How about a new thread about Herman Cain’s alleged sexually inappropriate conduct? (Updated x3)
[Posted by Karl]
One of Cain’s accusers goes public:
A fourth woman said Monday that presidential candidate Herman Cain engaged in sexually inappropriate behavior with her more than decade ago, though Cain was not her supervisor at the time.
Sharon Bialek, the first woman to publicly accuse Cain of inappropriate behavior, said Cain was “sexually inappropriate” with her in 1997, saying he put his hand under her skirt and pushed her head toward his crotch after a dinner together. She said he backed away after she asked him to stop.
The best part of it for Cain is that Bialek’s lawyer is Gloria Allred, who did her best to make the press conference a media circus. However, as Ed Morrissey notes:
Despite Allred’s stupid comment about calling the incident Cain’s “idea of a stimulus package,” the fact that someone is willing to go on record and give specifics on a charge will make this seem a lot more credible than last week’s vague reporting from Politico. Making that more difficult is the statement from Bialek and Allred that the purported victim is a Tea Party Republican, which might indicate less of a credibility issue than otherwise.
At this early stage, I would not bet the farm that Bialek is a Tea Partier. On the other hand, I am seeing a fair amount of knee-jerk denialism from some conservatives on Twitter. If Team Cain had not botched their response to this issue at virtually every turn, it might have been easier to dismiss.
Update: Maybe the real upside for Cain is that this story will distract from Cain’s apparent ignorance on entitlement reform.
Update 2: The NYT, of course:
In an interview after Ms. Bialek’s news conference, Joel P. Bennett, a lawyer for one of Mr. Cain’s anonymous accusers, said that Ms. Bialek’s claims were “very similar” in nature to the incident that occurred between his client and Mr. Cain.
Of course.
Update 3: Folks on the Twitter were flipping over the fact that Bialek is being sued By Illinois Lending and the lender is represented by David J. Axelrod & Associates. Wrong Axelrod (Obama’s is David M).* But it might suggest a financial motive of some sort.
*Original post linked to attorney David A. Axelrod. Thanks to Simon Templar for the correction.
–Karl
Ding!
Karl (f07e38) — 11/7/2011 @ 11:45 amCain has one advantage. He isn’t nominated yet. There’s plenty of time for this to pass. I never considered him as viable, but he is definitely more interesting than Romney and Perry. The accuser in the press conference said he was charismatic. Certainly, the more exciting you are, the more stuff will come out. He may yet get a pass.
MyOpinion (259251) — 11/7/2011 @ 11:55 amMy question: if Bialek’s back-brief of the situation to her bff and boyfriend are so vital to the “case”, and if Allred is relying so heavily on their depositions to bolster Bialek’s assertions… why were copies of the depositions the ONE thing Allred didn’t offer up to the press?
Could it possibly be because Bialek, in her statement, mentioned she did not tell either her bff or her boyfriend what had happened — only that she was ‘upset’ (or something to that effect) — and therefore those depositions can honestly only say “she was upset”?
All “the record” could honestly show would be a CEO upgrading a hotel room for someone (no biggie – people do it with status points all the time), a drink in a business bar, and a dinner. Beyond that is hearsay. Just like everything else that has been thrown around the past week or so.
Good Lord this is getting tiresome. Someone give me a scandal with teeth! /sarc
asta (2d6cb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:00 pmI can’t decide between ironic James Carville quotes, puns about Bill Clinton’s ex chief of staff or the name of Gary Hart’s boat. I’ll just keep working here and wait for happyfeet to weigh in.
carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:01 pmMy guess is she told her boyfriend and her family and probably other friends at the time it happened 14 years ago.
No wonder his wife has been having such a hard time. They probably knew what was coming.
Politico is a legitimate news organization and wouldn’t have written such a story if it didn’t past legal muster.
Anita Busch (a025dd) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:15 pmI am more impressed with Kimmy’s distress and its comparative gravity.
gary gulrud (d88477) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:18 pm“Fe-fe, fi-fi, fo-fo, fum
We smell smoke in the aud-it-orium
Charlie Brown, Charlie Brown
He’s a clown, that Charlie Brown
He’s gonna get caught
Just you wait and see
(Why’s everybody always pickin’ on me)”
– The Coasters, 1959
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:21 pmInteresting to quote music from when you were two or three years old. But then, you were born that way, like Lady Gaga.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:25 pmIMP is a clown.
Politico is to legitimate journalism as the Cubs are to good baseball, Anita.
JD (207300) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:35 pmCue “serial groper” in 3…2…1…
carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:35 pmbig fat lie … coordinated stories … not telling boyfriend any details … big fat lie … just another Anita Hill
JeffC (488234) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:35 pmAllred seems to be creating a new little niche for herself.
JD (207300) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:40 pmBut wait, it gets better! BFF is apparently Axelrod:
Good ‘ol LexisNexis
asta (2d6cb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:40 pm(sorry – I’m not a troll – I just haven’t been here in years and now I’ve got politics on the brain…)
asta (2d6cb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:42 pmCORRECTION:
bff (best friend forever / businessman) is not ‘apparently’ Axelrod.
Axelrod has a connection to Bialek. Axelrod is a businessman.
Correlation does not imply causation….
asta (2d6cb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:47 pmNow at last we actually have a specific accusation.
When and what circumstances was this allegation first made? (She says she told her boyfriend and one other person but did not file any complaint – there was no complaint to file since she was not working for them any more)
This is supposed to have happened…
1) in July 1997
2) After she lost her job at the educational foundation of the National Restaurant Association, which she had held less than a year from 1996 to 1997. Her superiors said the fundraising numnbers weren’t good.
3) Because she knew him from National Restaurant Association Conferences. One time, she had asked him when was he going to run for President. Cain invited her and her boyfriend to an after-party being held, which they attended.
Now months later, her boyfriend thought he would be a sympathetic ear.
4) To ask him for help or advice how to get back that job or get another.
5) They had coffee and then dinner. Boyfriend was not present. Before the dinner Cain, unknown to her, had upgraded her room at the Capitol Hilton to a suite. Would that also make it harder for her boyfriend to reach her?
At the dinner Cain asked her why she was there.
To look for a job, she said. Cain said he would show her the NRA offices and drove toward them and parked one block form offices. Then, in the car, without going inside, according to her, he basically sexually assaulted her, grabbing at her body, and she fended him off.
Cain’s campaign issued a general denial without saying what parts of was claimed might be true.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:53 pmLegal Insurrection (hat tip Rush Limbaugh show) reports on how focused Politico has become on this one story:
http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/11/politico-v-herman-cain-in-numbers/
Days as of 8 p.m. Eastern today since Politico broke the story – 7
Politico news stories about or mentioning “Herman Cain“: 138
Politico news stories about or mentioning “sexual harassment“: 91
Politico news stories about or mentioning “sexual harassment” not involving Herman Cain: 0
Politico news stories showing what Herman Cain actually did: 0
Politico news stories showing specifically what Herman Cain was accused of: 0
Percentage drop in Herman Cain favorability rating as reported by Politico: 9
Politico news stories about or mentioning “Solyndra“: 9
Politico news stories about or mentioning “Fast and Furious“: 3
Politico news stories about or mentioning “unemployment“: 17
Politico news stories about or mentioning “recession“: 14
Politico’s credibility self-destruction: Priceless
[*run as of approx. 6 p.m. 11-6-2011]
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:54 pmasta – Not even Axelrod personally. Just his law firm. That filing looks like nothing more than a debt collection.
carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:57 pmIt’s the wrong Axelrod (see update). David J, not David M.
Karl (f07e38) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:59 pmAxelrod? That’s not all that common a name. Say, didn’t an Axelrod used to work with Obama? What ever happened to that guy?
elissa (eb89c0) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:59 pmB-but there is a new scandal Herman Cian joked about his SS name being cornbread!!!!Annnnnnnnnnargheleventyone!!!
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 12:59 pmCain*
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 1:00 pmComment by asta — 11/7/2011 @ 12:40 pm
But wait, it gets better! BFF is apparently Axelrod:
Good ‘ol LexisNexis
WAIT.
What that link shows is that David Axelrod’s law form was the attorney for Plaintiff in lawsuit brought by Illinois Lending against Sharon Bialek, who did not have any lawyer(s) on record.
The filing date was 7/20/2009 and the date of service was 8/29/2010 (but the latest activity date was Activity Date: 9/22/2011) and the amount being sued for was $3539.58 and the case type was contract.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 11/7/2011 @ 1:02 pm*law firm
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 11/7/2011 @ 1:03 pm@Sammy,
When you call a hotel, you simply ask to be put through to “Jane Doe”. The room number is irrelevant. And it isn’t like the desk tells you the number. So I don’t see how it would be “harder” for her boyfriend to reach her. Especially since she wouldn’t have had her room number prior to checking in anyway…
And why didn’t Cain know why she was there? Why didn’t she handle this entire thing with a phone call? He already knew who she was – he had spent time with her and her boyfriend. It wasn’t a cold call. What could possibly be gained by going there in person?
And why was she giggling during her statement?
I find this entire thing odd.
asta (2d6cb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 1:04 pm@#5- Well said, Anita.
@#9 Politico is to legitimate journalism as the Cubs are to good baseball, Anita.
=yawn= Then it may be time to change managers at both teams. Fred Ryan is President and CEO of Politico.com. He was an assistant & post-Chief of Staff to the late Ronald Reagan for a time as well. He currently serves as the Chairman of the Board of Trustees for the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation. He’s also a vice-chairman at Allbritton Communications, which owns/finances The Politico.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 11/7/2011 @ 1:04 pm@carlitos, @Sammy –
thank you for the clarifications – I read that document backwards, apparently.
asta (2d6cb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 1:06 pmNot even the same Axelrod.
She also claims she saw Cain about a month ago at a Tea Party conference and went up to him and asked him if he remembered her ans that he said he did remember her but “looked uncomfortable,” and then was wisked away.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 11/7/2011 @ 1:07 pmDSCSA aka IMP is a clown. Serial fabulist. Underwear sniffer.
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 1:08 pmSorry, Gloria Allred makes this whole thing a joke.
Wayne (5b6e03) — 11/7/2011 @ 1:16 pm@30- Tell me about it. She’s a real barrel of laughs.
Meg Whitman (9d1bb3) — 11/7/2011 @ 1:19 pmif the Lane Bryant panties don’t fit you must acquit
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 11/7/2011 @ 1:36 pmNow that is funny
JD (207300) — 11/7/2011 @ 2:07 pmFirst they came for Herman Cain…
creeper (f1f686) — 11/7/2011 @ 2:45 pmBut in the end, Romney has his own planet to go to, so he’s safe.
asta (2d6cb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 3:07 pmYou must return to Uranus, asta… mañana, por favor.
ColonelHaiku (ad6eba) — 11/7/2011 @ 3:42 pmSay, didn’t an Axelrod used to work with Obama? What ever happened to that guy?
Doesn’t he still sing for that sh*tty band, Guns n’Roses?
ColonelHaiku (ad6eba) — 11/7/2011 @ 3:44 pmAllred’s participation in this lessens belief.
Kevin M (4eb9c8) — 11/7/2011 @ 3:45 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OyT9wP3U-Q
ColonelHaiku (ad6eba) — 11/7/2011 @ 3:46 pmand it’s one… two… three strikes you’re out at the ol’ ball game!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZIvqhAfdk4
ColonelHaiku (ad6eba) — 11/7/2011 @ 3:49 pmLouisville Slugger®
ColonelHaiku (ad6eba) — 11/7/2011 @ 3:53 pmtrain enters tunnel, butt no!
swings for the fences
==sh*tty band, Guns n’Roses==
musical tastes are
elissa (acaeff) — 11/7/2011 @ 3:54 pmsubjective but hear me now
no dissin’ of Slash
sorry but anyone who believes Gloria Allred is an POS.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 4:05 pmThe left accuses us of having a paranoid opposition to the U.N. which is rich since the left thinks the Mossad is wiretapping their pone and coming into their homes trying to rape their kids.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 4:18 pmphone*
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 4:19 pmIt isn’t about the (ahem) “ladies” – it’s about Cain’s political rivals. The setup was in place a long time ago. Perry’s and Romney’s fingerprints are all over this, and you can take THAT to the bank.
Who is behind the high-tech lynching of Herman Cain?
1389AD (844908) — 11/7/2011 @ 4:31 pmAccording to the jew hater triple he is guilty because 4 women said he is.
The same POS who defended Clinton.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 4:41 pmAnita Busch @ 5,
Politico is a legitimate news organization and wouldn’t have written such a story if it didn’t past legal muster.
While it may have passed legal muster, it did not represent a certain standard of journalistic professionalism and throughness that we should be able to expect from such an outlet. Here’s a partial back-and-forth between Jonathan Martin (Politico) and Howard Kurtz, who takes no prisoners as he grills Martin’s decision to go to print before having all the information at hand,
Howard Kurtz, CNN: “Jonathan Martin, let’s talk about the first story last Sunday, you and three colleagues reported this and what it didn’t contain in the way of details. Here’s the language from the story. Sexually suggestive behavior that made the women angry and uncomfortable, descriptions of physical gestures, not always overtly sexual, innuendo, and in one case, an unwanted sexual advance at a hotel.”
“Why publish the story then when you couldn’t answer the essential question: What precisely is Herman Cain alleged to have done to these women?”
Jonathan Martin, Politico: “Howie, I think any journalist would find the, uh — a report of two women got a fine figure, each, cash payout after alleged sexual harassment against a CEO of a trade group that is now a major contender for president, newsworthy. And that’s the story we had, and that’s what we published.”
“Now, as my editor John Harris has said, of course you want to get more detail and get more reporting, but that’s what happened this week. Obviously, we printed what we could print last Sunday and of course we had multiple sources on this, a half a dozen, actually, as we mentioned in the piece.”
“Now, as for the detail of it, we’re dealing with sensitive sources, sensitive information here and obviously we tread delicately when it came to that. As you noted, though, on the buildup to your segment, during the course of this week, Politico, my colleagues and the New York Times and others have gotten closer to this in terms of the detail of what actually happened.”
Kurtz: “You had to make a go or no go decision. I think at a lot of news organizations an editor would have said ‘you have done some terrific reporting here, you’ve got some great leads here, but you don’t have it. You can’t, you know, have a quote of what he said to any of these women, you’re obviously not able to name the women, you don’t have the details of the sexually suggestive behavior that made them angry. Go back and get more. You could have waited, there was nothing forcing you to publish this last Sunday.”
Martin: “Well, we had the fact that one of these women was brought upon by Cain in a hotel room and was made to feel very uncomfortable. We reported later this week more upon what actually happened with that episode, Howie. She was upset by that, that hours later she confronted a member of the board to complain about Cain’s treatment of her, an explicit sexual overture in a hotel room. So again –”
Kurtz: “But you can’t tell me what the overture is?”
Martin: “– with these kinds of stories, obviously the first story by not having all the information that you want, but subsequently reporting by my news organization and many others has corroborated the basic fact of this story. That’s not in question at all. Mr. Cain has offered varying responses to this story, but nobody has challenged, and in fact, the facts have been corroborated.”
[note: fished from spam filter. –Stashiu]
Dana (4eca6e) — 11/7/2011 @ 4:47 pmAce
http://minx.cc/?post=323472
oh well, look I’m sorry it turned out this way for the Cained.
And to think he tried to say this story about how his wife came up to his chin
Oh and BTW the 9 9 9 is really a 9 30 9
That right 30% vat tax in year 3
EricPWJohnson (d84fb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 4:49 pmand the lynching continues…
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 11/7/2011 @ 4:50 pmI think my comment was stuck in moderation…
Dana (4eca6e) — 11/7/2011 @ 4:53 pmEpwj simply cannot not-smear people. It is in his genes.
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:07 pmPlease kill yourself Eric.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:09 pmKim Kardashian and Kris Humphries to come forward and say Herman Cain sexually harassed them.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:10 pmDid someone just fart on aisle 48?
Icy (bd2739) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:12 pmDisco Stu spouted something racist, again?
Say it isn’t so!
Icy (bd2739) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:13 pmIcy, that was a shart.
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:13 pmin colonel’s perfect world, Gloria Allred would be run over by an ambulance and die of chromium poisoning.
ColonelHaiku (ad6eba) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:15 pmIsn’t Ace the same piece of garbage that went on a prfanity laced tirade about Palin?
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:15 pmprofanity*
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:17 pmIn my perfect world Gloria Alred and her RINO supporters would have their heads kicked in.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:18 pmReasons to doubt all of this:
1. Gutter loving Gloria Alred is her attorney.
2. What Tea Party Republican would ever be caught dead within 100 feet of Gloria Alred?
3. No police report filed for assault.
4. No proof of what the statements say.
What a joke, I can’t believe anybody would even take a second look at this. None of this is news no matter how much the media would love it to be.
[note: released from moderation. –Stashiu]
Eddy (53c325) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:25 pmhttps://w3.courtlink.lexisnexis.com/cookcounty/FindDock.asp?NCase=&SearchType=2&Database=4&case_no=&Year=&div=&caseno=&PLtype=2&sname=Sharon+Bialek&CDate
narciso (0fc95f) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:34 pmJust asking: What if the roles were reversed inside that car. What if she made a move and he said, “what are you doing”? And if she said “I need a job”? Would that make any difference? Does anybody know what happened that night except those two? He may be a serial horndog–I don’t know. But her version is the strangest “job interview” description I’ve ever heard. Well, except for in Hollywood. What was she doing there? She had only worked for the association for 6 months before she was let go. When she planned the trip from Chicago t DC what had she impled/suggested to him beforehand?
Just asking.
elissa (acaeff) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:44 pmElissa
Um sure, but another conservative blogger is asking questions
Oh BTW she is a Tea party member and a registered republican
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/07/this-so-called-story-cain-unloads-on-media-in-new-statement/comment-page-1/#comments
EricPWJohnson (d84fb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:46 pmNo, not really, on the second:
http://doctorbulldog.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/sharon-bialek-voter-registration.jpg
narciso (0fc95f) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:54 pmOr the first, other than that, she seems kosher:
http://politicalarena.org/2011/11/07/chicago-tea-party-lead-activist-on-bialek-i-did-not-recognize-her-and-i-was-there-all-weekend/
narciso (0fc95f) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:56 pmWow, imagine that? Ms. Bialik not, well, telling the truth?
Who knows what we will find out next?
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 11/7/2011 @ 5:56 pmYou cannot register as a Republican in Illinois, epwj. You are a clown.
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:00 pmAlso–the guy from Politico was on the NewsHour this evening. He stated that she had “run into” Cain recently at a “Tea Party Event”, and that she was a “registered Republican”. Illinois does not have party registration. So as a Chicagoan she cannot be a registered Republican (or a registered Democrat or a registered Independent). Voters must informally declare which ballot they want to take into the booth each primary election, but it does not stand from one election to the next. There is no permanent record, although parties can get a list by precinct of who took their ballot for that specific election cycle.) Either Martin does not know the law and has not bothered to check, or he does know the Illinois law and therefore knows perfectly well that no one can prove she is, or is not, a Republican.
[note: fished from spam filter. –Stashiu]
elissa (acaeff) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:00 pmYou can count on epwj to pimp every false meme out there against those that he hates.
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:03 pmI think I just had a comment get lost in moderation for the first time ever. I had made the same point as JD, that there is no “Registration” in Illinois and expanded on the topic a bit.
elissa (acaeff) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:06 pmC’mon, JD. The laundry list of bizarre stuff from this character is epic. I still can’t tell if he is medicated, drunk, or just plain weird.
I guess the funniest part is how he thinks he has such respect and consideration here. Probably not all that different than around the neighborhood.
At the lake house.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:06 pmJd
please send your requests for corrections to Allahpundit and Andrew Breitbart
EricPWJohnson (d84fb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:09 pmDing dong the Cain is gone!
Can we sing it yet?
EricPWJohnson (d84fb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:10 pmNope. You claimed it here, as fact. Your claim. Your idiocy.
You did not attribute that to anyone other than yourself.
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:11 pmHas anyone seen any evidence of the rape epwj accused Cain of?
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:16 pmIts next to the Murkowski corruption files in your desk drawer there JD, along with my campaign contributions to Dee Dee and my statements on Jews and all sorts of stuff you make up
Sharp edge guy 🙂
Ding dong the Cain is GONE!!?!?!?!
EricPWJohnson (d84fb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:19 pmI do find it unseemly for grown men to whine though
EricPWJohnson (d84fb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:20 pmMaybe epwj and Barcky can count jooooooos together.
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:20 pmOne of the lead FBI agents on the Stevenscase, was in a ‘relationship’ with their lead witnesses, and protected him from scrutiny on some of his more
narciso (0fc95f) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:22 pmdubious personal practice.
You are a vile disgusting boy, epwj.
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:23 pmDing dong the race traitor is gone.
What you really meant to say Eric.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:24 pmNolte made that false claim on Big Government. He is incorrect and I hope someone from Illinois corrects him. Taking a party’s primary ballot in an election in Illinois does not mean you are “registered” or that you lean to that party. It means you chose to take that party’s ballot and vote in that one particular primary on that ballot. It is not a permanent declaration. There is no official registration of Dem. Repub or Independent like there is in many states. I have taken a Dem ballot in Cook county on more than one occasion where the results of that primary meant something important to me. Doesn’t mean I’m a “registered democrat”- by a long shot.
That said, I hope she is a Republican. We need all the voters we can get. Just want to correct the “registered” business because it is misleading and wrong.
elissa (acaeff) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:25 pmAnd Andrew’ site confirmed that she confronted Cain! Before all this happened and tha Cain recognized her and was – well you read the Rest
JD, please call Andrew and ask him why he’s smearing Cain?
http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/07/exclusive-source-confirms-latest-accuser-attended-teacon-2011-where-herman-cain-was-featured-speaker/
EricPWJohnson (d84fb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:25 pmShe is a MCCain fanatic so she is a RINO traitor.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:25 pmPlease just admit your goal was to destroy him?
And I thought you hated Breitbart you jew hating nazi?
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:27 pmIs epwj mental? Arguing with the voices in is head again?
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:28 pmExactly only a matter of time before he outs himself as a LGF plant.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:29 pmelissa
Feel free to correct him, apparently she is a Republican – I mean there are Republicans in Illinois correct? I think the mistake is that Allahpundit added – registered – I dont think Nolte did.
But the fact that she was a Tea Party organizer hurts Cain and I think everyone should hold their breath as 4 count em 4 with two payouts are on deck and who knows is batting fifth in the Cain’s house of pain
EricPWJohnson (d84fb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:33 pmGot it you piece of crap?
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:35 pmYou just promoted her from attendee to organizer. And now you appear to be advancing a notion that if someone else makes a mistake it gives you carte blanche to run with said mistake and spread it far and wide.
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:41 pmJD
Okay, she was an attendee, Cains House of Pain
I wonder when he’s going to explain the Cain 30% tax he keeps forgetting to tell people when he bein all folksy and loveable an playin that racecard
EricPWJohnson (d84fb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:43 pmjust say it ain’t so, peewee johnson!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoYsfbq3vMc
ColonelHaiku (ad6eba) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:46 pmYou know I think there are more important issues at stake,
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arretsurimages.net%2F
narciso (0fc95f) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:50 pm_____________________________________________
In my perfect world Gloria Alred and her RINO supporters would have their heads kicked in.
To give Allred a bit of credit, she was one of the few females of the left who back in the 1990s did excoriate Bill Clinton for being a scumbag. However, I’m sure she gets far more pleasure in publicly slamming a conservative/Republican.
To give Cain a bit less credit, he’s fumbled a variety of issues over the past few weeks, or a few too many for comfort. Some of them are excusable, but in the game of hardball politics — in which too many people fall for the idea that liberalism (and liberal politicians) is beautiful, generous, compassionate and sophisticated (and supposedly less tolerant of sexual harassment—HA!) — he’s gotta be a lot quicker on his feet.
But all things considered, and short of any of the nomination-winning Republicans being caught flashing their privates in public and robbing a bank, nothing will detract me from “ABO,” meaning voting for anyone but the “goddamn America” disgrace currently in the White House.
Mark (411533) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:53 pmDoes truth matter any more, this was Howard Beale’s prescient question in Network, nearly 40 years ago,
narciso (0fc95f) — 11/7/2011 @ 6:57 pmMy guess is she told her boyfriend and her family and probably other friends at the time it happened 14 years ago.
No wonder his wife has been having such a hard time. They probably knew what was coming.
Are you referring to Cain’s wife? I haven’t read anything where she stated she was having a hard time. As far as I know, she hasn’t spoken to the media about this (or much else).
The latest comment was tonight when Cain spoke on the O’Reilly show,
“She is disgusted that this has happened. She is disgusted with how the story has been twisted,” Cain said. “She is still 200% supportive of me and she is still 200% my wife. So she’s handling it.”
Dana (4eca6e) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:00 pmGloria lambasted Bill but when it was obvious the media didn’t join her she backed off like the hag she is.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:01 pm==But the fact that she was a Tea Party organizer==
==the mistake is that Allahpundit added – registered – I dont think Nolte did==
Eric–two things.
First she attended Teacon according to a tea party organizer. Where did you get the idea that she is a tea party organizer herself?
Second, @ 6:09 on this thread you had pointedly said that Nolte called her a registered Republican.
I did verify that in that BG article Nolte said she called herself a “Registered Republican”. She may self identify as a Republican and I hope she is one. But she is not registered as one. That was the point I and several others who know Illinois politics were trying to clarify for accuracy’s sake.
elissa (acaeff) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:10 pmI love the israel haters saying Cain is like Al
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:14 pmsharpton.
Elissa – he could not give a crap about honesty.
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:14 pmso the story as I understand it is that her boyfriend really wanted Jiggles to get a job, so he said hey call up that Herman guy and me, winner pediatrician, will put your loser ass on a plane to DC so you can beg Herman for a job
And Jiggles was like ok.
So Jiggles goes to DC and it’s all a bust. So she has to go back to her boyfriend and tell him it was a bust.
But she’d already told him a story about how it wasn’t her fault she’d gotten fired – and for Herman to tell her to get lost was humiliating – so she probably made up a story about Herman to cover her own loser-assed can’t-get-a-job humiliation.
I think that’s a very fair read of the facts.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:40 pmhey feets.
intrade.
you were right when you said Perry was the best your side had.
wheeler's cat (9f8c21) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:45 pmand that is waay sad.
Heh. You said “bust.”
carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:47 pmfeets…..its time to walk away.
wheeler's cat (9f8c21) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:47 pmrelly.
You can’t harass someone when they are not employed in your company.
SPQR (26be8b) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:50 pmJD quick call the Iowa paper, they are smearing Cain
“
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/07/quotes-of-the-day-853/
EricPWJohnson (d84fb0) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:51 pmgo get em
Dude your becoming more and more stupid.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:53 pmI’m sorry any one who plays the gender card against anyone who speaks the truth about crazy eyes Bachmann is not credible.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:54 pmYou can’t harass someone when they are not employed in your company.
If what she said proves true, wouldn’t it be worse than harassment – wouldn’t it be assault?
Dana (4eca6e) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:54 pmDude facts are a drag according to BillyLoomisJohnson.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:55 pmhere’s a transcript of both Allred and Jiggles
it’s a kooky story
my questions as I read through it start here and go on for a few comments
it really is an odd story – her relationship with Mr. Herman was very very scant at the time she flew out to DC to meet with him
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:56 pmNot true. An “applicant” is covered by the EEOC harassment definition. While the latest claimant technically wasn’t either, in spirit, she was asking for a job, and the dude allegedly harassed her.
carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:56 pmGloria Allred sexually harrasses my T.V.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:57 pmBy “either” I mean employee or applicant.
carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:57 pmDude can I sue Gloria Allred for sexually torturing me?
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:58 pmSure, if she has sexually tortured you. Are you this inept at the real world?
carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/7/2011 @ 7:59 pmNo I was joking.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:00 pmYet not one of those people you quote, epwj, accused Herman Cain of rape. Only you.
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:00 pmOK.
carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:01 pmGloria Allred-Um my client was sexually harassed by Herman Cain.
Reporter-Do you have proof?
Gloria Allred-Um ah eh ooh um ah I inherited this from the bush administration.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:03 pmand Mr. Ernst makes a good point – where are the victims from the Godfather’s days? He was there over twice as long as he was at the NRA.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:04 pmI like carlitos. Mucho. 😉
It appears epwj finally passed out.
JD (318f81) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:10 pmoh feets…your hairs onfire and you dont even know it.
wheeler's cat (9f8c21) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:11 pmMr. Feets – Did Jiggles offer any proof of her allegations or is this gonna be another of those media frenzies of Mr. Cain, you gotta provide EVIDENCE her allegations are false, not just deny them, even though she did not provide evidence they are true, cuz that’s the way we capital “J” journalists play the game and you can’t just tell us to stop asking questions.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:12 pmJD, did you catch this?
He must be drunk or stoned. He certainly doesn’t pay attention to his own history.
On the other hand, maybe the first half of the comment explains the second.
Simon Jester (03dff5) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:12 pmThis woman Bialek might have been harrassed[although it isn’t likely.] Why did she wait 14 years.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:13 pmDana–I don’t see how any of it will ever be proved true–or not true. (It all “happened” before the ubiquitous camera phones.) That we’ll never know what did occur is the tragedy of it all. That said, from her description today I don’t think I’m seeing assault here, as you mention. What am I missing?
elissa (acaeff) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:13 pmGodfather victims include fans of real cheese.
carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:18 pmThe problem I have with this whole thing is that the libs and left wing operatives like Gloria Alred rationalize lying, voter fraud, and personal destruction of others so that their person can get elected “to do good things.” This Cain thing is death by a thousands cuts and now he is tagged as being a sexual harasser and womanizer and perhaps unfairly damaged beyond repair with undecided voters. This is what they did to Sarah Palin. SNL will do some skits portraying him as a womanizing sleaze and that will be the public perception of him.
Dave B (982f20) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:18 pmAww.
Moment of silence for Joe Frazier. Passed away tonight.
My joy at the Bears success are meaningless compared to this news.
carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:20 pmMaybe so, Dave B. But we are the dumb ones, for buying into it. Right?
Simon Jester (03dff5) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:21 pmis / are
carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:22 pmCarlitos is sexually harassing me………Get Gloria on the phone.
😀
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:23 pmMr. daley she has two anonymous affidavits – one from her boyfriend at the time
but in her statement today she said she never told them the details
that’s the sum total of her proof
Herman is someone she met at a conference in May. She was fired in June and in July she was jetting off to talk him into reversing the decision of the people who fired her.
What kind of sense does that make? Herman didn’t know this woman – he had no way of knowing if she was suited to her position or not. And Jiggles was asking him to countermand her superiors who knew her well and thought she was a sucky employee.
There’s no way Herman was going to acquiesce to that. No competent manager would.
Jiggles is just a sad deluded hoochie who thought she had connections she didn’t have.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:24 pmI need to try this Godfather pizza but next on my pizza list is something called Little Toni’s but they don’t deliver
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:25 pmi sorta enjoy being a ghost, Patterico.
wheeler's cat (9f8c21) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:26 pmDown goes Frazier!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:38 pmSpeaking of inappropriate behavior—
I hope this doesn’t make me sound like a sore loser. But if Happy Valley was going to have a major sex scandal complete with indictments that put the whole Penn State athletic department and university at sixes and sevens, why couldn’t it have erupted publicly before they played the hapless Fighting Illini? JoePa achieved “most winning coach ever” after they won by just 3 lousy points. I bet they don’t play so good this week. Since the other coach’s acts of pedophilia had apparently been going on for more than a decade,it sure was convenient that it didn’t hit the fan until Paterno could win his 409th victory and retire.
elissa (acaeff) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:41 pmelissa, of course it’s not provable – one way or the other, however, I’m asking the question because I don’t know the answer, however it seems that *if* it were provable and *if* he did do that, would it not rise to the level of assault rather than harassment? (Again, because I don’t know the answer, I’m asking those who practice law).
Also, my b.s. meter goes in overdrive when a woman claims sexual harassment but says nothing about it until 14 years later and yet give the following excuse for coming forward now,
Piers Morgan: Obviously the cynics, and there will be many out there, will say why have you waited 14 years to come out with these claims? Are you making any money from this? Do you intend to make any money. You’re not being paid for this interview, but do you intend to make any money from your revelation?
Sharon Bialek: Piers, that was never my intention from the start and it is not my intention to do it. I’m all about doing the right thing, about justice being served. I wanted to do this because those that know me, know I don’t back down from controversy and things. I felt I needed to do this for the other women that couldn’t or wouldn’t regardless of what happens And I know you’re right. There’s going to be a lot of backlash and I’m going to have to suffer through that. And I’m sure that I’m not going to be portrayed as you know, different things. So, um, I’m willing to handle it. I’m a tough girl.
What about all those supposed other women during the past 14 years of her silence? Weren’t they worth it?
Dana (4eca6e) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:44 pmhi ghost!
I have a musics for you!
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:45 pmok I have two they’re from the same guy
this one and also this one
all his stuff is good but those ones are pretty immediately catchy
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:46 pm“What about all those supposed other women during the past 14 years of her silence? Weren’t they worth it?”
Dana – Piers should have asked her the money question again after her response.
“That’s all well and good Sharon, but are you going to make any money from this?”
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:51 pmoh and also thank you for the foster song I hadn’t heard it yet
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:51 pmoh. nevermind that was an ad yes I love that song
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 8:52 pmdaley, there were a number of things he should have followed up with, however, I didn’t get the impression that he was interested in pointing out inconsistencies, getting her to reveal her hand, or discover her real motives.
Dana (4eca6e) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:01 pmI hate to be cynical, but this all seems a bit too convenient.
Look at it like this. You have three allegations according to Politico. No one comes forward to back up the allegations.
Then, you have Gloria Allred suddenly producing an aggrieved party, who by all evidence did indeed know Cain. Yet, she waited 14 years to make an allegation.
Now, the aggrieved party is famous. She will be on the talk shows and will get an advance for a tell-all book. Allred will get her cut and a popular GOP candidate will twist in the wind.
However, I’m not that cynical. If Cain did what she alleges, he should not be a legitimate candidate. In exactly the same way that Clinton should not have been President.
Except, that tiny part of my mind keeps saying “Haven’t we all seen this before?”
Just meanderings of a useless fool.
Ag80 (ec45d6) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:06 pmDid that lying sack of shat finally pass out?
Good.
Icy (bd2739) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:07 pmA 5th woman! Broad speculation and assumption and yet that seems to no longer matter… it’s more proof.
A former employee of the United States Agency for International Development says Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain asked her to help arrange a dinner date for him with a female audience member following a speech he delivered nine years ago.
Donna Donella, 40, of Arlington, said the USAID paid Cain to deliver a speech to businessmen and women in Egypt in 2002, during which an Egyptian businesswoman in her 30s asked Cain a question.
“And after the seminar was over,” Donella told The Washington Examiner, “Cain came over to me and a colleague and said, ‘Could you put me in touch with that lovely young lady who asked the question, so I can give her a more thorough answer over dinner?'”
Donella, who no longer works for USAID, said they were suspicious of Cain’s motives and declined to set up the date. Cain responded, “Then you and I can have dinner.” That’s when two female colleagues intervened and suggested they all go to dinner together, Donella said.
Cain exhibited no inappropriate sexual behavior during the dinner, though he did order two $400 bottles of wine and stuck the women with the bill, she said.
The next time the women heard from Cain was Christmas, when he sent them his gospel CD.
Donella said she felt it was important to describe her encounter with Cain after hearing more serious allegations of sexual harassment brought by other women.
“I couldn’t swear that he had some untoward intentions, but we all thought his tone was suspect and we didn’t feel comfortable putting him in touch with that woman,” Donella recalled.
“I think [Cain] should not be a serious candidate for the presidential nomination because of what I’ve seen,” said Donella, an independent who said she voted for President Obama in 2008 and probably will again next year. “He’s not a person I would want running the country.”
Cain’s campaign did not immediately respond to inquiries from The Examiner.
Dana (4eca6e) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:13 pmshe’s clearly racist Dana – Donna Donella is clearly driven by a hatred for Southern black men she can only have learned from her parents
that’s the same as child abuse
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:16 pmDid she have any problem with Slick Willie running the country?
Icy (bd2739) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:17 pmno she’s a big fan of Southern white men Mr. Icy
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:19 pm“…i sorta enjoy being a ghost, Patterico….”
Are ghosts on Risperdal? And do specters lose capital letters and apply punctuation in a Jackson Pollock strategy?
Simon Jester (03dff5) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:21 pmit’s an enigma Mr. Jester one to ponder for the ages
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:22 pmGloria Allred does not have a track record for truth……………………only feminzai maneaters say that.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:22 pmOh look anoter hot airhead making excuses for a feminazi.
And it is a butthurt ex palinista.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:23 pmAfter this is all over decent men will be afraid to ever show physical interest in women or ask them out to dinner or a date. If this 5th woman doesn’t set almost every dude in America on edge I’ll be surprised.
elissa (acaeff) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:23 pmNo, Mr. Feet, I suspect that she sent her punctuation on Hajj, and they took yours with them.
Simon Jester (03dff5) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:25 pmAnyone who lies for Allred is an enemy of america.
Truth hurts the feminazis.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:26 pmand stuck the women with the bill
my ass, racist Donna Donella
you picked up the check and you expensed that to the federal government because it made you feel important
and deep inside your pathetic racist little heart you know it
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:28 pmMr. Jester the punctuations are arbitrary and oppressive sometimes
free your mind and the rest will follow
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:30 pmB-but Allred is always right your all a bunch of evil men who need to know their flace
/Feminazisgirl
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:32 pmAllred always backs truth tellers…………except for those evil abortin hating joooooooooooos
/Feminazisgirl
Place*
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:33 pmfor my friends simon and Mr. feets
punctuation’s free and arbitrary—
nobody loses all the time e.e. cumings
i had an uncle named
Sol who was a born failure and
nearly everybody said he should have gone
into vaudeville perhaps because my Uncle Sol could
sing McCann He Was A Diver on Xmas Eve like Hell Itself which
may or may not account for the fact that my Uncle
Sol indulged in that possibly most inexcusable
of all to use a highfalootin phrase
luxuries that is or to
wit farming and be
it needlessly
added
my Uncle Sol’s farm
failed because the chickens
ate the vegetables so
my Uncle Sol had a
chicken farm till the
skunks ate the chickens when
my Uncle Sol
elissa (acaeff) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:38 pmhad a skunk farm but
the skunks caught cold and
died and so
my Uncle Sol imitated the
skunks in a subtle manner or by drowning himself in the watertank but somebody who’d given my Uncle Sol a Victor Victrola and records while he lived presented to him upon the auspicious occasion of his decease a scruptious not to mention splendiferous funeral with tall boys in black gloves and flowers and everything and i remember we all cried like the Missouri when my Uncle Sol’s coffin lurched because somebody pressed a button (and down went my Uncle Sol and started a worm farm)
abortion*
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:42 pmin pikachu college they were very keen for me to know that Mr. cummings was a vicious vicious homophobe
my favorite is about the balloon man
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:43 pmSorry if your gonna question someones conservatism than you shouldn’t spout class warfare rhetoric against Cain and you perrylickers knopw I’m right.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 9:59 pmI was about to turn off my PC and call it a night when one of the muckey-mucks walked in.
“You the speechwriter?”
“One of them,” I replied. “All the others have gone home. Say, would you mind putting out that cigarette?”
He gave me an angry look and took another puff. “Listen up, ink-stained wretch,” he said. “You’re gonna have to stay late. The Boss has decided to go the ‘forgiveness’ route. You gotta draft something for him. You got fifteen minutes.”
“The ‘forgiveness’ route? What do you mean?”
“Look, all these broads coming out of the woodwork is killing us. So, the Boss has decided to ‘fess up and ask people to forgive him. Forgive and forget, then get on with the campaign. It’s the Christian thing to do, OK? You get the drift?” He put out his butt in the dregs of my vanilla latte and gave me a thin smile. “Fifteen minutes. Make it snappy!”
I’ve got to tell you, I felt pretty nervous and made a few false starts as the clock ticked away. Then it came to me. Gospel cadence, elevated language, relentlessly high-toned!
A few clicks on Google and I had it. It had been so long, I was pretty sure that no one would recognize it and that I would get away with it.
There… Cut, paste…bada-bing, bada boom — the forgiveness route!
Yeah, that should work. Well, Chief, what do you think?
angeleno (dc03c3) — 11/7/2011 @ 10:07 pmMr. Feet, you are at least amusing sometimes. Nishi, however, is the best example of the British term “twee” I have ever read.
Speaking of ee cummings, that is the problem with personal affectations. They can start out funny, even droll, but can quickly become a prison regarding a person’s creativity.
Just sayin’. Your mileage may vary.
Simon Jester (03dff5) — 11/7/2011 @ 10:13 pmHuh? Even by the already-low standards of the previous “accusations”, if one can call them that, huh? He is accused of asking a woman to have dinner with him?! That’s the “inappropriate behavior” he’s supposedly prone to, and that’s what should disqualify him as a candidate?! The mind boggles, it truly does.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 11/7/2011 @ 10:15 pmknow*
Sorry Allred is not being used by anyone she willingly smeared the Duke lacrosse players Herman Cain and Meg Whitman.
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/7/2011 @ 10:27 pmLet’s see if I got this right. This woman comes to a convention to meet a man about getting a job. She stays in a room he got her and goes out to dinner with him. You think the man might get the idea that something good is going to happen? He’d be a fool not to at least make a pass.
AZ Bob (37ebf6) — 11/7/2011 @ 10:51 pmAZ bob
How many women is your limit? Same for everyone here – how many until its over?
Another smear
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/07/opinion/bennett-cain-sex-harassment-allegations/
EricPWJohnson (c5f1fc) — 11/8/2011 @ 2:41 amNewt’s alone in second place in IA. SC, FL?
gary gulrud (d88477) — 11/8/2011 @ 3:02 amSome people laughed when I said a few weeks ago that Newt was stronger than ever
Newts a great conservative, squishy on some social issues, softer on illegal immigration (or realistic maybe) than some would like
Electability will be an issue but in debates – since the meme is a debator in chief – he would be tops
Perry, however, doesnt think much of government and would work every day of 8 years to reduce it – Gingrich has this vision like Romney that government can be smarter cheaper
Both approaches have merit – however only one has results
EricPWJohnson (c5f1fc) — 11/8/2011 @ 3:22 amGo back to bed. Sleep it off.
JD (207300) — 11/8/2011 @ 4:33 amThere is room to doubt the accuser, if you read through the tea leaves, ABC doesn’t provide a link
to the registration site;
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=8422203
narciso (0fc95f) — 11/8/2011 @ 4:54 amWhat about if they’re applying to your company for a job, and after trying to finger bang the person and guide their head to your crotch, you say, “You want a job, right?”
Isn’t that the very definition of quid pro quo sexual harassment?
Random (38d59c) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:09 amA 5th woman! Broad speculation and assumption and yet that seems to no longer matter… it’s more proof.
Milhouse @ 171,
Clearly, I was being sarcastic.
Dana (4eca6e) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:15 amMilhouse, see my last post.
Her accusation might not be accurate, but if it is accurate, it’s a serious political and character problem, isn’t it?
Not rape serious, but not nothing either.
Random (38d59c) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:22 amCuriouser and curiouser,
The Cain Encounter …
They hugged each other backstage in a full embrace like old friends.
She grabbed his arm and whispered in his left ear.
She kept talking as he bent to listen, and he kept saying “Uh, huh. Uh, huh.”
Huh?
“I don’t know if what she was giving him was a sucker punch, but he didn’t put his arm down while she was talking to him,” said the Sneed source.
The encounter: “It looked sort of flirtatious,” said Jacobson. “I mean they were hugging. But she could have been giving him the kiss of death for all I know. I had no idea what they were talking about, but she was inches from his ear.”
Dana (4eca6e) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:31 amhttp://michellemalkin.com/2011/11/07/grassley-to-white-house-cough-up-lightsquared-docs-or-ill-block-fcc-nominees/
narciso (0fc95f) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:37 amDana
We are going to see people try and “tripp” up these women
EricPWJohnson (c5f1fc) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:41 amspinning like a hurricane
EricPWJohnson (c5f1fc) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:44 amFox news has Cains accuser on coming up – its interesting she is willing to be cross examined while the guy who
Pretended he didnt know there were incidents
Pretended not to know payments were made
Made deliberate misstatements about the severity of the payments
Said there would be no other incidents
said he only made an uncomfortable comment
This guy isnt taking questions
Hmmmmmm
EricPWJohnson (c5f1fc) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:52 amI vote in Illinois. Anyone can pull a ballot in a Republican primary and vote in it, Republican, Democrat, or independent. all they ask is what ballot you want. There’s no such thing as registering one way or the other, and since she lives in or around Cook County, it would be very surprising if she’s really a Republican–certainly not a conservative, no matter what her affiliation is with the Tea Party.
rochf (f3fbb0) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:53 amThey have meds for that.
Icy (9fe857) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:54 amRe: #186
Icy (9fe857) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:57 amIt’s like watching Sherlock Holmes, live & in-person, on the case. Ooooooooo!!!!
No, more like Woody Allen’s take on Casino Royale
[note: fished from spam filter. –Stashiu]
narciso (0fc95f) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:03 am== There’s no such thing as registering one way or the other, and since she lives in or around Cook County, it would be very surprising if she’s really a Republican–certainly not a conservative, no matter what her affiliation is with the Tea Party==
Your first statement is true and bears repeating. The rest (after “and”) is a gross generalization. Ms Bialek (who is from Mundelein in Lake Co.) aside, there are quite certainly active and committed Republicans and conservatives in Chicago, suburban Cook Co. and near environs. Some of them are regulars on this blog.
elissa (72b3ed) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:09 amOh
Played the race card repeatedly
Lied about 9 9 9 economists
Lied about 9 9 9 – its really a new 30% national tax
Lied about Perry causing the leak – he knew this was out there before he even ran for president
As Kat McKinley said – there always is a pattern with these type of people
As Usual Kat is extremely fair and gracious like DRJ, Karl and Pat and here are some of her comments:
Then as the third woman broke:
BTW Kat is one of JD’s favorite blogger we used to blog together over at Texas Sparkle years ago
She is one of those who helped launch Hotair and is just as nice a person as there is on God’s green earth
It is still possible that Cain is totally innocent of all these charges, it could be happenstance
But his serial lying is getting tiresome
Read all of Kats comments
http://blog.chron.com/texassparkle/2011/11/herman-cain-and-vetting/
EricPWJohnson (c5f1fc) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:10 amThis wasn’t a job interview. He had not advertised a position, he wasn’t looking to hire anyone, and she wasn’t asking him to hire her. By her account she was merely asking his help in finding a job. That does not create an employer-employee situation where the anti-discrimination laws apply.
Are you still talking about the fourth woman (Sharon Bialek), or about the fifth one (the USAID worker who claims he (gasp) asked her to dinner)?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:14 amThat is not what she’s even accusing him of. Putting his hand under her skirt bears no resemblance to that, unless her skirt was more of a belt.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:21 amBut his serial lying is getting tiresome
— Irony, meet the one what ironed you.
Icy (9fe857) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:22 am5th, Donnella, an Obama voter, despite all evidence
narciso (0fc95f) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:23 amwould seem to be 4th,
I missed where RWS accused Cain of rape, epwj. Trying to align yourself with a thoughtful honest blogger will not make your nuttiness go away.
JD (207300) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:26 amWhere were all of these women when he ran for the Senate?
Where were all of these women BEFORE he became the front-runner?
Unlike EricPukeWagJohnson I make no wink-wink nudge-nudge claim that this definitively proves anything. Just trying to understand the psychology of this very fortuitous timing.
Icy (9fe857) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:34 amI don’t know, perhaps the USAID worker has been telling people for years about the black man who dared to ask her to dinner, but until now nobody was interested in hearing it. Ditto with the three women who once upon a time filed complaints accusing him of we-have-no-idea-what; until last week nobody cared about their non-story. Which leaves only Gloria Allred’s client, who is making an actual accusation, weak as it might be.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:39 am‘Nothing to see here, these aren’t the droids you’re looking for’:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/clinton-u-s-will-work-with-arab-springs-islamist-parties/
narciso (0fc95f) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:39 amI wonder if Texas Sparkle would admit to blogging with EPWJ. As opposed to his leaving comments there.
I hope he isn’t claiming elsewhere that he is blogging with Patterico here.
Simon Jester (03dff5) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:39 amPerhaps all these women had not realised until recently that this black man who’s running for president is the same one who was head of the National Restaurant Association more than a decade ago. After all, they all look alike, don’t they?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:40 amThey all look alike until they go off the reservation and start hitting the symbolic crack-pipe.
Icy (9fe857) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:57 amEPWJ – Has Texas Sparkle banned you from commenting on her blog or do you use a different name there?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:59 am______________________________________________
“I think [Cain] should not be a serious candidate for the presidential nomination because of what I’ve seen,” said Donella, an independent who said she voted for President Obama in 2008 and probably will again next year.
LOL. Yea, uh, so Donella would rather have an ultra-liberal like the guy now in the White House running things. The very fact she shrugs off the extremism of someone like that, meaning she herself undoubtedly has quite leftwing biases, makes her judgment of people and situations in general prone to being lousy.
As for the woman paraded around yesterday by Gloria Allred? That accuser’s reputation and background don’t appear to be so reliable or reassuring either. In fact, she has signs of being a flake—ie, lots of bankruptcies and lawsuits in her history. And even if she’s not a leftist like Donella appears to be, she very well could be no better than Delaware’s Christine O’Donnell.
Mark (411533) — 11/8/2011 @ 7:26 amExcept one was torn down, including here, and another is given a clean bill of health, Morgan,
narciso (0fc95f) — 11/8/2011 @ 7:36 amthe man who slandered the soldiers in Basra, yet
was able to skate after a time, is the truth teller, spare me
If Sneed says that Bialek and Cain were canoodling, then it’s true. Weird coincidence that she’s applying for a sales job at the conservative talk station, but wish her luck – tomorrow’s interview should be interesting!
carlitos (49ef9f) — 11/8/2011 @ 7:43 amDid Obama ever say no to Raising congress paychecks?
DohBiden (ef98f0) — 11/8/2011 @ 7:50 amHuh? I thought it was established that he was just letting Gingrich have his turn.
Milhouse (f8511c) — 11/8/2011 @ 12:58 pmThat is not what she’s even accusing him of. Putting his hand under her skirt bears no resemblance to that, unless her skirt was more of a belt.
I respected your intellect and dispassion greatly. But are you living in the same world? She said he reached for her genitals.
Random (38d59c) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:18 pmReally? I don’t believe you. When did she say that? Link or retract.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 11/8/2011 @ 5:35 pmShe did say he put his hand on her leg, and “reached” for her genitals, but didn’t say he ever “touched” her genitals. Even if you believe her, it’s pretty vague and subjective.
LASue (8d49e7) — 11/8/2011 @ 6:00 pmWhere did you see that? The story linked and quoted above says nothing of the sort. If she’d made such a claim, why would CBS not report it?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 11/8/2011 @ 8:25 pm