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8/21/2011

Qaddafi Doings Afoot

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:07 pm



I’m not following it but there is a good collection of information at Hot Air.

49 Responses to “Qaddafi Doings Afoot”

  1. ok… check.

    now let’s do Syria

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  2. I’m sure the President is observing things at Martha’s Vineyard as I am at home. We all need a rest.

    Ag80 (9a213d)

  3. If Bush were prez the code stinkos would have been Qaddaffi’s useful idiots but now that it is Odictator doing this they are silent.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  4. Let the record reflect that I offered money for video of al-Megrahi being hauled out into the middle of the street and shot in the head…

    Scott Jacobs (d027b8)

  5. Jeremiah Wright’s chickens are coming home to roost.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  6. Oh, we know Obama is being updated, because whenever they update him on anything since he went on vacation, they issue a press statement on it.

    It’s almost as if they think we’ll believe he is working . . .

    The Qaddafi quote of the day goes to Dave-in-Texas at Ace of Spades, who mentioned his MC Hammer wardrobe effects.

    Estragon (ec6a4b)

  7. Qaddafi dodges bullets while Obama dodges cameras. Rather than be caught on film playing golf, Obama is skipping holes where the press might be able to snap photos of the leader of the free world on vacation in the manicured playground of the rich and famous.

    ropelight (179030)

  8. And we have a result:

    US/NATO 1 wingnuts 0

    Spartacvs (d05556)

  9. NO BLOOD FOR OIL. Wait a minute….

    Simon Jester (c7bf9d)

  10. Oh, and Farticvs? I know that math is hard for you, but what again was the proportion of sorties flown by NATO versus US forces? Just asking.

    Simon Jester (c7bf9d)

  11. I’m starting to believe that reading is also difficult for you. And the ironic part is how you call this blog an “echo chamber.”

    You just aren’t very smart, I guess. But boy howdy, do you have ego to spare.

    Simon Jester (c7bf9d)

  12. If we were not involved in a kinetic military action, how can he claim credit for the result?

    JD (85b089)

  13. It’s the sheer hypocrisy that amuses me. Here is a math-type question for the Innumerate Troll: how much oil does Libya produce, annually, and who buys it?

    Simon Jester (c7bf9d)

  14. Syria’s used America’s feckless bumblings-for-oil in Libya as cover to slaughter thousands. I imagine president poofter is quite proud of himself.

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  15. He is reporting for duty, Mr. Feet. Except when he is pedaling a girl’s bike through Martha’s Vineyard.

    Simon Jester (c7bf9d)

  16. Gadaffi gone, 0 US casualties & very little money spent.

    Compare & contrast with the regime change efforts of your man W.

    Spartacvs (d05556)

  17. Leading From Behind!

    Isn’t that what was once called being a coat-holder?

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (2cd90b)

  18. Isn’t Andrew Sullivan a trig truther?

    Nice to know you so called right wingers[Such as Terp Mole] are such hypocrites.

    Honestly these spineless knaves called Reagan a war criminal and are now praising his name all of a sudden

    DohBiden (d54602)

  19. there should be a period at the end of the second one.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  20. Oopps….

    THE BUSH DEMOCRACY AGENDA ROLLS ON, ACCOMPANIED BY BOMBS: W’s Third Term In The Middle East.
    “That truth is that the United States has become more powerful in the Middle East today than at any time since the early 1950s. Perhaps not since President Eisenhower’s CIA helped restore the Shah in Iran has the US loomed this large in the political calculations of Middle Eastern regimes. . . . President Obama is pushing a democracy agenda in the Middle East that is as aggressive as President Bush’s; he adopts regime change by violence if necessary as a core component of his regional approach and, to put it mildly, he is not afraid to bomb. But where President Bush’s tough guy posture (‘Bring ‘Em On!’) alienated opinion abroad and among liberals at home, President Obama’s reluctant warrior stance makes it easier for others to work with him.”

    Plus this: “In many ways we are living through George W. Bush’s third term in the Middle East, and neither President Obama’s friends nor his enemies want to admit it.”

    Posted at 12:55 pm by Glenn Reynolds

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (2cd90b)

  21. “NO BLOOD FOR OIL.”

    It’s different if an America-hating commie, like Obambi, or Muslims are shedding the blood.

    No gigantic lefty “anti-war” protests this time around.

    No grim milestones.

    No attempts by Dem politicians to sabotage the war effort (lame as it’s been) in order to further their own political ambitions. No Obambis going around talking about “dumb” wars.

    No constant release of information that ought to be kept secret.

    So, it’s all good.

    Dave Surls (3ea380)

  22. Here is some reading for Farticvs the Polite:

    http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2011/08/22/w-gets-a-third-term-in-the-middle-east/

    Since he seldom reads, I thought I would quote the best part:

    “…In many ways we are living through George W. Bush’s third term in the Middle East, and neither President Obama’s friends nor his enemies want to admit it….”

    Incidentally, I really enjoy reading that the Libyan “kinetic excursion” had zero fatalities. I guess you aren’t counting the people, well, in Libya. That was a big deal when GWB was President, as I recall.

    But it’s so…different…now.

    Simon Jester (c7bf9d)

  23. Oh, and I know numbers are challenging for you, Farticvs, but “very little money spent”?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/30/us-libya-usa-cost-idUSTRE72T6XZ20110330

    At least half a billion dollars. I guess that is chump change to a high roller like you.

    Simon Jester (c7bf9d)

  24. Simon, it’s not even a rounding-error, anymore.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (2cd90b)

  25. You aren’t wrong, AD, but my point remains that the Little Troll can’t even look things up—though that doesn’t stop him from sounding off. I guess his hands are full carrying water.

    Simon Jester (c7bf9d)

  26. “very little money spent”

    Spvrty – How much money was spent?

    We don’t know, do we?

    This non-war, war was never sent by Congress for approval, unlike Bush’s kinetic military actions.

    That means it was never in the budget. Heck, we don’t even have budgets under Obama.

    Roll out the unfunded limited duration (Ha!) kinetic military action meme!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  27. “…very little money spent.”

    Lefties and their interesting “facts”

    We’re spending more money on defense now, then we ever did under Bush II.

    Of course, we can easily afford the expense (it’s the other stuff government does that is driving us to financial ruin), but as usual lefties lie about everything.

    Dave Surls (3ea380)

  28. Surls you moron

    Compare Libya with Iraq

    Money spent, US casualties, collateral damage, time spent, or any other metric you can think of. Doesn’t look good for your man W does it?

    Spartacvs (d05556)

  29. Spurts, like all lefties, just spews self-serving lies…here’s some truths:

    Defense spending 1992: 5.5% of GDP.

    2000: 3.6% of GDP.

    2008: 5.1% of GDP (highest year under Bush II).

    2009: 5.6% of GDP.

    2010: 5.9% of GDP.

    Expenditures under Obambi and the Dems went up, more than they ever were under Bush II.

    Comparison: some peak earlier expenditures during wars the liberal Dems got us into…

    1919: 14.4% of GDP.

    1945: 42.0% of GDP.

    1953: 15.0% of GDP.

    1968: 10.4% of GDP.

    Can we afford these mini-campaigns?

    Yes, easily.

    Who spends more on wars? The “liberal” Dems…by a country mile. Always has been true…and it still is.

    Dave Surls (3ea380)

  30. See, the problem, Dave, is that Slow Troll doesn’t read, doesn’t think carefully, and just “knows” things. Except he is generally wrong. And lazy. Pathetic.

    Simon Jester (b6f1be)

  31. “Money spent, US casualties…”

    LOL.

    It’s all a drop in the bucket compared to the lives and treasure liberal Dem heroes have spent in their wars.

    Hell, for that matter, it’s a drop in the bucket compared to American lives lost and money spent during the liberal Dem created so-called Cold War.

    Far more Americans have died maintaining our garrisons in Europe and East Asia over the decades, than have died in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Dave Surls (3ea380)

  32. “Compare Libya with Iraq”

    Spvrty – Provide the numbers unbudgeted dollars for Libya.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  33. What was it that RR said, that the Left knows so much that just isn’t so.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (2cd90b)

  34. I know this much Drew. The attempt to maintain the cognitive dissonance of the President as a simultaneous foreign policy weakling and iron-fisted domestic dictator just took a big hit.

    As an aside, the sainted Ronald would be way to liberal to stand any chance of getting elected as a republican today. This ‘aint your daddy’s republican party anymore.

    Spartacvs (d05556)

  35. Being lectured to about the history of the country by a moron is a new experience that is truly special.

    Pardon me while I go heave my guts up.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (2cd90b)

  36. News Alert: Obama denounces Muammar Qaddafi’s underhanded TEA Party tactics as an un-Islamic jihad against his golf vacation. Obama maintained that just because he’s left-handed doesn’t prove that Satan guides his hand.

    ropelight (179030)

  37. ‘He really seems to care, about what I have no Idea’

    ian cormac (0bd903)

  38. Nice to know the liberals who cursed Reagans airstrike against Qaddaffi are now acting as if they have sided with him from the getgo.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  39. “I know this much Drew.”

    Actually, little troll, you don’t know anything. For example, the article I posted discusses that very issue. Too bad you already know so darned much.

    Like about how the Founders never did anything to fight slavery. Just to pick one example of your lazy foolishness.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  40. Also, folks, do keep in mind that daleyrocks pepper the little troll to prove what he asserts…and he never, ever does.

    Because either (i) he can’t or (ii) he is too frelling lazy to do any work.

    Maybe both?

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  41. Spartac please drink a cyanide milkshake.

    You idiots hated Reagan with a passion.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  42. To expand upon WRMead’s thoughts in “W Gets A Third Term…”,
    could the vitriol emanating from the Left be just their fury that everything Obama has attempted from the Progressive Playbook has been a demonstrated failure, while his few successes are extensions of Bush Policy that he campaigned against?

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (2cd90b)

  43. Opponents of nuclear power will do what when rolling blackouts occur because of their agenda?

    BTW the japanese nuclear disaster lead to how many deaths? not much.

    We should build new nuclear power plants.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  44. Comment by DohBiden in the Thomas Jefferson thread — 9/13/2011 @ 11:08 am

    Qaddaffi tried to recognize Israel but President false choices rejected it.

    He has family, or people who think they are family, in Israel, in Netanya.

    According to a story published in The Economist,
    http://www.economist.com/node/21528675. Also see
    http://xecutrix.usc.edu/news/msg389761.html.

    … his mother’s mother was a Jew who left her husband (without a divorce?) to marry a Sheik which also would mean she converted to Islam, or maybe they didn’t even bother with a formal conversion since she was a woman.

    This maybe would make him Jewish but also would make him a mamzer. But being a mamzer would not be an obstacle under the Law of Return, which I think says anybody with a Jewish grandparent can immigrate, although I think the Minister of the Interior of Israel could and would exclude him if he made such a claim and turn him over to people who want him for prosecution anyway.

    Qadaffi is reported to have attended a Jewish wedding sometime in the 1960s (well before his 1969 coup) while there were still Jews in Libya. There are apparently a number of witnesses to that, although those witnesses apparently don’t know why he was there.

    The article says a square actually has been called
    Qaddafi Plaza in anticipation of his arrival! If true, that may have been actually before (around 2009?) when he was cozying up to some Jews originally from Libya. Relations soured a bit when it developed he was not willing to offer compensation for lost property or anything.

    Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb)

  45. Actually, I think some people have bene feedinbg misinformation to the Economist. I thinbk Quaddafi would not be eligible under the law of return. I’m not sure. A Jew who converted or is a member of another religion is not eligible. However in this case it would be base don his grandmother. But she converted, or must be thought to have converted – certainly her marriage ceremony to the Sheik would have been Islamic – so no.

    Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb)

  46. He has family, or people who think they are family, in Israel, in Netanya.

    There is no evidence at all for this story. It’s been floating around since the ’70s, but there’s never been any reason to believe it. For some reason Jews make up stories like this about every antisemite. It makes us feel more powerful to contemplate that “<a href="http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1049.htm#17"our demolishers and destroyers come from within us“.

    This maybe would make him Jewish but also would make him a mamzer.

    No, it wouldn’t.

    Quaddafi would not be eligible under the law of return. I’m not sure. A Jew who converted or is a member of another religion is not eligible.

    Exactly. The statute in question specifies that for its purposes “A Jew is one whose mother is a Jew, or who has converted, and is not a member of any other religion”. If the story of his ancestry were to be verified, and he were to renounce Islam, then he would be eligible.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  47. He has family, or people who think they are family, in Israel, in Netanya.

    There is no evidence at all for this story. It’s been floating around since the ’70s, but there’s never been any reason to believe it. For some reason Jews make up stories like this about every antisemite. It makes us feel more powerful to contemplate that “our demolishers and destroyers come from within us“.

    This maybe would make him Jewish but also would make him a mamzer.

    No, it wouldn’t.

    Quaddafi would not be eligible under the law of return. I’m not sure. A Jew who converted or is a member of another religion is not eligible.

    Exactly. The statute in question specifies that for its purposes “A Jew is one whose mother is a Jew, or who has converted, and is not a member of any other religion”. If the story of his ancestry were to be verified, and he were to renounce Islam, then he would be eligible.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  48. The left now have replaced Qaddaffi an jew-hater with a bunch of jew-haters who might get extremely bad weapons.

    DohBiden (d54602)


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