Obama Tanking Historically
[Posted by Karl]
“Unprecedented,” just the way The One likes it! Paul Bedard (via JWF) and Conn Carroll mine the depths of Pres. Obama’s job approval numbers at Gallup. First, Bedard:
President Obama’s slow ride down Gallup’s daily presidential job approval index has finally passed below Jimmy Carter, earning Obama the worst job approval rating of any president at this stage of his term in modern political history.
Since March, Obama’s job approval rating has hovered above Carter’s, considered among the 20th century’s worst presidents, but today Obama’s punctured Carter’s dismal job approval line. On their comparison chart, Gallup put Obama’s job approval rating at 43 percent compared to Carter’s 51 percent.
Indeed, that 43% edges out the postwar record low 44% Lyndon B. Johnson had at this point in his full term… before deciding against standing for re-election. Carroll notes the biggest drop this year has been among pure independents and moderate/liberal Republicans — the two demos Obama needs most to eke out a second term.
Obama really needs an approval rating closer to 48% to stand a chance. There’s plenty of time for him to get there. But attacking the eventual GOP nominee or a do-nothing Congress likely won’t do it for him. Absent unforeseen circumstances, he has to hope the economy recovers more than current forecasts suggest, or that voters suddenly decide that the current malaise is the new normal.
Update: Ace notes that Carter was technically lower earlier and perked up to 51% at this point due to the Iranian hostage crisis… but we all know well that played out for Jimmah.
–Karl
To use The Media’s favorite adjective, Obama’s nosedive is ‘unexpected’.
Jones (8e2c79) — 11/29/2011 @ 4:48 pmand Bill Ayers thought, such “an ambitious young man”.
The Audacity of EPIC FAIL.
Colonel Haiku (89a861) — 11/29/2011 @ 5:02 pmand you heard it first from the colonel at 11:58AM? (I think)
Colonel Haiku (89a861) — 11/29/2011 @ 5:18 pmAnd this die was cast by 110 days. GM modified TARP, Banks forced to take money, AIG with them, the Stimulus etc., $200 Billion Fannie and Freddie slush fund, all guaranteed stagflation.
In 1980 until the final weeks of October, Carter led Reagan significantly in polls for two reasons. 1.) Pollsters abandon shaping public thinking to earn their keep and do their affiliation polling. 2.) The electorate hasn’t actually tallied an accounting of the incumbent and the challenger.
Worries about Obama being a formidable opponent are grossly overblown and for self-serving reasons on the part of party aparatchiks.
gulrud (d88477) — 11/29/2011 @ 5:20 pmThis is the most racist post I have ever seen.
JD (3d0bb5) — 11/29/2011 @ 5:22 pmO/T, both something for the Colonel:
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2011/11/29/new-york-city-to-promote-traffic-and-pedestrian-safetythrough-haiku/
Simon Jester (bf8c3e) — 11/29/2011 @ 5:23 pmcarnegie deli
Colonel Haiku (89a861) — 11/29/2011 @ 5:27 pmhave a great taste of New York
better than fender
You guys, I just have to shout
The Limerick Michelle (f68855) — 11/29/2011 @ 5:34 pmDon’t you count my hubby out!
Though he is down
‘Cause his skin is brown
The non-racists will come about!
Inconceivable!
Kevin M (563f77) — 11/29/2011 @ 5:37 pmAll I can say is he should never have been elected in the first place.
Since that did indeed happen, any further predictions from me will come after the fact, like after the next president actually takes office, even.
I’m concerned that some of the voters who should have known better but voted for him the first time for a plethora of liberal cliche reasons will be unable to turn down the opportunity to repeat their vote.
You may call me illogical, but who is more illogical; me or the people who voted in a non-experienced nobody who could only vote “Present” unless it was to defend infanticide who counted among his best friends domestic terrorists and Communist Party leaders???
Thought so.
MD in Philly (a4b47f) — 11/29/2011 @ 5:52 pmBarry and all his gov’t hack buddies don’t know that “If you do your job you get to keep it”. This is a foreign concept in the public sector.
glenn (877ee1) — 11/29/2011 @ 6:16 pmThis is actually fairly amusing. There’s no news here.
Obama’s numbers have stayed at roughly 43 approve / 49 disapprove for months. They haven’t changed recently.
This ‘news’ is an artifact of the fact that Carter’s numbers jumped unexpectedly in late November of 1979.
This can be seen by going to http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx and comparing Carter and Obama.
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The other thing that’s fairly amusing about this is that it isn’t even the first time in Obama’s presidency that his approval ratings have been lower than Carter’s were at a similar point in his presidency.
aphrael (807c84) — 11/29/2011 @ 6:47 pmObama has been in the 43-45% range for a long time. He is not tanking. He hasn’t lost the nonwhite vote and white liberals, along with near unanimous MSM support.
DN (d1a4f3) — 11/29/2011 @ 6:51 pmHa
If only the GOP had someone capable of taking advantage of this situation.
I feel your pain.
Spartacvs (da2b4e) — 11/29/2011 @ 7:30 pmNever for one moment think that there aren’t enough stupid people who can be convinced to re-elect this narcissistic ne’er-do-well. There are and they will be driven to registration and the polls to make it happen.
Colonel Haiku (89a861) — 11/29/2011 @ 7:34 pmThe other thing that’s fairly amusing about this is that it isn’t even the first time in Obama’s presidency that his approval ratings have been lower than Carter’s were at a similar point in his presidency.
Comment by aphrael
But it’s even closer to Election Day now. And I suspect that’s not amusing to a lot of people.
Karl (4b361c) — 11/29/2011 @ 7:35 pmIt will take a unified party to defeat this rightful one-termer. The question we must ask ourselves is: Is it critical to the survival of this nation that we rid ourselves of liberal Democrats and the Main Preener?
I know it is and I pray the majority of voters have the same opinion.
Colonel Haiku (89a861) — 11/29/2011 @ 7:39 pmSome non-liberal people have stood up for Carter’s domestic record saying he doesn’t get enough credit for that. He actually did some good things domestically but they were overshadowed by his spectacularly incompetent foreign policy. Of course his judicial appointments have been as awful as any Democrat.
Gerald A (9d78e8) — 11/29/2011 @ 7:40 pmSpurty is all hot and bothered again. How cute.
JD (318f81) — 11/29/2011 @ 7:46 pmWell he did start the deregulation path, under Alfred Kahn, on the other hand, he also instituted
narciso (87e966) — 11/29/2011 @ 7:57 pmthe first CRA rules, created the Departments of energy and education, so it’s at best a wash.
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the worst job approval rating of any president at this stage
It will be interesting if a look-back at the history of this country decades into the future records 2008 as the moment when America jumped the shark.
I know Bill Clinton has pretty much made a permanent mockery of the idea that the White House (and/or presidency) is supposed to be a dignified, honorable thing, and Obama (aka “Goddamn America”) may forever symbolize the turning point when this society got trapped on a pathway leading to it becoming a perennial Banana Republic—a variation of an Argentina, with a bit of Mexico, sprinkled in with some Greece, Venezuela, France and Brazil. IOW — as the phrase goes — you can never go home again.
Mark (411533) — 11/29/2011 @ 8:09 pmHa if only my mom stopped abusing me
I hope you feel my pain.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/29/2011 @ 8:19 pmDon’t forget there are months before the next election. The Obots and demi-Obots, who voted for his race and the thrill of voting for their own desire for hope and change, may just be indulging a safe moment of disappointment.
Let the boundaries harden and these babies will be back in the playpen ready to vote for The One again in November.
Haven’t heard from Oprah, the Obot who burned her career for The One. Wonder when, if, she will come around to be abused again by BO and Spouse?
Yeah, well (446b25) — 11/29/2011 @ 8:37 pmhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/07/oprah-wont-publicly-suppo_n_846235.html
Ooops! Found my answer. Now, is she privately funding him with her $ — or is she privately NOT funding him with her $?
Yeah, well (446b25) — 11/29/2011 @ 8:41 pm“The other thing that’s fairly amusing about this is that it isn’t even the first time in Obama’s presidency that his approval ratings have been lower than Carter’s were at a similar point in his presidency.”
aphrael – I’m not sure I would be bragging about that.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 11/29/2011 @ 8:52 pmI’m not bragging about it; i’m expressing puzzlement at this “news” “story”. The language “has finally passed below Jimmy Carter” is misleading in two completely different ways.
aphrael (807c84) — 11/30/2011 @ 3:26 amIn 2008 I did not know enough about Obama to vote for him. Now for 2012 I know too much about Obama to vote for him.
Dennis D (55ba3e) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:08 amObama’s numbers are low
The Limerick Avenger (3e4784) — 11/30/2011 @ 6:07 amHow far down can they go?
The empty suit
Is reaping the fruit
Of picking a veep we call Joe
I can’t believe all that you’ve said
The Limerick Avenger (3e4784) — 11/30/2011 @ 6:09 amOf the state he is still our head
There is still hope
For the big dope
His chances are still not quite dead.
I had such great Hope
The Haiku Avenger (3e4784) — 11/30/2011 @ 6:12 amWhen Barack became Teh Won
Now I Hope for Change.
Can we send Barack
The Haiku Avenger (3e4784) — 11/30/2011 @ 6:14 amTo Terra Nova to get
Et by dinosaur?
Can we send Michelle
The Haiku Avenger (3e4784) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:13 amTo Terra Nova to get
Et by dinosaur?
Damn it guys shut it, hell spook and we’ll end up with the Hildabeast……
Thomas F (229e15) — 11/30/2011 @ 9:56 am23. “Don’t forget there are months before the next election.”
Yes and the news will be uniformly bad.
Solyndra and many billions in laundered contributions. Holder, the gift giver.
Arab nuclear winter.
Europe-that new IMF liquidity boon raising the Market this AM will mean 30-60 billion each for Spain and Italy.
Do not step outside in Shanghai, the bags of cytoplasm are hitting the pavement at terminal velocity.
gulrud (d88477) — 11/30/2011 @ 10:52 amVia zerohedge Nor Laup on Helicopter Bennie’s latest trillions in printed money to end liquidity crisis will mean hyperinflation.
Italy is paying over 5% on 3-month notes with 2 Trillion in public debt. Japanese and German debt have started to rise in cost.
gulrud (d88477) — 11/30/2011 @ 11:01 am“I’m not bragging about it; i’m expressing puzzlement at this “news” “story”.”
aphrael – I don’t know how to append emoticons to my comments. Otherwise I would have attached a smiley face.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 11/30/2011 @ 11:04 amAgain via zerohedge:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/did-fed-just-buy-europe-week
The coordinated central bankers’ move may have caused orgasms on equity trader’s floors it has gained banks about a week in their rising costs of borrowing and affected sovereigns’ costs not at all.
gulrud (d88477) — 11/30/2011 @ 11:16 amBarack Obama didn’t want to rescue to Euro and he still doesn’t want to do it. He kept on having Secretary of the Treasury Timothy F. Geithner tell European governments over and over again that this is Europe’s responsibility and the resources exist in Europe to solve this.
He tried to avoid this just like he did with Libya, Iran, and other circumstances where it is basically just the United States doing something.
He’s learning that there are certain things only the United States can, or will do.
If not for the United States of America, the world would go, as the expression goes, to hell in a handbasket – would have gone to hell in a handbasket already several times in the last one hundred years.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 11/30/2011 @ 11:53 amComment by gulrud — 11/29/2011 @ 5:20 pm
In 1980 until the final weeks of October, Carter led Reagan significantly in polls for two reasons. 1.) Pollsters abandon shaping public thinking to earn their keep and do their affiliation polling. 2.) The electorate hasn’t actually tallied an accounting of the incumbent and the challenger.
No. The reason was that Reagan hadn’t yet overcome his reputation as being too extreme right –> = unacceptable.
But then enough people took another look at him, and said, “You know…”
Something mildly similar is happening right now with Newt Gingrich in the Republican nomination race.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 11/30/2011 @ 11:57 amWorries about Obama being a formidable opponent are grossly overblown and for self-serving reasons on the part of party aparatchiks.
Comment by aphrael — 11/29/2011 @ 6:47 pm
This ‘news’ is an artifact of the fact that Carter’s numbers jumped unexpectedly in late November of 1979.
What happened in November 1979? The U.S. Embassy in Iran was overrun for the second time (the foirst time was in February – there was a stiory featuriung it in the September 1979 Reader’s Digest) and many hostages were taken
If that is the case, then everything he gained he lost more by April. Every week Carter was expecting the hostages to be released.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 11/30/2011 @ 12:02 pmSammy – I don’t remember 1979, so it’s hard for me to comment. However, if you go to gallup’s site and you look at their tracking history for Carter, there was a jump at the end of November 1979 which lasted until mid-spring.
My point is that Obama is currently ‘below’ Carter’s numbers because of that bump in Carter’s numbers, and that Obama’s numbers haven’t changed appreciably in months.
So it’s really, really difficult for me to see a ‘trend’ there, or a change really, other than Obama hasn’t had the bad international events which Carter did to cause the public to (temporarily) rally around him.
aphrael (5d993c) — 11/30/2011 @ 12:20 pmOf course, the turning point was probably Desert One’s failure, which parodoxically led to the modern Special Forces as we know it.
King’s latest dystopia, re the Kennedy assasination, has through a series of circumstances, Reagan being President in 1979, and his response to the Hostage Crisis, leading to the creation of the Base this by the way, he cribbed from the much better ‘Replay’ where
narciso (87e966) — 11/30/2011 @ 12:21 pmthe assasination of Quadaffi sometime in the 70s, lead to a similar terrorist group called the
November Group.
There wouldn’t have been any hostages or any Khomeini regime, had Jimmy Carter not sent Alewxander Haig to Iran to lobby the Iranbain generals against a coup.
As a result, at the first sign of renewed street protest, they turned the country over to Khomeini on Februiary 12, 1979. As a reward, Khomieni later had them executed.
This is not a mistake the Egyptian generals are going to make this a year, no matter how much Prince Bandar, or whoever, is trying to convince Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu http://www.onislam.net/english/news/middle-east/454793-israel-fears-islamist-rise.html and everybody else that the Islamists will come out ahead. (This fear is quite real and it has to be cominmg from his intelligenec agency and othr foreign policy experts and surely some Arabs countruies are trying to incluenece perceptions
Actually they had a very peaceful first election on November 28.
The Islamists are quick to say how much they won, but I don’t think it will turn out that way.
A lot of people in Egypt GPT THE MESSAGE. Months ago.
They know the history of the French Revolution and others.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 11/30/2011 @ 1:05 pmComment by aphrael — 11/30/2011 @ 12:20 pm
Sammy – I don’t remember 1979, so it’s hard for me to comment.
I don’t remember anything abouyt Carter’s numbers going up, but you’d really have to be – I don’t know what – to know they did.
However, if you go to gallup’s site and you look at their tracking history for Carter, there was a jump at the end of November 1979 which lasted until mid-spring.
What makes sense is that it was the hostage crisis, and also the fading away of the malaise and otyehr economic issues – By mid-spring the prime interest rate had hit 20%, it was clear teh economy was bad and I guess it began to be clear Carter was at fault, since he wasn’t complaining about it.
My point is that Obama is currently ‘below’ Carter’s numbers because of that bump in Carter’s numbers, and that Obama’s numbers haven’t changed appreciably in months.
That’s another thing. When you compare one president’s ratings to another at the same point in his term, well, there could have been some factors going on with the other president you’re comoparing the current president to!
So it’s really, really difficult for me to see a ‘trend’ there, or a change really, other than Obama hasn’t had the bad international events which Carter did to cause the public to (temporarily) rally around him.
Soon, soon, maybe.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 11/30/2011 @ 1:10 pmObama will be reelected.
Likely with 63% of the popular vote and every electoral vote.
Because every GOP contender is just another Ray “Spanky the Clown” Wardingley, a Chicago institution put in place to guarantee the Daley machine got 85% of the vote.
Get serious, people. Just which one of these Republicans will energize 53 million voters? I will vote for Romney, while holding my nose, but I will be one of less than 30 million. Newt, Perry and Cain are narcissistic jokes wasting donors’ money, and the more they are out there the more voters will see them for what they are.
Carter was beaten by Reagan. Reagan. Reagan, Ronald Wilson. Anybody see any Reagans in the GOP lineup?
And let’s put it to the Patterico test. I bet that fewer than 15 commenters will flame me for this comment.
nk (cd8f6b) — 11/30/2011 @ 1:30 pmYour wrong.
And by the way dig this the United Kingdom is roting over austerity measures.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 1:37 pmI agree with the basic Premise, Nk, but the peercentage you predict and the electoral votes are laughable.
JD (0e41ea) — 11/30/2011 @ 1:40 pmEven St Ronald
The Haiku Avenger (3e4784) — 11/30/2011 @ 1:46 pmDidn’t hit nk’s numbers
O? No way in Hell!
rioting*
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 1:54 pmGeneral Huyser, Sammy, but your argument is otherwise on point. Although the new Egyptian prime minister is not unlike Bakhtiar
narciso (87e966) — 11/30/2011 @ 2:53 pmWhy do people give Genghis Khan Hunstman a hard time?
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 3:05 pmnk,
Carter was clobbered by Reagan. (Anderson may have helped a bit in the size of the electoral win.)
I was young at the time and still on the other side of things…going to college in Boston, and a Carter backer (18 yrs old). I regret it, but no apologies.
We didn’t see Reagan as some giant then. We saw him as the fool that the MSM made him out to be. Dumb, lazy, B-movie star, not even a very good actor. That’s what they told us he was. Yes, Reagan swept 44 states….but Carter still got 35.5 million votes. People, like me, and, frankly virtually every person I knew in the world at the time, who voted for Carter. Plenty of those people still think of Reagan that way…and there are more of them now, I fear.
So while we may not see a Reagan yet…and there may not be one, there may be more than what we see in some of these guys.
koam @wittier (3156c4) — 11/30/2011 @ 3:43 pmI feel your pain nk.
Truth is, Ronaldus Maximus himself would be down in the weeds with Huntsman given the reactionary state of todays GOP base. The country has moved on, but amongst GOPers the collective memory of the Reagan years gets rosier and rosier with each telling, while straying ever further from the reality.
Spartacvs (da2b4e) — 11/30/2011 @ 3:58 pmSparticles and his ad hom flea circus. Roll up for the revisionist history tour!
Icy (4c3508) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:07 pmObama will be reelected.
Likely with 63% of the popular vote and every electoral vote.
— You, sir, are kite as a high.
Icy (4c3508) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:12 pmWe criticize Obama because we are racist say the useful idiots even as he is signing their death warrant.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:14 pmSpurty want four more years of the dope and fail.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:18 pmThese damned Democrats railed against GWB’s War on Terror prosecution and yet there’s nary a peep from them as Big Zero launches predator drone strikes and kills terrorist suspects on a daily basis. He even kills American citizen Awlaki. I wonder whether Awlaki would prefer a waterboard bath over a drone up his ass, if given a choice? The Dims are more than happy to let the top 1% pay for the bottom 55%, but it ain’t enough.
They are happy to let convicted felon George Soros fund their destructive agenda, but not so happy when the Koch Bros. take a principled stand for conservatives.
No way around it… bottom line? Liberals suck and they suck hard.
ColonelHaiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:18 pmSomeone mentioned the Iranian Hostage Crisis.
Mad Michelle on the recent goings on at the British Embassy in Tehran, quote:
“If I were President I would close the US Embassy”
I sh!t you not.
Spartacvs (9d9e55) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:21 pmOh, I am pretty sure that Spartcvs knows all about sh!tting people.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:21 pmbarry malazy
ColonelHaiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:23 pmarrogant preening master
what is he paid for?
Spurty is all hot and bothered and douchey. Again.
JD (0e41ea) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:24 pmMoochelle… barry’s belle
ColonelHaiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:25 pmthese are words that make me want to puke
doh biden sits on a cuke
Spartacvs on the recent goings on at the british embassy on Tehran.
Well if we left them alone and went after the real threat AKA Israel they would stop.
I sh&t you not.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:26 pmspurty bobbin’ for
ColonelHaiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:27 pmknobs or anything he can
sink his toof into
Sportypoo is a tool.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:29 pmHe is Obamas fool.
Lets make him have painful stool.
Huntsman…
http://youtu.be/X1MJdiwcb4Y
ColonelHaiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:31 pmIn fairness to Spurty it must be embarrassing as hell to have been so invested in Barry in 2007-08 and then have him turn out to be such a huge miserable failure in front of the whole world. Right, Spartacvs? How are your coping mechanisms holding up, there buddy? Have you scraped off your Obama ’08 bumper sticker yet like so many people have in order to save face?
elissa (fa047c) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:35 pmThat is the mating call for James Bond Huntsman.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:40 pmBarry and Axe stay
elissa (fa047c) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:43 pmup all night trying to find
electoral votes
Barry is a malevolent man-child.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:46 pmSpurt Circus (I know this is hard to believe) fails again:
According to reports, Bachmann applauded the U.K.’s move, adding, “That’s exactly what I would do [if I were president]. We wouldn’t have an embassy in Iran. I wouldn’t allow that to be there.”
Now — pay, I say, pay attention here, boy — if you have PROOF that what she actually said was: “If I were President I would close the US Embassy,” then bring it! Otherwise, feel free to join the STFU chorus.
Because, since there actually IS a US Embassy in Tehran — closed though it is — the worst thing Bachmann is guilty of is committing to keep it closed. Oh, horror of horrors!
Icy (4c3508) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:48 pmSpartacvs is a man-child.
He makes Julius Huntsman look saintly.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:50 pmspvrty flees the scene
ColonelHaiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:53 pmscalded dog, tail between legs
moans of blue-tick hound
Spurty is an ass
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:56 pmMichelle Obama has huge mass
Obama is crass
shapeshifting, flea-bit
ColonelHaiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:56 pmimmune to Hartz Mountain cure
the m00nbat takes flight
oh, rabid m00nbat
ColonelHaiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 4:58 pmtake wing back to fever swamp
and lick rancid wounds
Moochele Obamas wide stance[IOW her ass] Is more of a scandal than anything Cain supposedly did.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 5:00 pmIcy: Exact quote,
We don’t have an Embassy in Iran.
There’s a building in Tehran that used to be the US Embassy, but there is no US Embassy in Iran, hasn’t been since the late 70’s.
Simple enough.
Spartacvs (da2b4e) — 11/30/2011 @ 6:18 pmI love it when leftists like Spurtesticles have to make things up to try to smear people. Next thing you know, she will not know the difference between England and the UK.
JD (318f81) — 11/30/2011 @ 6:24 pmDepends what time period you are talking about JD.
For much of the 19th Century they were indeed synonymous.
What did I make up?
Spartacvs (da2b4e) — 11/30/2011 @ 6:31 pmThe smartest President EVAH screwed up and called It the English Embassy, and then screwed it up more, calling it the Embassy of the UK. But spur testicles is worried about a semantic game played with Bachman’s words. You be clown yourself every time, spurty.
JD (318f81) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:02 pm😆 😆 😆 😯 😯 😯
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:03 pmWhat did I make up?Where am I?Comment by Spartacvs
now thank me for the post.
ColonelHaiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:05 pmThat’s right, Sparticles. No embassy in a hate-filled terrorism-sponsoring state.
You can bleat all you want about how this is some huge “gaffe”, but you won’t get very far.
Icy (4c3508) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:12 pmBTW, have you found a link for that “If I were President I would close the US Embassy” quote? OR, did she not actually say that, and you’re just an effing liar? Again.
Hello? Sparticles?
Icy (4c3508) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:16 pmApparently ABC News can’t read a simple transcript, or their imaginary voices get in the way;
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/us-embassy-in-iran-michele-bachmanns-oops-moment/
narciso (87e966) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:25 pmObama can’t run on his record, as there is nothing but failure to be found there. So, he and his flunkies will wage the most negative campaign we’ll probably see in our lifetimes. The Republican nominee and the campaign will have to stay focused and on message: This is what Obama has done, this is what he has failed to do and this is what I will do to improve our situation if elected.
His failed policies, willful inability to correct course and utter disregard for the truth will be his undoing.
Colonel Haiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:26 pmWe don’t have an Embassy in Iran, JD.
Parse it how you like. But given the history between the two countries, saying
when we don’t have an Embassy in Iran is exceptionally dim. Even for someone of Michele’s proven track record of repeated dimness.
Spartacvs (da2b4e) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:27 pmFrankly I don’t think the Cairo embassy will be such a safe bet, or in Tripoli, where they flew
narciso (87e966) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:28 pmthe AQ flag not that long ago,
narciso… they disregard what doesn’t fit their narrative. It’s an old, tired method.
Colonel Haiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:28 pmBarry O thinks that he’ll win
The Limerick Avenger (f68855) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:29 pm‘Twould be easier with cash and gin
Handed around
All over town
Like the Dems always did to get in
spvrty takes the willful denseness up a couple of notches. Popcorn, anyone?
Colonel Haiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:30 pmOnly racists would not vote for O!
The Limerick Avenger (f68855) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:31 pmThough he’s cost most of us dough.
This isn’t Hell
He really means well
Only racists want him to go!
Yes, I believe they call it dowdification, although
narciso (87e966) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:32 pmCharlie Gibson, was fairly apt at this practice.
Of course, Obama actually said during the campaign, ‘Iran is such a small country’ no need to be really
narciso (87e966) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:35 pmconcerned with it,
Barack brought us change and hope
The Limerick Avenger (f68855) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:36 pmThough the Repubs tried to say, “Nope!”
But “Alas!” we now say
Didn’t work out the way
That was planned by the big dope!
cash and gin
Colonel Haiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:36 pmto go for the win
the dimocrat drinkers
were never clear thinkers
up, Lazarus climbs
to vote several times
with Joe Biden’s thumb
up Hillary’s ass
Obama ain’t dumb
but the man has no class
That last one will be the hardest. Because advocating ever more tax cuts for the ‘job creators’ simply isn’t going to resonate with the larger electorate.
Spartacvs (da2b4e) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:38 pmIt’s almost as if there is a double standard,
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/08/from-the-fact-c-10/
narciso (87e966) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:38 pmSpvrty, weak-suck Obama has the biggest challenge. With that record and his penchant for pointing the finger of blame everywhere but where it belongs, he should hang his head in shame and bow out, to make room for the next liberal Keynesian Klown.
But, narcissist that he is, he doesn’t embarrass easy.
Colonel Haiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:43 pmnarciso:
I’m at a loss as to what point you think you are making. If I were you, which thankfully I’m not, I’d stop digging. Just a helpful suggestion.
Spartacvs (da2b4e) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:44 pmBeating the Mormon or not-Romney?
Not much of a challenge really, is it?
I feel your pain Colonel. Well, not really. laughing my a$$ off to be honest.
Spartacvs (da2b4e) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:47 pmIt’s ironic, in light of the armed faction of the Iranian government, that is apparently tied to the plot against Ambassador Jubeir, not to mention, Beirut, Buenos Aires, Vienna, Berlin,
narciso (87e966) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:48 pmStop digging says Spartacvs.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:52 pmI guess if you add words she didn’t say, it makes it an odd statement. If you read it in the context of the English Embassy, or the Embassy of the United Kingdom being attacked, not so much. Spurtitesticles never fails to out-idiot himself.
JD (0e41ea) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:53 pmWe don’t have an Embassy in Iran, JD.
Parse away.
Spartacvs (da2b4e) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:59 pmSpvrty? I’m afraid Adam Carolla has your number:
http://youtu.be/cJD8pZiRIzs
Colonel Haiku (d838e0) — 11/30/2011 @ 7:59 pmWe don’t need to worry about Iran. It is so small. And Hawaii, one of the 57 States, is in Asia. Stand up!
JD (0e41ea) — 11/30/2011 @ 8:02 pmSpartacvs deserves to have a heart attack.
Leftys who have hired help are failures.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 8:02 pmFinally the OWS said something that makes sense.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 8:06 pmNot to mention in the Cuba example, we have had negotiations in 1974-1975, 1981-82, 1994, well you get the idea.
narciso (87e966) — 11/30/2011 @ 8:08 pmMccain mocks Arizona all the time Schumerpie.
Dohbiden (ef98f0) — 11/30/2011 @ 8:15 pmWhat is so friggin’ hard to understand, Sparticles? She won’t allow an embassy in Iran.
Well, hell! There goes Barack’s post-POTUS plum bow-to-our-enemies position. No wonder you’re so upset!
Icy (4c3508) — 11/30/2011 @ 8:37 pmTwo polls now have Newtie above 40% in FL, the latest PPP at 47% Cain 15%. More support from the over 65 crowd than the next four combined.
I know this is Newt I’m talking about, but I think it could be over. Close 2nd in NH and sweeps the rest in Jan. NV has more codgers than Mormons.
gulrud (d88477) — 11/30/2011 @ 8:39 pmTingles and Morning Joe have turned on Urkel. The left is getting pissed. Less than 300 turned out for an OH campaign stop.
Bet the locks get changed at the WH and nobody knows nothing.
gulrud (d88477) — 11/30/2011 @ 8:51 pmNewt had what I thought was a pretty good interview on Hannity tonight. Anybody else see it?
His stated plan to sign an order to nuke all the czars before Barry’s plane even lands back in Chicago on inauguration day has a nice ring to it.
elissa (fa047c) — 11/30/2011 @ 9:00 pm___________________________________________
Spurty want four more years of the dope and fail.
My personal politics and preferences aside, if I truly hated the US, I would want it to be as leftwing as possible. I look at the long history of Argentina, or Venezuela today, or at the socio-economic dynamics of urban areas like Detroit or Oakland, and if one wishes ill on such places, then one should favor their being managed by screwball, screwed-up liberals. So with a diabolical snicker, I’d say “lovely leftism is just what the doctor ordered.” (Of course, I wouldn’t reveal whether I was referring to, say, Michael Jackson’s doc.)
Some California politicians (including I believe Governor Jerry “retread-Moonbeam” Brown) visited Texas not long ago to get ideas on how to turn around America’s version of Greece/Mexico/Venezuela/Argentina/France (aka California). If I were a Texan or diabolical East Coaster trying to keep the playing field among the 50 states as one-sided as possible, I’d tell the folks from California: “Please practice liberalism to your heart’s content! That’s the answer to all your problems!! That’s the winning ticket!”
Mark (411533) — 11/30/2011 @ 9:03 pmIcy: not only that, sh also will close down the one we don’t have. Like I said, dim.
gulrud: if Newt wins the nomination then yes, it’s over and we can all look forward to a 2nd term for Barak Obama.
elissa: quelel surprise, the not-Romney candidate gets a sympathetic interview on Hannity. Fox is great entertainment, hard hitting unbiased political news & commentary – not so much.
Spartacvs (da2b4e) — 12/1/2011 @ 5:52 amSpurtytesticles is nothing if not consistent. Consistently stupid. Consistently parroting leftist talking points.
JD (a2078a) — 12/1/2011 @ 6:27 am119. “we can all look forward to a 2nd term for Barak Obama”
Not a chance. Ibn Dunham will get low 100s in the Electoral College.
gary gulrud (d88477) — 12/1/2011 @ 3:47 pmThe missive has been dispatched: Gingrich as Nominee means the TEA Party has failed.
To an extent I can accept the charge. Despite her being the third best debater behind G & R no one can visualize Michele in the office.
We came up out of the money. But we are getting lip service, voice to our concerns, we are going to run bin Davis out on a rail and impoverish him with litigation.
Burn in hell buggered without ceasing.
gary gulrud (d88477) — 12/2/2011 @ 1:16 amif Newt wins the nomination then yes, it’s over and we can all look forward to a 2nd term for Barak Obama.
— Actually, Sparticles, pretty much none of us are looking forward to that possibility.
But at least “we” know how to spell your hero’s name.
Icy (3493f7) — 12/2/2011 @ 2:59 amtest
peedoffamerican (ee1de0) — 12/2/2011 @ 3:33 pm.
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Can’t spvrty even spell Obama’s first name correctly? He’s that much of a sad sack?
Colonel Haiku (d838e0) — 12/2/2011 @ 3:44 pmlol… you’re a pisser, peed!
Colonel Haiku (d838e0) — 12/2/2011 @ 3:46 pm