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Obama’s Waterloo?

Filed under: General — Aaron Worthing @ 8:37 am

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I was pessimistic when I read this opinion piece yesterday:

KUHNER: Obama’s Waterloo

By overreaching, the president has positioned himself for defeat

Jeffrey T. Kuhner

Republicans have a golden opportunity to break Barack Obama’s presidency, ensuring he will be a one-termer. Mr. Obama has backed himself into a corner on the debt-limit talks; the GOP can smash his re-election prospectsif they have the will – and intelligence – to do it.

Mr. Obama has asked that the nation’s $14.3 trillion debt ceiling be raised, and he knows that cannot be done without support from House Republicans. Moreover, along with Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, Mr. Obama warns that fiscal Armageddon is coming unless the ceiling is lifted before Aug. 2 – the date Mr. Geithner claims the United States begins defaulting to its debtors.

Mr. Obama seeks a “grand bargain”: a debt-reduction package that includes $1 trillion in tax increases to accompany entitlement spending cuts, including Social Security and Medicare. He wants to go big. His target is to slash $4 trillion over 10 years. He has repeatedly vowed to veto any “small” debt-limit increase – one that allows America to keep paying its bills until a more comprehensive agreement is ratified. In other words, Mr. Obama has issued an ultimatum to congressional Republicans: Either break your 2010 campaign pledge not to raise taxes or else be blamed for the debt-limit debacle. As he put it, it’s time to “eat our peas.” The president is playing Russian roulette with the economy and our nation’s future.

Yet he has badly played his weak hand. Like the dictator Napoleon Bonaparte, who sought to spread the radical French Revolution across Europe, Mr. Obama has committed a fatal mistake: overreach. The president has issued a public ultimatum that either must be upheld or he must back down from. Either way, it is Mr. Obama’s political credibility that threatens to be shattered.

And you should read the whole thing and what he wrote sounds all well and good, but… I kept thinking that there was a danger that they were underestimating Obama.  I mean didn’t someone say Healthcare would be Obama’s Waterloo?

So I thought maybe all of this was premature.  And then I read this:

Cantor said the president became “agitated” and warned the Virginia Republican not to “call my bluff” when Cantor said he would consider a short-term debt-limit hike. The meeting “ended with the president abruptly walking out of the meeting,” Cantor told reporters in the Capitol. “I know why he lost his temper. He’s frustrated. We’re all frustrated.”

Okay, I am not even on the President’s side but I feel it is necessary to do a…

Here’s a pro-tip, Mr. President.  If you don’t want someone to call your bluff, don’t tell them that you are bluffing.

Seriously, I long for the days when we had a President who knew how to play poker.

[Posted and authored by Aaron Worthing.]

226 Responses to “Obama’s Waterloo?”

  1. “how can we not love
    Obama?” asks Esquire mag
    let me count the ways

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  2. Maybe if they couched the topic in terms the President is familiar with.

    What sort of games of chance are popular in his native Kenya?

    papertiger (e55ba0)

  3. Obama wants to
    define Dims’ role and Repubs’
    oh the arrogance!

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  4. Republicans will turn any victory into a monumental defeat/retreat. The end result of this fiasco will be massive tax increases and never-to-be-seen “draconian” cuts in spending. Washington knows no other way. The never realized cuts will be used as a bludgeon for the Dems to bash Repubs for 2 more generations. It’s just how Washington works. The rest of it is merely show.

    dfbaskwill (ca54bb)

  5. Kenyan Games of Chance
    involve man lion and door
    and who reach door first

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  6. Boehner McConnell
    had better recognize they
    have so much to lose

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  7. Timothy Geithner
    will soon return to Land of
    Keeblers where he born

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  8. go back to making
    delicious crackers Geithner
    something you can do

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  9. colonel on a roll
    and not one cup o’ Joe Oh!
    the insanity

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  10. The Republicans have to stand firm but they have to figure out a way to get past the hostile press and tell the country the real story. One way might be to pass a “clean” debt ceiling increase that will last a year. Then the debate will resume just before the election. I don’t think Obama would sign such a bill, even if the Senate passed it, which is 50-50. If he vetoed the debt limit increase because it would not get us past the next election, it would be easier to pin the blame on him.

    Mike K (8f3f19)

  11. Stop your celebration people. What is happening is getting a spin by the mainstream media, water carriers for Obama. Today’s LA Times front page headline:

    “Default rick widens rift withing GOP”

    The story said that “experts” warn of great, widespread disaster if the debt ceiling isn’t raised. And then they blame a rift in the Republican side and those evil Tea Party people as being responsible for failure to solve the problem.

    You think Obama stormed out of his meeting with Rep. Cantor? Well try this headline on for size:

    “Obama ends debt meeting with warning”

    In fact, this second story, not on the front page, makes Cantor look like the bad guy because he provoked Obama by saying there is “no longer time to engage in the large-scale deficit reduction discussions the White House is now seeking as part of the vote to raise the nation’s debt ceiling.”

    You see, Obama is perfectly reasonable, they imply. Of course, they neglect to point out that Obama has given a list of his things that won’t get cut, including such idiotic projects as high-speed rail.

    Don’t you see they are going to blame the Tea Party for the default and Granny not getting her government check? Remember that shooting in Tucson? Yes, they blamed the Tea Party for that too. Never mind that earlier an Islamic terrorist shot three times that many people and we were admonished not to jump to conclusions.

    Arizona Bob (aa856e)

  12. Obama in shock
    “The time for talk is over”
    shtick is not working

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  13. don’t you call my bluff!
    this guy couldn’t even play
    poker with the dogs

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  14. How many dates has Timothy (Tax Cheat)Geithner set for financial armageddon? Now it is August 2nd? And what happens then? 60% unemployment? DJIA at 800?

    So, instead of getting real leadership from the Oval Office, we have a petulant child who never lost an election (basically because no one ever ran against him until John McCain), who got into not one, but two tony universities due to affirmative action (which Obama admitted in the Harvard Law Record), who thought that being POTUS meant date night and campaign trips on the taxpayer dime while the peons ran the White House, and now he is expected to actually act like a President? How narrow minded of us who thinks that was EXACTLY what he was elected to do.

    He must be totally lost. David Axelrod is in Chicago, planning campaign tactics, and Obama no longer has Rahm Emanual to beat Eric Cantor over the head with a dead fish.

    As to Granny not getting her SS check: how about not sending out welfare checks to dead beats living in housing we taxpayers are paying for? How about shutting down twenty of the alphabet agencies in the federal government that are useless. Close the Department of Education. Hell, school’s out now anyway. Shut down the EPA, all they do is run rough shod over states anyway. Hell, let’s cut the White House budget by slashing Michelle Antoinette’s staff by half and stop buying fuel for her to jet over to foreign countries taking her extended family (mother, counsin, nephews) with her. Joe Biden’s such a fan of AMTRAC Michelle can take that back to Chicago.

    We pull in enought tax revenues to pay M/M, SS, the Military AND the interest debt. Perhaps the wealthy Democrats, like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Ried, can throw a few millions into the tax coffers to cover the White House budget.

    retire05 (c9c4f2)

  15. Of course the media coverage is pro-Obama. Despite that, Obama seems really agitated. Maybe the GOP really has called his bluff.

    Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (5950e3)

  16. If President Obama refuses to honor Social Security, Medicare, Military and Debt repayments then it is not because of a lack of money.

    That is all the Republicans need to repeat if POTUS does not fold.

    “For the first time in its history the US Treasury under the direction of Barack Obama, POTUS, has refused to honor its most basic obligations to its most vulnerable and its most entitled simply because he is a nasty politician. Our Treasury gets a $200 billion monthly salary. Those commitments are less than $160 billion.”

    “Barack Obama has chosen instead to make payroll for Federal Government workers and abandoned all interest in helping his fellow citizens.”

    …. and even if not 100% correct who cares?

    The fact POTUS will pay food stamps to the able bodied while playing politics with Seniors and the Military will destroy him.

    Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37)

  17. “The POTUS wishes to increase the Debt Ceiling to fund his social programs and wasteful stimulus projects yet he is threatening the nation by withholding Social Security checks. There is enough money to pay seniors and military Mr President. It is OK if the able bodied, foreign countries and well connected Corporations wait a few weeks for their checks.”

    Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37)

  18. For all of his life Barack Obama has been told that respect is something he deserves. He’s the President of the United States and he is petulant when he perceives that he is not being treated with respect.

    But true respect – the respect one receives not just from sycophants but from opponents as well – that respect is EARNED.

    I know, I use the language of the private sector and I will not be understood. There really is no hope for him.

    Amphipolis (b120ce)

  19. The Republicans have been handed a victory by stoooopid and their is hang wringing over how to play the cards.

    I would blast this day and night on TV.

    “Obama and the Democrats puts Social Security payment on hold but Food Stamps are on schedule. What is wrong with the President’s priorities?”

    “Obama and the Democrats don’t make Medicare payments or Pay the National debt but they find money to pay Unionized Government Workers and Stimulus Fraud. Obama, nice words but the wrong priorities for a nation.”

    Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37)

  20. O not know that he
    gaze on Waterloo Sunset
    he don’t need no friend

    Timeslaiku (f41a99)

  21. Times try to do like
    O negotiating hard
    did not work out well

    Timeslaiku (f41a99)

  22. as long as he gaze
    on Waterloo Sunset he
    is in Paradise

    good one, timesguy!

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  23. In 2010 voters rejected Democrat candidates and sent GOP representatives to Congress in the expectation they would put a stop to outrageous government spending.

    Americans had become alarmed with GWB’s TARP bailout, and with Obama’s failed Stimulus program, his mishandling of the BP oil disaster in the Gulf, and with ObamaCare itself. Voters were particularly angry with the shabby underhanded way Nancy Pilosi and Harry Reid rammed the unwanted takeover of healthcare through Congress against the clearly expressed opposition of the vast majority of Americans.

    American voters insist their representatives in Congress and in the White House listen to the voice of the people and to behave accordingly. If an individual representative refuses to listen, they face the wrath of their constituents. If a political party refuses to listen to the clear majority of the nation’s voters, that party gets voted out of office wholesale at the first opportunity. That’s what happened to the Democrat Party in 2010.

    Now, Obama apparently thinks he’s immune from the law of voter expectations. He arrogantly continues to do exactly what he’s been doing since he took office, which is to rule like a tyrant rather than to govern like an elected leader.

    Barack Obama hasn’t got the compassion, the intelligence, or the temperament to be President of the country. He should resign and get out of the way so we can begin the task of rebuilding our economy and our representative form of self government.

    ropelight (457e23)

  24. win-win a lost art
    O look at world from window
    people look like ants

    Timeslaiku (f41a99)

  25. he’s agitated
    sooner or later he’ll hit
    ground and get found out

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  26. he’s agitated
    it’s not complicated
    he’s overrated

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  27. blind pig find acorn
    now and then but Colonel rules
    the form of haiku

    Timeslaiku (f41a99)

  28. Our little small President is a petulant child.

    JD (85b089)

  29. he’s agitated
    good evil sleep side by side
    tell me what I say

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  30. don’t step on Greta
    weak and fragile is why O
    tries to be so hard

    Timeslaiku (f41a99)

  31. It all start with spoon
    good evil sleep side by side
    one of them Be Stiff

    Timeslaiku (f41a99)

  32. Aaron, I think there’s a language mismatch. To me, and I suspect to the President, “don’t call my bluff” means “I’m not bluffing”. Which doesn’t mean he isn’t bluffing, of course; I suspect he is, and I think the Republicans should call it, but he’s not in any way telegraphing that by warning them not to.

    (This isn’t a game where, if you’re not bluffing, you want people to call your nonexistent bluff, so you wouldn’t warn them not to.)

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  33. As painful as a default would be, you do realize that it would end the progressives’ spending fantasies pretty thoroughly.

    Jeff Crump (f9f615)

  34. President, he say
    “Don’t call my bluff”; well, this time
    “don’t” really means “Dooon’t!!!”

    Texas Haiku (3ee41e)

  35. O walk out like diva
    celluloid heroes never
    feel pain never die

    Timeslaiku (f41a99)

  36. Some guys like O say
    “no” means “maybe” but Texas
    speak an awful truth

    Timeslaiku (f41a99)

  37. “Don’t call my bluff” is an expression that does not mean I am actually bluffing, but that it would be a mistake for you to assume that I am. It is a stupid expression, one that disregards the meaning of the word bluff, but there it is.

    It’s like the expression “It’s not bragging if it’s true.” Well, if you take the trouble to consider what the word “bragging” means, then, yes, it is bragging even if it is true. But, the expression still exits, as stupid as it is.

    Anon Y. Mous (b370b4)

  38. Remember when the MFM was all atwitter about Teh One’s superior temperment and demeanor?

    JD (85b089)

  39. Invoking Ronald Reagan in a meeting with Republicans to scold them? The One comparing anything he does or says with anything Reagan would have done or said in a remotely similar situation? OK, that officially crossed the line. For me, the science is settled–Obama has lost his mind.

    The press may spin and you may think you had a Reykjavik moment yesterday, Barry, but you really didn’t.

    elissa (8bb103)

  40. This is what I was referring to above concerning BO’s reference to RR just before he flounced out–

    At this point, Cantor explained, the president became “very agitated” and said he had “sat here long enough,” that “Ronald Reagan wouldn’t sit here like this” and “something’s got to give.” Obama (National Review)

    “Would Ronald Reagan be sitting here,” he reportedly asked. “I’ve reached my limit. This may bring my presidency down, but I will not yield on this.” (Politico)

    elissa (8bb103)

  41. __________________________________________

    I long for the days when we had a President who knew how to play poker.

    I long for an adult being in the Oval Office, period.

    This nation, with all its people who lean left — because they believe liberal bias is a beautiful, generous, compassionate and sophisticated thing — deserve this Banana-Republic era in US history.

    And that American Thinker essay on George W Bush, and his supposed lack of intelligence, as deemed by a variety of “sophisticates” in the MSM and elsewhere? Those sophisticates (who sneer “redneck, redneck, Tea Party, Tea Party!”) love to sidestep the fact that some of the most screwed-up, poorly educated, self-destructive, unkind (or rowdy), crime-plagued communities in America have an electorate in which surveys reveal that up to 90-plus percent of people blindly favor liberals, blindly love Democrats—and will vote for “intelligent” politicians like Gore, Kerry or Obama, no matter what.

    Mark (411533)

  42. ____________________________________________

    The following is so ridiculous and stupid, it goes beyond ideological parameters. IOW, it seems absurdly irresponsible and idiotic even by the standards of people of the left. Why it hasn’t caused a stir is beyond me. But it does reflect the mentality and intelligence of the current White House:, July 8, 2011:

    In what could be a repeat of the easy-lending cycle that led to the housing crisis, the Justice Department has asked several banks to relax their mortgage underwriting standards and approve loans for minorities with poor credit as part of a new crackdown on alleged discrimination, according to court documents reviewed by IBD.

    Prosecutions have already generated more than $20 million in loan set-asides and other subsidies from banks that have settled out of court rather than battle the federal government and risk being branded racist. An additional 60 banks are under investigation, a DOJ spokeswoman says.

    Settlements include setting aside prime-rate mortgages for low-income blacks and Hispanics with blemished credit and even counting “public assistance” as valid income in mortgage applications.

    In several cases, the government has ordered bank defendants to post in all their branches and marketing materials a notice informing minority customers that they cannot be turned down for credit because they receive public aid, such as unemployment benefits, welfare payments or food stamps.

    “It’s absolutely outrageous after what we’ve just gone through,” said former Rep. Ernest Istook, a Heritage Foundation fellow. “How can someone both be financially stable enough to merit a mortgage at the same time they’re on public assistance? By definition, you don’t have the kind of employment that can support such a loan.”

    Obama and his people need to be exiled to Elba, ASAP.

    Mark (411533)

  43. If you try

    Robin Munn (347954)

  44. To call my bluff

    Robin Munn (347954)

  45. Mark, that is outrageous. Unfortunately I don’t believe these decisions were taken at the political level, which will change after the next election, but by the career DOJ employees, who are supposed to be immune from the political cycle. The next Republican Attorney General must take the lid off the career DOJ staff and fire everyone involved in these decisions, tenure or no tenure, and union contract or no union contract. They no longer have the excuse of thinking it will all work out; they know what a disaster this policy caused before, and yet continue to enforce it.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  46. I will fold

    Robin Munn (347954)

  47. Like a cream puff

    Robin Munn (347954)

  48. Obama Shave

    Robin Munn (347954)

  49. The One comparing anything he does or says with anything Reagan would have done or said in a remotely similar situation?

    Yeah, he’s really bad about showing self awareness. He thinks he’s Abraham Lincoln or Ronald Reagan, while he exploits a potential crisis specifically to remove a political liability until after his re-election.

    He couldn’t be more selfish. He couldn’t post as more self-less.

    Is he crazy, Elissa? I think he’s overwhelmed for sure. I think that’s why the radicals around him have had so much say. But he’s also a radical. In the back of his head is Cloward-Piven telling him that the worst case scenario is that he’s the architect of ‘reform’.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  50. Darn, WordPress wouldn’t let me post those rapid-fire (“You’re posting too fast. Slow down.”) and so another comment snuck into the middle. But you get the idea.

    Robin Munn (347954)

  51. There are too many people who do not associate our shared economic malaise with the democrat party’s progressive policies. I think that until a “generational” event like the Great Depression occurs nothing will cure people of their progressive fantasies and our situation will not improve.

    I’m not really a gloomy person, but so far nothing has changed since Patterico began discussing the whole public debt situation.

    Jeff Crump (f9f615)

  52. Mark, that is absolutely insane. I don’t know what else to say. It’s socialism.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  53. Colonel left times guy
    in dust with Devo and Kinks
    on to English Beat

    Timeslaiku (f41a99)

  54. If you should try
    to call O’s bluff
    you’ll see his @$$
    walk out in a huff

    Times Shave (f41a99)

  55. “This may bring my presidency down”

    One can only hope.

    Dave Surls (7c55e5)

  56. “It’s not bragging if it’s true.” Comment by Anon Y. Mous — 7/14/2011 @ 8:49 am

    I’ve always said that that should be, “It’s bragging only if it’s true, otherwise it is lying.”

    Have Blue (dbbcd4)

  57. I hope he resigns in disgrace.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  58. ____________________________________________

    Unfortunately I don’t believe these decisions were taken at the political level, which will change after the next election

    I left out portions of that article that mentioned the current Attorney General — an appointee of Obama — namely the ultra-liberal Eric Holder. I’m quite sure a good portion of the bureaucracy of the Justice Department in 2011 reflects the mindset of its boss and, in turn, the leftist atmosphere in DC promoted by the White House.

    Speaking of a situation that often results in a lack of ethics, common sense and integrity…, July 14:

    President Obama would frequently make the case for universal healthcare with a heart-rending story about his mother battling terminal cancer and wondering whether her health insurance would cover it.

    A new book by a New York Times reporter casts doubt on the anecdote, suggesting that it was a disability claim rather than cancer treatment that was disputed.

    “Ann’s compensation for her job in Jakarta had included health insurance, which covered most of the costs of her medical treatment,” Janny Scott writes in “A Singular Woman: the Untold Story of Barack Obama’s Mother.” “Once she was back in Hawaii, the hospital billed her insurance company directly, leaving Ann to pay only the deductible and any uncovered expenses, which, she said, came to several hundred dollars a month.”

    That seems to contradict the statements Obama would make while stumping, including a 2007 claim that “in the last month of her life, she wasn’t thinking about how to get well, she wasn’t thinking about coming to terms with her own mortality, she was thinking about whether or not insurance was going to cover the medical bills and whether our family would be bankrupt as a consequence.”

    The White House did not deny the account, suggesting that Obama may not have been able to accurately recall something that happened over a decade ago.

    Mark (411533)

  59. I guarantee some of those lines were prepared in advance, especially the one where he compared himself to Reagan, and the one where he said this may bring my presidency down. Scripted BS.

    JD (85b089)

  60. racist!

    Times Disliker (f41a99)

  61. Teh Won’s skin is soo thin you could read the fine-print created by a “Philadelphia Lawyer” through it by candlelight.

    And now, we have Jay Carney brow-beating the WHPC over shouted questions at pix-opps.

    You have to wonder just when will the media finally wake up to the realization that they have been promoting, and protecting, a fraud that will ultimately do them (and us) harm?

    For the media, it is long past time for a “Come to Jesus” moment.

    AD-RtR/OS! (317be7)

  62. Let the jumped up affirmative action hire not pay the bondholders, active military, veterans pensions and social security. The republicans ought and I would hope so impeach him and the treasury secretary. Let the senate democrats make fools of themselves on national TV defending the indefensible. And when they pass the bill to impeach him in the house also pass a bill to privatize social security, repeal the Wagner and Davis-Bacon Acts,repeal Obamacare and eliminate the dept. of education, HUD, NEA,PBS,NPR and most of the LBJ great society disaster along with eliminating every deduction and credit that benefits the mostly democrat parts of the country. Lets see the democrats pretzel logic themselves to death why some tax hikes are good (rich evil republicans) others bad (rich good progressives). A great time will be had by all.

    cubanbob (409ac2)

  63. Obama is acting desperate, it’s obvious.

    This ‘crisis’ purely of Obama’s own making is laying bare the inherent in-sustainability of all the ‘progressives’ harebrained schemes… and they’re absolutely freaking out

    Reaganite Republican (c90bca)

  64. So if by asserting “they” would not have done this to Ronald Reagan, is he pulling out the race card?

    I was raised black and that is what that means to me.

    Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37)

  65. #61, Republicans are not smart enough yet to do that. Too many Country Clubbers still around like Grassley, Snowe, McCain, McConnell etc….

    Hell they don’t even need to write the bill, you can pass it with a cover sheet and “promises” to have the agencies “write the administrative code.”

    Remebah, you gotta pass it to know what is in it.

    ** but sadly our Republicans are not that smart and don’t have an ounce of real courage. Maybe if they had spent a few years in Cuba — they could muster the cojones to do the right thing.

    Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37)

  66. According to the survey, released on Thursday (today), 48% of Americans say they will blame Republicans, not President Obama, if the country’s debt limit is not raised. 34% said they would blame Mr. Obama rather than the GOP.

    “Maybe the debt ceiling was the wrong place to pick a fight, as it related to trying to get our country’s house in order,” – Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) on the Senate floor today.

    Cantor, Boehner, and McConnell voted yes everytime to raise the debt ceiling under Bush.


    “By a wide margin, more Americans blame former President George W. Bush for the national economic outlook than they do President Barack Obama, according to a new poll.

    54% of Americans say Bush is to blame for exploding the federal deficit and swelling unemployment, whereas just 27% believe it is President Obama’s fault.

    Bad news for Republicans, who are hoping to hang the nation’s poor economic state around the president to defeat him in 2012.

    It’s obvious, the public is not with the GOP.

    President Obama defied a sluggish economy to collect a whopping $86 million for his re-election campaign and the Democratic Party in the past three months, shattering his fundraising goal and establishing dominance over the field of Republicans vying to oust him.

    By contrast, Mitt Romney, the top fundraiser so far in the Republican field, collected $18.25 million during the same period.

    Robert (8dd059)

  67. Robert, why no hyperlink?

    Why the desperate effort to repeatedly tell us the public isn’t with the GOP?

    Seems very forced.

    And btw, no kidding a crony incumbent president is raising more money than one of many primary candidates. The Democrat party is the party if big money and corruption. So what?

    Obama’s losing against a generic republican by a huge margin. Imagine how bad he’ll lose against a candidate who actually makes a case for himself.

    Your surveys won’t work, because Obama owns the recession.

    54% of Americans say Bush is to blame for exploding the federal deficit and swelling unemployment, whereas just 27% believe it is President Obama’s fault.

    Frankly, this survey, which again, you can’t link, seems like a desperate effort to distract people from reality. Whoever thinks this is an idiot, and the truth will be very easy to illustrate.

    See ya around, ‘Robert’.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  68. #65 You would think the mid-terms never happened according to those numbers.

    Where did they take those polls? East Village or the Castro?

    Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37)

  69. American voters disapprove 56 – 38 percent of the way President Barack Obama is handling the economy, but by 45 – 38 percent they trust the president more than congressional Republicans to handle the economy, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.;&strTime=0

    Robert (8dd059)

  70. Powers/Robert/Yelverton et al, amusing that you don’t want to discuss how you got discredited in the last thread you infested.

    And we also see that “blame” is all the Democrats are interested in. Not an adult behavior.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  71. The pie chart is a lie, like all of Robert/Powers/Yelverton’s dishonest links.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  72. Robert–Have you reproduced? Do you have no concern about the bankrupt American nation today’s children and their children will inherit and will have to bail out? It certainly looks as if you are much more concerned with the 2012 election than you are with survivability of the good old USA. Oh, and does the “target” of collecting 1 Billion dollars to spend on Obama’s re-election campaign possibly seem a little excessive–even to you? 1 billion on a freaking political campaign when the average American is struggling in ways they never dreamed possible? Inquiring minds want to know.

    elissa (8bb103)

  73. You would think the mid-terms never happened according to those numbers.

    Good point, spongebob. But I don’t think Yelverton believes what he’s saying. He hates us, and hates the potency of the Tea Party and the failure of Obama. He is partly hoping he can demoralize us, but his repetition of an argument that failed many times suggests to me he’s just lashing out.

    Elisa’s point, which is basically ‘have you no decency’ seems particularly appropriate.

    We are stealing from our kids. If you want to bash the Bush era’s debt, you can. the right largely did for years. But Obama’s much worse, so bashing Bush’s deficit to defend Obama’s strikes me as placing politics over honesty and your country. And our kids.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  74. Mitch McConnell tore into the Obama administration today. Me likey.

    I was truly hopeful that the President could be persuaded to view the upcoming debt limit vote as an opportunity to cut Washington spending and the debt that has ballooned since he took office, and to preserve entitlements at the same time. But in the end, he just wasn’t interested in doing something of that magnitude that would pass. He really gave us three bad choices: higher taxes, smoke and mirrors, or default. And we refuse to accept any of them. Republicans will not be reduced to being the tax collectors for the Obama economy. We won’t be seduced into calling a bad deal a good deal. And we won’t let the White House fool around with the full faith and credit of the United States. If the President wants to threaten seniors or veterans or rattle the world economy by pretending he can’t pay our bills, he of course can do that. But he is not going to implicate Republicans in these efforts,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said.

    Video posted at RCP.

    elissa (8bb103)

  75. From National Public Radio website, this illustrates just how unserious the Democrats are:

    SPQR (26be8b)

  76. Rasmussen poll shows quite different results than the one willie the racist plagiarizing gender-bending hilljack was yammering on about.

    JD (85b089)

  77. MEMO TO: ‘Commodore Decker’ Cantor

    Decker: “You’re bluffing.”
    Spock: “Vulcans never bluff. …”

    Americans elected a ‘Mr. Spock,’ Eric.

    DCSCA (9d1bb3)

  78. Democratic Underground Poll shows Americans are 99% blaming the GOP for Obama’s deficit! They will reelect Obama 112% vs Ron Paul’s 84%!

    Also, 93% of Americans blame Bush for 9/11!

    /reality based

    Dustin (b7410e)

  79. SS is a fraud.

    How long before the ponzi scheme threatens to disembowel the economy?

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  80. Americans elected a ‘Mr. Spock,’ Eric.

    Comment by DCSCA

    They elected a guy who promised never to raise the debt ceiling, actually. That’s who Obama promised he was. He promised to cut spending and taxes, too.

    What a liar. The idea he’s cerebral is totally undermined by his inability to give a speech without a prompter, Ron Burgundy style, and his inability to focus on his job for three days straight without a vacation or golf. He can’t even sit through a meeting with people he disagrees with without spouting off with ‘I won!’ or just running out of the room.

    This is not an isolated thing. He flees meetings all the time. Americans elected an idea of a man, and Obama doesn’t live up to it at all.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  81. DCSCA is ignorant.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  82. IMP never never never fails to beclown himself. I bet he pantsed himself in grade school.

    JD (b98cae)

  83. Dustin – Remember all the bibble babble about his superior judgment and temperment, that made him uniquely qualified for the job?

    JD (85b089)

  84. Will DSCSA accuse Cantor of dual loyalties like Charles of the Johnson?

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  85. Remember all the bibble babble about his superior judgment and temperment, that made him uniquely qualified for the job?

    Comment by JD — 7/14/2011 @ 3:34 pm

    Yes, he was a community organizer who represented ACORN in court, then he voted present, and then he… ran a presidential campaign.

    But we were supposed to trust this man with the White House because of his temperament. And moderation.

    The guy who flees a room demanding people not call his bluff?

    It’s sadder that he was elected than that he behaves this way.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  86. Awww…poor Prez RumpleThinSkin. Gone from “No Drama Obama” to (I shameless stole this from Iowahawk) “don’t make me petulant, you won’t like me when I’m petulant”…so now he’s The Sulk.

    Sure sure…raise the ceiling, hike taxes, get a verbal pinky swear on the deficit spendaholics anonymous program..what could possibly go wrong?

    ppk_pixie (7a67da)

  87. Did DSCSA say Obama is an alien? Is he a Birther then?

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  88. ” The Sulk”

    That made me snogglesnort a bit.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  89. #89

    Mac- I can’t take credit for it- read it on Iowahawk’s twitter feed…made me laugh. That man is just hilarious.

    Prez Priaprism, on the other…ahem…hand, is not.

    ppk_pixie (7a67da)

  90. You were properly clear on your source, but I first saw it in your comment. Thank you for the laugh, Ma’am.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  91. Read this article: Game over

    Robert (4f434b)

  92. Disco Stu (no surprise here) mangled his reference to one of the best ST:TOS episodes.

    Not only do Vulcans never bluff, they also never announce (or, to be charitable, pretend to announce) that they are bluffing.

    What Obama in effect said was “If you call my bluff, then I will have to stop bluffing!” Put another way, “If you back me up against a wall I’m gonna use that wall as a substitute for my jellyfish spine.” So watch out! Kitten might grow claws.

    In the meantime, of course, it’s just Eric “screw you guys, I’m going home!” Cartman.

    Icy Texan (3ee41e)

  93. It’s amusing how the left will run crazy with a poll they like, and if they see one they don’t, it’s proof of a conspiracy (see Rasmussen).

    ‘Robert’, who had a different name yesterday before you had to change it in shame again, 2010 is proof you’re wrong. Push polls won’t save Obama. That is a pretty desperate move.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  94. Read this. Yelverton is pathetic. Game over.

    JD (306f5d)

  95. I say um um um
    Barack Hussein Obama
    um um um um UM!

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  96. Robert ignores the tax increase already built in to ObamaCare that most Americans have not paid attention to because the liberal media has hushed them up. Obama broke his pledge about taxing the middle class with that bill since some of the new taxes do not just apply to the rich.

    How much does it tax to satisfy these redistributionists?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  97. Take not tax

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  98. LOL! Obama

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  99. BIG zero better
    raise money cuz it’ll take
    lots to spread The Lies

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  100. “hey… don’t call my bluff!”
    bluster or plea for mercy?
    HA! you be the judge

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  101. Let’s npt pretend that “robert” isn’t the 5632551256222512nd version of Yelverton.

    JD (85b089)

  102. Waterloo could not
    escape if I wanted to
    whoa whoa whoa whoa O

    Times Disliker (f41a99)

  103. no lefties with brains?
    yelverton you imbecile!
    now release the hounds

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  104. JD, if it is this person, why doesn’t he post under his own name? Why the constant changing of names? Seems odd.

    Simon Jester (2fac58)

  105. Stonewall Jackson say
    everybody has to pay
    meet your Waterloo

    Times Disliker (f41a99)

  106. D’OH! times guy plays
    ABBA card but Bahney Fwank
    the real Dancing Queen

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  107. Be sure to block out some time tomorrow morning to watch Zero’s presser. He’s taking it to the American people. Can you stand the excitement? The anticipation?

    elissa (8bb103)

  108. Obama take it
    to American people
    take it to the chin

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  109. got name for new band
    The Lying Obamas or
    Hot Poop can’t decide

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  110. Nation getting sick
    of hearing Obama talk
    all about himself

    elissa (8bb103)

  111. Obama will never have a Waterloo as long as the media covers for him. The best Republicans can hope for is that Obama will lose in 2012, which will no doubt result in complaints he was cheated like Al Gore — only with allegations of racism and bigotry added to the mix. And given the immaturity of his staff, the complaints and whining will never end.

    DRJ (fdd243)

  112. Obama’s spokesman thinks that having to vote again on a debt ceiling limit is worse that a default.

    The Democrats really are showing that their political stunts are more important than the reality of the nation’s finances. Blame more important that working on fixing it. That’s why the President walked out.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  113. He say Reagan not
    sit there but I think O meant
    Ron Junior dance boy

    elissa (8bb103)

  114. Decker: “You’re bluffing.”
    Spock: “Vulcans never bluff. …”

    Americans elected a ‘Mr. Spock,’ Eric.

    Comment by DCSCA — 7/14/2011 @ 3:18 pm

    Try Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, DCSCA. Perhaps you remember this exchange beteen Spock and Lt. Saavik when they rescued Kirk and Co. from being stranded:

    Saavik (to Spock): Then you lied?
    Spock: I exaggerated, Lieutenant.

    Your Mr. Spock President is a serial exaggerator.

    (I knew my geekdom would come in handy at some point.)

    JVW (39c649)

  115. That’s amazing, SPQR.

    And I think you, Dustin and JD are right about Robert’s identity.

    DRJ (fdd243)

  116. DRJ, that is really juvenile. It reminds me of an office prank by 23 year olds. But this is our White House discussing banning the one media outlet that doesn’t carry their water.

    Your warning about screaming Obama was cheated out of reelection in certainly accurate.

    As is your claim the media is really helping Obama win a PR war. But I don’t think they can help him enough. Maybe Obama won’t have a Waterloo, but unless he can turn the economy around he is not going to be reelected. And playing games like this is certainly not going to turn the economy around.

    Obama’s strategy is to create a complex narrative where he can share blame for a failure, because he appears to have given up hope of saving the economy (sadly, I think he knows that if we cut spending the economy would do pretty well quickly, but he’s so stubborn).

    The average voter just knows this is Obama’s watch and the economy is doing poorly. They don’t even know the GOP runs the House. They will not give Obama a pass.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  117. My juvenile comment refers to DRJ’s link regarding WH staff behavior.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  118. Def Leppard cover
    Waterloo Sunset so sad
    times guy cryonics

    Times Disliker (f41a99)

  119. Q: What do Rahm Emmanuel and Ronnie Jr. have in common, other than the obvious, that they are two mendacious, leftwing weezuls?

    A: Both are former ballerinas

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  120. Well Respected Man
    All Day And All Of The Night
    Stop Your Sobbing O

    Timeslaiku (f41a99)

  121. props to elissa

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  122. Chew on this for a while…

    The Teavangelicals are going down.

    By contrast…

    President Obama’s reelection arm raised a record $86 million from April to June, illustrating strong enthusiasm among Democrats and providing the president with enough money to set up extensive campaign operations more than a year before Election Day.

    Obama’s total dwarfs the amount raised by Republican Mitt Romney, who with $18.5 million led the field of candidates vying to take on the president.

    Robert (d34162)

  123. you rilly got me
    going thru Kinks catalog
    times guy I tell you

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  124. where’s my “Muswell Hillbillies”?

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  125. William (Robert) you posted that exact same comment earlier.

    Yes, the incumbent president out raised a single candidate in a crowded primary. So what? The democrat party is the party of crony capitalism and corruption. No one is surprised they raise all the money. They are the party of limo liberal millionaires.

    I mean, for God’s sake, you’re comparing his donations to the donations to Sarah Palin, who isn’t even running for anything. Do you realize how pathetic that is?

    Dustin (b7410e)

  126. colonel got something
    you can chew on yelverton
    meaty beaty BIG

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  127. DRJ–

    I agree the media continues to cover for him and trash his rivals. He, and his staff, and his surreal cabinet of (mostly) incompetents continue to spin and outright lie on topic after topic. He still has supporters blinded by his hope and change slogan. But I honestly think the public as a whole and even many in the media have a much better handle on him now than before the 2008 election. Everyone’s a bit more savvy to his tics and pathologies and idiosyncrasies. He’s starting to be the subject of cutting political cartoons and a few comedians. Early on, cartoonists were too scared of being charged with racism to dig in. These are all subtle differences since 2008, but I do see them. Baby steps, I guess.

    elissa (8bb103)

  128. I recall the GOP was dramatically underfunded compared to the democrat party in 2010 too, Yelverton. Desperately, the hyperrich and corrupt tried to beat a grassroots operation. They failed.

    The National Republican Congressional Committee, the key cog in helping to finance GOP campaigns, has banked less than a third as much money as its Democratic counterpart and is ending the year with barely enough money to fully finance a single House race …The DCCC [Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee] outraised the NRCC this year by more than $18 million …The NRCC has only $4.3 million left in its campaign account─with more than $2 million in debt─leaving it with just a pittance to fund the dozens of races it hopes to aggressively contest. The DCCC, meanwhile, is sitting on a $15.3 million nest egg.

    From politico, so no link.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  129. but not to worry
    yelverton it just double
    bag Costco® jerky

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  130. Ray Davies know
    why she walked like a woman
    but talked like a man

    Timeslaiku (f41a99)

  131. Obama “presser”?
    just more mindless swooning
    and softball questions

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  132. It’s interesting how frequently Obama invokes Reagan. According to Time, he and his supporters have been comparing Obama to Reagan since 2006, at least. But the comparison is based on style, not substance, and Obama apparently thinks his role is to correct Reagan’s mistakes about the role of government.

    As for whether Obama admires Reagan, he explained his feelings in this excerpt from the Audacity of Hope (via The Beachwood Reporter):

    [A]s disturbed as I might have been by Ronald Reagan’s election in 1980, as unconvinced as I might have been by his John Wayne, Father Knows Best pose, his policy by anecdote, and his gratuitous assaults on the poor, I understood his appeal.

    It was the same appeal that the military bases back in Hawaii had always held for me as a young boy, with their tidy streets and well-oiled machinery, the crisp uniforms and crisper salutes. It was related to the pleasure I still get from watched a well-played basketball game, or my wife gets from watching reruns of The Dick Van Dyke Show. Reagan spoke to America’s longing for order, our need to believe that we are not simply subject to blind, impersonal forces but that we can shape our individual and collective destinies, so long as we rediscover the traditional virtues of hard work, patriotism, personal responsibility, optimism, and faith.

    That Reagan’s message found such a receptive audience spoke not only to his skills as a communicator; it also spoke to the failure of liberal government, during a period of economic stagnation, to give middle-class voters any sense that it was fighting for them. For the fact was that government at every level had become too cavalier about spending taxpayer money. Too often, bureaucracies were oblivious to the cost of their mandates. A lot of liberal rhetoric did seem to value rights and entitlements over duties and responsibilities. Reagan may have exaggerated the sins of the welfare state, and certainly liberals were right to complain that his domestic policies titled heavily toward economic elites, with corporate raiders making tidy profits throughout the eighties while unions were busted and income for the average working stiff flatlined.

    Nevertheless, by promising to side with those who worked hard, obeyed the law, cared for their families, and loved their country, Reagan offered Americans a sense of a common purpose that liberals seemed no longer able to muster. And the more the critics carped, the more those critics played into the role he’d written for them – a band of out-of-touch, tax-and-spend, blame-America-first, politically correct elites.

    Reagan had liberals pegged, and sometimes I wonder if that’s part of Obama’s frustration with Republicans and his ambivalence toward Reagan and other bitter, clingy Americans.

    DRJ (fdd243)

  133. c’mon times guy no!
    my eyes! MY EYES!!! will never
    be the same again

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  134. Yelverton is in one of his manic phases.

    JD (306f5d)

  135. More theatrics. Do you really believe a professional community organizer didn’t plan these meetings and practise this. His intent is clearly to let the default happen. He needs to be seen as strong, forceful — a man with something besides arugula in his underwear.

    This is just a replay of the Clinton government shutdown. The narrative is being set; the MSM drums and dolts are all sychronized. The first “news” of the day will be how Granny Sally died in ER due to Boehner and those rich-loving GOP bankers.

    Oh, and remember, be all in cash in a couple of weeks and be ready to do a Buffett.

    cedarhill (8d027a)

  136. DRJ – How very racist of you. Denounced and condemned.

    JD (b98cae)

  137. there’s no such thing as gratuitous assaults on the poor

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  138. You criticized Obama?


    /Nancy Pelousy the red queen

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  139. I’m starting to think that one of the more likely scenarios for next year is Obama loses and the Dems retake the House and keep the Senate. What would happen then is unfortunately nothing could get done but the Pubbie gets blamed for the economy.

    Gerald A (9d78e8)

  140. Nah.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  141. “Robert”, how is SarahPAC raising $1.6M a bad result? What are you comparing it to? How much did you expect it to raise? $1.6M seems a pretty good result to me; the PAC covered its expenses during a period when it did very little fundraising, and even put a bit aside; unlike the government.

    And yeah, all 0bama’s cronies to whom he’s funneled millions of our dollars have given him the max they’re allowed to. What does that prove, except that he’s corrupt? Meanwhile the Republicans haven’t got a candidate yet, so all the people wanting to give to 0bama’s challenger will have to wait until one has been chosen. Then we’ll see how much she raises.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  142. I’m starting to think that one of the more likely scenarios for next year is Obama loses and the Dems retake the House and keep the Senate

    That’s what will certainly happen if the GOP backs down and lets 0bama get away without serious and enforceable spending cuts.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  143. That’s what will certainly happen if the GOP backs down and lets 0bama get away without serious and enforceable spending cuts.

    If they DO get the spending cuts then you get NY-26 all over the country. The Dems scare the seniors and pick up lots of seats, but people vote for the Republican because they see Obama as incompetent. It would be similar to the old election patterns of 30-50 years ago.

    Gerald A (9d78e8)

  144. I mean vote for the Republican Presidential candidate.

    Gerald A (9d78e8)

  145. Ronnie Jr strongly resents being called a “former” ballerina!

    Icy Texan (3ee41e)

  146. So, while the Arab world thinks that Obama is worse than Bush (what happened to Yelverton’s fondness for polling?) …

    Republicans defend gays in the military against the Obama administration’s attempts to keep expelling open gays. Note that my little spin is still more honest than Yelverton’s treatment of links.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  147. Obama’s total
    dwarf has been elected appointed da
    mayor of ChiTown

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  148. :roll: Gotta love the lack of confidence.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  149. If they DO get the spending cuts then you get NY-26 all over the country. The Dems scare the seniors and pick up lots of seats,

    If you’re right then the Congressional GOP is doomed no matter what they do, so they may as well go down for doing the right thing rather than the wrong one. There’s no point in winning elections if you’re just going to behave like Democrats. Let the real Ds do that.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  150. so they may as well go down for doing the right thing rather than the wrong one.

    Amen. The idea the GOP can’t cut spending because they would get blamed, and if they don’t, they get blamed for the deficit, and also, let’s blame them for unemployment too… it gets a little old.

    I know they need to play politics to an extent, but we all know spending is far too high. It’s clear we cannot afford current entitlement programs. Give the American people a clear choice between getting that fixed or the Obama juggling of problems unsolved.

    I can’t say I know the American people will support doing the right thing. Murkowski beating Miller has greatly changed my prediction of how ready we are to be responsible. But the GOP can’t survive by being a state expanding party. They should fear the Tea Party more than the democrat one.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  151. What about McConnell’s option? It lets Republicans avoid the government shutdown trap, but is the price worth it if Obama’s spending cuts are a sham and it lets Obama raise the debt limit repeatedly between now and the election? There are real risks to kicking the can down the road like this, but sometimes kicking the can is all you’ve got.

    DRJ (fdd243)

  152. if Obama’s spending cuts are a sham

    They surely would be. You’d have to blatantly write, in 100 ways, that he can’t call a tax hike a spending cut, too.

    But while I initially resented the hell out of McConnell’s plan, I actually think it’s one of the least bad options we have.

    It’s hard to ignore that if Obama isn’t bluffing (And whether he realizes it, his administration is certainly not bluffing) then a lot of Americans will probably suffer for it. Now isn’t the time to screw up the economy any worse.

    I think most Tea Partiers can accept that we do not have sufficient political power for real reform as long as democrats control the WH and Senate. Kicking the can down the road until that changes is not optional.

    But if taxes are raised, all bets are off.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  153. Comment by DRJ — 7/14/2011 @ 8:31 pm

    There’s another potential option in which the House votes to raise the debt limit, but only by the amount needed to make the interest payments. Any other spending that Obama needs (i.e., to avoid a government shutdown) will have to be found by extracting savings from another government programs. Kevin Williamson writes about this over at the Corner. I don’t know enough to opine on whether this is Constitutional or not, but it is an intriguing idea.

    JVW (39c649)

  154. Has the MFM called Teh One out on his LIE about SS checks being at risk?

    JD (318f81)

  155. I cannot imagine OConnell’s plan ever even being voted on in the House.

    JD (318f81)

  156. ==Has the MFM called Teh One out on his LIE about SS checks being at risk?==

    JD, I suspect you already know the answer to that question, but you’re so cute when you’re viciously snarky and we all appreciate it very much.

    elissa (8bb103)

  157. There’s no balanced budget to be had what justifies Eric Cantor’s shocking impudence.

    Obama was genuinely offended and who can blame him.

    You don’t just up and offer someone a compromise like that I don’t care who you are.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  158. I don’t understand Kevin’s proposal, via JVW.

    We can meet our debt payments without a debt ceiling increase, if we do not pay some of the other expenses.

    My one concern is that we do not hike taxes with the economy in this state.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  159. How’s it been, Happyfeet?

    The media is really out to trash Cantor recently, I’ve noticed. This is how it always works. Any time the dems are having a bad time, they have to find some republican to demonize. Young ‘unseasoned’ Cantor, speaking out of turn in the face of our great Emperor in his awesome clothes.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  160. I don’t understand Kevin’s proposal, via JVW.

    I think the reason it doesn’t resonate with thinking people is because it is so blatantly political. The GOP somehow calls Obama’s bluff by saying, “OK, we agree to raise the debt limit in order to make interest payments on the debt, but that’s all.” Supposedly then, Obama has to actually implement program cuts in order to get the money to meet Social Security obligations. It’s gimmicky, but I guess the idea is that it removes the specter of debt default as this catastrophic event.

    And of course, Obama’s allies in the media would figure out a way to spin this as Eric Cantor’s fault. Or Michelle Bachmann, if they can figure out how to connect those dots.

    JVW (39c649)

  161. How dare Eric Cantor not go along with Obama.

    Are you surprised at Crappyfeet’s arrogance?

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  162. The GOP somehow calls Obama’s bluff by saying, “OK, we agree to raise the debt limit in order to make interest payments on the debt, but that’s all.”

    Yeah, I see. They just shut down one of the most damaging bluffs being made by Obama.

    So what if I think it’s not really necessary? It’s politics.

    I have no objection to that. I worry it’s too late to avoid some kind of major shutdown. I just hope the troops get paid (I believe Kevin suggested we just legislate that as well, which we should).

    I don’t know what to make of any of this. Obama needs the economy to turn around more than he needs any stunt to screw with the GOP. his behavior is not doing the economy any good. You’d think someone in his administration would remember why Bill Clinton was reelected.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  163. The GOP somehow calls Obama’s bluff by saying, “OK, we agree to raise the debt limit in order to make interest payments on the debt, but that’s all.”

    I am totally cool with this. Th House should pass this tomorrow. Then the next day, 2.5trillion in actual cuts. Then another balanced budget amendment. Then vote on Barcky’s budget proposal, again. Dump it all on Hairy Reid.

    JD (318f81)

  164. hi Mr. Dustin I’ve been here just been quiet mostly – I was on vacation! Sorta. I had a vacation planned but then it got messed up but I still had the days off. So a good time was had by all anyways.

    Did you see National Soros Radio giving Mr. Cantor the what-for?

    Personally I think they went easy on him. That boy needs a time out until he can sit in a negotiation and not be offering up compromises and such. He knows that’s not how his mama raised him up.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  165. Happyfeet, sorry your vacation didn’t work out as planned. We just had a few days off as well here at Casa Dustino. Spent the time on home improvement and eating watermelon from the backyard.

    I hadn’t seen the NPR attack, but strangely I’ve read a couple of articles almost identical to it. It’s almost as though the MSM is taking marching orders again. Gee.

    Th House should pass this tomorrow. Then the next day, 2.5trillion in actual cuts. Then another balanced budget amendment. Then vote on Barcky’s budget proposal,

    Hell yes.

    Dustin (b7410e)

  166. “Republican Candidate” Extends Lead vs. Obama to 47% to 39%” Gallup

    This is why poor Eric’s getting the Alinsky treatment from OFA, the left blogosphere and the MSM. They’re scared to death! An unknown, faceless, generic, Republican player to be named later is creaming Barry in the 2012 Presidential poll and the Dems don’t know who to go after cuz there’s not even a front runner yet. So Cantor’s the surrogate villain for now. It’s actually kind of funny when you think about it that way. How embarrassing and humiliating this must be for Obama to see such a great number of voters prefer literally anybody over him.

    elissa (8bb103)

  167. Sorry, JD I hadn’t seen your post of the new Gallup survey before I commented and linked it, too.

    elissa (8bb103)

  168. watermelon is very America I think

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  169. Elissa – I am still mad about yu calling me cute. Dashing, perhaps. Debonaire, indeed. Cute? Never.

    JD (318f81)

  170. ____________________________________________

    Q: What do Rahm Emmanuel and Ronnie Jr. have in common, other than the obvious, that they are two mendacious, leftwing weezuls?

    The latter was born in 1958, so he’s around 53 years old. There is something stunted and immature about a person well past his high school and college years who’s still wedded to leftist politics. It’s like an adult riding around on a tricycle and wearing footed pajamas.

    I recall Ron Jr at his father’s funeral and the cheap way he politicized the occasion, by using his eulogy to cast a not-so-veiled dagger at George W Bush. Reagan’s pathetic son has struck me before and after such events as the epitome of wide variety of folks on the left who fancy themselves as so compassionate and humane — certainly more so than their political opposites — but who in actuality, and in reality, aren’t.

    Emmanuel is reportedly a foul-mouthed jerk, and he’s no less leftwing than someone like Ron Jr. So he also comes to mind when pondering the irony that leftist sentiment not only doesn’t make a person truly humane, compassionate and generous, it actually does just the opposite.

    Mark (411533)

  171. LOL, JD. OK, I stand corrected. From here on out I’ll try to think of you more in the Pierce Brosnan or Sean Connery mold.

    elissa (8bb103)

  172. i like watermelon. and cherries. and chinese gooseberries, which nowadays they call kiwifruit, and which ignorant yanks sometimes call kiwis, which are birds or people or shoepolish but not fruit.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  173. You do realize that I was joking, no?

    JD (318f81)

  174. Look, JD, as long as you can absolutely guarantee that you don’t look like Henry Waxman or Barney Frank it’s all good…..

    elissa (8bb103)

  175. That I can swear to, and many others can attest to.

    JD (318f81)

  176. I can back him up on that.

    Machinist (b6f7da)

  177. What time is the lecture/hectoring/campaign speech from i/me/my ?

    JD (306f5d)

  178. “Look, JD, as long as you can absolutely guarantee that you don’t look like Henry Waxman or Barney Frank it’s all good…..”

    elissa – You’re invited to broccoli night next time JD’s in town.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  179. We should have an open thread so we can write Teh One’s campaign speech/lecture before he gives it. I will start. I will start … I am above the fray, only seeking to do the will of the people and anyone that does not agree with me is engaged in childish partisan politics. I must reduce expenditures in the tax code by killing and eating all job creators especially fat cats in corporate jets who are only using those because I gave the tax break that I mewl about today and tebaggers suck and everyone must compromise except me, and here is my list of 862 programs that must never be touched.

    JD (d48c3b)

  180. Falsum in uno, falsum in omnibus:

    Barack Obama, his accomplices in Congress, and the UPDRCR’s in the MFMSM, have largely succeeded in reducing the current debate over the debt limit to a false choice: raise taxes or default.

    That one simple but clever rhetorical device puts them well over half way to the tax increase they need to ensure victory over the Stupid Party in the coming 2012 elections.

    The choice really isn’t between more taxes or a default, it’s between higher taxes and spending reductions, both avoid the false alternative of default.

    By ignoring spending cuts Obama is trying to force Republicans to betray their conservative base, especially the TEA Party, just like Democrats did to George H.W. Bush. He promised “No new taxes” and when he reneged on his word it cost him the Presidency at a time when his popularity and approval ratings were astonishingly high. Bush betrayed the conservative base and they sat out the election in disgust.

    Which is exactly what will happen to the GOP this time around if they roll over on a tax increase.

    ropelight (416004)

  181. Don’t call my bluff, bro.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  182. There’s lots of cowardly senators like John McCain and Princess Lindsey what are eager eager eager to drop trou and spread their cheeks.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  183. You’re invited to broccoli night next time JD’s in town.

    Sorry, WH mandate: it’s peas and only peas. We all have to sacrifice.

    Dana (b17ada)

  184. Reagan’s pathetic son has struck me before

    that silly savage
    I bet it was one of those
    foppish limp wrist swipes

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  185. The Dems are demanding spending increases in the negotiations. Spending increases. Try to get your head around that.

    And, they are being so unserious that they took cuts they agreed to off the table and now demand new taxes to buy back what they previously agreed to.

    Boehner and Mitch should demand that al proposals be made in writing, or on live TV. Good Allah.

    JD (0d2ffc)

  186. 😯 I do not wanna see the mental image of John Mccain spreading his buttcheeks.

    Honestly Happyfeet should be sued for that.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  187. the clock is ticking on bumble’s deadline they have less than 30 hours left

    chop chop Team R

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  188. I am waiting for the presentation of President BumbleF’s plan.

    If not now, when?

    Robert, when will we see the greasy azzed socialist’s plan, what with its bendings over backwards, along with its CBO scoring.

    If not now, when?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  189. Daddy Soros never lets bumble see the whole plan I don’t think – he likes to keep him guessing

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  190. Daleyrocks – they should point to his budget proposal as absolute evidence how not even close to serious Barcky and the Dems are being in this. If I were Boehner, I woiuld vote on Barcky’s budget every day in the House until the campaignet in chief put a formal proposal together. This BS mediator role is tiresome.

    JD (109425)

  191. risk Armageddon
    “don’t you call my bluff” Cantor
    walls come tumbling down

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  192. c’mon c’mon down
    sweet Virginia got to
    scrape O right off shoe

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  193. ‘“Republican Candidate” Extends Lead vs. Obama to 47% to 39%” Gallup’

    That’s encouraging news. Now all we need to do is find an actual REAL Republican to run against him.

    Dave Surls (3ea380)

  194. Lying liar’s press conference.

    Hopes everyone can prove they are serious about getting our fiscal house in order.

    He ignores the recommendations of his fiscal commission.

    He submits a ridiculous budget that is rejected by the Senate 97-0 and has not yet submitted a replacement.

    He claims to have put a number of things on the table but has reserved a large number of items as protected and has not offered specifics.

    He jumps into the process at the last minute and demands others present a plan when he has already abdicated his responsibilities.

    Avoiding leadership and blame are the hallmarks of his career.


    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  195. Obama complains $2.4 trillion over ten years is taking a big bite, but baseline spending, including “one-time” $800 billion stimulus is up over $1 trillion annually since Democrats took over Congress. I call BS.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  196. Stones no Quo Yo O
    you’re in the sky and with the sky
    you make men cry you lie

    Timeslaiku (0b8e46)

  197. chuck todd grew a pair?
    who knew stranger things happen
    the shuffle and jive

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  198. Obama has HOPE
    so so very good to know
    the stench make me clench

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  199. Moreover, along with Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, Mr. Obama warns that fiscal Armageddon is coming unless the ceiling is lifted before Aug. 2 – the date Mr. Geithner claims the United States begins defaulting to its debtors.

    Too bad that’s a blatant lie–a default only occurs if the country doesn’t pay the interest on the current debt, and spends more than it takes in.

    In essence, going over the debt ceiling means that the government would have to run a balanced budget. THAT’S the real reason Obama’s freaking out–he knows damn well that with running two wars (and two shadow ones in Yemen and Libya), and with entitlements taking up ALL of federal income (and over half of all federal spending), mathematically he wouldn’t be able to kick the can anymore.

    That’s why he’s threatening fiscal armageddon, and why he confirmed this week that the Social Security “trust fund” doesn’t actually exist. It’s because he doesn’t have the balls to tell Americans the same thing I’ve been saying since 2008–the 54-year party’s over, and it’s time for the country to get it’s fiscal house in order.

    Another Chris (c983db)

  200. We don’t need more studies. The numbers are obvious. The good nes is this doesn’t require us to do anything radical.”

    Then why does Obama threaten that SS payments will be cut off or that the choice is between college education or tax cuts for millionaires? Why does he keep creating commissions and committees to do his work for him instead of presenting a plan himself?

    No leadership.


    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  201. repeat after me
    “revenues” just mean tax hikes
    Ministry of Truth

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  202. that’s right daleyrocks
    and not one of these clowns call
    him on it… shameless

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  203. colonel know the drill
    when barcky obama say
    “rigid positions”

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  204. O lead from behind
    make best walkout performance
    since John Belushi

    Timeslaiku (0b8e46)

  205. expecting answers
    “tough on Dimocrat side too”
    murder now orphan

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  206. Obama now say
    80 percent want tax hike
    Ministry of Truth

    Timeslaiku (0b8e46)

  207. It is tough for the CBO to score speeches.

    When will we see Obama’s plan to prove his seriousness about getting our fiscal house in order?

    If not now, when?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  208. now that’s leadership!
    say what? do the hustle! now
    go on vacation

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  209. Platitudes are not dollars.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  210. Permanent campaign. LOL!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  211. If he demands that we follow polls, why isn’t the repeal of BarckCare on the table?

    JD (318f81)

  212. High speed rail critical for Winning the Future. You must not cut. Lulz!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  213. when debt grow faster
    than economy you know
    hip deep in sheep dip

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  214. Shut up Fareed. CNN nutjobs.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  215. Good revenue raiser – Sell more guns to Mexico!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  216. please hike my taxes
    Barack Hussein Obama
    just call Ronnie Deutch

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  217. peter beinart say
    a masterful performance!
    now where my Kleenex®?

    ColonelHaiku (cc5c75)

  218. Kleenex® have double
    meaning and I don’t think one
    is cutting onions

    Timeslaiku (0b8e46)

  219. “POTUS might be distracted by more important matters at hand.”

    Like what?

    Is Michelle running low on cheeseburgers, or something?

    Dave Surls (3ea380)

  220. I love that facepalm pic. Can I use it Aaron?


    The Cheshirecat (0cd6a2)

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