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12/7/2011

Rick Perry: Hey, I’m Doing Pretty Well in That Poll at “Hot Gas”

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 6:44 pm



I love this guy, I really do . . . but man. “Hot Gas”?

Allahpundit has a hilarious take:

Via Mediaite. My memory’s hazy but, as I recall, “Hot Gas” was one of the three finalists when we sat down to name the site in early 2006. Michelle had the trump card so we ended up where we ended up, but I’ve always wondered what might have been if my personal preference had won out. Imagine it: “Gassy Air.” Five years later, Perry would have turned that into “Gassy Gas” in today’s interview, which would have been a clip for the ages. Ah well.

By the way, I thought Tommy Christopher’s low point was when he insisted Nikki Reid was an underage girl, even after being told by Gennette Cordova that Nikki Reid was a fake. But I was wrong. Today he called Hot Air “the Michelle Malkin-founded, Ed Morrissey-run Hot Air.” Please! I love Ed, but the real attraction there is, and always has been, Allahpundit. For this gaffe, Christopher should turn in his press pass.

170 Responses to “Rick Perry: Hey, I’m Doing Pretty Well in That Poll at “Hot Gas””

  1. You know, Hot Gas… that wub-site on the intertube.

    He who vexes lives in Texas.

    Colonel Haiku (b19539)

  2. my favorite part is how the site celebrates Life with frequent updates on Life Issues

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  3. Tommy Xtopher is a f@cling clown. Kind of like our douchebag President.

    JD (9cf3ee)

  4. My love for Perry dropped after this, his new ad.

    Random (38d59c)

  5. The nerve of him speaking the truth.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  6. Colonel Haiku your fly is open.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  7. and your head is up your strada chocolata, biden.

    Colonel Haiku (b19539)

  8. that is a very very obnoxious ad Mr. Random but you have to think like an inbred born-again gap-toothed Iowa corn warden

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  9. now, enough nonsense.

    Colonel Haiku (b19539)

  10. I think that I read about this on the Daily Cause. In any case, it’s good that Federico.com is keeping up to speed.

    carlitos (49ef9f)

  11. But you have to think like an inbred born-again gap-toothed Iowa corn warden.

    Gasp happyfeet that is no way to treat yourself.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  12. pickles!

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  13. Happyfeet why do you insult yourself like that?

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  14. Where in the world did you get the idea Allahpundit was the real attraction at Hot Air? He’s universally thought of as, at best, a Country Club Republican. Ed gets much more respect.

    Capitalist Infidel (13ac93)

  15. It’s a good thing Governor Perry takes his gaffes in stride. He seems to make more than his fair share.

    In other news, Newt Says He’d Tap Bolton for SoS. So that’s good.

    Dana (4eca6e)

  16. I hope Colin Powell chokes on it Dana

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  17. You hope Colin Powell chokes on what?

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  18. Colin Powell is very very pissy about all things John Bolton, probably cause Mr. Bolton showed Colin up to be the pusillanimous maladroit weakling we all came to know him to be

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  19. Perry’s quotes are hilarious, almost better than Bushisms. These two men have been the governors of Texas since 1994 and look at what Texas has done during those 15+ years. It must make the other 49 states feel like SNL’s Dukakis — how can we be losing to this?

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  20. Allahpundit pretty much captures my journey to conservatism circa 2004ish.

    carlitos (49ef9f)

  21. Bandar’s tennis partner, really does irk me,

    narciso (87e966)

  22. Brother Bandar, in Colin-speak

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  23. Sssshhh . . . if you listen closely you can hear Dustin and EPWJ strategerizing their repudiation . . .

    Icy (cd23b0)

  24. Ssssssssshhhh. listen closely to the video in reverse and you’ll hear perry saying I love that spicy meatball.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  25. no play it in reverse and you’ll hear Perry say Beezlebub is his homie.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  26. Raising income taxes on the rich while completely ignoring Michael Moore is extremely hypocriticla of Senor Cuomo.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  27. Frack you Blitz!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  28. In other news, Newt Says He’d Tap Bolton for SoS. So that’s good.

    That is good. Thanks for that link, I saw a mention at the Mediaite link of “the Bolton thing Gingrich did today”, and have been looking for news about it. Now if Huntsman can duplicate that promise…

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  29. More from that Mediaite link:

    Perry also made a rather offhand, extremely off-color reference, telling Blitzer that it’s “Newt’s time in the barrel.”

    Considering that phrase’s NSFW origin, it’s an odd choice for a guy who’s loudly opposing gay everything these days.

    To which I say “huh”? The link he provides does not back up his contention that there’s anything in the least off-colour about it. It tells an off-colour joke that uses the phrase, which is a very very different thing. On the contrary, the site documents that the phrase is military slang, used without blushing by generals; and the military is undoubtedly where Perry picked it up.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  30. Where in the world did you get the idea Allahpundit was the real attraction at Hot Air? He’s universally thought of as, at best, a Country Club Republican. Ed gets much more respect.

    Ed’s writing style is, to me, boring and predictable. Allah’s oozes dry humor.

    Allahpundit and Bryan Preston built that site. Bryan, by the way, is a good writer, but a wonderful thinker.

    I liked Ed as a standalone blogger, but I find him the least interesting of the writers there. His friend, Jazz Shaw, is so/so, but not great. Tina Korbe is, I think, quite competent, but so straight-laced that she loses me a lot of the time.

    Allahpundit doesn’t. Love the guy.

    Anyway, we’re all going to have different opinions on whose writing and thinking we like the best, but to say, full stop, no one likes Allahpundit and Ed Morrissey is, hands down, the cat’s meow, is way too simplistic.

    They all have their strengths and weaknesses. I find Ed quite levelheaded, for example, but sometimes too much so. Sometimes a more wild, revolutionary streak captures a story or a mood or reality better, and Ed is slow to see it.

    Still a good guy. But his prose! Argh.

    Random (38d59c)

  31. The phrase your turn in a barrel has a bawdy origin, but seriously, who would know the origin? Not everybody, that’s for sure, you just pick it up and use it (and the military can be a bawdy place, after all, where language is concerned).

    I don’t consider that a big deal, but having been so advised, Perry will probably drop it going forward.

    Random (38d59c)

  32. Random, that’s funny, I consider Allah boring and his “humor” predictable. You always know that he’s going to try and be humorous right after he does some Country Club Republican post.

    Though I was referring more to “respect” from the readers than how they write. Just go back to the beginning of the tea party and Allah’s complete and total hatred of them to see how much respect he garners. He insults his readers in the comment section with childish quips when anyone dare disagree with him. His irrational hatred for the tea party became tedious.

    Capitalist Infidel (13ac93)

  33. Allahpundit left out his best like from Twitter: “Ed’s the hot part, I’m the gassy part.”

    …and there’s a lot of love for AP in the HA comment thread, too.

    Karl (e39d6b)

  34. The phrase your turn in a barrel has a bawdy origin, but seriously, who would know the origin?

    Seriously, what’s your source for its origin? Certainly not the link that Xopher provided.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  35. Where in the world did you get the idea Allahpundit was the real attraction at Hot Air? He’s universally thought of as, at best, a Country Club Republican. Ed gets much more respect.

    I like Ed and don’t mean to run him down by saying this, but: Allah is just the most entertaining (and levelheaded) blogger on the Web. Hands down.

    Patterico (f724ca)

  36. Could someone please remind me why we aren’t supporting Huntsman? I remember dismissing him early in the process, and I haven’t paid any attention to him since, but I can no longer remember why. And if Perry’s out of the picture and it’s down to Romney and Gingrich, should Huntsman be worth a second look?

    Looking at his web site for information on him doesn’t seem all that useful; I don’t want to know what’s good about him, I want to know what’s bad, and he’s unlikely to tell me that. So is there a quick summary somewhere of the case against him?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  37. I had a quick check of likely sources, and so far the only thing I’m coming up with that would have seriously turned me against him is his having fallen for the global warmening scam. But Gingrich has the same problem, so if I can swallow it in his case then why not in Huntsman’s?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  38. Allahpundit- a rinos dream writer.

    sickofrinos (44de53)

  39. That ^^^ doesn’t quite seem to be cricket, eh?

    Icy (c4524c)

  40. Milhouse

    Quite a few consevatives were worried at the avalanche of “facts” that later turned out to be bogus crapola.

    Huntsmen is a solid conservative,, basically the only non-conservatives in the current field of candidates are Paul and Romney

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  41. Stop trying to think. It’s making MY head hurt!

    Icy (c4524c)

  42. Some of my friends in the Tea Party have dubbed it
    ‘Tepid Air’ because of the Rinoish tendency, I lean more toward the Green Room, Dyer, formerly Doc Zero,

    narciso (87e966)

  43. narcisco

    if you think Allah and Ed are rino’s then you missed the entire experience which is a shame because there has been some really good stuff, really good stuff there.

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  44. It’s a good aggregator, however I’m speaking of their editorial slant, you do know who was No. 1,

    narciso (87e966)

  45. Allah occasionally criticizes the Establishment’s anointed, loyal but ‘helpful’. The Cap’n is an aparatchik, full-throttle spinmeister.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  46. I think it’s the other way, around Gary,

    narciso (87e966)

  47. 46. TweedleDum, TweedleDee, if you please.

    T-Paw got no love save the Cap’n post-ObamaneyCare duck and cover. Powerline had long deserted. Then Romney became inevitable. At least Allah called him out every couple of weeks.

    OTOH, at least they’re above mixing it up with the ‘rabid’ commenters unlike the porcine Ace.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  48. saying that allah spins anything is strange, in fact he regularly questions EVERTHING

    Ed is a good guy, rock solid, ith eery living human being we are all different and ed calls it as he sees it

    pat to me is a combination of both of their best qualities

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  49. Well someone had to stick up for Tpaw, but focusing
    all resources on the Iowa strawpoll, was a Kamikazi
    Scotsman move.

    narciso (87e966)

  50. >>But you have to think like an inbred born-again gap-toothed Iowa corn warden.

    Since when is opposing the repeal of DADT an unacceptable position in the Republican party? Back in December PEW polled Republicans and found 44% were opposed to repealing it and 40% were for repealing it. And, when they broke out the internals, the vast majority of *conservative* Republicans opposed repeal of DADT. Perry is clearly making a play for conservatives.

    I know Random is very *concerned* about that ad, since he has been expressing his concern a lot at Ace, but I’ll just renew my reaction to it — it was fine. I am not a “so con” (the clear target audience for that ad) but there was nothing offensive in that ad. It was intended to highlight the mixed up priorities of this administration that is supposedly so “tolerant” about some things (that are not in alignment with the majority of conservatives) but intolerant about traditional things like celebrating Christmas.

    Y-not (e7d1c7)

  51. no it was really bigoty to juxtapose gay soldiers – people what are serving their country – with children not being able to celebrate christmas I think – that being one of the rights those gay soldiers Rick Perry scorns are fighting for

    and this ludicrous p.o.s. Palinesque dumb bunny whore wants to turn around and be commander in chief of those soldiers?

    whore thy name is Rick Perry

    but he’d be a better president than Obama!

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  52. well said, happy

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  53. Talking to yerself again?

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  54. And to think, they were concerned she would take such an off the wall, tack, ‘we really dodged a bullet, Meanwhile, a terrorist attack on a military
    base, is labeled ‘work place violence, and it wasn’t stopped, because it would interfere with
    the diversity in the Army,

    narciso (87e966)

  55. Selina Kyle Hunstman a conservative?

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  56. This guy is so painful to watch sometimes.

    I can only imagine what it would have been like to watch our greatest politicians and leaders throughout history.

    Surely some of them had both a command of their presentation AND true patriotism and vision, such as Ronald Reagan.

    However, it does seem that the former is not an accurate proxy for the latter.

    It’s pretty understandable that Republicans are tired of being represented by a man who may be quite capable and smart, but is easily portrayed as a moron. That gets very old.

    Perry has the best plan, and I hope President Gingrich puts that to work. Honestly, I still think Perry’s the best candidate except for the politics aspect, which I grant is very important.

    Anyone But Romney, because Romneycare is treading too close to socialism to be tolerable.

    Dustin (cb3719)

  57. dustin

    gingrich has no intention of getting th nomination – he missed Ohio’s deadline and others are looming – its hard to win if you are not on the ballot

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  58. However, after all the speculation, Newt Gingrich was one of three Republican presidential candidates to adhere to today’s suggested deadline in Ohio. Rick Perry and Mitt Romney also filed today in Ohio. Michele Bachmann, Jon Huntsman, Ron Paul and Rick Santorum have not yet filed with the Ohio of Secretary of State.

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  59. Gingrich is just on a book tour.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  60. Plus everybody but Perry has invisible double secret probation deals with Romney.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  61. Eric will man up and admit his mistake in 3, 2, 1 . . .

    Icy (c4524c)

  62. 57, 58. Quinnipiac today has Gingrich with 20 point leads over Romney.

    How long do we give the millionares before they figure out their tack of “All the Insiders think Newt is a narcissist dirtbag sexual predator” is actually an endorsement?

    Too late.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  63. 62. Doh, 20 pts in OH and PA. *millionaires

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  64. .9 . . . .8 . . . .7 . . .

    Icy (c4524c)

  65. gingrich has no intention of getting th nomination

    It appears epwj has defined his newest target of his lies and smears.

    JD (09e5ab)

  66. point six . . . point five . . . point four . . .

    Icy (c4524c)

  67. Happy

    gingrich missed the deadline in ohio according to Rove, you can file but he didnt get the required siqnatures – he also like Cain still doesnt have a campaign staff nor does he even have a fundraising team

    Great, another book tour guy…

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  68. he also like Cain still doesnt have a campaign staff nor does he even have a fundraising team

    Demonstrably untrue. The new meme for the idiot surfaces.

    JD (09e5ab)

  69. Whats that? Jd just wrote something without links

    Citation please Jd – oh thats right JD makes stuff up like he was asked to attend baseballs winter meeting and other stuff.

    Some leftwing rag wrote this about Newt – they are wildly inaccurate (something JD is very familiar with)

    That could happen in part because Mr. Gingrich has little or no campaign organization in Iowa and most other states. He didn’t file a complete slate of New Hampshire delegates and alternates. He is the only candidate who didn’t qualify for the Missouri primary, and on Wednesday he failed to present enough signatures to get on the ballot in Ohio. Redistricting squabbles may lead the legislature to move the primary to a later date and re-open filing, but it’s still embarrassing to be so poorly organized

    – The Wall Street Journal

    As JD said – demonstrably untrue

    Have you spoken yet to the FBI – they are waiting for you – I can give you the agents name and number – they want all that information that only you claimed to have on Murkowski.

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  70. Get help, you clown.

    JD (09e5ab)

  71. You claimed Newt has no campaign staff, or even a fundraising team. I suppose he is operating his webiste by himself, and organizing fundraisers and soliciting donors personally? Why settle for the truth when lies are so much easier for you.

    I missed you in Dallas. Terribly.

    JD (09e5ab)

  72. Prof. Jacobson, who is lately behind Newt, collects the awesomeness that is Team Romney:

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/12/romney-brings-out-big-guns-shoots-self-in-foot/

    Podhoertz BTW, is Jenny Rubin’s bro.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  73. 69. Uh, Eric, if one were to read Feets’ link, the effective date for filing in OH for the June primary will be March:

    “The Ohio secretary of state, however, has suggested that presidential candidates adhere to today’s filing deadline as a precautionary measure, since a new law pushing back the filing deadline until March 14 hasn’t taken effect yet.”

    So Bachmann, et al., have a little time.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  74. Oh, and the same link has Newt explaining that no delegates were in play with the MO primary so they chose to skip filing.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  75. JD

    Citation please?

    Anyone can purchase a fud raising website – its totally different from a fund raising professional who makes a multi state staff

    ron paul has raised millions with about 5 people – but know one thinks that ron Paul is running for president

    Grow up JD, quit representing yourself as some broker of all that is the truth and actually listen to people – i quoted the Wall Street Journal who listed facts

    You came out with

    Liar liar….

    Its you who have a different opinion – and I dont thin you are lying just because you disagree with me – just as you have this fantasy that you have evidence in your file cabinet that Murkowski is corrupt and that the MLB invited you to their winter meeting.

    Doesnt mean that you are a liar – just have an opinion –

    I try all the time to back up all my opinions with facts.

    Not you though, but you hurl and make a total fool out of yourself by hurlting reckless accusations when time and time again facts seem not to help your arguments

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  76. sad really

    Wall street journal and JD who ya going to believe?

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  77. You accusing others of making fools of themselves?

    😆

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  78. gary

    Yeah Ohio moved it back but it wont matter – its a real task to go to every county and get signatures – you have to want to be on the ballot – Gingrich still has to get the signatures, make sure they are legit, its just not that easy for the flaor of a day to get people to go out there and spend terrible winter weather days getting people to sign something

    Not going to happen, Newts going to keep the money – he knows he wont win, he’s a very smart man – he gets to keep all that money for his “pac” activities – bus rides – first class plane trips, niiice hotels – sure Gary go write the guy a check…

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  79. I never claimed MLB invited me anywhere, liar. I never claimed specific knowledge of corrupt actions either. Those are fantasy constructs you created. You did claim, however, that he has no campaign staff, or fundraising staff. Had you claimed they are small staffs, or smaller than most others left in the race, nobody would have responded, since that would be true. But you chose a different path, where truth shall never wander.

    JD (554e77)

  80. Massages, consulting contracts for his wife and kids, paid access to political events to hawk his consulting business, publishing books, condo’s awww

    Yes everyone write Newt a check!

    i like the guy, I know he’s not running

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  81. Grow up?!

    Nobody thinks Ron Paul is running for President. Except me. I think he is. And he thinks he is. And his crazy supporters think he is. But you have deemed him a not-candidate, like you have done with everyone else – Palin, Cain, Newt. You are a broken record.

    JD (554e77)

  82. Umm JD yes you did, to both now come on dude, I’m not going argue with a guy who totally makes stuff up.

    The Wall Street Journal JUST REPORTED that He has no campign staff – to run for president – I’ll bet if you look at who is working his campaign they are staffers from Gingrich inc IE they are already paid by him.

    His paid staff left him for Perry and they haven’t returned either.

    Go ahead JD write him a check

    So how was the winter baseball meeting?

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  83. “…I try all the time to back up all my opinions with facts….”

    Um. Like your claiming I called you a terrorist.

    Something you have never apologized for saying, incidentally.

    Or shall we also bring out some of your, well, curious versions of the world?

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  84. I claimed neither of the above. You are a liar.

    The winter meetings were fun. We got several good leads, and had productive meetings with existing clients. But you claimed that I said MLB invited me, which was a lie. More like my boss told me to attend.

    Why do you assume I would write him a check? Pointing out your lies does not imply support for the target of your lies.

    JD (554e77)

  85. Oh, and Eric?

    “…Citation please Jd – oh thats right JD makes stuff up like he was asked to attend baseballs winter meeting and other stuff….”

    Do you really want to get into it with people over who makes stuff up around here? I mean, given your background and history?

    We could always bring in Rightwingsparkle, for example.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  86. The MLB gatherings in December are referred to as the “Winter Meetings,” plural.

    carlitos (49ef9f)

  87. Capitalism and Communism don’t mix.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  88. I, on the other hand, have been invited to the pan-arab cricketeers meeting in Dubai. While my co-attendees will be holed up in our 6 star hotel, I will be out on a tour, looking for would-be entrepreneurs to do some micro-lending.

    carlitos (49ef9f)

  89. Carlitos – I just sent you some pictures from the event(s) that I did not attend.

    JD (554e77)

  90. Thanks. John Kruk looks a big boy. I have fond memories of his final playing days for the White Sox. He hit a single, stopped on first and retired with his career average at exactly .300, saying something like “I’m spending the rest of the season going to Sizzler buffet.” Awesome.

    carlitos (49ef9f)

  91. JD

    Good for you! Sales meeting keep the machines going!

    howeer – I’m going to ask a citation for all that information that you only seem to have on Newts campaign staff, you seem to be moving the goalposts – which – if I tried to contradict the Wall Street Journal – who let one of the most knowledgable political consultants of all time write the article – please JD enlighten us with your sources

    After you open the Murkowski file eh?

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  92. :roll: I thought lowering taxes was a bad thing.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  93. I am not arguing with the WSJ. It is you who claimed here that Newt has no campaign or fundraising staff.

    Carlitos – he was, by far, the coolest and most personable one that I met.

    JD (554e77)

  94. I’m surprised that Rick Perry isn’t being blamed for Cancer or the heartbreak of psoriasis.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  95. How do people suffer from 2nd hand smoke if they aren’t breathing it in?

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  96. Now that is humor:

    “…you seem to be moving the goalposts…”

    EPWJ is just a joke, personified. Has everyone else noticed how much he accuses other people of things he does?

    Except other people don’t brag about getting their haircut at the Four Seasons. In fact, I’m sure it was at the Five Seasons. Even better.

    LIke I said, DCSCA without spellcheck!

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  97. EricPWJohnson is a hippie.

    Ooooooooooops did I offend hippies will I be on the news now.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  98. President doesn’t want young girls to have to access to the plan B pill without permission.

    Right wing oppressor of womenz…………………oh wait never mind.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  99. Eric, loathe as I am to wade into yet another damn stupid fight on this blog, I think it’s ridiculous to suggest JD is being dishonest.

    Frankly, you’ve got him completely wrong. He doesn’t pretend to be an objective unbiased observer. Anyone paying attention knows what his views are. he’s a straight shooter about it. Even when I disagree with him, I know where he’s coming from, and usually have to grant he at least has an honest argument.

    Also, Murkowski is a snake. Breitbart remains unindicted.

    You and I both prefer Perry, but Newt’s earned some respect, in my opinion, for how he’s handled himself so far. I think he’s 100$ credible as a candidate. Since he’s a not-Romney who can win, I think he’s worth some consideration.

    Dustin (cb3719)

  100. 100%, rather than $100.

    Dustin (cb3719)

  101. Yes wait until Perry says drill here drill now the left will trot out the nigerian film Black Gold to make him look like an evil man.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  102. Well Perry rehired much of Newt’s former staff, including Johnson,except for Carney who is his Rove,

    narciso (87e966)

  103. Meanwhile, we are being ‘fracked’ by the EPA, wonder if Gina McCarthy made the decision,

    narciso (87e966)

  104. 78. Oh, come on PeeWee, he’s got 50% support today and nearly 4 months. Volunteers could get that done.

    Who are you for anyway. Not Romney, Gingrich, Perry, Santorum, Palin or Bachmann. Tweren’t for Cain.

    Are you for Lord of the Flies, perchance?

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  105. Well Perry rehired much of Newt’s former staff, including Johnson,except for Carney who is his Rove,

    Comment by narciso — 12/8/2011 @ 3:30 pm

    It makes sense to me. Perry is more conservative, imo, but they are similar and appeal to a lot of the same people. Newt wrote the intro to Perry’s book.

    And Perry’s ads have been fantastic. I hope there’s not so much bad blood that these staffers don’t happily reunite with Newt in a few months, assuming he is the nominee, because I really like Perry’s ads.

    Dustin (cb3719)

  106. Dustin

    Newt has to get on the ballots to actually run

    Just sayin

    Given the nature of these polls and the early attacks and gang rap$ of perry in those first 3 debates is the only reason Cain and Newt are where they are

    We all know Newt we all know he’s conservative but green, squishy to the max on defense – thinks he can go brow beat the arabs at the UN rather than park marines and Navy carriers off their coasts

    Newt has done wonderful things, but then he’s not as accomplished as Perry and Tom Delay was as much to credit for the contract with America as Newt was – if not more

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  107. This is good, considering the flak it is generating;

    http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/rick-perry-ad-criticizes-1254937.html

    narciso (87e966)

  108. JD said he attended the winter meetings he didnt – he was a vendor at a trade fair that really had nothing to do with the winter meetings

    He has no problem telling me my business what seminars what experience I had, mocking my moving to Jakarta but when he out and out lies and leaves the insinuation that he some some kind of insider in the MLB – well it was too good to pass up.

    He did this years ago on Kathleens blog its not the first time he’s kinda said he’s apart of the professional sports world

    He’s a vendor, had to pay to be there.

    Not what he said the other day

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  109. 109 was addressed to Dustin

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  110. An interesting detail is that Warfield, a Dole man,
    is behind the ‘Strong’ ad, whereas Fabrizio, someone who was with Buchanan, forgets the first rule of fight club;

    narciso (87e966)

  111. So Dustin, when I was just echoing the wall street journal and JD starts his look I’m a Jeffy too thing without realizing I’m actually not the one saying it?

    And where was everyone when he was saying crap when I wasnt even posting?

    Cains gone, deserved to be, hopefully no one will hire him again

    Newt was there for consulting, now he;s a front runner, milking it because he knows he cant do the job, he doesnt want the job, nor is he going to get the job.

    Its alot of no-show money, I mean do you think Newt was putting in 40 50 hours a week for fannie may? Someone is touting that he made over 100 million dollars in consulting feess in the lat few years – I dont believe that number but if its true – no way he’s going to get it.

    I’m just waiting for the first votes to be cast – Perry seems to be running nonstop ads nationwide that are powerful and hard hitting without the Paul nuttiness – and republican primary voters are hard to poll usually they are at work and hate eing called on the weekends so much of this polling are moderate and independents

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  112. And just to prove my assetions – Newt just said Romney’s on his short list for VP – which means

    “I think people have forgotten my considerable past and now I remind them by picking Mitt”

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  113. assertions – srrrry

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  114. I insinuated nothing. You took my words and made them out to be something that I did not say. I never claimed any insider status here or anywhere else. You are lying. Again. The idea that u did not go to something I actually attended is absurd. Seek help. I know better than to respond to you, it ends the same way every time.

    JD (554e77)

  115. Otto making something up, JD, ‘shirley you can’t be serious’

    narciso (87e966)

  116. The WSJ did not assert what you ASSerted.

    JD (554e77)

  117. Like William Goldman said about the film business, no one knows anything;

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/09/gingrich-senior-campaign-staff-resigns/

    narciso (87e966)

  118. Newt and Ron Paul are not really running for President. Everyone is imagining that. And there are 2,000,000 Jews in Iran.

    JD (554e77)

  119. Okay, enough is enough. EPWJ is saying that JD lied about some pretty concrete stuff. JD says that isn’t true.

    So EPWJ should put up his evidence, with links.

    If he doesn’t, he should apologize…or (in my opinion, better) go away.

    Anyone else tired on EPWJ’s nonsense? If everyone thinks he is all coolio and honest, please speak up.

    JD gives more value to this comment section than you have, EPWJ. So put up, or shut up.

    By the way, speaking of nasty lies, I am still waiting for you to produce evidence that I ever called you a terrorist, or your apology for that accusation.

    Since you are all about the honesty.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  120. Eric, I don’t want to hash it out. Obviously I’m totally capable of doing that, but it’s probably getting very tiresome for everyone else.

    I believe Newt is a serious but unconventional candidate. I know JD is an honest commenter. That’s all I’m saying.

    Dustin (cb3719)

  121. Chris Matthews… what an idiot.

    Colonel Haiku (687f10)

  122. Frankly, I hesitate to even note JD’s integrity, as I think it speaks for itself and it’s insulting to suggest he needs someone to establish it.

    Dustin (cb3719)

  123. This cracked me up.

    HotGas got loads of free advertizing on network scrolls.

    Gig Em’

    workingclass artist (f2fc32)

  124. Dustin

    Really based upon what?

    Has he ever added to a discussion other than insulting anyone he disagree’s with?

    JD has really just nothing to contribute – when he actually does say something that isnt a remark on someone else – I read it and agree with him almost 100% of the time

    But mmost of the time he just makes comments on others – personally – I find that type of discourse – which you dont like from some people – extremely petty and dishonest

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  125. Someone call me when epwj passes out again.

    JD (318f81)

  126. This should have been a funnier thread, really. At least I thought it was hilarious after I facepalmed the ‘hot gas’ thing.

    Dustin (cb3719)

  127. @Random

    “The phrase your turn in a barrel has a bawdy origin, but seriously, who would know the origin? ”

    It’s also a rodeo term. After a Rodeo Clown distracts an angry bull from a rider the clown jumps in the barrel when Bulls charge. It’s a common phrase in Texas politics denoting a candidate undergoing the “treatment” by the media. Media being the bull and the candidate being the clown.

    Takes guts to get in the Rodeo which is what Texans call campaigns.

    workingclass artist (f2fc32)

  128. It’s also a rodeo term. After a Rodeo Clown distracts an angry bull from a rider the clown jumps in the barrel when Bulls charge. It’s a common phrase in Texas politics denoting a candidate undergoing the “treatment” by the media.

    Yeah, that explains it, not that I had a problem with the other plausible explanation. So that’s no biggie.

    That said, Í’ll reiterate my opinion that Perry’s “Strong” ad was disappointing for the reason happyfeet gave.

    Former, if brief, Perry supporter saying go Newt!

    The Santorum-Gingrich is sure going to be interesting, eh? lol Oh well, I like both guys, even though I disagree with both on some social policy (the gay marriage thing: I’m down with pro-life).

    Random (38d59c)

  129. ^debate

    Random (38d59c)

  130. National Soros Radio inaugurates their anti-Gingrich campaign today

    just like your sillier evangelical half-wits, National Soros Radio has decided his marriagings are the most important thing about his presidential campaign

    Wall Street Romney as you know has put it to the same wench a good half-dozen times over the last 42 years, so that would be a contrast National Soros Radio is keen for you to know about.

    Sex-obsessed baptist Dick Land makes a prominent appearance…

    Richard Land, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, is hearing similar murmurings. Land has conducted about 200 focus groups. He says that when asked about Gingrich’s infidelities, men are willing to “let bygones be bygones.” But evangelical women want more.

    “I think what they want to hear is that he really understands the pain and the suffering and the sense of betrayal that comes when you are unfaithful to your spouse,” Land says.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  131. I would take EPWJ more seriously if he dealt with #120. But then, I think he is a troll.

    Before you accuse ANYONE ELSE of dishonesty, you have to deal with your own actions.

    Or you could ask Rightwingsparkle to speak up for you. Right?

    Simon Jester (9c8a48)

  132. If everyone thinks he is all coolio and honest, please speak up.

    I like some of his comments, but have no idea about who’s right/wrong/whether it matters at all.

    Random (38d59c)

  133. i ask about your turtle and you ask about the weather!

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  134. I hate to do this… I suspect I’m going to regret it…

    I actually appreciate some of EPWJ’s comments, and I think his heart is in the right place. I know that’s very hard for some to accept. There was a point where I thought exactly what Simon did.

    but EPWJ does sometimes bring an intelligent POV. I’m not the judge of him, I just don’t think he’s of zero merit.

    I do think he takes things too far when criticizing those he’s decided to criticize. I pretty much always is not an accurate analysis, to put it mildly.

    But sorry… I actually like some of the guy’s comments. And he agreed to leave Palin alone and he’s proven to be a man of his word on that. I have my own politicians I just cannot resist trashing, such as Obama and Romney, so I know that’s a challenge for him.

    Dustin (cb3719)

  135. oh hey here’s BONUS election news from our friends at National Soros Radio

    Conservative Video Paints Thrice-Wed Gingrich As GOP’s Kim Kardashian

    note again the key takeaway is that Mr. Newt married too much (unlike Wall Street Romney who only married one, albeit slightly stepford, hoochie mama.)

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  136. Attacking Rubio’s citizenship, doubling down on the attacks on Haley, I think his probation has lapsed,
    Dustin. I think a criticism of some off Newt’s policy foibles is more preductive.

    narciso (87e966)

  137. You’re right, Narciso. I’m not arguing against Simon or JD who are fed up with this crap. The guy consistently goes too far on some of these people. It’s worse than tiresome.

    like a couple of other folks I have arguments with here, I think Eric’s heart is in the right place, but somewhere along the way he just goes for broke bashing whoever he’s criticizing with basically anything he can come up with.

    My only point is that I don’t think he’s a troll or a moby or anything like that.

    Dustin (cb3719)

  138. Lots of people actually disagree with us (and I’m sure I disagree with lots of you from time to time). That doesn’t make them trolls (Mobys maybe, if they pretend to be GOP supporters and aren’t).

    Random (38d59c)

  139. gingrich missed the deadline in ohio according to Rove, you can file but he didnt get the required siqnatures – he also like Cain still doesnt have a campaign staff nor does he even have a fundraising team
    Great, another book tour guy…

    Comment by EricPWJohnson — 12/8/2011 @ 12:24 pm
    — Back here in reality land, ABC News reports:
    The suggested filing deadline to appear on the ballot in the Ohio primary was 4 p.m. today, and earlier this week there was questioning as to whether Newt Gingrich would be able to file the necessary signatures  to qualify for the ballot by this afternoon’s deadline.
    However, after all the speculation, Newt Gingrich was one of three Republican presidential candidates to adhere to today’s suggested deadline in Ohio. Rick Perry and Mitt Romney also filed today in Ohio. Michele Bachmann, Jon Huntsman, Ron Paul and Rick Santorum have not yet filed with the Ohio of Secretary of State.

    Icy (c4524c)

  140. The left think private-sector unions are damaging america because they believe in capitialism

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  141. The private-sector unions that is.

    Dohbiden (ef98f0)

  142. a troll is just a friend you don’t like very much

    on the internet

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  143. Except when they lie about you, Mr. Feet. Repeatedly.

    Simon Jester (9c8a48)

  144. Icy

    The Wall Steet Journal Reports Gingrich didnt make the Ballot

    I’ll go with them

    Simon,

    You’re talking about JD right?

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  145. The Hill reports he missed

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/197851-gingrich-gets-second-chance-for-ohio-ballot

    It is confusing, but not really ABC got it wrong, the WSJ, The Washington Times and the Hill Magazine got it right

    He also missed New Hampshire, and Missouri – in NH he has partially met the requirements

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  146. Still, the Ohio Secretary of State asked candidates to adhere to the old deadline in case the legislature changed its’ mind again and returned the primary date to March, when local primaries are being held, according to a report in TPM.

    “If they didn’t file by today they wouldn’t have a second opportunity – so it’s more of an advice that our office has given,” Matt McClellan, a spokesman for the Ohio Secretary of State, told TPM.

    EricPWJohnson (4380b4)

  147. It’s a non binding primary, with a caucus, you Jakarta jackalope, jeez.

    narciso (87e966)

  148. The Wall Steet Journal Reports Gingrich didnt make the Ballot
    I’ll go with them

    — It’s getting to the point where you MUST delight in being wrong.

    Icy (9af951)

  149. Eric is “steet” smart

    Icy (9af951)

  150. And Aristotle is still not Belgian,

    narciso (87e966)

  151. 125. “Over-the-top”? Discuss in more detail. Hayward is the Powerline guy, no?

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  152. I dunno. I think maybe Perry is flushing out the liberal fanatics early with this ad. Like other issues in the LiberalPutsch despite Big Media coverage these aren’t settled issues in the culture.

    Maybe by targeting evangelicals in Iowa he’s getting this out of the way early in the race.

    I guess we’ll see how it plays out.

    workingclass artist (f2fc32)

  153. Btw, just to burst another meme, Carhartts is not unique to fracking ‘Broke Back Mountain’ it’s very popular in a whole host of states;

    narciso (87e966)

  154. johnson is The Teats
    who cares if they are on boar?
    The Teats are The Teats

    Colonel Haiku (687f10)

  155. No EPWJ, I’m talking about you lying about me. But you will run away, like the troll liar you are.

    Simon Jester (3ffeae)

  156. “The Wall Steet Journal Reports Gingrich didnt make the Ballot”

    EPWJ – Rove or the Wall Street Journal?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  157. @narciso

    The “Brokeback jacket” is Corduroy and is a silly retort by the tweetering classes. I mean how lame is that?

    At the debate tomorrow Perry will probably be asked about this ad and he will defend it saying the there is a war on religion.

    “The evidence of his White House attacking the Christian faith, however, is plentiful.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/08/rick-perry-president-obama-and-war-on-christianity/#ixzz1g37CkaKZ

    Perry will probably also reiterate that Obama has used the military as a political tool while we are fighting 2 wars. He’s said that he’d reinstate DADT as a policy to insure unit cohesion and not expel Gays who have been open since the repeal but confer with commanders. As flawed as DADT compromise was it kept these culture wars from disrupting the military on a large scale.

    Gov. Perry is fair but the US Military can’t afford the lawsuits recently launched in Boston for benefits coverage of married Gay Partners and new Base accommodations in the military.

    DOD has declared the Ft.Hood massacre to be “Workplace Violence”.

    DOJ has been trying to force terrorist trials into civil courts.

    2000 Military Chaplains are in revolt against DOD memo about a future policy of performing same-sex ceremonies.

    Obama has used the military budget as a bargaining chip while we are engaged in two overseas conflicts.

    Perry has criticized Obama for publicly telegraphing troop withdrawal to the enemy to appease his political base while endangering troops & allies.

    As an Air Force Veteran Gov. Perry’s objections to Obama as Commander in Chief have added weight because this is not a settled issue and has the potential to become increasingly divisive in the military which affects Unit Cohesion.

    Perry has taken the heat before over SS Ponzi, AGW, Part-Time Congress. Guess we’ll see how it plays out.

    “Our party cannot be all things to all people. It can’t be. Our loudest opponents on the left are never going to like us so let’s stop trying to curry favor with them.” – Gov. Rick Perry

    workingclass artist (f2fc32)

  158. “It was President Obama who dropped the words “by their Creator” when reciting a key excerpt from the Declaration of Independence to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus – not once, but twice.

    It was the Obama administration that opposed the commemoration of a prayer by Franklin Roosevelt at the site of the World War II Memorial on the Washington Mall, arguing that it would “dilute” the memorial’s central message.

    And it was the Obama White House that asked Georgetown University to cover up all religious signs and symbols prior to a presidential address.

    The Obama administration has used our military as a social engineering petri dish – pulling gay and lesbian soldiers out of the closet while pushing Christians back inside.

    In recent days, we’ve learned that the Navy adopted and later rescinded a policy that would have banned parents from giving their wounded soldier-children Bibles at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.

    A Christian cross was removed from outside an Army chapel because it violated regulations. The Air Force Academy was forced to apologize for promoting Operation Christmas Child because it had ties to a Christian organization.

    Critics, including many lawmakers, believe the Obama administration is trying scrub Christianity from the military.

    I’m glad that Gov. Perry raised the issue of religion. It’s a topic worthy of exploring merely for the fact that a leader’s conduct and decision-making will always be influenced by what he or she believes at the core. A nation deserves to know what they can expect.

    “Bringing America back starts with faith,” Gov. Perry declared during a speech Wednesday to the Republican Jewish Coalition. “Faith in the Almighty, who created. Faith in our friends and allies, in a time of trouble, faith in each other to not give up hope.”

    The governor is absolutely correct.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/08/rick-perry-president-obama-and-war-on-christianity/#ixzz1g3IU2BJ1

    workingclass artist (f2fc32)

  159. You know, it took me a while to think of what this reminded me of. This is like when that congressman tried to say something about Beavis and Butthead, and instead it came out as Beaver and Buffcoat.

    It was painfully uncool.

    Aaron Worthing (73a7ea)

  160. EPWJ – Rove’s column in the WSJ is explicitly labeled “Opinion,” meaning it is not the opinion of the WSJ editors. Saying the WSJ reported something he wrote in one of his columns is misleading at best.

    “That could happen in part because Mr. Gingrich has little or no campaign organization in Iowa and most other states. He didn’t file a complete slate of New Hampshire delegates and alternates. He is the only candidate who didn’t qualify for the Missouri primary, and on Wednesday he failed to present enough signatures to get on the ballot in Ohio. Redistricting squabbles may lead the legislature to move the primary to a later date and re-open filing, but it’s still embarrassing to be so poorly organized.”

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  161. It’s really not that bad, although Mike Judge has redeemed himself with first ‘Office Space’ and then
    ‘King of the Hill’

    narciso (87e966)

  162. “Btw, just to burst another meme, Carhartts is not unique to fracking ‘Broke Back Mountain’ it’s very popular in a whole host of states;”

    narciso – I can attest to that. Gay people wear Carhartts clothing all over the country. Heh.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  163. Btw, just to burst another meme, Carhartts is not unique to fracking ‘Broke Back Mountain’ it’s very popular in a whole host of states;

    I just don’t get the whole premise of this thing. A character in a movie happens to wear a particular jacket; so that jacket suddenly becomes somehow connected to the movie?! How about his trousers and socks? Are they too now linked to him, and everyone who has the same ones is now somehow imitating him?! Really, what kind of mind makes these connections?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  164. I mean, how many characters in movies have worn blue jeans? So whom am I supposed to be imitating if I wear them too?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  165. It’s a notion going along in the Journolist, it makes no sense, but yet it earns currency.

    narciso (87e966)

  166. GOProud Statement on Tony Fabrizio – Pollster and Strategist for Governor Rick Perry’s Presidential Campaign

    Joint Statement of Jimmy LaSalvia, Executive Director & Christopher R. Barron, Chairman of the Board

    (Washington, D.C.) – “From the time this organization was founded we have been clear in our opposition to outing. We would never intentionally out anyone. However, in the case of Tony Fabrizio, top pollster and chief strategist for the Presidential campaign of Texas Governor Rick Perry, we did not believe there was any question about his sexual orientation – nor did the reporters who called us to ask about his involvement in Perry’s anti-gay campaign strategy. Questions about an individual’s sexual orientation should obviously be answered by that individual.

    “Let us be crystal clear, however, Tony Fabrizio is not the victim here. Tony Fabrizio has lined his pockets for years with money from gay groups and is now one of the chief architects of a campaign strategy – not just an isolated television ad – intended to demonize gay people in order to score political points. Fabrizio claims he opposed the latest anti-gay Perry television ad. If Fabrizio really does oppose the ad and the broader strategy then the honorable and decent thing to do would be to resign from the campaign. Tony Fabrizio is no junior staffer he is one of the top campaign pollsters and strategists in the country.

    “It is obvious that the campaign of Rick Perry is desperate, and in a desperate last ditch effort to become relevant in the GOP Presidential race he and his campaign have decided to employ a strategy that plays to the cheap seats and appeals to the worst in people. Rick Perry should be embarrassed and the people around him who are the architects of this strategy, particularly people like Tony Fabrizio, should be ashamed.”

    Colonel Haiku (687f10)


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