Meet The Puppets! A #Weinergate Chart
[Guest Post by LEE STRANAHAN]
Having trouble keeping track of the #Weinergate post-game sock puppet theater? Can’t tell your Nikki from your Veronica from your Wolfe? Here’s a handy reference guide to the sock puppets and claimed connections between them! It has zero design esthetic but it does help clear things up!
As Anthony Weiner may (or may not) have said – “Click it – it gets bigger!”
The dates / time that @JohnReid9 and @MarkAli33 were created is interesting.
– Lee Stranahan
Lee,
I do not have access to Twitter from this computer.
What are the create dates for:
@MarineliaAlicia
@Markali33
@PatriotUSA76
slp (347e33) — 6/28/2011 @ 2:57 amCorrection:
What are the create dates for:
@MarineliaAlicia
@PatriotUSA76
slp (347e33) — 6/28/2011 @ 3:05 amWhen did @starchild111 switch names?
koam (62b38e) — 6/28/2011 @ 3:22 amThanks for the handy chart.
I prefer mocking these obvious comment thread frauds over pretending to take them seriously in order to elicit information…that said, I am CERTAIN the date/time thing is mere COINCIDENCE.
CausticConservative (b29599) — 6/28/2011 @ 5:08 amIs there any evidence of any interaction between the starchild111 account and Rep. Weiner while the name on the account was Jenny George?
Nathan Wagner (01c83e) — 6/28/2011 @ 5:11 amum, yeah, i had even kind of lost the plot. so thanks.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 6/28/2011 @ 5:12 amIs it Seattle545 or 545Seattle, or both?
When did Jenay become Nikki?
Do we know who Jenay’s 11 Twitter followers were?
http://74.6.117.48/search/srpcache?ei=UTF-8&p=HTTP://TWITTER.COM/STARCHILD111&fr=yfp-t-701&u=http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=HTTP://TWITTER.COM/STARCHILD111&d=4738964055069054&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=103056d3,77902c9f&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=GEH7P7p9pkuWF2dPrju.6A–
koam (62b38e) — 6/28/2011 @ 5:44 amWolves, not wolfes.
pedantic2011 (8cbc95) — 6/28/2011 @ 7:42 amhonestly who still gives a shit about any of this? move on already
tgs (180095) — 6/28/2011 @ 7:55 amWhat are those caps of the accounts from ?
RocksEm (e1d29d) — 6/28/2011 @ 7:55 am==Wolves, not wolfes==
I think it’s meant to be a play on Dan Wolfe’s name, pedantic.
elissa (2eec7e) — 6/28/2011 @ 8:09 amI thought 8., then thought some more, and thought 10.
koam (62b38e) — 6/28/2011 @ 8:13 amA good start. Nice job Lee. Any chance for making a timeline / flow chart as well? *
People absorb information through visuals today. All the word people here sometimes forget that the rest of the world does not read at their level.
*Said the person who dodged doing the work 😀
bmertz (d77c52) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:54 amIn what sense is Jenny George a real person?
You’ve absolutely confirmed that to be the real name of the creator of the starchild111 account?
If so…what suggests that person is not also the related sock puppets?
Crispian (70c05e) — 6/28/2011 @ 9:58 amNice chart Lee. This whole affair is so complicated that it is very useful to have some graphics to keep things organized. It would improve the chart to include important dates such as:
1. when did Jenay change her name / icon to Nikki Reid? (you could include that on the blue arrow)
2. When did Nikki Reid first Tweet ? When did Betty?
3. When was the Marianela Alecea account created? When did she become friends with Nikki?
4. When did Patricia Reid talk with Tommy Christopher on the phone?
5. When was the Dan Wolfe account created?
lamchopsl (a91fe8) — 6/28/2011 @ 11:07 am13. Crispian
JGMA called Lee and said that’s her name and that she owned @starchild111. She gave Lee a professor’s name. Prof & wife confirmed to Lee that JGMA is a person they know. A JGMA also filed a report with police who then went to her home to follow up. So that’s the level of confirmation, as I understand it.. Not like the prof was in the room looking at JGMA to confirm or that there was a 3-way call.
Someone could call you saying they were me, offer a few facts, and give the name of my professor who you call and ask if I’m a real person with these facts…and if prof says yes I’m real…dunno if that proves it’s me. Depends on how much caller knows about me and how much is used with prof for confirmation.
There may have been other confirmatory details that Lee described in the process that I’m not naming here….but I think it’s on his Radio show from June 20.
koam (62b38e) — 6/28/2011 @ 11:58 amHi Lamchopsl,
Here is some good screen captures by milowent that captured the earliest recorded tweets from Starchild111 as of last August. In typical twitter fashion, please start at the bottom and read up…
http://milowent.blogspot.com/2011/06/my-screengrabs-of-nikki-betty-and-mari.html
Joe
Joe Smith (54c0c1) — 6/28/2011 @ 3:47 pmLee,
Why don’t you embed links ( to the relevant screen captures) within each sockpuppets bubble? For example, in the NIkki bubble, make “starchild” into a link for milowent’s early Nikki screen captures.
I think the graphics will help spread this story. A timeline (with tweet resource links) explaining each sockpuppet’s actions will also make a big difference, and help prevent that glazed-over eye expression whenever anyone tries to explain this complex story to the uninitiated. Especially to LAW enforcement officers. It appears they will need the resource in the near future.
bmertz (d77c52) — 6/28/2011 @ 4:02 pmPatriotusa76 started tweeting on January 6, according to Jennifer Preston’s first Weinergate twitter story.
BETTY and VERONICA were Tommy Christopher’s code names for Nikki and Marianella Alicia.
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 6/28/2011 @ 4:44 pmReviewing the timeline around the creation of the @JohnReid9 and @MarkAli33 accounts is very interesting.
A. Weiner tweets his meat @ 11:30 Friday 5/27.
The @JohnReid9 and @MarkAli33 accounts are created within 30 minutes of each other at the beginning of 5/29- @24 hrs after the meat tweet.
Betty and Veronica (Mediaite created pseudonyms for people they believe to be Nikki Reid and Marianela Alicea) are first mentioned on Friday 6/3 in this Mediaite article by Tommy Christopher:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/andrew-breitbart-did-not-run-weinergate-evidence-which-turned-out-to-be-fabricated/2/
In the above article Christopher says:
The Sunday afternoon story referenced in the above paragraph is date stamped 3:31 pm, May 29th, approximately 15 hours after the creation of the @JohnReid9 and @MarkAli33 accounts:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/rep-weiner-still-claims-twitter-account-hacked-though-big-questions-still-remain/
So it seems reasonable to conclude that the @JohnReid9 account was used to contact and feed a story to Mediaite Sunday morning, just a few hours after it was created.
The fact that the JohnReid9 and @MarkAli33 accounts were created within 30 minutes of eachother and were both used to provide corroborating bogus stories to Mediaite is extremely suggestive that they were both created by the same entity.
lamchops (a91fe8) — 6/28/2011 @ 5:55 pmHi Sammy Finkelman,
Post #19: Dan Wolfe’s initial post was a retweet on 1/6 based on Topsy.
source: http://topsy.com/twitter/patriotusa76?nohidden=1&offset=990&om=aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa&page=100
Joe
Joe Smith (54c0c1) — 6/29/2011 @ 12:12 amThe Topsy site shows patriotusa76’s slogan
[Conservative Reagan Republican. No Obamacare, socialism, sharia. Proud of the USA & Proud to be an American with NO apologies. No elitists need apply.]
…and that his avatar was a picture of Ronald Reagan.
You don’t see the name Dan Wolfe in that archive, so I am not sure where a name shows up. He had altogether 1001 tweets ending “30 days ago” but the account is still not deleted, unlike that for Genette Nicole. It doesn’t give hour and minute for tweets.
It seems to contain the whole episode – patriotusa76 says the reason Weiner said Facebook was hacked was he was preparing some kind of defense. It looks completely on the up and up.` He says he doesn’t work for Breitbart. He didn’t set up Weiner. He did not lie or hack anything. It was real. GC says “I never said or implied that he was behind the tweet.” Patriotusa76 says they should arrest him, charge him or shut up. And this is the last thing:
patriotusa76: @AceofSpadesHQ I guess now I’m a “prankster” – is that an upgrade from hacker? LOL
Sammy Finkelman (907727) — 6/29/2011 @ 10:10 amThe diagram left out Juan2487 who became Juan_Dodgers. That account, and that of Marianela were created, according to GC a little after she had commented to Nikki that she had no friends on Twitter.
There were 3 icons for the starchild111 account. First was the default Twitter egg (no photo uploaded) which lasted till mid-May – also after GN mentioned to her that there was no picture. Then you had the picture of the girl and the dog. Toward the end this was replaced by a falling star graphic.
The name Jenay was changed to Nikki Reid sometime after January 1.
Sammy Finkelman (907727) — 6/29/2011 @ 10:24 amThere’s a claim on one of the screen grans in this page:
ttp://milowent.blogspot.com/2011/06/my-screengrabs-of-nikki-betty-and-mari.html
From the Ginger Lee page? Or what is supposed to be the Ginger Lee page?
It says there in the middle of the page (and I think I recall reading that factoid somewhere)
Jan 6, 2011 – @patriotusa76 starts tweeting, focusing on @RepWeiner from start
19 tweets in 1st hour of tweeting, all about weiner & weiner’s wife
The only thing is, the topsy cache does not show anything like this!
Even if they could have been selectively erased, there are no replies as far as I know.
So who did that?
Who put that on the Ginger Lee screengrab page?
REMBRANDT I guess — the same person who did the screengrabs uploaded by seattle545 on June 20 (the second upload – on June 18 seattle545 only posted some messages between GC and Nikki.
REMBRANDT (possible person) needs to be in the diagram as well, along with SOCKREID and the RED BARON (SOCKREID’s boss)
We probably have at least 4 people behind this.
I don’t think REMBRANDT and JG are the same person – the second set of screengrabs posted by seattle545 have the 7 putative messages between Weiner and GC in jumbled order.
I think JANE AUSTIN sent them to SOCKREID and REMBRANDT was given the task of making them into likely looking screen grabs, but the RED BARON maybe called up ad said you had to get them out and so REMBRANDT left them in completely messed up order.
Sammy Finkelman (907727) — 6/29/2011 @ 10:40 amI don’t think it’s likely that Jennifer George is the real name of the original owner of the starchild111 account.
I would call this person – who possibly did all the female voices on the phone – JANE AUSTEN.
JANE AUSTIN has been writing many of documents in the document dump.
The name Jennifer George can be explained this way:
Jane Austin -> Jane A – >Jenay -> Jenny -> Jennifer.
The name George comes from George Eliot – famous female writer who pretended to be a man to all but her publisher, and her novels, of course had many male characters.
Jane Austin + George Elliot leads to portmanteau name: Jennifer George.
Sammy Finkelman (907727) — 6/29/2011 @ 11:01 amThat should, of course, have been JANE AUSTEN – with an E, not an I. (Not like the city in Texas)
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 6/29/2011 @ 3:33 pmThere was also a patriotUSA90210 with the pseudonym Walter Plinge who appeared on twitter from about June 10 to June 24. (Noticed or posted about by SarahW on June 20)
He was anti Gennette Cordova and told eople not to trust her.
See: http://badjournalist.blogspot.com/2011/06/johnreid9-tweets.html
According to Lee Stranahan, the account was deleted right after he did a screen dump of IP addresses, which (I think he is saying) he believed linked patriotusa90210 to seattle545. (he’s talking about the second series of postings by seattle545, on June 20, because there were two, the first one, on June 18, being several probably genuine messages between GC and Nikki Reid.
It is not clear to me but maybe he got IP addresses because they both posted on his website.
https://patterico.com/2011/06/24/your-friday-morning-weinergate-crazy-update/#comments
People connected it to Bloomington, Illinois, or Dallas, or Phoenix or Seattle.
As for the name Walter Plinge, first I associated this PWNGE but then later found something better.
A Wikipedia article says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Plinge
“Walter Plinge is a pseudonym, traditionally used in London theatres when a part has not been cast, an actor is playing two parts, or an actor does not want his or her name in the programme. Plinge was supposedly a real London publican, honoured by a group of actors with the borrowing of his name.
The name has also been used occasionally in American theatre, as has the more popular George Spelvin. Similar pseudonyms are David Agnew at the BBC and Alan Smithee in Hollywood.
In literature, Walter Plinge is a character in Terry Pratchett’s novel, Maskerade.”
Meanwhile, Walter Pwnge or Pwnage has some interesting references.
Google returns things like
Here Excel skillz + photo skillz + alot of free time = Walter PWNAGE
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fGRlPX0I12gJ:www.s2katlanta.com/forum/showthread.php%3F10000-Group-buy-on-brake-duct-kits/page2+%22Walter+PWNAGE%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
Go down to Number 28.
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The name Nikki Reid, of course, is very similar to Nikki Reed, the actress. At the age of 15, she starred in and co-wrote the 2003 movie “13”, about high school girls who get into drugs, sex, and tattoos.
(Although she played a different role than the one she wanted. She didn’t want to play the really bad girl, but the one who becomes her follower.)
Sammy Finkelman (d3daeb) — 7/1/2011 @ 1:23 pm