down on chicken French and goat-cheese ravioli (325a59)

  29. Hello? Awards Committee?

    Jerry Sandusky, whose lawyer really shouldn't be talking about soap in the shower. At all (325a59)

  30. Greetings 2011. Now that you’re at the end of the year, I’d like to explain how much better I am than you are.

    Res

    Ipsa

    Loquitur

    1985 (cb3719)

  31. Big deal, 1985. You couldn’t offer these neat numeric date sequences.

    October 11, 2012, 1:14 PM (1b1549)

  32. 31- Is that you Patrick?

    AD-RtR/OS! (1f61b8)

  33. ROFL.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  34. So, when do they announce the Dick In His Ear winner?

    Bawney Fwank (93603c)

  35. Romney-was $38, now $29.95
    Gingrich-was $36, now $27.20
    Perry-was $18, now $12. or, at $18- buy one, get one.

    Sam WalMart (7051ab)

  36. “Dick In His Ear”?

    I knew Dickie Durbin was a small person, but let’s not get ridiculus.

    Milton Berle (1f61b8)

  37. buy one, get one.

    Comment by Sam WalMart — 12/16/2011 @ 10:44 am

    HEY! That’s our gig!

    Bill and Hillary Clinton (325a59)

  38. See ya, life; I’m outta here! Time for an eternity of nothingness and — oh crap . . . who’s this chap?

    Hitch (93603c)

  39. When do they announce the D— In The Rear winner?

    Power Glutes (93603c)

  40. Ned Beatty had hisself a nice rear winner, yessir.

    Now who’s this Brit they just sent me says he don’ believe in the Lord? C’mere, boy. Say, that’s a real purty mouth ya got there . . .

    Bill McKinney, Deliverance actor, deceased Dec 1, 2011 (93603c)

  41. Knowing what’s waiting, ^^^ how bad can death be?

    Milky Loads (93603c)

  42. Comment by Milky Loads — 12/16/2011 @ 11:14 am

    (affecting perfect British accent) You’re not too bright, are you, old chap?

    Satan (325a59)

  43. I haven’t heard anything really bad about Ron Paul.

    Iowa caucus go-er (d3daeb)

  44. Good to know you aren’t paying attention, Iowa.

    Ron Paul (c65c00)

  45. Enough about politics, just in time for the holidays, Colonel wants to announce the launch of his new record label – Haiku Productions – with three hot new acts on tap:

    The Booty Call Ninjas

    Tha Vagilantes (all-womyn rockin’ band!)

    Purview of the Sad (featuring Dustin Timberperry)

    available at Rasputin Records and WalMart!

    Colonel Haiku (2add70)

  46. Believe in abortion or die.

    Obama (ef98f0)

  47. Kman,

    You better give Aaron Worthing’s real name, or I will tattle on you to the state bar!

    (click on the link and scroll down. Really, no joke I can tell can equal what actually happened.)

    Ron Brynaert (e7d72e)

  48. Well, thank God I was wrong about this…

    Christopher Hitchens in Heaven (e7d72e)

  49. Seriously, when my atheistic grandfather passed on, I remember saying this to my mother: “Well, he’s in a better place now. He is probably surprised to be there, but he’s in a better place.”

    Aaron Worthing the non-sock puppet (e7d72e)

  50. Message to fellow Atheist Bill Maher:

    Dear Bill: Now that I’m here, He said to tell you that you’re pretty much screwed.

    Christopher Hitchens (7051ab)

  51. ain’t nothin’ that a guy on a buffalo cain’t handle!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Lmkm5EF5E&feature=watch_response

    Guy on a Buffalo (2add70)

  52. Anyone out there got a boat or plane I can borrow? I was the original 99%, stealing from the rich and destroying thier property.

    Bare-foot Bandit (4f8b94)

  53. I sued for the right to marry in Hawaii.

    Nevermind that once the civil union law takes effect, my partner and I will “have all the same rights, benefits, protections,
    13 and responsibilities under law”. I want the “special status” of marriage.

    Natasha Jackson (64388b)

  54. Why would I push federal money to my husband’s bank? He just blows it on hookers and crack.

    Maxine Waters (7dbcdc)

  55. I used to think Guns should be illegal even if your law abiding now I think only the law abiding should own guns see I can flip-flop.

    Leftymom (ef98f0)

  56. Here’s to a successful hunger strike, Rep Keith Ellison!

    [raises symbolic pint of guinness]

    Zombie Bobby Sands (721840)

  57. So politicians are making important campaign decisions on the basis of the thought processes of people who have so little going on in their lives that they would sit through that many ads.

    I’d suggest another control group; one with DVR to skip the commercials.

    Bugg (ea1809)

  58. Michelle Bachmann will be my choice for Veep if only I can get her to change her ‘hatred’ for Muslims into some real hatred for Jooooooooos.

    Ronnnnn Paul. Doctor. (ea26b9)

  59. I shall be back with you shortly. I am in France at the moment, digging through Romney’s “dirt”.

    gary gulrud (a53963)

  60. Let me just say, in all candor, the idea of basing any campaign for leader of the free world on focus groups is utterly absurd. Especially when you’re a national figure, like me. And like Ronald Reagan. Did I mention Ronald Reagan? There. I just did. Again. As a national figure, my presence on the world stage and especially your television screen reminds Reagan democrats of Oliver Hardy and why you should vote for me. Who is Oliver Hardy? If you were a historian like me, you’d know he worked closely with Stan Laurel creating jobs and spreading the common, universal, God-given freedom of laughter around the world. And they were job creators. For cameramen. And sound technocians. And propmasters. And theater owners. And ticket takers, And ushers. And popcorn vendors. Popcorn grown in Iowa. Tasty popcorn that pops is random dorections just like my mind. Popcorn sold across America and in Hollywood. See how they made jobs…. just like Ronald Reagan did. Have I mention Ronald Reagan? There, I just did. Again. Stan was a lot like Mitt. Tall and zany. I’m a lot like Ollie. Bossy and misinformed. But as a team, they shared a commonality with Ronald Reagan. See, I mentioned Reagan again. And like Ollie, Stan and Ronald Reagan, I’m a celebrity, too. Did you notice how I managed to mention Ronald Reagan again. Did you notice how I bid the audience a Merry Christmas at our last debate instead of saying Happy Holidays, thereby back-handing celebrants of Hanukkah and Kwanzaa? There’s a war on Christmas, you know, so grab you pepper spray and fight for your right to buy any Chinese-made toy you can. And I said I balanced the budget. Did you catch that? All by myself. Jack Kemp helped some. He was a celebrity just like Ronald Reagan. And me. Did I mention Ronald Reagan and Jack Kemp were celebrities, just like me? There, I just did, again. Now my opponents who are attacking me should get the facts before they make some wild allegations about my influence peddling, my affairs and my half million dollar credit line at Tifany’s. The should listen to me as I lecture them. Because I’m a historian, you know. One of the highest paid historians in the history of history. So let’s be candid, do as I say, not as I do. Claiming that I’m condescending or, as we say in Iowa, that I talk down to my fellow candidates, like Michelle Bachmann, is simply absurd. It’s a recipe for disaster. And if Michelle spent more time in the kitchen like the good little woman she is, she’d know more about recipes. Why? Because traditional family values are under attack by the liberal media and that Socialist Stalinist, communist Kenyan, single marriage, father of two Obama. Did I mention Ronald Reagan yet? There, I just did. Again. You know, =inhale= Let me just say, in all candor…

    Newt Gingrich (9d1bb3)

  61. Abortion Rights are very good, and so is Roe V Wade, and Ronald Reagan’s policies are not mine. I’m a progressive who supports strong gun control. I like Obamacare for how it gets people to buy health insurance if they don’t want to via “incentives”. Ask yourself, how is Obamacare going to incentivize you to get health insurance? That’s the part I like the most.

    .

    Mitt Romney's views five minutes ago. (cb3719)

  62. Newt is uncool because he’s so smart. It makes me mad when someone is clearly smarter than Mitt Romney, who is the best man ever in every way.

    Also Newt has waffled on policy, and as a Mitt Romney fanboy, I think that is disgusting.

    Everyone should reject smartpants Newt who is smart but looks weird, because Mitt *looks* smart. The George Clooney distinction!

    Also, I hate when Newt mentions Reagan for some reason, which explains why I am a Mitt fan. When Mitt mentions reagan, half the time it’s to trash the man’s leadership for MA liberals.

    Mitt Romney's fanboy (cb3719)

  63. Let me just say, in all candor, the idea of basing any campaign for leader of the free world on focus groups is utterly absurd.

    Agreed 100%.

    It is so pathetic when a politician is clearly doing that. I wonder if his own family can look at him as a man. I seriously would love to ask Mitt what’s the point of being in politics at all if this is how he wants to ‘lead’. If he’s afraid, that’s understandable. Sticking up for your own views, whatever they are, is scary on stage. You might get asked a follow up question, and Mitt sometimes wets his pants when that happens, and it’s not very pretty and smells kinda bad because bullet proof underwear is actually not very absorbent at all.

    So why doesn’t Mitt just support those who are willing to enter the fire, take flack for what they believe, and lead?

    My Kisses Taste Like Tacos (cb3719)

  64. Isaac Asimov once had a dream. He dreamed he died and was being admitted to heaven and he wrote about it in his last autobiography book “I, Asimov”

    “But as an atheist how can I qualify?”

    The recording angel said sternly, “We decide who qualifies. Not you.”

    “I see,” I said.

    I looked about, pondered for a moment, then turned to the recording angel and asked, “Is there a typewriter here that I can use? …

    Data (b17872)

  65. I wonder if his own family can look at him as a man.

    Let me just say, in all candor, to wonder is truly absurd. I’m not just any man. I’m unequivocally a truly historical man. Just like Ronald Reagan. Did I mention Reagan? There, I just did. Again. Of course i’m nothing like Reagan at all. But but it sounds like I know what I’m talking about because I speak in an asserting tone using five dollar words to audiences with ten cent intellects and short attention spans in a hurry to go Christmas shopping. Although the leftist, Stalinist Hollywood elite have said I appear to be more like the Stay-Puff Marshmellow Man. Which from a historical perspective, is infinitely better than being labeled a leftist socialist symbol from France like the Michelin man. Of course Lady Liberty was a gift from France, but most Americans don’t know their own history. Neither do I, but it sounds like I do when I mention names you vagely remember from grade school like Lincoln, Douglas, Dred Scott and especially Robert E. Lee. He was a traitor to the United States, its Constitution and the very principles of our Founding Fathers you know. No matter. Because I’m a historian and can influence peddle just by what I say and don’t say. And I won’t say Lee was a traitor. But I wil lsay I’m the highest paid historian in the history of history by the way. Which makes me both a celebrated man and a famous man not only a historical figure famous for being the best paid historian in the history of everything. You understand? Of course not, but it sounds like I know what I’m talking about. Which is why when I mention Ronald Reagan, you’re supposed to swoon. Did I mantion I knew Roanld Reagan? There. I just did. Again. Did you know Reagan hasn’t run for an elective office since 1986– not much longer ago than I last ran for elected office? Did you know Ronald Reagan has not only been out office for nearly twenty fice years but that he has been dead for nearly a decade? No matter. Because he lives on television. With his jelly beans. And I am his jelly donut. Powdered white on top, soft, round, with no appreciable value, gooey red stuff in my middle and two holes, one at each end. You can see him with me on Fox TV every night. And why? Because I knew Ronald Reagan. Did I mention Reagan? There. I just did. Again. =inhale= Let me just say, in all candor…

    Newt Gingrich (9d1bb3)

  66. I have lived off the big government teat virtually my entire adult life.

    In fact, none of my challengers has sucked as much from the big government teat as me.

    That’s why you can trust me, as a certified big government teat sucker, to be a fiscal conservative if elected president.

    Apres moi, the entitlement reform.

    Rick Perry (bf33e9)

  67. Tweet! Tweeeeet! Personal foul, too much BS in the post! Ok Newt @ 61 and 66 I’m tossing you out of the game and to the showers, (where Sandusky is waiting for you).
    Ok, we got it 3 weeks ago, Newt is a long winded SOB. It’s getting a tad bit old.

    Sockpuppet Umpire (a1fcca)

  68. Maxine, If I hadn’t covered your fat rear end, you would have been in deeper doo doo than my pla Charlie R.

    Barney Frankenfurter (a1fcca)

  69. 68.Tweet! Tweeeeet!

    Let me just say without reservation, that to criticize all new forms of communication is simply absurd. As one of the highest paid historians in the history of history, let me state in all candor, and in all fifty states as well as the state of confusion, tweeting is not only a very effective form of communication with the young, it’s also something the young-hearted Ronald Reagan would embrace. Did I mention Ronald Reagan? There. I just did. again. And let me just say in all candor, Ronald Reagan would embrace Sandusky with great love and affection. For Reagan loves all of Sandusky, both Upper and Lower, as well as every Ohio voter in between. As do I. For as all Americans know, Buckeyes are useless nuts. =inhale= Let me just say…

    Newt Gingrich (9d1bb3)

  70. This is all historic.

    Revolutionary.

    A game changer.

    A pardagim shift.

    The toothpaste is out of the tube forever.

    Newtster (ea1809)

  71. In fact, none of my challengers has sucked as much from the big government teat as me.

    Romneycare alone, just that one signature from Mitt Romney, has sucked $20 billion from the federal government. Just welfare, basically. Only a scant tiny few on Romneycare do not get some level of government subsidy in there.

    Mitt Romney likes to spend other people’s money. A lot.

    Rick Perry, on the other hand, is criticizes for his compensation. Oh no… this guy isn’t one of the elite and shouldn’t earn six figures and live in a nice house. Why, if he does that, it’s ‘sucking at the government teat’. Even his pension, which is partly derived from years of military service, is called ‘teat sucking’. So if you risk your life for your country, your benefits are ‘teat’ sucking. No wait. Whats his face noted he only means Perry when he slams someone’s military service. If he likes you, then he respects your service (in other words, he doesn’t respect military service in and of itself).

    Such is the GOP of the Romney fan. Working for a living, getting a salary = sucking at the government teat, but Romneycare’s tax payer subsidized benefits are 100% AOK.

    Nothing but the dumbest most shameless politicking. If Romney wins the nomination, this will come to define us. If he is crushed, hopefully that will be the lesson.

    You know who (cb3719)

  72. Exactly what America needs in Washington right now is another politician who has spent his whole life sucking from a big government teat.

    I am that candidate and I’ve got the fully vested pension to prove it.

    Rick Perry (bf33e9)

  73. I have never been on two sides of an issue at the same time because squares have four sides.sedis ruof evah serauqs esuaceb emit emas eht ta eussi na fo sedis owt no neeb reven evah I

    Mitt Romney (9d1bb3)

  74. Brilliant idea flash.

    How about we take out life insurance policies on the lives of retired Texas teachers.

    Costs the state nothing because we buy the policies with loans secured by the cash value of the policies.

    When the teachers croak, the state collects the death benefit, pays off the loan and keeps the difference.

    Best part, my buddies at UBS get fees for arranging the deals so they can contribute more to my election campaigns.

    WIN WIN!!!!

    Wait, what?

    It don’t look good to bet on the lives of former state employees?

    You sure? Who told you that?

    Okay, never mind.

    Rick Perry (bf33e9)

  75. Costs the state nothing because we buy the policies with loans secured by the cash value of the policies.

    I did something like that….

    Jon Corzine (b17872)

  76. Who’d have thunk the price of French, Italian and Spanish government bonds would get even more out of kilter with reality? Then the banks wanted some more collateral, and….I…I – I really don’t know what exactly happened.

    I know more or less, but not exactly, but I’m not telling. I think I can figure out who might have improperly moved some money around, but I don’t want to name names. After all, I could be at least civilly liable. Criminally, I’m on safer ground.

    I mean, as my lawyer assures me, instructions should always be interpreted in such a way as to not involve breaking the law. And if something wouldn’t work without doing that, well, then they should have told me.

    After all, who’s the expert on this?? Not me. I was just the boss of the company. I’m a trader, and a politician, for crying out loud, not an accountant, a lawyer, a banker, or a (expletive deleted) bureaucrat!

    It’s the people who were making pennies to my dollars who are supposed to know all that stuff.

    Jon Corzine (b17872)

  77. U.S. Census figures indicate one in two Americans are living below the poverty line.

    Whelll, now you know what I meant when by trickle down. It isn’t gold, just golden on color. And warm. And wet. Suckers.

    Ronald Reagan (9d1bb3)

  78. Mommie, it’s cold down here.

    Ronald Reagan (9d1bb3)

  79. When my classmates were slugging it out with the communists in the rice patties of southeast asia – I did my part by watching from my hotel balconey in the heat of the Rivera – I showed the communists protesting the proletariate class there my displeasure and asked them to consider joining the LDS!

    BraveSirMitt (719277)

  80. Why do you pigs wanna raise my taxes?

    GeorgeSoros (ef98f0)

  81. Kim Jong Il Reportedly Dead

    I’m a doctor, not a dictator. He’s dead, Jim.

    DeForest Kelley (9d1bb3)

  82. Say, I have a lead on that missing money, so I’m heading off to a Carribean island with no extradition treaty . . . because I heard that the money is probably there . . . you know, on that island paradise . . . where there’s no extradition . . .

    Yeah, the money is definitely there . . .

    I’ll call in a few days and let you know.

    Honest injun!

    Jon Corzine (94b22d)

  83. Gotta love the left insisting that Israel defending themselves is based on Palestines religion………….they are useful idiots for the Moooooslims.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  84. Beneficially, I have the money, or I will when those European governments pay off their bonds at par before the end of next year. When the U.K. bankruptcy trustee sold the bonds below what you paid for them, I bought most of them. If your and my bet turns out to be wrong, well, I’ll still be solvent anyway. In that case the money went to the banks to pay off the loans you took to buy the bonds because they were sold for less than hey cost.

    Jon, you should have listened to Michael Roseman, your chief risk officer, instead of firing him. $1.5 billion was about as much as you could bet. You went up to $6 billion. I never bet more than one quarter of my wealth on any one proposition. It took me 20 or 30 years to get to the point where I could do things like what I do now. You’d never make a good poker player. Everything in one pot?

    I do this sort of thing in my sleep..When I was younger I thought if I was rich enough I could build my own country, or unite the world, using the ideas of Lennon.

    Imagine there’s no countries
    It isn’t hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too

    Now, I’m not so sure. But I keep on doing this. I do this in my sleep. I’m all invested now in a Brazilian oil company – the Brazilian real is more or less undervalued currency, but the product is oil, which is priced in Dollars, and production can be expected to go up, and up, and I got President Obama to promote drilling off the coast of Brazil. I’m all invested, but only up to about 25% of my wealth. I do this in my sleep..

    [note: fished from spam filter. –Stashiu]

    George Soros (b17872)


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