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8/24/2011

Is It Just Me . . .

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 12:48 pm

. . . or is there a disconnect between Rick Perry’s actual words in this video clip and the way those words are being characterized by MSNBC?

188 Responses to “Is It Just Me . . .”

  1. Let me guess … MSNBC inserted their narrative in place of his actual message, and shockingly, they do not match, and Perry is a bigoted racist.

    JD (318f81)

  2. Even discounting their political bias (as if that were possible) it is entirely too likely that the Media would misrepresent a candidate’s position out of simple incompetence.

    C. S. P. Schofield (8b1968)

  3. the propaganda slut is scared scared scared because Barack Obama is about to get pepper-sprayed by an electorate what is fed up with his rapey ways

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  4. MSNBC is just advancing the narrative that Perry is an extremist. It is a continuation of their distortion of reality. Nothing to see here.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  5. Hey, here’s an idea. Maybe Perry should start making all his comments and photo ops out on a golf course! The media tends to overlook stuff and excuse stuff there.

    elissa (4cbb30)

  6. Out “Foxed” by MSNBC.

    Lovin it!

    Spartacvs (4576a2)

  7. Go eff yourself SpartacBS.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  8. Spartacvs approves of overt lying. Shocka. That it is infesting this thread was as predictable as the sun rising.

    JD (318f81)

  9. Game on!

    The base has read the menu and ordered red meat. Something tells me there’s going to be a serious case of indigestion among the wider electorate come the general.

    Spartacvs (4576a2)

  10. Did y’all notice Spurty’s radio silence on the threads discussing his buddy Biden’s unfortunate comments about the One Child policy? The comments that the WH immediately but unsuccessfully tried to “explain” and distance themselves from? Yeah, Spurty didn’t have a thing to say about any of that, or even attempt a defense for the idiocy of his adored ones. He only ever comes around to spike balls at the other side and repeat stupid stuff that he borrows from leftist blog chatter.

    elissa (4cbb30)

  11. Wow, the left is scared to death of Rick Perry.

    It’s so early too, and they are so desperate that they have already elevated him to Obama’s level.

    Sure, to most here, he’s well above Obama’s level, but to the low info folks out there, they have made a serious miscalculation. The longer people compare Perry to his detractors or Obama, the better.

    —-

    Elissa, there’s a lot of silence from the lefties about a great many things lately. It’s very telling. But first, let’s see if Obama calls for honesty and civility from his cohorts smearing Perry. I shall commence holding my breath.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  12. I can’t police all your threads elissa and I draw the line at participating in some of the nuttier ones, which definitely includes anything touching on the subject of abortion.

    Spartacvs (4576a2)

  13. Wow, the left is scared to death of Rick Perry.

    You must be joking. I’ve been hoping against hope y’all would go for Bush III.

    Spartacvs (4576a2)

  14. I’ve been hoping against hope y’all would go for Bush III.
    Comment by Spartacvs — 8/24/2011 @ 1:33 pm

    Since President Obama continued so many of President Bush’s policies, wouldn’t he be considered “Bush III”? That would make Perry “Bush IV” I guess.

    Stashiu3 (601b7d)

  15. MSNBC lies, Spartacus applauds. As usual.

    SPQR (26a762)

  16. Stashiu, so many? More like all Bush policies.

    SPQR (26a762)

  17. SPQR – it appears to revel in it’s dishonesty and idiocy.

    JD (318f81)

  18. After they cropped that video of a black man open carrying a rifle and handgun so they could try to portray him as a white racist Tea Partier, I think the bar has been pretty much lowered to the ground. I expect when we get closer to the election we will see the forged documents and leaked “rumors” come out.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  19. I’ve been hoping against hope y’all would go for Bush III.

    Comment by Spartacvs

    hahaha

    As seems to be a trend, Stash and I think very similarly. What specifically about Bush didn’t you like? I bet almost all of it is stuff Obama has done.

    The only difference is that Obama wasted in 2.5 years the sum Bush spent in 8. Which I admit is a huge difference. Perry will hopefully be better.

    You’re scared of Perry and we both know it.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  20. Sir Stashiu SCORES!!! GOOOAAALLLLL!!

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  21. Stashiu – he only continued and/or expanded policies that he specifically ran against.

    JD (318f81)

  22. Dustin, good point about Obama elevating his opponents. He is so vain and thin skinned he can’t seem to help himself. Even a nobody like Joe the Plumber was raised way up by the Obama machine’s attacks.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  23. No need for forged documents and leaked “rumors” Perry wrote a book remember? Two books actually.

    More than enough to hang him in those.

    Spartacvs (4576a2)

  24. JD,
    Was there anything he did not campaign both for and against?

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  25. After they cropped that video of a black man open carrying a rifle and handgun so they could try to portray him as a white racist Tea Partier,

    Oh, I forgot about that. Why do these people care so much about the color of a man’s skin?

    MSNBC has been horrible for a long time now.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  26. Spart, your link shows Perry is honest. You want to talk about gays instead of jobs. It won’t work.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  27. Integrity check, spartacvs. Ha. Lol. Please list all of the names you have commented under.

    JD (318f81)

  28. All this underscores that there isn’t much you can do about it when your controversial and extreme views are spelled out in black and white in books that boast your name in big letters on their covers.

    Read it and weep Dustin, no need for any oppo research. It’s all right there in black & white. He may be the darling of the base right now, but come the general that stuff will come back to haunt. Mark my words.

    Spartacvs (4576a2)

  29. Read it and weep Dustin, no need for any oppo research

    Sorry, mate. I read it and nodded instead of weeping.

    If you want to call someone extreme for saying we choose to have sex, as a pathetic distraction from jobs and other Obama failures and lies, you will lose in 2012.

    You know it. You can’t possibly hope to win an election this way.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  30. Are you sure Bill Ayers didn’t write those books?

    Pious Agnostic (6048a8)

  31. I’m sure Perry would like to pretend someone else wrote them Pious, but it is what it is.

    Spartacvs (4576a2)

  32. Sparticvs, is it your point that Americans are going to turn en masse against Perry because he expressed the uncontroversial thought that people choose who to have sex with?

    Seriously? This is what you base your high spirits on?

    Then you’re an idiot.

    Pious Agnostic (6048a8)

  33. Then you’re an idiot.

    Comment by Pious Agnostic

    I’m sure that’s true, but what his odd confidence really demonstrates is that he’s scared to death. It’s the ‘I will insist everything is OK no matter what’ hysterics of Baghdad Bob.

    Perry will be constantly attacked and trapped with issues that have nothing to do with jobs. For example, that idiot who is mad at Perry because of some minor line or two in a textbook Perry didn’t choose.

    They scoured the world for anything horrible about Perry, but they found no Vera Baker. They found no Rev Wright. They found a normal man saying normal things.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  34. Every damn day for another 15 damn months….

    Pious Agnostic (6048a8)

  35. Yep, Pious. It will only get worse, too. There’s so much at stake for the crooks and hard left.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  36. The ads they are running basically say they will pay anyone to claim they had sex with Perry. I am sure they will find takers but it will be a hard sell to any rational person.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  37. Heh. More shared sacrifice from Queen Michelle: “Expensive massages, top shelf vodka and five-star hotels: First Lady accused of spending $10m in public money on her vacations”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2029615/Michelle-Obama-accused-spending-10m-public-money-vacations.html#ixzz1VyzwWftx

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  38. I am sure they will find takers but it will be a hard sell to any rational person.
    Comment by Machinist — 8/24/2011 @ 2:06 pm

    I think I see a flaw in their plan then. Oh, that’s what you mean… nevermind. ;)

    Stashiu3 (601b7d)

  39. Thank goodness I don’t watch TV anymore. That kind of stuff would sully my spirit and stain my soul.

    Every time man lies, part of the world dies.

    felipe (2ec14c)

  40. The ads they are running basically say they will pay anyone to claim they had sex with Perry.

    Yep. They are that desperate.

    It also has the benefit of suggesting to the extremely stupid that Perry might be guilty of something like this. But hey, like Alec Baldwin, they are just asking questions here. No basis required.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  41. Seriously? This is what you base your high spirits on?

    Like I said, ya’ll are going to love him. Independents, not so much.

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  42. The MSM is in full panic mode already. Expect lots more prevarications, “messaging” and outright lies, with a heaping helping of Chicken Little-ism to go with it.

    You cannot be allowed to make up your own mind – so your betters have already made it up for you.

    Bigfoot (8096f2)

  43. Bigfoot – what lies did Perry print in his 2 books?

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  44. Independents, not so much.

    Independents don’t give a crap about hysterical shrieking about social issues. They care about jobs.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  45. 23.No need for forged documents and leaked “rumors” Perry wrote a book remember?

    The implication being that if Perry had not written a book, then there would be a need for the left to forge documents and create false rumors.

    Chuck Bartowski (4c6c0c)

  46. I’d vote for simple incompetence where the young lady is concerned. She appears to be pulling 36i inches of vacuum between her ears. (Okay for you Clintonistas that doesn’t mean she’s the newest Monica Lewinsky–she’s just an airhead.)

    But pretty little thing that she is, she’s sorta like a second string cheerleader hoping that if she says just the right thing the quarterback on the all Metrosexual football team will notice her and smile at her. Obama will disappoint her–as he’s disappointed just about everybody else.

    Comanche Voter (0e06a9)

  47. They care about jobs.

    Well game over then, after all your man Bush II gave us the Bikini Graph. And now you want to nominate Bush III? bring it on!

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  48. Bush II = 5% unemployment, Spartacus.

    Obama failed to deliver on his jobs promises, and has offered an array of excuses. The fact is job creation stopped the day Obamacare was signed into law.

    Perry has a record and understands the conditions needed for jobs.

    Your best rebuttal is to link Rachel Maddow? Why would you even try if that’s the best you’ve got? It’s like me going to Kos and linking Rush to prove Obama is wrong.

    Clearly you do not intend to persuade anyone. You’re just lashing out.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  49. I linked to a graph, do you deny the numbers behind the graph? If so what numbers are you using?

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  50. Obama is Bush III you tard.

    I see the palinbots at Hot Air are taking offense to things again.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  51. Well game over then, after all your man Bush II gave us the Bikini Graph

    Oh my gosh! You mean there was a cyclical recession at the end of Bush’s term? What a horrible man he was, then. Everyone knows that when there’s a cyclical recession, it’s always the fault of a Republican President.

    You like graphs, chump?

    Here’s one for you

    This is a graph of total employment since 2008. Obama has actually stagnated job growth.

    Chuck Bartowski (4c6c0c)

  52. You are an abject liar, spurty. And a clumsy liar at that. It is especially cute that in a thread about the overt dishonesty of MSNBC, it links to Benen @MSNBC as an authoritative source.

    JD (318f81)

  53. I just don’t see much rhyme or reason to spart’s views.

    He picks a target and throws things at it, but mainly stuff he knows is not persuasive at all.

    Yes, Spart, we realize that the hard left will hate whoever MSNBC tells them to hate. That’s really all you’re showing us.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  54. Homosexuality has nothing to do with pedophilia?

    the catholic priests who like to fondle little boys are straight then right?

    DohBiden (d54602)

  55. the palinbots at Hot Air don’t like it when you respectfully disagree with her.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  56. “This is a graph of total employment since 2008.”

    Chuck – A chart of private sector employment looks even worse, but Spvrty doesn’t want to talk about that.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  57. The Democrat party opposed, fought and filibustered to prevent the passage of civil rights laws.

    TANSTAAFL (bb1ee7)

  58. “Perry wrote a book remember? Two books actually.”

    Spvrty – That means he’s ahead of Obama. Winning!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  59. Someone tell Cyrus Mchitler from CAIR and the NY ACLU that the muslims should stop committing terror attacks and they won’t be scrutinized……….oh silly me telling muslims to stop committing jihad is a civil rights violation.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  60. You do realize, do you not, that Spartacus was crucified?

    Sorta like what gonna happen to O!bama, as a matter of fact.

    TANSTAAFL (bb1ee7)

  61. Chucky cyclical recession? really?

    Where you been man, under a rock?

    WSJ – the worst track record on record

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  62. The MSM is in full panic mode already.

    The entire reactionary left is in full panic mode.

    They know that Teh Won is toast, and he’s gonna lose the Senate, too.

    TANSTAAFL (bb1ee7)

  63. Does anyone care what the harpys at WSJ think.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  64. Bigfoot – what lies did Perry print in his 2 books?

    Comment by Spartacvs — 8/24/2011 @ 2:36 pm

    Try giving us some examples.

    If you can.

    TANSTAAFL (bb1ee7)

  65. Sigh. Folks, Farticvs is just here to fling pooh. Repeatedly, he lies, distorts, or most commonly, doesn’t read material (either he is lazy or, um, not smart). When called on the fact that he doesn’t understand his own links, he runs away.

    But here is the post that says it all:

    “…I can’t police all your threads elissa and I draw the line at participating in some of the nuttier ones, which definitely includes anything touching on the subject of abortion…”

    Yes, Farticvs thinks he is “policing” the threads.

    What Stashiu3 does is policing. What Farticvs does is cheerleading. He is just a Pom Pom Boy.

    I also like the post where he criticizes someone for (wait for it) not reading something.

    That is a laughable moment.

    But remember: he only posts to argue, not debate. And I doubt he is bright enough to understand the difference.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  66. 61.Chucky cyclical recession? really?

    Yes, really. We had a recession in 2000-2001, and then started another one in 2008. It was exacerbated by the meltdown in the financial sector, but that was actually a bipartisan screw-up.

    Obama’s efforts to reverse the recession have only made things worse. When job growth should be at its strongest, it’s now stagnant because of the Obama administration. Deal with it, butt nugget.

    Chuck Bartowski (4c6c0c)

  67. In the history of the US, has anyone ever killed more jobs than Obambi?

    Note how desperate the leftists are to divert attention away from certain topics.

    SHOCKA that spurty failed yet another integrity check.

    JD (b98cae)

  68. Simon–You know who else thought he was a “policemn”?

    Barney Fife.

    elissa (4cbb30)

  69. Chuck, remember that the Dumb Lazy Troll doesn’t actually understand anything about which he posts. Period. So you will make his head hurt if you begin to skool him on economics.

    Remember how he claimed that no one (he said no one) among the Founders ever worked against slavery. Literally a minute with Google or Wikipedia would have demonstrated how profoundly dumb and insulting a statement that was. Yet he never owned his mistake, he just ran on to the next topic. So the choice remains: dumb or lazy.

    Typical troll.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  70. You know what, elissa? There is a lot in common, isn’t there?

    http://youtu.be/oBuPQgV8yBM

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  71. Watches in glee as SpartacBS’s head explodes like a detonated satchel charge.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  72. Chucky

    BLS unemployment stats

    Bush I, @inauguration 5.4%, last mth in office 7.4%

    Clinton, @inauguration 7.3%, last mth in office 3.9%

    Bush II, @inauguration 4.2%, last mth in office 9.9%

    Obama, @inauguration 9.7%, current 9.9%

    Tell me again why anyone concerned about tackling unemployment and the need to grow the economy would vote for Bush III?

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  73. Oops my bad, Obama current 9.1%

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  74. C’mon Spurty, be a sport. Can’t you even bring yourself to admit Simon’s You tube link parodying you is funny?

    elissa (4cbb30)

  75. 74.Oops my bad, Obama current 9.1%

    The only reason the unemployment rate is listed as 9.1% currently is because the percentage of population participating in the employment pool is at an all-time low. I submit that percentage is much lower than it reasonably should be. If it were as high as it was in 2008, unemployment would be over 10%.

    Chuck Bartowski (4c6c0c)

  76. Nothing like simply changing the metric to further The Narrative.

    JD (306f5d)

  77. Oops my bad, Obama current 9.1%

    Comment by Spartacvs — 8/24/2011 @ 3:52 pm

    Teh Won’s actual unemployment rate is about 16.2%

    He’s toast.

    TANSTAAFL (bb1ee7)

  78. Could an honest person direct us to where Bush’s unemployment figures were 9.9%.

    JD (109425)

  79. In the history of the US, has anyone ever killed more jobs than Obambi?

    Don’t forget that other object of reactionary leftist cargo cult worship, Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

    TANSTAAFL (bb1ee7)

  80. Why are incandescent light bulbs illegal in England?

    Why do leftards ban stuff they don’t like?

    DohBiden (d54602)

  81. United States Dept. of Labor, Bureau of Labor statistics. It’s in the link JD. One of those ‘reality has a liberal bias’ links.

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  82. #73, not to be picky b/c he obviously faked some data …. but isn’t the ending # for Bush I to be the beginning # for Clinton … I mean my ending inventory for 2002 must be my beginning inventory for 2003.

    S. Carter aka J-Z (786e37)

  83. I think it’s fairly self-evident that Perry is scaring the left to death. When was the last time sporty was this active in a thread?

    I don’t know if he will ultimately be the candidate, but he certainly seems to have all the right people worried.

    Ag80 (9a213d)

  84. So what was the last comment on the topic of this thread, the faking of media about Perry?

    Why do you think the troll is so desperate to derail that topic? Maybe it’s harder to defend?

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  85. One of those ‘reality has a liberal bias’ links.

    Teh Won’s actual unemployment rate is about 16.2%

    TANSTAAFL (bb1ee7)

  86. Labor force participation 2001-2011

    As you can see, a full 2% of the population — that’s 6,000,000,000 people — are now considered to be out of the labor pool. These people didn’t vanish, they’re out there and unemployed. If you added that number to the unemployment rate, Obama suddenly doesn’t look nearly so good.

    Chuck Bartowski (4c6c0c)

  87. Ah, thank you Ag80.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  88. Maybe you meant 6,000,000?

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  89. Chuck, see my #86

    TANSTAAFL (bb1ee7)

  90. b/c he obviously faked some data ….

    I gave you a link, go look for yourself.

    I’ll be right here, waiting for your apology.

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  91. You’re right, Machinist. I got used to typing so many zeros when counting up Obama’s deficits.

    Chuck Bartowski (4c6c0c)

  92. I don’t think that is total population but labor force, maybe 100 million or a little more.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  93. Understandable, Sir. He has taught us a new scale in so many areas.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  94. Why would you add that 2% to the Obama column and not the Bush column Chucky? how many of those long term unemployed became unemployed as result of the crash of ’08?

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  95. I remember when Trillions was only for the total debt, not the deficit.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  96. Spurty went to the Gleeeeen Greenwald school of self-refudiating links.

    JD (109425)

  97. I also remember when it would have been unthinkable for a major network “news” anchor to say the public expected him to be fair rather than objective.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  98. Spartacvs

    According to the “official” BLS George Bush’s unemployment rates were much lower than the number you quoted

    Also be reminded that the Democrats had control of the agenda since 2007 so before that the unemployment under Bush was some of the lowest in US history and the stock Market and jobs market were actually considered the best – many states and major retailers point to 2003-2006 as the best returns, sales, collections that they ever had

    http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat1.pdf

    EricPWJohnson (e83e82)

  99. One of those ‘reality has a liberal bias’ links.

    Comment by Spartacvs

    LOL. Linking MSNBC or another lefty rag and seeing a liberal bias there does not prove ‘reality’ has a liberal bias.

    What a chump.

    As Machinist noted, Spartacus is trying to change the subject from an egregious example of liberal bias. And since he takes anything a lefty says as proof, I can see why he’s so desperate to do so.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  100. Spart, EPWJ’s right. the democrat congress inherited one of the nicest economic pictures in American history.

    And amazingly, those aspects that were not bright are things Bush was fighting. Things like social security in need of reform, Barney Frank/Jamie Gorelick style Fannie Mae recklessness.

    Except for the deficit. Bush has a poor record on that, however the democrat house in 2007 took a bad situation and made it far worse. It would have taken the GOP house several decades to get to the debt level we’re at now.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  101. Oh. My. God.

    “…I’ll be right here, waiting for your apology…”

    Um, Sparticvs? How is that apology for misrepresenting the Founders, out of laziness and/or stupidity, coming?

    In other words: you first, you twit of a hypocrite.

    You really are like Barney Fife: clueless, arrogant, and always showing your cluelessness while convinced that you have someone proven yourself smart and well read.

    Spartifife? Fificvs?

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  102. If you idiots don’t think gays can be pedohpiles tell that to the catholic church.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  103. EricPWJohnson – Household data, the usual GOP dodge.

    But then 4.6 to 9.3% hardly paints a much better picture does it?

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  104. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

    Spurty is a f@cking liar.

    JD (318f81)

  105. Um. Sparticvs? Where is your apology? I think everyone should just keep asking, each time you post. Over and over again.

    After all, that is what you are doing, isn’t it?

    Hypocrite.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  106. I’m sorry, but anyone who wasn’t living under a rock knows this country was doing a lot better a few years ago.

    It’s no surprise that folks will blame and lie and spin it, but the essential truth is that America is on the wrong track right now. Spartacus can’t find a Rachel Maddow video to prove me wrong.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  107. -Comment by Dustin — 8/24/2011 @ 4:42 pm-

    I mostly agree but I do think it is important to realize that part of the good numbers being shown were in fact the housing bubble inflating the economy. We will be a long time reaching the pre-crash levels because things should never have been that high in the first place. I think it is important to look at this or recovery expectations will be unrealistic. Bush did the right thing to recover from the 9/11 economic slump but he got away with letting the Congress spend too much because of the inflated economy from the real estate market. His measures were still right but needed to be combined with some mature conduct from the Congress, which did not happen.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  108. Spartcvs

    Those are the “official” unemployment stats

    Also notice that the 66% of the population was officially participating in the workforce under Bush a 33% increase since WWII

    Since 2007 it has for the first time in US history – declined steadily for 4 years

    EricPWJohnson (e83e82)

  109. He should have been the adult and vetoed their party time.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  110. I wonder what changed in Jan 2007?

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  111. Machinist

    In order to fund the war on terror Bush had to submit to Pelosi and Reed

    EricPWJohnson (e83e82)

  112. That is a good point. I did not give that due consideration.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  113. Thank you.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  114. JD –

    Spurty is a f@cking liar.

    Take the link you posted, http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000 and change the beginning date in the box at the top to get Bush I and Clinton numbers. Exactly what are you accusing me of lying about retard?

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  115. No thank you Machinist for battling the trolls here of late

    EricPWJohnson (e83e82)

  116. You know, the IQ level of this thread just went above room temperature again now that I’ve started ignoring Sparticus.

    I don’t recall who pointed me to that script, but I’d like to publicly thank them again.

    Pious Agnostic (6048a8)

  117. “Spurty is a f@cking liar.”

    Of course he is. He’s an economic illiterate. Everybody knows the unemployment rate has gone up on Obama’s watch.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  118. Everybody knows the unemployment rate has gone up on Obama’s watch.

    Everybody except the Bureau of Labor Statistics apparently.

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  119. Cognitive dissonance. It’s what Fificvs eats for dinner:

    http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/08/24/video-sen-barack-obama-says-its-unpatriotic-to-rack-up-4-trillion-in-debt/

    Where is your apology, lazy and dumb hypocrite of a cheerleader for failed causes?

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  120. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

    Read it and weap, spurty. Then apologize for lying. Then apologize for being so damn stupid”

    JD (318f81)

  121. Numbers are hard for cheerleaders like Fificvs, JD.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  122. SpartCVS

    Point EXACTLY who was president in 2009? And point to the report that showed 10% unemployment under Bush not a wide website with thousands of publications but .. the one that supports your figures

    EricPWJohnson (e83e82)

  123. “Everybody except the Bureau of Labor Statistics apparently.”

    Spvrty – You screwed up, admit it. The Stimulus Bill was supposed to prevent unemployment from climbing above 8%. It didn’t because it was a stupid bill. Why have that as a goal if, as you claim, unemployment was already above that level?

    You are a moron.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  124. 2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7  
    2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0  
    2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7  
    2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4  
    2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9  
    2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4  
    2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.7 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0  
    2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 4.9 5.4 5.6 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.8 7.3  
    2009 7.8 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.5 9.7 9.8 10.1 9.9 9.9  
    2010 9.7 9.7 9.7 9.8 9.6 9.5 9.5 9.6 9.6 9.7 9.8 9.4  
    2011 9.0 8.9 8.8 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.1            

    JD (318f81)

  125. Spurty is a liar.

    JD (318f81)

  126. DOWN GOES SPVRTY, DOWN GOES SPVRTY

    Yet again.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  127. Spurty is just spitting out ass pulls and flinging feces like a caged monkey. Outright lies and fabrications. BLS even laughs at you, spurty.

    JD (318f81)

  128. I have no interest in Madcow’s bikini.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  129. -Comment by daleyrocks — 8/24/2011 @ 5:37 pm-

    I just ate! For that mental image you should be ashamed.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  130. Spurty stated Bush unemployment was at 9.9% his last month in office. Outright lie. Highest unemployment under Bush was 7.3%. unemployment never reached 9.9% and higher until October 2009, 10 months after he left office, and after the stimulus increased unemployment. Epic fail, spurty.

    JD (318f81)

  131. Well there was one cup left of fat free pudding in the fridge but now lost the desire to stick a spoon in it

    EricPWJohnson (e83e82)

  132. Sorry Machinist. I should have offered a prayer for him instead.

    Spvrty, may you get what you deserve.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  133. I have no interets in seeing Rachel Madcows mangina.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  134. No worries, folks. The Lazy Slow Troll will be back soon in another thread, flinging pooh.

    But I’m glad we have yet more evidence of his, um, thoughtlessness to pillory him with when he returns.

    And, to borrow from Al Sharpton, “return he much,” because he must police the threads.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  135. Hey, when you look like this, http://www.lazytown.com/Characters.aspx?char=Sportacus, and all your friends are either made of rubber or are 11, what do you expect.

    Ag80 (9a213d)

  136. If some people didn’t have rubber friends they might have no friends at all.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  137. Spurty – We await your apology for lying, aggressively.

    JD (318f81)

  138. the other propaganda slut in the clip is one Alex Wagner from the Huffington Post and she might could be mindlessly echoing Jansing’s lies to do a bit of penance for a few weeks ago when she suggested on that same network that Obama came out of the debt ceiling crisis looking like a weak and cowardly “tool of the right” – a tool of the right with an obscene “green jobs” fetish

    WAGNER: Renewables. Battery plans. If we see Obama in another battery plant in the next three weeks, I think everybody is ready to give up on wind, solar and hydro. I mean, the idea that that’s going to pull us out of the ditch that we are remain in.

    I mean, you know, I was talking with Emanuel Cleaver earlier this week, and he was saying, look, you know, to a certain degree, there’s bound to be disappointment, people pin hopes on Barack Obama. But, at the end of the day, people don’t understand what these green jobs are, you know? And if that’s the only plan he has, I think the White House is in serious trouble.

    the ditch that we are remain in indeed

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  139. Happy

    Obama does understand that the billions he invested in green energy is just free product R&D for the chinese that dont respect copyrights and reverse engineer everything they can get their hands on

    EricPWJohnson (e83e82)

  140. Dint forget about Slurpees in the backseat while driving, happyfeet.

    JD (318f81)

  141. For practice I got a no-sugar slurpee thinger the other day coming back from Santa Monica almost right at rush hour … it was so big it wouldn’t fit in my cup holder so I had to hold it between my legs

    it was very cold but I persevered

    never doing that again though

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  142. JD you numbskull

    The Bikini Graph shows the Bush economy Obama inherited was loosing jobs at an accelerating rate and continued hemorrhaging jobs until February of 2010. Beginning in February of 2009 the loss rate began to slow, largely due to stimulus measures and reached slightly positive job growth by March 2010 where it has more or less remained.

    I know numbers aren’t really your thing, but really?

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  143. Spartacvs

    except for the small fact that Obama and his party controlled the entire legislature an agenda the last 2 years before Obama became president

    except for that Obama inherited Obamas job loses created by Obamas active participation in Obama’s parties first attempts to destribute wealth by holding hostage the defense of the country

    EricPWJohnson (e83e82)

  144. Now you are just trying to distract from your lies lies lies lies lies lies lies. 9.9% under Bush. Your asspull, did not exist, does not exist.

    There is no evidence that the “stimulus” helped the recovery, and much evidence to show that it cost private sector jobs, just like BarckyCqre will. But you have just flitted to a new topic, and ignored your prior lies.

    JD (318f81)

  145. Obamas active participation in Obama’s parties first attempts to destribute wealth by holding hostage the defense of the country

    Wtf, can anybody who speaks wingnut tell me what any of that is even supposed to mean? anybody?

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  146. Everybody except the Bureau of Labor Statistics apparently.

    According to the BLS, unemployment was 7.8% in January, 2009. Today it is over 9%. So, even the BLS knows that unemployment has increased over Obama’s term.

    Chuck Bartowski (e84e27)

  147. First, it’s lose, not loose.

    Second, so what? Let’s assume that Bush created every problem in your little world.

    As far as I know, he’s watching the Texas Rangers play baseball right now.

    The man in charge has done a lot that should have stopped all the bad things. He hasn’t, even with two years of a complacent Congress.

    Yet, the only solution is do more of the things the man in charge has done to stop the bad things he hasn’t stopped?

    Blaming Bush can give you the tinglies, but Bush ain’t around no more.

    sporty, you have nothing. You’re just a little kid playing in an adult world.

    Go hop around with your rubber friends and the pink-haired girl for all the good you’re doing.

    Ag80 (9a213d)

  148. JD it’s real simple.

    The jobless numbers through Feb 2010 belong to Bush III. Bush took us on a roller coaster ride, he took unemployment rates way up and Obama brought them back down and stabilized the economy using stimulus. Job growth is now stagnant because the stimulus ran out and we meed more stimulus NOT spending cuts, which will simply drive the unemployment rates back up again.

    Spartacvs (2d9449)

  149. Spartacvs

    okay in 2007 and 2008 both houses – follow me here – in congress – (thats Washington DC) – are you still with me? – the two houses the Senate and the House of Representatives – executed their agendas – which started this “wave” you claim as Bushs’ – it was Obamas – his parties set the agenda in 2007 and 2008 Not Bushs’

    EricPWJohnson (e83e82)

  150. You do remember that the Democrats controlled congress in 2007 and 8 right?

    EricPWJohnson (e83e82)

  151. “According to the BLS, unemployment was 7.8% in January, 2009. Today it is over 9%.”

    Exactly. Plus the Stimulus Bill was supposed to keep the rate below 8%. EPIC FAIL!

    Spvrty, in some alternate universe of magical liberal thinking claims the unemployment rate has declined since Obama’s inauguration? EPIC FAIL!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  152. You are a child. Barcky took ownership a long time before that, even thou he is a child just like you, always pointing fingers. Face it. You lied. Objectively lied. And got called on it. The rest of your drivel is fairry dust and unicorn farts.

    JD (318f81)

  153. Who the heck is Bush III?

    Nonetheless, you are ignorant, not in the sense you make typos, but in the sense that you are ignorant. Vapid. Have nothing to say. No intelligent thought. Worthless.

    Ag80 (9a213d)

  154. “The jobless numbers through Feb 2010 belong to Bush III.”

    Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  155. here is one of National Soros Radio’s first stab at labeling Perry a “dominionist” – it’s all basically guilt by association stuff where they talk about some of the sleazier people what got involved with his monster truck prayer rally thing… but you have to listen to hear the whole thing there’s no transcrip

    and for to keep their bases covered National Soros Radio is also casting a wary eye on mormonism

    Mormons: Faith And Perceptions

    With The Book of Mormon getting rave reviews on Broadway and two presidential candidates who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Mormons again find themselves in the spotlight. Yet, many Americans know little, if anything, about the Mormon faith and much of what they do know comes from myths or misperceptions. The Church launched a media campaign this year that aims to introduce people to the Mormon faith and the lives of everyday Mormons. Guest host Rebecca Roberts talks with San Diego State University professor Joanna Brooks about the faith, experience, perceptions and misperceptions of modern Mormons.

    yes let’s review the “misperceptions” with National Soros Radio that will be very helpful

    you can listen to that one here

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  156. *stabs* I mean

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  157. also transcript needs a t ok this is what happens when i’m late for dinner bye

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  158. Sheesh–you’d think he’d need to take a bathroom break once in a while or go upstairs to open another package of Twinkies or korn kurls. But noooo.

    elissa (4cbb30)

  159. Spurty self-refudiatd. Again.

    JD (318f81)

  160. Spvrty – From the BLS, civilian employment in 000′s:

    January 2009 142,201
    July 2011 139,296

    Where are the jobs?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  161. Did Fificvs actually sneer that someone didn’t understand numbers? It is to laugh.

    By the way, remember that he feels that people should apologize when they are wrong. Hold him to it!

    Simon Jester (3440ac)

  162. Unemployment to remain above 8% until at least 2014.

    Stimulus was alleged to keep unemployment below 8%.

    JD (318f81)

  163. He was not wrong, Simon. He lied. Aggressively.

    We await his apology.

    JD (318f81)

  164. Daley, this Weeble (remember those?) will get all irritable if you keep confronting him with numbers. Math is hard!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq0OQBdIhsc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    Simon Jester (3440ac)

  165. Did you all see this troll’s description of the stimulus? Not very smart, it appears.

    But return he much, I’m sure.

    Simon Jester (3440ac)

  166. Is it me or is Whoopi Cushion Goldberg from the spew posting as SpartacBS?

    DohBiden (d54602)

  167. no SpartacBS’s friends are his right hand and his left hand which he uses to wank off.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  168. His measures were still right but needed to be combined with some mature conduct from the Congress, which did not happen.

    Comment by Machinist — 8/24/2011 @ 5:03 pm

    Yes.

    And it’s very important we not pretend the GOP is all things that are good when it comes to spending. They let us down. That is the reason they are struggling to gain enough power to stop the progressive agenda. They compromised and lost their purpose. The short term wishes of a few idiots corrupted the entire point behind a conservative political party.

    Anyway, EPWJ is quite right that the real deficits Bush saw came because the democrats held Iraq hostage. It’s actually very close to the awful descriptions used about the GOP with regard to the recent debt ceiling fight. They got their way.

    But before they had enough power to do that, Republicans had deficits. It would have been very hard for the GOP to balance the budget. Things would have to be cut. Departments would have shrank. Even education may have gotten a funding cut. Dare I say entitlements too. It would have been politically difficult, but today would be so different. In fact, the GOP would be in a much better position had they lost power for fighting to balance the budget, and then the democrats spent us to oblivion.

    As things are now, the voters have a choice between lame and horrible.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  169. Not all regulations are bad but when they harm jobs then they become problematic.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  170. Simon – I do remember Weebles.

    I am also getting a big kick out of the lib reaction to last night’s fake Krugman tweet about the earthquake. Outrageously outraged because it sounded so real – to bad the earthquake did not cause more damage, it could have provided some economic stimulus.

    The guy who did it on google+ fessed up today. Hilarious comments.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  171. #73
    FARTICVS!!!
    Unemployment rate January 2009!

    YOU LIED AGAIN!!!

    http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2009/feb/wk2/art02.htm

    You suck as a troll!

    reff (7206a4)

  172. Hell, even Kinky is supporting Rick Perry.

    I think Spartacus sees it too. This is going to be one of those landslide elections.

    Every little sideshow smear is going to help seal the deal. This country is getting sick and tired of games.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  173. Bush II, @inauguration 4.2%, last mth in office 9.9%

    Obama, @inauguration 9.7%, current 9.9%

    LIE

    b/c he obviously faked some data ….

    I gave you a link, go look for yourself.

    I’ll be right here, waiting for your apology.

    Comment by Spartacvs — 8/24/2011 @ 4:20 pm

    The only person that made anything up has been Spurty.

    Everybody knows the unemployment rate has gone up on Obama’s watch.

    Everybody except the Bureau of Labor Statistics apparently.

    Comment by Spartacvs — 8/24/2011 @ 5:27 pm

    Again. Lying about the BLS numbers. The truth is … Inconvenient.

    JD (318f81)

  174. So, sporty has a low bar for success.

    I can’t wait to see his cheers for 10.1.

    Ag80 (9a213d)

  175. JD – Bonus idiocy – Spvrty trying to tag Bush with the failure of Obama’s Stimulus Bill by saying Bush was responsible for the unemployment rate through February 2010, even though when selling that Bill to the public, Obama said it would prevent unemployment from climbing above 8%.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  176. You leftys like to insist your black power activists are against racial oppression but it just an excuse to hate whites.

    Looking at you Spartac.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  177. Mr. Obama was apparently so stunned by the problems he “inherited” that he has been unable to devise an effective solution during his last 31 months in office. When does Mr. Obama finally “take over” as president?

    navyvet (db5856)

  178. You must be paid off by Francois Duvaliers son[who is a lefty.]

    /Sarc off

    DohBiden (d54602)

  179. Chris Jansing always seemed cheerful and nice when she was local anchor Chris Kapostasy. She should have stayed in Albany and kept her name-unsuitable-for-a-national-audience. Being a Democratic strategist / “news” anchor isn’t doing her any good. She now has no credibility.

    Crispian (70c05e)

  180. Stashiu, so many? More like all Bush policies.

    If 0bama continued all of Bush’s policies, why would we be so opposed to him? If he’d proved merely as bad as Bush, I’d almost be willing to offer him the GOP nomination!

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  181. When you realize the the MSNBC producers, editors, on-air people, camera operators, writers, janitors and the people who make coffee runs are all intellectual equals of spurty, you can easily understand why they FAIL.

    Pious Agnostic (291f9a)

  182. Well, no worries. Fificvs will wake up, hung over again, and stumble back toward the keyboard. He won’t respond to his skooling here, and will instead try to stir up more nonsense elsewhere.

    But no matter where he goes, his nonsense is right with him.

    Simon Jester (3440ac)

  183. The problem is Obama reluctantly continues Bush’s policies, while he adds on new regulations and Obamacare crap to businesses.

    G (ce0c1b)

  184. #

    You do realize, do you not, that Spartacus was crucified?
    Sorta like what gonna happen to O!bama, as a matter of fact

    Quick! Call the Secret Service!

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  185. I don’t recall who pointed me to that script, but I’d like to publicly thank them again.

    You’re welcome.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)


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