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8/18/2011

Just to Keep the Rules Clear…

Filed under: General — Aaron Worthing @ 1:53 pm



[Guest post by Aaron Worthing; if you have tips, please send them here.  Or by Twitter @AaronWorthing.]

It is racist to refer to the debt as a black cloud.

But publishing this photograph is not sexist.

Just to keep the rules clear.

[Posted and authored by Aaron Worthing.]

94 Responses to “Just to Keep the Rules Clear…”

  1. They got Perry, too, but I suppose that is to reinforce the gay rumor about him.

    Anon Y. Mous (cb1134)

  2. You just published it, Mr. Rule 5.

    So what’s your point?

    Kman (5576bf)

  3. <liberal>

    See how it’s funny? Because their all a bunch of tea-baggers!

    Oooh, those stupid Repugs are never going to understand why we’re giggling…..

    </liberal>

    Pious Agnostic (291f9a)

  4. Things Presidential Candidates Are Not Allowed To Eat (Unless You’re Left-Wing, Then It’s Okay):

    * Corn dogs
    * Hot dogs
    * Dogs of any kind, come to think of it
    * Popsicles
    * Bananas
    * Carrots
    * Cucumbers
    * Fried chicken (dog whistle! racist!)
    * Watermelon (ditto)

    Anything I missed?

    Robin Munn (347954)

  5. mostly this makes me hungry

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  6. Are hotdogs advertised as “foot long” (as in the ad) really 12 inches?

    elissa (69edf1)

  7. Aaron, they ain’t got no shame.

    The ‘black cloud’ and ‘black hole’ hysterics were projection from people whose politics originate from a hateful heart. They cannot understand their opponents not having that heart.

    Bachmann, for example, has to be lampooned as a sex object because they hate her so very much. And they hate her because they assume she is hateful. For no apparent reason.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  8. It’s not as if this photo was on some obscure site, right? Yes, it was first published by the UK Daily Telegraph, but it’s been repeated at Reuters & Salon blogs. And the Perry photo too. I’m reminded of the AP photographer who took a pic of Sarah Palin getting her hair fixed by her daughter Bristol in Haiti. Bristol’s face was obscured, and the caption read something about Palin’s hair getting “done”, as if she were a diva.

    This is all deliberately done & spun by “mainstream” liberals/progressives.

    I want nothing to do with these people. I’m through. I want my country back, or I want a new country, dammit.

    Miranda (4104db)

  9. How obscene can it get! Have they no shame? $6.00 for a corn dog! Well, I swan.

    ropelight (9d80b8)

  10. Its not the hypocrisy that is so irritating, it is that their hypocrisy is brazen and they don’t even pretend to excuse it.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  11. Kind of sexy if you ask me.

    S. Carter aka J-Z (786e37)

  12. Dustin: I consider the statement “If you’re involved in the gay and lesbian lifestyle, it’s bondage. It is personal bondage, personal despair and personal enslavement” to be hateful.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  13. Fair enough, Aphrael.

    You find a statement from Bachmann to be hateful. Though she presented her view in earnest, so the legitimate way to respond is the way I already know you would: you’d use an argument. You wouldn’t sexualize her with a trashy selection of photos.

    It’s healthy, in my opinion, to get out there what people really think is wrong or right or absent of morality about homosexuality.

    Just present real opinions, and hash it out like adults. I think the statement you find hateful is doing that. It does convey deep judgment that I’d resent if used against my lifestyle. But I’d rather someone have the spine to just tell me what they really think instead of play PC about it.

    For example, I have no clue what Obama thinks of this issue, but his leadership on it is confused. It seems like he’s playing politics with it. He’s made a huge show of his Christianity, naming a memoir after a radical sermon, and then shut that whole aspect down when it was no longer relevant to his sought constituency.

    Short term, this is very convenient. Long term, I think it’s unhealthy.

    At the very least, you know that you cannot support Ms Bachmann (I’m assuming). That’s a respect she’s shown you. Small consolation, but she deserves better than this treatment, which in my opinion does go through any attractive woman’s mind before she sets out to run for office.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  14. Are hotdogs advertised as “foot long” (as in the ad) really 12 inches?
    Comment by elissa — 8/18/2011 @ 12:19 pm

    Depends on whether a man or woman wrote the ad.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (52c114)

  15. “…$6.00 for a corn dog…”
    Comment by ropelight — 8/18/2011 @ 12:44 pm

    Well, it is twice as big as a regular corn dog.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (52c114)

  16. That’s only $3 in 2008 terms.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  17. -“Are hotdogs advertised as “foot long” (as in the ad) really 12 inches?”

    Comment by elissa — 8/18/2011 @ 12:19 pm-

    8″ when I was in the business.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  18. AD–heh. I feel vindicated that at least somebody noticed my cheap attempt at stereotypical humor.

    elissa (69edf1)

  19. -Comment by Robin Munn — 8/18/2011 @ 12:13 pm-

    Scotch eggs. No one who ever wants to be taken seriously should be photographed eating Scotch Eggs.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  20. O.o…Humor, I have it….not.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  21. Hey, elissa, I’m not just “somebody”, I’ve got feelings too!

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (52c114)

  22. Are hotdogs advertised as “foot long” (as in the ad) really 12 inches?
    Comment by elissa — 8/18/2011 @ 12:19 pm

    I’ve found that sometimes “inches” is stated, when “centimeters” would have sufficed.

    Maybe they had the ruler flipped on the wrong side.. *innocent look*

    ppk_pixie (901c40)

  23. bready.jpg

    Dustin (b7410e)

  24. All in all, that corn-dog appears to be much longer than a foot.
    Perhaps it’s the John Holmes Edition?

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (52c114)

  25. She should know better at this point in the game.

    Also, her husband seems very effeminate to me.

    Anita Busch (a025dd)

  26. She should know better at this point in the game.

    I don’t know. Sounds a lot like blaming the victim.

    She’s gotta eat. I recall being at a party with Maxine Waters (I crashed it… I was a peon) and she was drunk and fell. There was a photographer and I eagerly read the paper the next day and there was no photo.

    It’s going to be a year+ of candidates on the road, eating, going to bathrooms, tripping, having hair blow in their faces.

    Yet I know, for sure, 99.999999% of Obama gaffes will not be displayed by major media operations, and many, many displays from Republicans will be.

    It’s just the way it works.

    Compare these two.

    The only thing we can do is steel ourselves against a journalism profession that hates fairness more than it hates anything else in the world.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  27. First link failed. It was a GIS for Obama Halo.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  28. You know Obama speaks Austrian right?

    S. Carter aka J-Z (786e37)

  29. She is just a stupid crazy godbotherer who deserves it and should know better, right Anita?

    JD (85b089)

  30. In fact, I practically guarantee Anita would never select this photo herself.

    I don’t think it’s really fair to ask politicians to scrutinize their diet forever to avoid being shown simulating oral sex.

    We already have a problem with a political class that self selects for some very odd people who planned for the presidency with sterile existences for most of their lives. Secrecy and weirdness. It’s practically impossible for a normal person to make it. Now they have to avoid eating x,y,z? Then their kids too, if they are female children of Republicans, I assume.

    That’s the world we live in, and frankly it ticks me off.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  31. Also, her husband seems very effeminate to me

    And if her husband were running for office, you might have a point. As it stands, you’re just being catty.

    I’m sure if I said of a male candidate’s wife that I think his wife is very butch, you would find that offensive.

    Chuck Bartowski (4c6c0c)

  32. And if I said Michelle O was masculine, some kind find that rude.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  33. But Anita and Aaron are both right. These are The Rules.

    They just are. They are stupid, evil rules. They are propaganda and directly responsible for a stupider society. That and public school teachers. If they want to convey propaganda, I want to demonize the ever-love-hell out of them.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  34. Substitute Michelle Obama’s face in place of Michele Bachmann’s in the photo above.

    That fine & dandy with you, Anita?

    Or would you be accusing the photographer & the media outlets that published the photo of …. rrraaaccciiisssmmm?

    Miranda (4104db)

  35. The only thing we can do is steel ourselves against a journalism profession that hates fairness conservatives more than it hates anything else in the world

    FTFY

    BT (74cbec)

  36. I am reminded, and I can’t remember from where, that
    our problems haven’t gotten larger, our politicians have gotten smaller.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (52c114)

  37. There’s never any shortage of things to be offended by. If it makes you feel any better, most of the folks I talked to about it were of the opinion that Shultz’s riff on the black debt cloud meant Shultz was the racist.

    But on to corndogs. This has got to be the best of that genre, in terms of effort required to produce if by no other scale.

    But for a bit of balance, there’s this one.

    On the other other hand, the shortage of Democratic corndog gobblers might just be linked to the shortage of Democratic candidates.

    Snertly (b9e636)

  38. Anyone got it on tape? If not, I’d buy Michelle Bachmann* a $6.00 corn dog just to watch her eat it.

    *or Sarah Palin, or Michelle Malkin, or Ann Coulter, or Laura Ingraham, or just about any of those blond chicks on FOX NEWS, I’m feelin’ generous.

    ropelight (9d80b8)

  39. Michele Bachmann obviously didn’t know just how mad Michelle Obama was last night.

    Islamic Rage Boy (d1c681)

  40. You wouldn’t sexualize her with a trashy selection of photos

    Certainly not. It would never occur to me that political debate should entail such behavior. I like to keep my porn and my politics separate .. and, really, the decision to sexualize Mrs. Bachmann should be *her* decision, not anyone elses, and as far as I can tell, she hasn’t chosen to go down that path, so other people shouldn’t force her down it.

    That said, I really, really dislike Mrs. Bachmann, because of comments like the one I quoted.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  41. 9.Its not the hypocrisy that is so irritating, it is that their hypocrisy is brazen and they don’t even pretend to excuse it.
    Comment by SPQR
    – What I find infuriating is that they get away with it.

    11.Dustin: I consider the statement “If you’re involved in the gay and lesbian lifestyle, it’s bondage. It is personal bondage, personal despair and personal enslavement” to be hateful.
    Comment by aphrael — 8/18/2011 @ 12:48 pm
    12.Fair enough, Aphrael.
    You find a statement from Bachmann to be hateful. Though she presented her view in earnest, so the legitimate way to respond is the way I already know you would: you’d use an argument. You wouldn’t sexualize her with a trashy selection of photos….
    Just present real opinions, and hash it out like adults. I think the statement you find hateful is doing that. It does convey deep judgment that I’d resent if used against my lifestyle. …
    At the very least, you know that you cannot support Ms Bachmann (I’m assuming). That’s a respect she’s shown you….
    Comment by Dustin — 8/18/2011 @ 12:57 pm

    I guess I agree with Dustin that there is reason to be angry and resent Bachmann for her opinions on homosexuality, but I’m not sure why you characterize her comments as “hateful” (unless that was simply the word that first came to mind in your understandable anger). One may think her comments as wrong, stupid, condescending, and patronizing, but I do not find them “hateful” in the sense of being reflective of malice.
    I imagine she would say similar things about someone who had a habit of indulging in pornography to the point it destroyed their family, whether the porn was homo or hetero in nature. The emotion behind the statement was one of concern, not one of wishing ill will. People who seek to find ways to embarass, humiliate, or denigrate someone in public are being directly hateful, wishing to damage someone’s reputation or image.

    Now, I understand that you would think that if that is Bachmann’s way of showing concern that she can keep it to herself and you want no part of it. But as Dustin said, an appropriate response would be to declare how wrong you think she is and that you don’t think one can hold office in a pluralistic society who thinks that way.

    MD in Philly (83d172)

  42. Is Patterico the only one to publish this? If so, then why blame liberals?

    AZ Bob (7d2a2c)

  43. Is Patterico the only one to publish this? If so, then why blame liberals?

    Comment by AZ Bob

    No, he’s not. And this was Aaron’s post.

    But I saw it at Huffpo and the UK Telegraph.

    Toronto Sun is in on the act as well.

    Basically, they are going out of their way to show a Republican in the absolute worst possible light, no doubt taking hundreds of thousands of photos. Meanwhile, Obama gets halos and if he stumbles or gets ketchup on his chin or something, that’s not relevant so it’s not published.

    Oh, that liberal media!

    Dustin (b7410e)

  44. I saw the name “snertly” in the recent comments, and just knew that douchenozzlery was soon to follow.

    JD (b98cae)

  45. aphrael – What I find interesting is that at a time when voters are interested more than 60:1 in jobs and the economy than gay marriage, news anchors like David Gregory and Anderson Cooper want candidates such as Michele Bachmann to spend time focusing on issues and past statements clearly not anywhere near the top of the voting public’s agenda. Meanwhile they skip trying to pin down President Obama on his evolving stance on similar issues.

    That is part of keeping the rules clear, right?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  46. what I have learned today on the internet is it’s way better to put a corn dog in your mouf than an amoeba up your nose

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  47. What I particularly like is that it looks like her left hand is picking a hair off her corn dog so as not to get in the way of the lovin’.
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    A little humor. We know if this was a Leftie their is no way the picture is even published for anyone to post.

    S. Carter aka J-Z (786e37)

  48. speaking of tasty snack foozle this is very innovative

    and not unlike a corn dog, “candy and snacks with dual-layers and multiple flavor profiles in one bite top the tasty trends for 2011…”

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  49. “what I have learned today on the internet is it’s way better to put a corn dog in your mouf than an amoeba up your nose”

    Mr. Feets – I also learned womenfolk (seriously) should not allow fracking anywhere near them because they might get an STD. A Democrat Congressperson says so.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  50. Democrats are very knowledgeable about such things Mr. daley

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  51. daley-
    I heard a clip of some comedian’s take on Obama, an African-American, too, FWIW…
    He started out something like, “I know we elected you because you were the one concerned about Global Warming and Gay Rights…but I just found out you don’t know how to balance your own check book!! I mean, if I don’t balance my check book every three weeks or so I get in trouble. Don’t you know about credit ratings? ‘Sir, you want to borrow money to buy a car with a credit rating of 340?’ I can’t get away with that, how can you get away with that!?!?”
    Although I must say the original version was generously peppered with words I was taught not to use.

    MD in Philly (83d172)

  52. Well, if I were running for president, I certainly would allow a photographer to take a picture of me eating something like that. A little common sense goes a long way.

    And, her husband is effeminate in his speech.

    Anita Busch (a025dd)

  53. Women should not be involved in politics. They have almost never been good leaders or thinkers. By their very nature they are more concerned with social status than thinking about abstract subjects. The 19th Amendment was one of the worst mistakes this country made. We should have kept 18 and repealed 19 instead.

    Chris (b0fa47)

  54. Comment by MD in Philly — 8/18/2011 @ 4:02 pm

    Bad words brought a session with Ivory Snow;
    really bad words was Lava.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (52c114)

  55. Candidates get to approve, in adance, what pictures they allow to be taken? This is the type of BS that makes people forget about your good attributes, Anita.

    JD (85b089)

  56. And, her husband is effeminate in his speech

    Meow, Anita. Seriously, this is beneath you.

    Chuck Bartowski (4c6c0c)

  57. That’s Felonius Monk, he’s much more frank than a flack like a Stewart or a Colbert

    ian cormac (81c5c2)

  58. So chris is racist and sexist?!

    JD (29e1cd)

  59. “Although I must say the original version was generously peppered with words I was taught not to use.”

    MD in Philly – Probably Felonious Munk. He has a bunch of videos up now.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  60. Yeah, whatevs Chris. We’re on to your shtick.

    elissa (69edf1)

  61. “And, her husband is effeminate in his speech.”

    Anita – Doubling down. The comment is relevant why?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  62. Corndog porn?

    Dude, that’s just wrong.

    Dave Surls (545d6e)

  63. I feel a stirring in my loins.

    stari_momak (5fd7ae)

  64. Dana just whipped a freakin Ferragamo at Chris.

    JD (85b089)

  65. ian and daley,
    That’s the name- though when I heard it I thought they said Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz musician some years ago, and was confused- now I’m getting forgetful, I should have remembered that connection… well, I enjoy posting here at PowerLine anyway…

    MD in Philly (83d172)

  66. Doc, have you counted your sponges and clamps lately?

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (52c114)

  67. Dana just whipped a freakin Ferragamo at Chris.

    *Sniff* I’m very selective about whom I whip a heel at, and while little Chris no doubt tried his hardest, it certainly fell short of the mark. Most definitely not 12″.

    Dana (4eca6e)

  68. Definitely not worth a freakin’ Ferragamo.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  69. Am I the only one who might have such a devious mind that I think that MB’s pix was an affirmative act on her part?
    She knows if she gives the press such a photo op, that the horn-dogs on the Left will just run wild with it, and her base on the Right will just find confirmation of the Media Bias that they know exists, and a lot of people on the center-left just might take the attitude of “Did you see the photo of MB with the corn-dog? Who knew?”

    Who knows?

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (52c114)

  70. 68.Am I the only one who might have such a devious mind that I think that MB’s pix was an affirmative act on her part?
    Yes. You have a future as a political consultant.

    65.Doc, have you counted your sponges and clamps lately?
    Don’t use sponges, and I’m always trying to find where the clamps are when doing a project around the house, but as far as on a human, nothing but an occasional superficial suture since residency.

    MD in Philly (16129d)

  71. The only thing funnier than those photos of M Bachman and the next Prez is the faux outrage and paranoiac delusional rantings of all the commentors in reaction to the photos.

    You poor opressed victims. Look out, MSM black helicopters are coming to take photos of you!

    EdWood (3ed8e3)

  72. Chris is an all-purpose bigot.

    Icy Texan (7760bd)

  73. That photo is a metaphor for . . . something.

    Something, methinks, about “the GOP contender gobbling up the Big Zero”.

    Icy Texan (7760bd)

  74. EdWood emerges from the tool shed.

    Icy Texan (7760bd)

  75. ________________________________________________

    Women should not be involved in politics.

    I’ll favor a conservative female over a liberal dude any day, any time.

    And, her husband is effeminate in his speech.

    I know researchers have attempted to equate various external characteristics of people with their sexuality. For example, that a high percentage of male homosexuals speak a certain way or favor Broadway show tunes (or any other stereotype), or that female homosexuals are into sports.

    But when surveys indicate that around 80-plus percent of gay people are politically of the left — which is a pretty lopsided ratio — the theory of causality really needs to start on focusing on how leftism contributes to (or triggers?) homosexual behavior, or visa versa.

    Mark (411533)

  76. Can you imagine how many votes she would get if she downed that thing in one bite?

    Icy Texan (7760bd)

  77. The only thing funnier than those photos of M Bachman and the next Prez is the faux outrage and paranoiac delusional rantings of all the commentors in reaction to the photos.

    You poor opressed victims. Look out, MSM black helicopters are coming to take photos of you!

    Comment by EdWood — 8/18/2011 @ 10:27 pm

    Sorry man, sticking your head in the sand doesn’t make you more sane.

    Liberal propaganda is real. The way it especially treats conservative women is real. It makes a huge difference at the polls, so it’s causing harm to our country.

    Either deal with it or don’t. Depends on how patriotic you are or aren’t.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  78. Depends on how patriotic you are or aren’t.

    :roll:

    Not helpful.

    carlitos (23de2b)

  79. carlitos – great clip.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  80. ”Are hotdogs advertised as “foot long” (as in the ad) really 12 inches?”

    Comment by elissa — 8/18/2011 @ 12:19 pm-

    8″ when I was in the business.

    Comment by Machinist

    Now that was damn funny!

    ColonelHaiku (d1f5ff)

  81. And, her husband is effeminate in his speech.

    Comment by Anita Busch

    Otis Chandler was fond of wearing feather boas, lingerie, black silk stockings and lipstick and was known to garfle the narthog.

    You can google it.

    ColonelHaiku (d1f5ff)

  82. :roll: only a homophobe[Means you Edwood] would find eating a corn dog perverted gayness.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  83. the faux outrage and paranoiac delusional rantings of all the commentors in reaction to the photos.

    Hyperbole much?

    JD (318f81)

  84. Re: #43 – I hope I was able to meet or exceed your expectations, JD.

    Snertly (b9e636)

  85. Burritos and rolled tacos.

    And pray tell, what does her husband being effeminate in speech have anything to do with this photo? Perhaps I’m missing something. Oh, right, Anita is a liberal.

    PatAZ (da3db7)

  86. Late to the party as usual.

    Let’s see if I can do this book-end right. (Phat chance.)

    I have stated on numerous occasions that Conservative sites need a lot more aphraels and a lot fewer Leftist blathering trolls. While it is quite rare that I ever agree with aphrael, I appreciate and respect his well-reasoned comments. They raise the bar of debate and keep us on our toes. They also help us to understand reasonable Liberals better and help us to reason with reasonable Liberals better.

    I stated early in my commenting here (in context with the article and resultant thread) that the Bible declares homosexuality an abomination — a much stronger declarative than most sinful acts and conditions. I believed homosexuality is an abomination then, I believe it now, and I will believe it till the day I die, and further, into the afterlife. As all sinful lifestyles put the people engaged in them in bondage to that sin, and homosexuality is a sinful lifestyle, the inclusive nature of the subset requires that a homosexual lifestyle puts the homosexual in bondage to that sin. It’s just the facts as they are. But, as a Christian, I also know there is a Way out of bondage. So, it’s not hate for the person (actually, it’s love for the person) but rather hate for the sin and the destruction it brings.

    As I said, I’ve written on blogs that the Bible states without doubt that homosexuality is an abomination. But I’ve written far more times — on adj Dana’s blog mostly — that I have much more respect for, and much more desire for, aphrael’s commenting and debating than the Liberal trolls that are so prevalent on many Conservative blogsites. I have known about aphrael’s lifestyle choice since nearly the beginning of my time commenting on PP, and my position regarding that has no effect on my respect for his commenting.

    I hope I book-ended that well enough. (Phat chance.)

    John Hitchcock (7af282)

  87. Very few have suggested that the term “black cloud” is racist. Those who have don’t speak for the majority of those on the left. In fact, Jon Stewart’s show made light of this very same subject, making fun of those who considered that phrase racist.

    But you are more than welcome to burn this straw-man in effigy for the hacks that read this disingenuous drivel.

    concerned citizen (639e0a)

  88. Methinks concerned citizen does not pay much attentioin to all the different things that cause leftists to shriek RACIST at conservatives.

    JD (29e1cd)

  89. Straw-man again.

    concerned citizen (639e0a)

  90. Go bugger yourself “concerned citizen”. Nobody is buying your spam act. Why not link to some more NY Times BS.

    JD (29e1cd)

  91. Republicans eat corndogs, Democrats cornhole weiner dogs.

    j curtis (c85e18)

  92. Reasonable Liberals!
    Isn’t that a new entry on the Endangered Species List?

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (bf7b3a)

  93. Reasonable liberals are a rare creature.

    DohBiden (d54602)


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