Obama’s Waterloo?
[Guest post by Aaron Worthing; if you have tips, please send them here. Or by Twitter @AaronWorthing.]
I was pessimistic when I read this opinion piece yesterday:
KUHNER: Obama’s Waterloo
By overreaching, the president has positioned himself for defeat
Jeffrey T. Kuhner
Republicans have a golden opportunity to break Barack Obama’s presidency, ensuring he will be a one-termer. Mr. Obama has backed himself into a corner on the debt-limit talks; the GOP can smash his re-election prospectsif they have the will – and intelligence – to do it.
Mr. Obama has asked that the nation’s $14.3 trillion debt ceiling be raised, and he knows that cannot be done without support from House Republicans. Moreover, along with Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, Mr. Obama warns that fiscal Armageddon is coming unless the ceiling is lifted before Aug. 2 – the date Mr. Geithner claims the United States begins defaulting to its debtors.
Mr. Obama seeks a “grand bargain”: a debt-reduction package that includes $1 trillion in tax increases to accompany entitlement spending cuts, including Social Security and Medicare. He wants to go big. His target is to slash $4 trillion over 10 years. He has repeatedly vowed to veto any “small” debt-limit increase – one that allows America to keep paying its bills until a more comprehensive agreement is ratified. In other words, Mr. Obama has issued an ultimatum to congressional Republicans: Either break your 2010 campaign pledge not to raise taxes or else be blamed for the debt-limit debacle. As he put it, it’s time to “eat our peas.” The president is playing Russian roulette with the economy and our nation’s future.
Yet he has badly played his weak hand. Like the dictator Napoleon Bonaparte, who sought to spread the radical French Revolution across Europe, Mr. Obama has committed a fatal mistake: overreach. The president has issued a public ultimatum that either must be upheld or he must back down from. Either way, it is Mr. Obama’s political credibility that threatens to be shattered.
And you should read the whole thing and what he wrote sounds all well and good, but… I kept thinking that there was a danger that they were underestimating Obama. I mean didn’t someone say Healthcare would be Obama’s Waterloo?
So I thought maybe all of this was premature. And then I read this:
Cantor said the president became “agitated” and warned the Virginia Republican not to “call my bluff” when Cantor said he would consider a short-term debt-limit hike. The meeting “ended with the president abruptly walking out of the meeting,” Cantor told reporters in the Capitol. “I know why he lost his temper. He’s frustrated. We’re all frustrated.”
Okay, I am not even on the President’s side but I feel it is necessary to do a…
Here’s a pro-tip, Mr. President. If you don’t want someone to call your bluff, don’t tell them that you are bluffing.
Seriously, I long for the days when we had a President who knew how to play poker.
[Posted and authored by Aaron Worthing.]
“how can we not love
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:02 amObama?” asks Esquire mag
let me count the ways
Maybe if they couched the topic in terms the President is familiar with.
What sort of games of chance are popular in his native Kenya?
papertiger (e55ba0) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:04 amObama wants to
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:05 amdefine Dims’ role and Repubs’
oh the arrogance!
Republicans will turn any victory into a monumental defeat/retreat. The end result of this fiasco will be massive tax increases and never-to-be-seen “draconian” cuts in spending. Washington knows no other way. The never realized cuts will be used as a bludgeon for the Dems to bash Repubs for 2 more generations. It’s just how Washington works. The rest of it is merely show.
dfbaskwill (ca54bb) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:06 amKenyan Games of Chance
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:08 aminvolve man lion and door
and who reach door first
Boehner McConnell
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:12 amhad better recognize they
have so much to lose
Timothy Geithner
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:15 amwill soon return to Land of
Keeblers where he born
go back to making
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:17 amdelicious crackers Geithner
something you can do
colonel on a roll
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:20 amand not one cup o’ Joe Oh!
the insanity
The Republicans have to stand firm but they have to figure out a way to get past the hostile press and tell the country the real story. One way might be to pass a “clean” debt ceiling increase that will last a year. Then the debate will resume just before the election. I don’t think Obama would sign such a bill, even if the Senate passed it, which is 50-50. If he vetoed the debt limit increase because it would not get us past the next election, it would be easier to pin the blame on him.
Mike K (8f3f19) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:25 amStop your celebration people. What is happening is getting a spin by the mainstream media, water carriers for Obama. Today’s LA Times front page headline:
“Default rick widens rift withing GOP”
The story said that “experts” warn of great, widespread disaster if the debt ceiling isn’t raised. And then they blame a rift in the Republican side and those evil Tea Party people as being responsible for failure to solve the problem.
You think Obama stormed out of his meeting with Rep. Cantor? Well try this headline on for size:
“Obama ends debt meeting with warning”
In fact, this second story, not on the front page, makes Cantor look like the bad guy because he provoked Obama by saying there is “no longer time to engage in the large-scale deficit reduction discussions the White House is now seeking as part of the vote to raise the nation’s debt ceiling.”
You see, Obama is perfectly reasonable, they imply. Of course, they neglect to point out that Obama has given a list of his things that won’t get cut, including such idiotic projects as high-speed rail.
Don’t you see they are going to blame the Tea Party for the default and Granny not getting her government check? Remember that shooting in Tucson? Yes, they blamed the Tea Party for that too. Never mind that earlier an Islamic terrorist shot three times that many people and we were admonished not to jump to conclusions.
Arizona Bob (aa856e) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:35 amObama in shock
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:41 am“The time for talk is over”
shtick is not working
don’t you call my bluff!
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:43 amthis guy couldn’t even play
poker with the dogs
How many dates has Timothy (Tax Cheat)Geithner set for financial armageddon? Now it is August 2nd? And what happens then? 60% unemployment? DJIA at 800?
So, instead of getting real leadership from the Oval Office, we have a petulant child who never lost an election (basically because no one ever ran against him until John McCain), who got into not one, but two tony universities due to affirmative action (which Obama admitted in the Harvard Law Record), who thought that being POTUS meant date night and campaign trips on the taxpayer dime while the peons ran the White House, and now he is expected to actually act like a President? How narrow minded of us who thinks that was EXACTLY what he was elected to do.
He must be totally lost. David Axelrod is in Chicago, planning campaign tactics, and Obama no longer has Rahm Emanual to beat Eric Cantor over the head with a dead fish.
As to Granny not getting her SS check: how about not sending out welfare checks to dead beats living in housing we taxpayers are paying for? How about shutting down twenty of the alphabet agencies in the federal government that are useless. Close the Department of Education. Hell, school’s out now anyway. Shut down the EPA, all they do is run rough shod over states anyway. Hell, let’s cut the White House budget by slashing Michelle Antoinette’s staff by half and stop buying fuel for her to jet over to foreign countries taking her extended family (mother, counsin, nephews) with her. Joe Biden’s such a fan of AMTRAC Michelle can take that back to Chicago.
We pull in enought tax revenues to pay M/M, SS, the Military AND the interest debt. Perhaps the wealthy Democrats, like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Ried, can throw a few millions into the tax coffers to cover the White House budget.
retire05 (c9c4f2) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:52 amOf course the media coverage is pro-Obama. Despite that, Obama seems really agitated. Maybe the GOP really has called his bluff.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (5950e3) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:57 amIf President Obama refuses to honor Social Security, Medicare, Military and Debt repayments then it is not because of a lack of money.
That is all the Republicans need to repeat if POTUS does not fold.
“For the first time in its history the US Treasury under the direction of Barack Obama, POTUS, has refused to honor its most basic obligations to its most vulnerable and its most entitled simply because he is a nasty politician. Our Treasury gets a $200 billion monthly salary. Those commitments are less than $160 billion.”
“Barack Obama has chosen instead to make payroll for Federal Government workers and abandoned all interest in helping his fellow citizens.”
…. and even if not 100% correct who cares?
The fact POTUS will pay food stamps to the able bodied while playing politics with Seniors and the Military will destroy him.
Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:06 am“The POTUS wishes to increase the Debt Ceiling to fund his social programs and wasteful stimulus projects yet he is threatening the nation by withholding Social Security checks. There is enough money to pay seniors and military Mr President. It is OK if the able bodied, foreign countries and well connected Corporations wait a few weeks for their checks.”
Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:10 amFor all of his life Barack Obama has been told that respect is something he deserves. He’s the President of the United States and he is petulant when he perceives that he is not being treated with respect.
But true respect – the respect one receives not just from sycophants but from opponents as well – that respect is EARNED.
I know, I use the language of the private sector and I will not be understood. There really is no hope for him.
Amphipolis (b120ce) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:12 amThe Republicans have been handed a victory by stoooopid and their is hang wringing over how to play the cards.
I would blast this day and night on TV.
“Obama and the Democrats puts Social Security payment on hold but Food Stamps are on schedule. What is wrong with the President’s priorities?”
“Obama and the Democrats don’t make Medicare payments or Pay the National debt but they find money to pay Unionized Government Workers and Stimulus Fraud. Obama, nice words but the wrong priorities for a nation.”
Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:13 amO not know that he
Timeslaiku (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:14 amgaze on Waterloo Sunset
he don’t need no friend
Times try to do like
Timeslaiku (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:16 amO negotiating hard
did not work out well
as long as he gaze
on Waterloo Sunset he
is in Paradise
good one, timesguy!
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:18 amIn 2010 voters rejected Democrat candidates and sent GOP representatives to Congress in the expectation they would put a stop to outrageous government spending.
Americans had become alarmed with GWB’s TARP bailout, and with Obama’s failed Stimulus program, his mishandling of the BP oil disaster in the Gulf, and with ObamaCare itself. Voters were particularly angry with the shabby underhanded way Nancy Pilosi and Harry Reid rammed the unwanted takeover of healthcare through Congress against the clearly expressed opposition of the vast majority of Americans.
American voters insist their representatives in Congress and in the White House listen to the voice of the people and to behave accordingly. If an individual representative refuses to listen, they face the wrath of their constituents. If a political party refuses to listen to the clear majority of the nation’s voters, that party gets voted out of office wholesale at the first opportunity. That’s what happened to the Democrat Party in 2010.
Now, Obama apparently thinks he’s immune from the law of voter expectations. He arrogantly continues to do exactly what he’s been doing since he took office, which is to rule like a tyrant rather than to govern like an elected leader.
Barack Obama hasn’t got the compassion, the intelligence, or the temperament to be President of the country. He should resign and get out of the way so we can begin the task of rebuilding our economy and our representative form of self government.
ropelight (457e23) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:18 amwin-win a lost art
Timeslaiku (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:20 amO look at world from window
people look like ants
he’s agitated
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:21 amsooner or later he’ll hit
ground and get found out
he’s agitated
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:23 amit’s not complicated
he’s overrated
blind pig find acorn
Timeslaiku (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:23 amnow and then but Colonel rules
the form of haiku
Our little small President is a petulant child.
JD (85b089) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:24 amhe’s agitated
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:26 amgood evil sleep side by side
tell me what I say
don’t step on Greta
Timeslaiku (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:27 amweak and fragile is why O
tries to be so hard
It all start with spoon
Timeslaiku (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:29 amgood evil sleep side by side
one of them Be Stiff
Aaron, I think there’s a language mismatch. To me, and I suspect to the President, “don’t call my bluff” means “I’m not bluffing”. Which doesn’t mean he isn’t bluffing, of course; I suspect he is, and I think the Republicans should call it, but he’s not in any way telegraphing that by warning them not to.
(This isn’t a game where, if you’re not bluffing, you want people to call your nonexistent bluff, so you wouldn’t warn them not to.)
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:32 amAs painful as a default would be, you do realize that it would end the progressives’ spending fantasies pretty thoroughly.
Jeff Crump (f9f615) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:40 amPresident, he say
Texas Haiku (3ee41e) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:42 am“Don’t call my bluff”; well, this time
“don’t” really means “Dooon’t!!!”
O walk out like diva
Timeslaiku (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:43 amcelluloid heroes never
feel pain never die
Some guys like O say
Timeslaiku (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:47 am“no” means “maybe” but Texas
speak an awful truth
“Don’t call my bluff” is an expression that does not mean I am actually bluffing, but that it would be a mistake for you to assume that I am. It is a stupid expression, one that disregards the meaning of the word bluff, but there it is.
It’s like the expression “It’s not bragging if it’s true.” Well, if you take the trouble to consider what the word “bragging” means, then, yes, it is bragging even if it is true. But, the expression still exits, as stupid as it is.
Anon Y. Mous (b370b4) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:49 amRemember when the MFM was all atwitter about Teh One’s superior temperment and demeanor?
JD (85b089) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:51 amInvoking Ronald Reagan in a meeting with Republicans to scold them? The One comparing anything he does or says with anything Reagan would have done or said in a remotely similar situation? OK, that officially crossed the line. For me, the science is settled–Obama has lost his mind.
The press may spin and you may think you had a Reykjavik moment yesterday, Barry, but you really didn’t.
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:00 amThis is what I was referring to above concerning BO’s reference to RR just before he flounced out–
At this point, Cantor explained, the president became “very agitated” and said he had “sat here long enough,” that “Ronald Reagan wouldn’t sit here like this” and “something’s got to give.” Obama (National Review)
“Would Ronald Reagan be sitting here,” he reportedly asked. “I’ve reached my limit. This may bring my presidency down, but I will not yield on this.” (Politico)
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:15 am__________________________________________
I long for the days when we had a President who knew how to play poker.
I long for an adult being in the Oval Office, period.
This nation, with all its people who lean left — because they believe liberal bias is a beautiful, generous, compassionate and sophisticated thing — deserve this Banana-Republic era in US history.
And that American Thinker essay on George W Bush, and his supposed lack of intelligence, as deemed by a variety of “sophisticates” in the MSM and elsewhere? Those sophisticates (who sneer “redneck, redneck, Tea Party, Tea Party!”) love to sidestep the fact that some of the most screwed-up, poorly educated, self-destructive, unkind (or rowdy), crime-plagued communities in America have an electorate in which surveys reveal that up to 90-plus percent of people blindly favor liberals, blindly love Democrats—and will vote for “intelligent” politicians like Gore, Kerry or Obama, no matter what.
Mark (411533) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:16 am____________________________________________
The following is so ridiculous and stupid, it goes beyond ideological parameters. IOW, it seems absurdly irresponsible and idiotic even by the standards of people of the left. Why it hasn’t caused a stir is beyond me. But it does reflect the mentality and intelligence of the current White House:
Obama and his people need to be exiled to Elba, ASAP.
Mark (411533) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:35 amIf you try
Robin Munn (347954) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:42 amTo call my bluff
Robin Munn (347954) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:43 amMark, that is outrageous. Unfortunately I don’t believe these decisions were taken at the political level, which will change after the next election, but by the career DOJ employees, who are supposed to be immune from the political cycle. The next Republican Attorney General must take the lid off the career DOJ staff and fire everyone involved in these decisions, tenure or no tenure, and union contract or no union contract. They no longer have the excuse of thinking it will all work out; they know what a disaster this policy caused before, and yet continue to enforce it.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:43 amI will fold
Robin Munn (347954) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:43 amLike a cream puff
Robin Munn (347954) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:43 amObama Shave
Robin Munn (347954) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:44 amYeah, he’s really bad about showing self awareness. He thinks he’s Abraham Lincoln or Ronald Reagan, while he exploits a potential crisis specifically to remove a political liability until after his re-election.
He couldn’t be more selfish. He couldn’t post as more self-less.
Is he crazy, Elissa? I think he’s overwhelmed for sure. I think that’s why the radicals around him have had so much say. But he’s also a radical. In the back of his head is Cloward-Piven telling him that the worst case scenario is that he’s the architect of ‘reform’.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:44 amDarn, WordPress wouldn’t let me post those rapid-fire (“You’re posting too fast. Slow down.”) and so another comment snuck into the middle. But you get the idea.
Robin Munn (347954) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:47 amThere are too many people who do not associate our shared economic malaise with the democrat party’s progressive policies. I think that until a “generational” event like the Great Depression occurs nothing will cure people of their progressive fantasies and our situation will not improve.
I’m not really a gloomy person, but so far nothing has changed since Patterico began discussing the whole public debt situation.
Jeff Crump (f9f615) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:49 amMark, that is absolutely insane. I don’t know what else to say. It’s socialism.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:54 amColonel left times guy
Timeslaiku (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:11 amin dust with Devo and Kinks
on to English Beat
If you should try
Times Shave (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:13 amto call O’s bluff
you’ll see his @$$
walk out in a huff
“This may bring my presidency down”
One can only hope.
Dave Surls (7c55e5) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:22 am“It’s not bragging if it’s true.” Comment by Anon Y. Mous — 7/14/2011 @ 8:49 am
I’ve always said that that should be, “It’s bragging only if it’s true, otherwise it is lying.”
Have Blue (dbbcd4) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:33 amI hope he resigns in disgrace.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:36 am____________________________________________
Unfortunately I don’t believe these decisions were taken at the political level, which will change after the next election
I left out portions of that article that mentioned the current Attorney General — an appointee of Obama — namely the ultra-liberal Eric Holder. I’m quite sure a good portion of the bureaucracy of the Justice Department in 2011 reflects the mindset of its boss and, in turn, the leftist atmosphere in DC promoted by the White House.
Speaking of a situation that often results in a lack of ethics, common sense and integrity…
Mark (411533) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:37 am
I guarantee some of those lines were prepared in advance, especially the one where he compared himself to Reagan, and the one where he said this may bring my presidency down. Scripted BS.
JD (85b089) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:42 amracist!
Times Disliker (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:45 amTeh Won’s skin is soo thin you could read the fine-print created by a “Philadelphia Lawyer” through it by candlelight.
And now, we have Jay Carney brow-beating the WHPC over shouted questions at pix-opps.
You have to wonder just when will the media finally wake up to the realization that they have been promoting, and protecting, a fraud that will ultimately do them (and us) harm?
For the media, it is long past time for a “Come to Jesus” moment.
AD-RtR/OS! (317be7) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:53 amThere is more.
Gunwalker
Michael Ejercito (64388b) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:56 amDOJ Begins Bank Witch Hunt – Yahoo! Finance
Let the jumped up affirmative action hire not pay the bondholders, active military, veterans pensions and social security. The republicans ought and I would hope so impeach him and the treasury secretary. Let the senate democrats make fools of themselves on national TV defending the indefensible. And when they pass the bill to impeach him in the house also pass a bill to privatize social security, repeal the Wagner and Davis-Bacon Acts,repeal Obamacare and eliminate the dept. of education, HUD, NEA,PBS,NPR and most of the LBJ great society disaster along with eliminating every deduction and credit that benefits the mostly democrat parts of the country. Lets see the democrats pretzel logic themselves to death why some tax hikes are good (rich evil republicans) others bad (rich good progressives). A great time will be had by all.
cubanbob (409ac2) — 7/14/2011 @ 11:06 amObama is acting desperate, it’s obvious.
This ‘crisis’ purely of Obama’s own making is laying bare the inherent in-sustainability of all the ‘progressives’ harebrained schemes… and they’re absolutely freaking out
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SXFSclQH_Gw/Th6_VjluQ8I/AAAAAAAAHgI/38DEhFV0fMY/s400/Obama+as+Calvin.jpg
Reaganite Republican (c90bca) — 7/14/2011 @ 11:09 amSo if by asserting “they” would not have done this to Ronald Reagan, is he pulling out the race card?
I was raised black and that is what that means to me.
Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37) — 7/14/2011 @ 11:34 am#61, Republicans are not smart enough yet to do that. Too many Country Clubbers still around like Grassley, Snowe, McCain, McConnell etc….
Hell they don’t even need to write the bill, you can pass it with a cover sheet and “promises” to have the agencies “write the administrative code.”
Remebah, you gotta pass it to know what is in it.
** but sadly our Republicans are not that smart and don’t have an ounce of real courage. Maybe if they had spent a few years in Cuba — they could muster the cojones to do the right thing.
Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37) — 7/14/2011 @ 11:38 amAccording to the survey, released on Thursday (today), 48% of Americans say they will blame Republicans, not President Obama, if the country’s debt limit is not raised. 34% said they would blame Mr. Obama rather than the GOP.
Cantor, Boehner, and McConnell voted yes everytime to raise the debt ceiling under Bush.
ALSO:
“By a wide margin, more Americans blame former President George W. Bush for the national economic outlook than they do President Barack Obama, according to a new poll.
54% of Americans say Bush is to blame for exploding the federal deficit and swelling unemployment, whereas just 27% believe it is President Obama’s fault.
Bad news for Republicans, who are hoping to hang the nation’s poor economic state around the president to defeat him in 2012.
It’s obvious, the public is not with the GOP.
President Obama defied a sluggish economy to collect a whopping $86 million for his re-election campaign and the Democratic Party in the past three months, shattering his fundraising goal and establishing dominance over the field of Republicans vying to oust him.
By contrast, Mitt Romney, the top fundraiser so far in the Republican field, collected $18.25 million during the same period.
Robert (8dd059) — 7/14/2011 @ 12:28 pmRobert, why no hyperlink?
Why the desperate effort to repeatedly tell us the public isn’t with the GOP?
Seems very forced.
And btw, no kidding a crony incumbent president is raising more money than one of many primary candidates. The Democrat party is the party if big money and corruption. So what?
Obama’s losing against a generic republican by a huge margin. Imagine how bad he’ll lose against a candidate who actually makes a case for himself.
Your surveys won’t work, because Obama owns the recession.
Frankly, this survey, which again, you can’t link, seems like a desperate effort to distract people from reality. Whoever thinks this is an idiot, and the truth will be very easy to illustrate.
See ya around, ‘Robert’.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 12:32 pm#65 You would think the mid-terms never happened according to those numbers.
Where did they take those polls? East Village or the Castro?
Sponge Bob Square Pants (786e37) — 7/14/2011 @ 12:32 pmAmerican voters disapprove 56 – 38 percent of the way President Barack Obama is handling the economy, but by 45 – 38 percent they trust the president more than congressional Republicans to handle the economy, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1624&What=&strArea=;&strTime=0
Robert (8dd059) — 7/14/2011 @ 12:35 pmPowers/Robert/Yelverton et al, amusing that you don’t want to discuss how you got discredited in the last thread you infested.
And we also see that “blame” is all the Democrats are interested in. Not an adult behavior.
SPQR (26be8b) — 7/14/2011 @ 12:38 pmWhere did the deficit come from?
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/08/img/pie_chart_deficit.bmp
Robert (8dd059) — 7/14/2011 @ 12:38 pmThe pie chart is a lie, like all of Robert/Powers/Yelverton’s dishonest links.
SPQR (26be8b) — 7/14/2011 @ 12:40 pmThis is where the deficit comes from. All spending.
SPQR (26be8b) — 7/14/2011 @ 12:43 pmRobert–Have you reproduced? Do you have no concern about the bankrupt American nation today’s children and their children will inherit and will have to bail out? It certainly looks as if you are much more concerned with the 2012 election than you are with survivability of the good old USA. Oh, and does the “target” of collecting 1 Billion dollars to spend on Obama’s re-election campaign possibly seem a little excessive–even to you? 1 billion on a freaking political campaign when the average American is struggling in ways they never dreamed possible? Inquiring minds want to know.
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 12:53 pmGood point, spongebob. But I don’t think Yelverton believes what he’s saying. He hates us, and hates the potency of the Tea Party and the failure of Obama. He is partly hoping he can demoralize us, but his repetition of an argument that failed many times suggests to me he’s just lashing out.
Elisa’s point, which is basically ‘have you no decency’ seems particularly appropriate.
We are stealing from our kids. If you want to bash the Bush era’s debt, you can. the right largely did for years. But Obama’s much worse, so bashing Bush’s deficit to defend Obama’s strikes me as placing politics over honesty and your country. And our kids.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 1:02 pmMitch McConnell tore into the Obama administration today. Me likey.
“I was truly hopeful that the President could be persuaded to view the upcoming debt limit vote as an opportunity to cut Washington spending and the debt that has ballooned since he took office, and to preserve entitlements at the same time. But in the end, he just wasn’t interested in doing something of that magnitude that would pass. He really gave us three bad choices: higher taxes, smoke and mirrors, or default. And we refuse to accept any of them. Republicans will not be reduced to being the tax collectors for the Obama economy. We won’t be seduced into calling a bad deal a good deal. And we won’t let the White House fool around with the full faith and credit of the United States. If the President wants to threaten seniors or veterans or rattle the world economy by pretending he can’t pay our bills, he of course can do that. But he is not going to implicate Republicans in these efforts,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said.
Video posted at RCP.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/14/mcconnell_gop_wont_be_reduced_to_being_tax_collectors_for_the_obama_economy.html
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 2:28 pmFrom National Public Radio website, this illustrates just how unserious the Democrats are:
http://npr.org/news/graphics/2011/07/gr-pm-debt-savings-462.gif
SPQR (26be8b) — 7/14/2011 @ 2:44 pmRasmussen poll shows quite different results than the one willie the racist plagiarizing gender-bending hilljack was yammering on about.
JD (85b089) — 7/14/2011 @ 3:06 pmMEMO TO: ‘Commodore Decker’ Cantor
SUBJECT: DOOMSDAY
Decker: “You’re bluffing.”
Spock: “Vulcans never bluff. …”
Americans elected a ‘Mr. Spock,’ Eric.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 7/14/2011 @ 3:18 pmDemocratic Underground Poll shows Americans are 99% blaming the GOP for Obama’s deficit! They will reelect Obama 112% vs Ron Paul’s 84%!
Also, 93% of Americans blame Bush for 9/11!
/reality based
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 3:23 pmSS is a fraud.
How long before the ponzi scheme threatens to disembowel the economy?
DohBiden (15aa57) — 7/14/2011 @ 3:24 pmThey elected a guy who promised never to raise the debt ceiling, actually. That’s who Obama promised he was. He promised to cut spending and taxes, too.
What a liar. The idea he’s cerebral is totally undermined by his inability to give a speech without a prompter, Ron Burgundy style, and his inability to focus on his job for three days straight without a vacation or golf. He can’t even sit through a meeting with people he disagrees with without spouting off with ‘I won!’ or just running out of the room.
This is not an isolated thing. He flees meetings all the time. Americans elected an idea of a man, and Obama doesn’t live up to it at all.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 3:25 pmDCSCA is ignorant.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 7/14/2011 @ 3:31 pmIMP never never never fails to beclown himself. I bet he pantsed himself in grade school.
JD (b98cae) — 7/14/2011 @ 3:31 pmDustin – Remember all the bibble babble about his superior judgment and temperment, that made him uniquely qualified for the job?
JD (85b089) — 7/14/2011 @ 3:34 pmWill DSCSA accuse Cantor of dual loyalties like Charles of the Johnson?
DohBiden (15aa57) — 7/14/2011 @ 3:37 pmYes, he was a community organizer who represented ACORN in court, then he voted present, and then he… ran a presidential campaign.
But we were supposed to trust this man with the White House because of his temperament. And moderation.
The guy who flees a room demanding people not call his bluff?
It’s sadder that he was elected than that he behaves this way.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 3:43 pmAwww…poor Prez RumpleThinSkin. Gone from “No Drama Obama” to (I shameless stole this from Iowahawk) “don’t make me petulant, you won’t like me when I’m petulant”…so now he’s The Sulk.
Sure sure…raise the ceiling, hike taxes, get a verbal pinky swear on the deficit spendaholics anonymous program..what could possibly go wrong?
ppk_pixie (7a67da) — 7/14/2011 @ 3:54 pmDid DSCSA say Obama is an alien? Is he a Birther then?
Machinist (b6f7da) — 7/14/2011 @ 4:08 pm” The Sulk”
That made me snogglesnort a bit.
Machinist (b6f7da) — 7/14/2011 @ 4:09 pm#89
Mac- I can’t take credit for it- read it on Iowahawk’s twitter feed…made me laugh. That man is just hilarious.
Prez Priaprism, on the other…ahem…hand, is not.
ppk_pixie (7a67da) — 7/14/2011 @ 4:17 pmYou were properly clear on your source, but I first saw it in your comment. Thank you for the laugh, Ma’am.
Machinist (b6f7da) — 7/14/2011 @ 4:22 pmRead this article: Game over
Robert (4f434b) — 7/14/2011 @ 4:24 pmDisco Stu (no surprise here) mangled his reference to one of the best ST:TOS episodes.
Not only do Vulcans never bluff, they also never announce (or, to be charitable, pretend to announce) that they are bluffing.
What Obama in effect said was “If you call my bluff, then I will have to stop bluffing!” Put another way, “If you back me up against a wall I’m gonna use that wall as a substitute for my jellyfish spine.” So watch out! Kitten might grow claws.
In the meantime, of course, it’s just Eric “screw you guys, I’m going home!” Cartman.
Icy Texan (3ee41e) — 7/14/2011 @ 4:27 pmIt’s amusing how the left will run crazy with a poll they like, and if they see one they don’t, it’s proof of a conspiracy (see Rasmussen).
‘Robert’, who had a different name yesterday before you had to change it in shame again, 2010 is proof you’re wrong. Push polls won’t save Obama. That is a pretty desperate move.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 4:38 pmRead this. Yelverton is pathetic. Game over.
JD (306f5d) — 7/14/2011 @ 4:42 pmI say um um um
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 5:32 pmBarack Hussein Obama
um um um um UM!
Robert ignores the tax increase already built in to ObamaCare that most Americans have not paid attention to because the liberal media has hushed them up. Obama broke his pledge about taxing the middle class with that bill since some of the new taxes do not just apply to the rich.
How much does it tax to satisfy these redistributionists?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/14/2011 @ 5:34 pmTake not tax
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/14/2011 @ 5:35 pmLOL! Obama
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/14/2011 @ 5:35 pmBIG zero better
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 5:40 pmraise money cuz it’ll take
lots to spread The Lies
“hey… don’t call my bluff!”
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 5:44 pmbluster or plea for mercy?
HA! you be the judge
Let’s npt pretend that “robert” isn’t the 5632551256222512nd version of Yelverton.
JD (85b089) — 7/14/2011 @ 5:52 pmWaterloo could not
Times Disliker (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 5:58 pmescape if I wanted to
whoa whoa whoa whoa O
no lefties with brains?
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 5:59 pmyelverton you imbecile!
now release the hounds
JD, if it is this person, why doesn’t he post under his own name? Why the constant changing of names? Seems odd.
Simon Jester (2fac58) — 7/14/2011 @ 5:59 pmStonewall Jackson say
Times Disliker (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:01 pmeverybody has to pay
meet your Waterloo
D’OH! times guy plays
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:03 pmABBA card but Bahney Fwank
the real Dancing Queen
Be sure to block out some time tomorrow morning to watch Zero’s presser. He’s taking it to the American people. Can you stand the excitement? The anticipation?
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:07 pmObama take it
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:08 pmto American people
take it to the chin
got name for new band
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:10 pmThe Lying Obamas or
Hot Poop can’t decide
Nation getting sick
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:14 pmof hearing Obama talk
all about himself
Obama will never have a Waterloo as long as the media covers for him. The best Republicans can hope for is that Obama will lose in 2012, which will no doubt result in complaints he was cheated like Al Gore — only with allegations of racism and bigotry added to the mix. And given the immaturity of his staff, the complaints and whining will never end.
DRJ (fdd243) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:16 pmObama’s spokesman thinks that having to vote again on a debt ceiling limit is worse that a default.
The Democrats really are showing that their political stunts are more important than the reality of the nation’s finances. Blame more important that working on fixing it. That’s why the President walked out.
SPQR (26be8b) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:17 pmHe say Reagan not
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:20 pmsit there but I think O meant
Ron Junior dance boy
Try Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, DCSCA. Perhaps you remember this exchange beteen Spock and Lt. Saavik when they rescued Kirk and Co. from being stranded:
Saavik (to Spock): Then you lied?
Spock: I exaggerated, Lieutenant.
Your Mr. Spock President is a serial exaggerator.
(I knew my geekdom would come in handy at some point.)
JVW (39c649) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:22 pmThat’s amazing, SPQR.
And I think you, Dustin and JD are right about Robert’s identity.
DRJ (fdd243) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:26 pmDRJ, that is really juvenile. It reminds me of an office prank by 23 year olds. But this is our White House discussing banning the one media outlet that doesn’t carry their water.
Your warning about screaming Obama was cheated out of reelection in certainly accurate.
As is your claim the media is really helping Obama win a PR war. But I don’t think they can help him enough. Maybe Obama won’t have a Waterloo, but unless he can turn the economy around he is not going to be reelected. And playing games like this is certainly not going to turn the economy around.
Obama’s strategy is to create a complex narrative where he can share blame for a failure, because he appears to have given up hope of saving the economy (sadly, I think he knows that if we cut spending the economy would do pretty well quickly, but he’s so stubborn).
The average voter just knows this is Obama’s watch and the economy is doing poorly. They don’t even know the GOP runs the House. They will not give Obama a pass.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:27 pmMy juvenile comment refers to DRJ’s link regarding WH staff behavior.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:28 pmDef Leppard cover
Times Disliker (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:30 pmWaterloo Sunset so sad
times guy cryonics
Q: What do Rahm Emmanuel and Ronnie Jr. have in common, other than the obvious, that they are two mendacious, leftwing weezuls?
A: Both are former ballerinas
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F5nfHv27ysE/TCXn2CFVqRI/AAAAAAAAF2M/VdvPTGGOCj4/s1600/RahmBallet.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5EvMAgEl90M/TT7UWeRIDNI/AAAAAAAABpw/ududh3vHy5M/s320/ron%2Breagan%2Bjr_ballet.jpg
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:32 pmWell Respected Man
Timeslaiku (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:33 pmAll Day And All Of The Night
Stop Your Sobbing O
props to elissa
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:33 pmChew on this for a while…
The Teavangelicals are going down.
By contrast…
President Obama’s reelection arm raised a record $86 million from April to June, illustrating strong enthusiasm among Democrats and providing the president with enough money to set up extensive campaign operations more than a year before Election Day.
Obama’s total dwarfs the amount raised by Republican Mitt Romney, who with $18.5 million led the field of candidates vying to take on the president.
Robert (d34162) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:34 pmyou rilly got me
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:35 pmgoing thru Kinks catalog
times guy I tell you
where’s my “Muswell Hillbillies”?
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:35 pmWilliam (Robert) you posted that exact same comment earlier.
Yes, the incumbent president out raised a single candidate in a crowded primary. So what? The democrat party is the party of crony capitalism and corruption. No one is surprised they raise all the money. They are the party of limo liberal millionaires.
I mean, for God’s sake, you’re comparing his donations to the donations to Sarah Palin, who isn’t even running for anything. Do you realize how pathetic that is?
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:36 pmcolonel got something
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:36 pmyou can chew on yelverton
meaty beaty BIG
DRJ–
I agree the media continues to cover for him and trash his rivals. He, and his staff, and his surreal cabinet of (mostly) incompetents continue to spin and outright lie on topic after topic. He still has supporters blinded by his hope and change slogan. But I honestly think the public as a whole and even many in the media have a much better handle on him now than before the 2008 election. Everyone’s a bit more savvy to his tics and pathologies and idiosyncrasies. He’s starting to be the subject of cutting political cartoons and a few comedians. Early on, cartoonists were too scared of being charged with racism to dig in. These are all subtle differences since 2008, but I do see them. Baby steps, I guess.
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:37 pmI recall the GOP was dramatically underfunded compared to the democrat party in 2010 too, Yelverton. Desperately, the hyperrich and corrupt tried to beat a grassroots operation. They failed.
From politico, so no link.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:38 pmbut not to worry
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:39 pmyelverton it just double
bag Costco® jerky
Ray Davies know
Timeslaiku (f41a99) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:46 pmwhy she walked like a woman
but talked like a man
Obama “presser”?
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:48 pmjust more mindless swooning
and softball questions
It’s interesting how frequently Obama invokes Reagan. According to Time, he and his supporters have been comparing Obama to Reagan since 2006, at least. But the comparison is based on style, not substance, and Obama apparently thinks his role is to correct Reagan’s mistakes about the role of government.
As for whether Obama admires Reagan, he explained his feelings in this excerpt from the Audacity of Hope (via The Beachwood Reporter):
Reagan had liberals pegged, and sometimes I wonder if that’s part of Obama’s frustration with Republicans and his ambivalence toward Reagan and other bitter, clingy Americans.
DRJ (fdd243) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:48 pmc’mon times guy no!
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:49 pmmy eyes! MY EYES!!! will never
be the same again
Yelverton is in one of his manic phases.
JD (306f5d) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:51 pmMore theatrics. Do you really believe a professional community organizer didn’t plan these meetings and practise this. His intent is clearly to let the default happen. He needs to be seen as strong, forceful — a man with something besides arugula in his underwear.
This is just a replay of the Clinton government shutdown. The narrative is being set; the MSM drums and dolts are all sychronized. The first “news” of the day will be how Granny Sally died in ER due to Boehner and those rich-loving GOP bankers.
Oh, and remember, be all in cash in a couple of weeks and be ready to do a Buffett.
cedarhill (8d027a) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:53 pmDRJ – How very racist of you. Denounced and condemned.
JD (b98cae) — 7/14/2011 @ 6:58 pmthere’s no such thing as gratuitous assaults on the poor
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:08 pmYou criticized Obama?
OFF WITH YOUR HEAD
/Nancy Pelousy the red queen
DohBiden (15aa57) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:13 pmI’m starting to think that one of the more likely scenarios for next year is Obama loses and the Dems retake the House and keep the Senate. What would happen then is unfortunately nothing could get done but the Pubbie gets blamed for the economy.
Gerald A (9d78e8) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:16 pmNah.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:18 pm“Robert”, how is SarahPAC raising $1.6M a bad result? What are you comparing it to? How much did you expect it to raise? $1.6M seems a pretty good result to me; the PAC covered its expenses during a period when it did very little fundraising, and even put a bit aside; unlike the government.
And yeah, all 0bama’s cronies to whom he’s funneled millions of our dollars have given him the max they’re allowed to. What does that prove, except that he’s corrupt? Meanwhile the Republicans haven’t got a candidate yet, so all the people wanting to give to 0bama’s challenger will have to wait until one has been chosen. Then we’ll see how much she raises.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:20 pmThat’s what will certainly happen if the GOP backs down and lets 0bama get away without serious and enforceable spending cuts.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:22 pmThat’s what will certainly happen if the GOP backs down and lets 0bama get away without serious and enforceable spending cuts.
If they DO get the spending cuts then you get NY-26 all over the country. The Dems scare the seniors and pick up lots of seats, but people vote for the Republican because they see Obama as incompetent. It would be similar to the old election patterns of 30-50 years ago.
Gerald A (9d78e8) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:27 pmI mean vote for the Republican Presidential candidate.
Gerald A (9d78e8) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:28 pmRonnie Jr strongly resents being called a “former” ballerina!
Icy Texan (3ee41e) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:34 pmSo, while the Arab world thinks that Obama is worse than Bush (what happened to Yelverton’s fondness for polling?) …
Republicans defend gays in the military against the Obama administration’s attempts to keep expelling open gays. Note that my little spin is still more honest than Yelverton’s treatment of links.
SPQR (26be8b) — 7/14/2011 @ 7:51 pmObama’s total
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:02 pmdwarf has been
electedappointed damayor of ChiTown
🙄 Gotta love the lack of confidence.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:10 pmIf you’re right then the Congressional GOP is doomed no matter what they do, so they may as well go down for doing the right thing rather than the wrong one. There’s no point in winning elections if you’re just going to behave like Democrats. Let the real Ds do that.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:14 pmAmen. The idea the GOP can’t cut spending because they would get blamed, and if they don’t, they get blamed for the deficit, and also, let’s blame them for unemployment too… it gets a little old.
I know they need to play politics to an extent, but we all know spending is far too high. It’s clear we cannot afford current entitlement programs. Give the American people a clear choice between getting that fixed or the Obama juggling of problems unsolved.
I can’t say I know the American people will support doing the right thing. Murkowski beating Miller has greatly changed my prediction of how ready we are to be responsible. But the GOP can’t survive by being a state expanding party. They should fear the Tea Party more than the democrat one.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:19 pmWhat about McConnell’s option? It lets Republicans avoid the government shutdown trap, but is the price worth it if Obama’s spending cuts are a sham and it lets Obama raise the debt limit repeatedly between now and the election? There are real risks to kicking the can down the road like this, but sometimes kicking the can is all you’ve got.
DRJ (fdd243) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:31 pmThey surely would be. You’d have to blatantly write, in 100 ways, that he can’t call a tax hike a spending cut, too.
But while I initially resented the hell out of McConnell’s plan, I actually think it’s one of the least bad options we have.
It’s hard to ignore that if Obama isn’t bluffing (And whether he realizes it, his administration is certainly not bluffing) then a lot of Americans will probably suffer for it. Now isn’t the time to screw up the economy any worse.
I think most Tea Partiers can accept that we do not have sufficient political power for real reform as long as democrats control the WH and Senate. Kicking the can down the road until that changes is not optional.
But if taxes are raised, all bets are off.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 8:38 pmComment by DRJ — 7/14/2011 @ 8:31 pm
There’s another potential option in which the House votes to raise the debt limit, but only by the amount needed to make the interest payments. Any other spending that Obama needs (i.e., to avoid a government shutdown) will have to be found by extracting savings from another government programs. Kevin Williamson writes about this over at the Corner. I don’t know enough to opine on whether this is Constitutional or not, but it is an intriguing idea.
JVW (39c649) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:00 pmHas the MFM called Teh One out on his LIE about SS checks being at risk?
JD (318f81) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:15 pmI cannot imagine OConnell’s plan ever even being voted on in the House.
JD (318f81) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:21 pm==Has the MFM called Teh One out on his LIE about SS checks being at risk?==
JD, I suspect you already know the answer to that question, but you’re so cute when you’re viciously snarky and we all appreciate it very much.
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:22 pmThere’s no balanced budget to be had what justifies Eric Cantor’s shocking impudence.
Obama was genuinely offended and who can blame him.
You don’t just up and offer someone a compromise like that I don’t care who you are.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:29 pmI don’t understand Kevin’s proposal, via JVW.
We can meet our debt payments without a debt ceiling increase, if we do not pay some of the other expenses.
My one concern is that we do not hike taxes with the economy in this state.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:31 pmHow’s it been, Happyfeet?
The media is really out to trash Cantor recently, I’ve noticed. This is how it always works. Any time the dems are having a bad time, they have to find some republican to demonize. Young ‘unseasoned’ Cantor, speaking out of turn in the face of our great Emperor in his awesome clothes.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:36 pmI don’t understand Kevin’s proposal, via JVW.
I think the reason it doesn’t resonate with thinking people is because it is so blatantly political. The GOP somehow calls Obama’s bluff by saying, “OK, we agree to raise the debt limit in order to make interest payments on the debt, but that’s all.” Supposedly then, Obama has to actually implement program cuts in order to get the money to meet Social Security obligations. It’s gimmicky, but I guess the idea is that it removes the specter of debt default as this catastrophic event.
And of course, Obama’s allies in the media would figure out a way to spin this as Eric Cantor’s fault. Or Michelle Bachmann, if they can figure out how to connect those dots.
JVW (39c649) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:48 pmHow dare Eric Cantor not go along with Obama.
Are you surprised at Crappyfeet’s arrogance?
DohBiden (15aa57) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:50 pmYeah, I see. They just shut down one of the most damaging bluffs being made by Obama.
So what if I think it’s not really necessary? It’s politics.
I have no objection to that. I worry it’s too late to avoid some kind of major shutdown. I just hope the troops get paid (I believe Kevin suggested we just legislate that as well, which we should).
I don’t know what to make of any of this. Obama needs the economy to turn around more than he needs any stunt to screw with the GOP. his behavior is not doing the economy any good. You’d think someone in his administration would remember why Bill Clinton was reelected.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 9:58 pmThe GOP somehow calls Obama’s bluff by saying, “OK, we agree to raise the debt limit in order to make interest payments on the debt, but that’s all.”
I am totally cool with this. Th House should pass this tomorrow. Then the next day, 2.5trillion in actual cuts. Then another balanced budget amendment. Then vote on Barcky’s budget proposal, again. Dump it all on Hairy Reid.
JD (318f81) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:01 pmhi Mr. Dustin I’ve been here just been quiet mostly – I was on vacation! Sorta. I had a vacation planned but then it got messed up but I still had the days off. So a good time was had by all anyways.
Did you see National Soros Radio giving Mr. Cantor the what-for?
Personally I think they went easy on him. That boy needs a time out until he can sit in a negotiation and not be offering up compromises and such. He knows that’s not how his mama raised him up.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:02 pmHappyfeet, sorry your vacation didn’t work out as planned. We just had a few days off as well here at Casa Dustino. Spent the time on home improvement and eating watermelon from the backyard.
I hadn’t seen the NPR attack, but strangely I’ve read a couple of articles almost identical to it. It’s almost as though the MSM is taking marching orders again. Gee.
Hell yes.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:08 pmhttp://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/14/oh-my-generic-republican-47-obama-39/
Suck it, Yelverton.
JD (318f81) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:11 pmLive video of Mr Velvetron reading JD’s link as it slowly dawns on him that Obama is an OTP.
Just like Carter.
Dustin (b7410e) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:14 pm“Republican Candidate” Extends Lead vs. Obama to 47% to 39%” Gallup
This is why poor Eric’s getting the Alinsky treatment from OFA, the left blogosphere and the MSM. They’re scared to death! An unknown, faceless, generic, Republican player to be named later is creaming Barry in the 2012 Presidential poll and the Dems don’t know who to go after cuz there’s not even a front runner yet. So Cantor’s the surrogate villain for now. It’s actually kind of funny when you think about it that way. How embarrassing and humiliating this must be for Obama to see such a great number of voters prefer literally anybody over him.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/148487/Republican-Candidate-Extends-Lead-Obama.aspx
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:17 pmSorry, JD I hadn’t seen your post of the new Gallup survey before I commented and linked it, too.
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:20 pmwatermelon is very America I think
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:22 pmElissa – I am still mad about yu calling me cute. Dashing, perhaps. Debonaire, indeed. Cute? Never.
JD (318f81) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:35 pm____________________________________________
Q: What do Rahm Emmanuel and Ronnie Jr. have in common, other than the obvious, that they are two mendacious, leftwing weezuls?
The latter was born in 1958, so he’s around 53 years old. There is something stunted and immature about a person well past his high school and college years who’s still wedded to leftist politics. It’s like an adult riding around on a tricycle and wearing footed pajamas.
I recall Ron Jr at his father’s funeral and the cheap way he politicized the occasion, by using his eulogy to cast a not-so-veiled dagger at George W Bush. Reagan’s pathetic son has struck me before and after such events as the epitome of wide variety of folks on the left who fancy themselves as so compassionate and humane — certainly more so than their political opposites — but who in actuality, and in reality, aren’t.
Emmanuel is reportedly a foul-mouthed jerk, and he’s no less leftwing than someone like Ron Jr. So he also comes to mind when pondering the irony that leftist sentiment not only doesn’t make a person truly humane, compassionate and generous, it actually does just the opposite.
Mark (411533) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:38 pmLOL, JD. OK, I stand corrected. From here on out I’ll try to think of you more in the Pierce Brosnan or Sean Connery mold.
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:42 pmi like watermelon. and cherries. and chinese gooseberries, which nowadays they call kiwifruit, and which ignorant yanks sometimes call kiwis, which are birds or people or shoepolish but not fruit.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:46 pmYou do realize that I was joking, no?
JD (318f81) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:48 pmLook, JD, as long as you can absolutely guarantee that you don’t look like Henry Waxman or Barney Frank it’s all good…..
elissa (8bb103) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:54 pmThat I can swear to, and many others can attest to.
JD (318f81) — 7/14/2011 @ 10:56 pmI can back him up on that.
Machinist (b6f7da) — 7/15/2011 @ 2:05 amWhat time is the lecture/hectoring/campaign speech from i/me/my ?
JD (306f5d) — 7/15/2011 @ 5:09 am“Look, JD, as long as you can absolutely guarantee that you don’t look like Henry Waxman or Barney Frank it’s all good…..”
elissa – You’re invited to broccoli night next time JD’s in town.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/15/2011 @ 6:14 amWe should have an open thread so we can write Teh One’s campaign speech/lecture before he gives it. I will start. I will start … I am above the fray, only seeking to do the will of the people and anyone that does not agree with me is engaged in childish partisan politics. I must reduce expenditures in the tax code by killing and eating all job creators especially fat cats in corporate jets who are only using those because I gave the tax break that I mewl about today and tebaggers suck and everyone must compromise except me, and here is my list of 862 programs that must never be touched.
JD (d48c3b) — 7/15/2011 @ 6:49 amFalsum in uno, falsum in omnibus:
Barack Obama, his accomplices in Congress, and the UPDRCR’s in the MFMSM, have largely succeeded in reducing the current debate over the debt limit to a false choice: raise taxes or default.
That one simple but clever rhetorical device puts them well over half way to the tax increase they need to ensure victory over the Stupid Party in the coming 2012 elections.
The choice really isn’t between more taxes or a default, it’s between higher taxes and spending reductions, both avoid the false alternative of default.
By ignoring spending cuts Obama is trying to force Republicans to betray their conservative base, especially the TEA Party, just like Democrats did to George H.W. Bush. He promised “No new taxes” and when he reneged on his word it cost him the Presidency at a time when his popularity and approval ratings were astonishingly high. Bush betrayed the conservative base and they sat out the election in disgust.
Which is exactly what will happen to the GOP this time around if they roll over on a tax increase.
ropelight (416004) — 7/15/2011 @ 6:50 amDon’t call my bluff, bro.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/15/2011 @ 6:53 amThere’s lots of cowardly senators like John McCain and Princess Lindsey what are eager eager eager to drop trou and spread their cheeks.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/15/2011 @ 6:53 amYou’re invited to broccoli night next time JD’s in town.
Sorry, WH mandate: it’s peas and only peas. We all have to sacrifice.
Dana (b17ada) — 7/15/2011 @ 6:54 amReagan’s pathetic son has struck me before
that silly savage
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 7:05 amI bet it was one of those
foppish limp wrist swipes
The Dems are demanding spending increases in the negotiations. Spending increases. Try to get your head around that.
And, they are being so unserious that they took cuts they agreed to off the table and now demand new taxes to buy back what they previously agreed to.
Boehner and Mitch should demand that al proposals be made in writing, or on live TV. Good Allah.
JD (0d2ffc) — 7/15/2011 @ 7:08 am😯 I do not wanna see the mental image of John Mccain spreading his buttcheeks.
Honestly Happyfeet should be sued for that.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 7/15/2011 @ 7:11 amthe clock is ticking on bumble’s deadline they have less than 30 hours left
chop chop Team R
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/15/2011 @ 7:12 amI am waiting for the presentation of President BumbleF’s plan.
If not now, when?
Robert, when will we see the greasy azzed socialist’s plan, what with its bendings over backwards, along with its CBO scoring.
If not now, when?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/15/2011 @ 7:16 amDaddy Soros never lets bumble see the whole plan I don’t think – he likes to keep him guessing
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 7/15/2011 @ 7:21 amDaleyrocks – they should point to his budget proposal as absolute evidence how not even close to serious Barcky and the Dems are being in this. If I were Boehner, I woiuld vote on Barcky’s budget every day in the House until the campaignet in chief put a formal proposal together. This BS mediator role is tiresome.
JD (109425) — 7/15/2011 @ 7:23 amPOTUS might be distracted by more important matters at hand.
Dana (b17ada) — 7/15/2011 @ 7:25 amrisk Armageddon
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 7:25 am“don’t you call my bluff” Cantor
walls come tumbling down
c’mon c’mon down
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 7:28 amsweet Virginia got to
scrape O right off shoe
‘“Republican Candidate” Extends Lead vs. Obama to 47% to 39%” Gallup’
That’s encouraging news. Now all we need to do is find an actual REAL Republican to run against him.
Dave Surls (3ea380) — 7/15/2011 @ 7:38 amLying liar’s press conference.
Hopes everyone can prove they are serious about getting our fiscal house in order.
He ignores the recommendations of his fiscal commission.
He submits a ridiculous budget that is rejected by the Senate 97-0 and has not yet submitted a replacement.
He claims to have put a number of things on the table but has reserved a large number of items as protected and has not offered specifics.
He jumps into the process at the last minute and demands others present a plan when he has already abdicated his responsibilities.
Avoiding leadership and blame are the hallmarks of his career.
WINNING!!!!!!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:10 amObama complains $2.4 trillion over ten years is taking a big bite, but baseline spending, including “one-time” $800 billion stimulus is up over $1 trillion annually since Democrats took over Congress. I call BS.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:14 amStones no Quo Yo O
Timeslaiku (0b8e46) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:14 amyou’re in the sky and with the sky
you make men cry you lie
chuck todd grew a pair?
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:27 amwho knew stranger things happen
the shuffle and jive
Obama has HOPE
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:28 amso so very good to know
the stench make me clench
Moreover, along with Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, Mr. Obama warns that fiscal Armageddon is coming unless the ceiling is lifted before Aug. 2 – the date Mr. Geithner claims the United States begins defaulting to its debtors.
Too bad that’s a blatant lie–a default only occurs if the country doesn’t pay the interest on the current debt, and spends more than it takes in.
In essence, going over the debt ceiling means that the government would have to run a balanced budget. THAT’S the real reason Obama’s freaking out–he knows damn well that with running two wars (and two shadow ones in Yemen and Libya), and with entitlements taking up ALL of federal income (and over half of all federal spending), mathematically he wouldn’t be able to kick the can anymore.
That’s why he’s threatening fiscal armageddon, and why he confirmed this week that the Social Security “trust fund” doesn’t actually exist. It’s because he doesn’t have the balls to tell Americans the same thing I’ve been saying since 2008–the 54-year party’s over, and it’s time for the country to get it’s fiscal house in order.
Another Chris (c983db) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:28 amWe don’t need more studies. The numbers are obvious. The good nes is this doesn’t require us to do anything radical.”
Then why does Obama threaten that SS payments will be cut off or that the choice is between college education or tax cuts for millionaires? Why does he keep creating commissions and committees to do his work for him instead of presenting a plan himself?
No leadership.
OTP
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:28 amrepeat after me
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:31 am“revenues” just mean tax hikes
Ministry of Truth
that’s right daleyrocks
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:33 amand not one of these clowns call
him on it… shameless
colonel know the drill
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:35 amwhen barcky obama say
“rigid positions”
O lead from behind
Timeslaiku (0b8e46) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:35 ammake best walkout performance
since John Belushi
expecting answers
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:37 am“tough on Dimocrat side too”
murder now orphan
Obama now say
Timeslaiku (0b8e46) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:38 am80 percent want tax hike
Ministry of Truth
It is tough for the CBO to score speeches.
When will we see Obama’s plan to prove his seriousness about getting our fiscal house in order?
If not now, when?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:39 amnow that’s leadership!
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:39 amsay what? do the hustle! now
go on vacation
Platitudes are not dollars.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:40 amPermanent campaign. LOL!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:40 amIf he demands that we follow polls, why isn’t the repeal of BarckCare on the table?
JD (318f81) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:41 amHigh speed rail critical for Winning the Future. You must not cut. Lulz!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:42 amwhen debt grow faster
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:42 amthan economy you know
hip deep in sheep dip
Shut up Fareed. CNN nutjobs.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:43 amGood revenue raiser – Sell more guns to Mexico!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:44 amplease hike my taxes
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:45 amBarack Hussein Obama
just call Ronnie Deutch
peter beinart say
ColonelHaiku (cc5c75) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:48 ama masterful performance!
now where my Kleenex®?
Kleenex® have double
Timeslaiku (0b8e46) — 7/15/2011 @ 8:59 ammeaning and I don’t think one
is cutting onions
“POTUS might be distracted by more important matters at hand.”
Like what?
Is Michelle running low on cheeseburgers, or something?
Dave Surls (3ea380) — 7/15/2011 @ 9:04 amI love that facepalm pic. Can I use it Aaron?
^..^(____)~~~
The Cheshirecat (0cd6a2) — 7/17/2011 @ 11:51 am