Video of Weiner’s Mea Culpa (Update: The Conference Was a Fake (A Daily Kos Parody))
[Guest post by Aaron Worthing; if you have tips, please send them here. Or by Twitter @AaronWorthing.]
I haven’t even watched it yet, but this appears to be pretty thorough. I will try to hunt down the Breitbart pregame show later.
Commentary will surely follow, too. Look for any updates to this story in this thread (until and unless we start a new thread…).
Update: Reason has “the screencap no representative (or their significant other) wants to see”
Update (II): A lot of people are being very nasty to Lee today. Let me say this. You do not judge a person by 20/20 hindsight. You judge them by what was reasonable at the time. The unfair left says that somehow Bush should have figured out Saddam didn’t have (many) WMDs, even though Tenet told him the case was a slam dunk and even though fifteen nations agreed that Saddam had WMD’s in UN Resolution 1441. Reasonable people, though, recognize that a person can only use the information at hand.
The fact was that it was suspicious that Dan Wolfe caught the tweet within, by his own description, five seconds. But it turned out the the answer is simply this: Dan Wolfe was obsessed with Weiner, for whatever reason, and thus he was so attentive of Weiner’s account that the second he made a mistake he was there to catch it.
But there is a crucial difference between being wrong, and being unreasonable given the facts known at the time. It is by that standard that Lee should be judged, as you would want to be judged if you should ever make a mistake in a situation with incomplete information. And if Lee is a bad guy for entertaining theories that Weiner’s account might have been hacked, and that Dan Wolfe was perhaps a woman wronged in some other way, then I am a bad guy, too. I entertained the same theories and I would have written more on it, but for the fact that I felt that the story was Lee’s own, and I wanted him full credit and glory if it panned out. But if you want to chide him because it didn’t pan out, then chide me too.
Sorry to vent, but I have seen a lot of people, especially on Twitter, attacking him today.
Update (III): Mike Stack says a few words in defense of Lee, too.
Update (IV): Do not miss this parody of DailyKos on DailyKos. Best line:
I know Anthony Weiner would never do anything like this is because, you see, we’ve never met. But we share many political views.
Seriously read it (and let me know if it goes down. I saved the text.
[Posted and authored by Aaron Worthing.]
Has Stranahan resigned yet?
Gerry (fc5dbc) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:16 pmCNN called. They have a job for him.
Sponge Bob Torquemada (fccc6f) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:17 pmThe deflection continued ..
1) It was a joke that ended poorly
2) .. but most occurred b/f my marriage
…… funny.
Sponge Bob Torquemada (fccc6f) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:20 pm… to the best of knowledge they were adults
Sponge Bob Torquemada (fccc6f) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:21 pmI have no problem with Lee’s theorizing. It was reasonable based on what we knew at the time.
I thought he was wrong, but there was nothing ruling out his theory.
Weiner made the apologizing all about the base acts, from what I saw, and not so much about the accusations of hacking and stings and such. And the latter is the more egregious to me. Sending those photos to adults (assuming still they were adults or he at least believed that they were) is inappropriate, not criminal.
Ridicule remains the most appropriate action going forward. Keep him tagged with this.
Dan S (e3abd8) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:35 pmSorry, I gotta call BULLSHIT! One of the girls that Stack and Christopher interviewed asked him to take her to the prom, ADULTS don’t go to proms. HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS go to proms…. and BOTH girls’ twitter feeds were obviously coming from teenagers. There is NO WAY he could NOT have known they were under age. NONE.
Rorschach (c5574d) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:36 pmI disagreed with Lee, but I greatly appreciate his desire to look at a lot of different angles. Sometimes you’re right, sometimes your wrong.
MayBee (081489) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:38 pmI agree with Aaron… the difference between the right and the left is that despite disagreeing with a given theory (I thought Lee was way to in love with his theory despite the evidence). WE CAN ADMIT THAT WE WERE WRONG. Just look at the left wing sites now… We were, uh, kinda wrong, but Breitbart is still more wrong and it’s not a big deal anyway
JFH (6579fb) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:44 pmOh, I disagreed with Lee on this, but didn’t think anything of it, or less of him, because of it.
I didn’t get to check out Twitter today, but am suprised at him being savaged for simply seeking the truth.
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:45 pmI wonder if this is gonna affect Weiner’s workout motivation not having any wanton twitterhoochie’s to get all pumped up for just huma
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:48 pmoh. twitterhoochies did not need an apostrophe sorry
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:48 pmI can’t believe anyone would blame Lee for pursuing an interesting theory. The circumstances were a little weird, and it’s not like no one would have a motivation to want to bring down a member of Congress.
I’m glad he ran it down. It turned out to be a bit of a dead end, but it was something that someone ought to pursue.
Rob (1858aa) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:53 pmFrom “My Story” at Big Gov:
Talking to him was sometimes a turn-off because he was so open and just so full of himself, as if he were looking, searching for something. I don’t know if he loved telling me his personal business. I didn’t want him to say more, didn’t want to hear stories about sex with famous people. But I guess he needed to express himself.
See? It’s about exhibitionism, not about sexual relations.
MayBee (081489) — 6/6/2011 @ 2:58 pmWhen people ask, “Why would he take that risk?” the answer is, the risk is what he’s after. The attention from a stranger is what he wants, the knowledge that he can get girls by asking them to sign up to tweet #WeinerYes. That isn’t a means, that’s an end.
it appears that this story is reaching a climax and interest in it swells…
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:04 pmthis second photo TMZ has here I don’t remember ever seeing on Big Government
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:06 pmas interest…
stupid fingers/
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:07 pmmaybe is just upside down?
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:08 pmThanks very much, Aaron.
I also floated a theory that explained how it could have been an accident.
Lee Stranahan (708cc3) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:08 pmyeah that’s it… Breitbart has his one upside down
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:09 pmThe criticism should not be based on being a “bad guy”, but rather on the avoidance of basic common sense in inventing needless bizarre, Rube Goldberg fantasies. Totally wrong focus – and I suspect most people look elsewhere (e.g. NetFlix or Hulu) for their “entertainment” anyway.
Better to learn from Sgt. Friday’s sage idiom: “Just the fact’s, Ma’am”. Can’t go wrong with that.
Jay S. (79f341) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:10 pmI’m strangely glad that I decided to sit this imbroglio out.
The Sanity Inspector (ef5d4d) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:11 pmWizbang has a couple of entries jokingly headlined, “Charles Johnson Suicide Watch.” I did chuckle at that.
(First time using the link button here. Let’s hope I didn’t mess it up.)
Mitch (890cbf) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:15 pmChecking the comments on one far left site. They don’t care about the photos or the sexting. They’re somewhat disappointed that he lied to the media. But they are livid that — here lemme quote it —
…and…
aunursa (a2a019) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:18 pmLee was reporting. He never gave a fact without attribution and his speculation were leads he followed. Give the guy a break. Ninety percent of the news industry quit being that thorough twenty years ago.
Birdbath (19803d) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:18 pmWell said, Jay S.
I admire Lee for following the evidence no matter where it takes him, or at least having that in mind as he followed something other than real evidence, and then doubled down a few times.
Ace of Spaces was right all along. The simple explanation is the correct one. PatriotUSA didn’t like Weiner. Weiner accidentally posted something publicly. PatriotUSA told the truth because he it makes Weiner look bad.
PatriotUSA’s treatment is a stark warning against telling the truth about your congressman. Guess what: a lot of people are afraid of being treated with the utmost suspicion. They do not post their phone numbers and real names publicly, and they shouldn’t have to when the facts are easy to verify. Once PatriotUSA’s claims were verified, the people noting he was not the story were correct.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:19 pmdidn’t Weiner also lie again when he said that he hadn’t seen any of today’s Breitbart pictures?
when did the pictures come out and when did our favorite twitterslut congressman announce his press conference?
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:21 pmLay off Lee! Don’t assume the facts are in, we aren’t anywhere near the straight story yet. Weiner’s crocodile tears today are just another temporary way-station along his continually unraveling ribbon of lies.
Weiner is obviously engaged in yet another episode of spinning the facts in a cynical attempt to evade the consequences of his serial malfeasance. Although Weiner says he takes full responsibility, he insists on remaining in an office he’s demonstrably unfit to hold.
Weiner’s still the same arrogant loud-mouth philistine he always was.
ropelight (28261b) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:22 pmbtw, I don’t know what people are saying to Lee. I’m sure a lot of it is unjustified nastiness. Lee seems like an honorable guy who should read over AOS’s posts, asking himself ‘Why were Ace’s hunches correct, and mine completely wrong?’
Lee is not alone on this, but he’s the guy putting his name out there for these theories. I roll my eyes when people say ‘I really like the guy’s work and don’t want to see him harm his reputation’, but in all honesty, I do feel that way about Lee, whose hunches and summaries I certainly trust less now, and whose work will get more verification. I don’t say that to be mean.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:22 pmSure, but PatriotUSA was completely what he claimed to be, right? And he probably wishes he never bothered to tip anyone. Let’s not assume facts are in before they are in. That is a very good principle.
For the record, yeah, PUSA annoys me too. I’m not trying to stick up for his attitude. That is not my point.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:24 pmit coulda gone either way just when you think you understand twitterslut dynamics bam there’s a new wrinkle
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:25 pmWeiner Wife Whereabouts?
Pugilistic Putz Proves Propensity for Prevarication
Whining Wounded Wanker Won’t Wesign!
GeneralMalaise (8fa4f9) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:30 pmWeiner, Eric Massa and Chris Lee should start a consulting business called BlameNY. They can take responsibility for politicians mess up since their reputations can’t be dumped any lower.
“I was driving the car instead of Senator Kennedy and I take full responsibility for what happened.”
“It was my boyfriend that ran a prostitution ring out of Rep Frank’s basement. I take full responsibility for not monitoring his actions.”
“I hacked Rep Foley’s account and sent out those e-mails to the pages. I take full responsibility for the content of those messages.”
This could be a business as big as Google or Wal-Mart with the politicians we keep electing. It’s gold I tell you, gold!
MU789 (35e941) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:32 pmre: post #28… does happyfeet have personal knowledge of whether Weiner is circumcised or not?
Is happy an “intactivist”?
GeneralMalaise (8fa4f9) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:33 pmWeiner crashed on the rocks the lives of at least a half dozen people who never expected it and more than likely didn’t want it. Not many kids going to his house next Halloween.
Birdbath (19803d) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:34 pmIt is not nice, and prolly anti-Semitic, to joke about Captain Foreskin.
JD (c3df49) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:35 pmNo, he did not “follow the lead”s – he went completely off the track. I don’t care if PatriotWhatever is black, brown, conservative, allergic, or none of the above.
The story was never about who first noticed the tent pole pic, but that’s what Stranahan went after.
I knew it as soon as Ace did.
WeinerDude did not file a police report.
Filing a false police report is a crime.
Gerry (fc5dbc) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:40 pmLee there were times when I was thinking:
Hmmm it seems like Lee really wants it to be one of these other scenarios…
But, I also realized that the goatsred and Patriot confuzzle, mixed with the TSG hit piece on goatsred were an enormous distraction and misdirection.
The patriot entity; whatever it is, weaseled around in a way that made it plausible that Weiner was hacked.
That is a back story that is/was beyond weird and I could see that the patriot cover up gnawed at you.
I think I wrote a comment that was argumentative, which was intended to be a challenge not to character, but of challenging ideas, conclusions, possibilities etc.
By the way; who wants to bet Weiner was making a preemptive strike today at any photos that wound up in the possession of underage girls?
We have heard that there is a girl out there who wanted him to take her to the prom…
Another angle I like to see Lee’s skills thrown into would be finding out if Weiner acted alone, or if Weiner has an Office Creep in charge of Facebook and Twitter… that the taxpayer is funding. Because there seems to be no way Weiner could stay current on so many women, workout, get his chest and back waxed, give speeches on the floor, go to appearances, etc etc without a helper.
SteveG (cc5dc9) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:43 pmMy guess is that there is a person in his office that does help with some of it.
That person can’t be thrown under the bus easily because they’d have too much dirt… but that said, they might want to save their own skin here if there are underage girls involved.
It wouldn’t take much to find out who the person is in Weiner’s office who handles Social Media
And yet, despite the attributed “facts”, he got it wrong. Furthermore, “ninety percent” of the news industry were doing the same thing, pursuing the “hack” redherring in an attempt to exonerate a left wing politician. Things really haven’t changed all that much in 20 years.
I don’t mean that as a shot againt Lee (or anyone), just that they should hopefully now realize they went off on a wild goose chase and really should have known better.
Recognizing here that it was a total waste of time and energy would be nice, but that’s optional. Attempts to frame it as some kind of well-intentioned noble exercize or “entertainment” ring hollow. Better summation: “I duped myself beyond belief and I turned out to be woefully wrong. But I’m wiser going forward”. Now, that would be noble.
Jay S. (79f341) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:58 pmhappy said “wrinkle”
ColonelHaiku (8fa4f9) — 6/6/2011 @ 3:58 pmintactivism in play
moyel not bad guy
Yeah, that question needs to be pursued, if for no other reason than to hear him say that he “can’t say with certitude that he wasn’t sexting with minors”.
Jay S. (79f341) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:01 pmPerhaps the good Congressman was just Protecting Children On The Internet. I mean, if they weren’t sexting with him, who knows what kind of predators they’d encounter?
Bruce (892226) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:01 pmquestion of the day
“were you asked to resign?”
not “were you erect?”
Even Colonel know that much.
ColonelHaiku (8fa4f9) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:01 pmColonel ask SteveG
ColonelHaiku (8fa4f9) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:03 pmwhat over/under is on
his post 35?
“I did not tweet this
ColonelHaiku (8fa4f9) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:07 pmwoman, Miss Gennette Nicole”
Congressman Junk Man
cuz he’s the JunkMan
ColonelHaiku (8fa4f9) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:11 pmyeah he’s the JunkMa-an and
he work for New Yawk
should JunkMan appear
ColonelHaiku (8fa4f9) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:12 pmtoo small be thankful JunkMan
do not show it all
Bush’s fault.
highpockets (eb527b) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:13 pmColonel Haiku is
ColonelHaiku (8fa4f9) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:15 pmMaster Blaster he MainBoy
with the real JoyToy
and I’m spent…
ColonelHaiku (8fa4f9) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:15 pmI read Lee obsessively THANKS LEE – I understood where he was coming from and he had some good theories – the mad girl friend angle was particularly compelling – People should only condemn WEINER – he is the only person who was a prick in this situation.
Janetoo (84c5f6) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:21 pmspeaking of Saddam Mr. Aaron
brb
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:22 pmhere’s the trailer The Devil’s Double you should click to see
it’s about the guy what was Uday’s double plus I like the Depeche Mode they use
it looks way cool, no?
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:25 pmBoom goes the Brooklynite.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:27 pmThe internet has so much potential for good! Sadly, some people use it for mischief and to do the bidding of ol’ screwtape. Case in point with this embarassing fiasco.
kunzite (70f08e) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:29 pmChris Matthews blames Weiner’s wife. “Maybe she’s partly responsible?”
Damn. That boy loves the democrat party a lot.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:33 pmYou should post Andrew Breitbart’s press conference. He was brilliant in it. And he was 100% right and very eloquent in it … how dare this Congressman or any of his stooges go after Brietbart’s integrity and how dare ANY media pick it up without doing their own reporting.
I had that happen to me in the past by people with agenda and uninformed media and it’s hell on Earth to go through.
Go Andrew!!
Anita Busch (a025dd) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:36 pmThis guy is a weapon’s grade douchebag. Weiner admitted he sent this twitter. He admitted the hacking myth was a lie. He even apologized to Breitbart for letting people assume there was a hack of any kind.
He’s really really deranged about Stack.
I think Cannon and his pals need to learn how to deal with reality. Weiner wasn’t framed. There was no conspiracy. If Weiner admitted to sending stuff he didn’t send, he knows his enemies would instantly prove that, because that’s evidence he’s hiding something worse.
That’s not to say Weiner isn’t hiding something worse, but some of these people are simply dishonorable of how aggressively they will lie and distort the facts, overlooking most of them, inventing a few they need, and actually get angry with you if you don’t agree.
I tried to comment on Cannon’s blog way earlier in this, when Lee Stranahan was boosting this ‘theory’. I argued my case passionately and intelligently, leaning on the facts many others have brought together. My comment was never displayed, because Cannon is a fascist about his political propaganda.
Everyone who linked his garbage had a responsibility to scrutinize it carefully enough to know it was going way too far.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:39 pmAndrew Brietbart should sue the pants off of Weiner for suggesting that he was a hacker …
Anita Busch (a025dd) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:43 pmBreitbart presser is here:
http://www.therightscoop.com/andrew-breitbart-owns-the-media/
Found it via HotAir (http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/06/video-breitbart-takes-over-weiners-press-conference/)
lacon (f5aad4) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:44 pmLee Stranahan was right to link Cannon’s theory before it was debunked it was the right thing to do especially at the time everyone was so bewildered and scared about the hacking
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:50 pmpoor Weiner has to be really shaken up he came really close to having to get a real job
too close
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:53 pmOh good Allah and holy Jeebus, if someone is going to sock puppet DSCSAZOMFGBBQIMP at least be funny.
JD (d48c3b) — 6/6/2011 @ 4:58 pmPelosi chucked Weiner under the bus.
JD (306f5d) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:00 pmFrom RadarOnline:
Speaking exclusively to RadarOnline.com, Weiss said she shared 220 messages with Rep. Weiner beginning on August 13, last year — and they were often exchanged during work hours.
Weiner was married in July of last year.
MayBee (081489) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:02 pmThere’s a level of ‘hmm, maybe this? I don’t really understand it’ that would have been better.
As people really started to hunt, Patriot USA’s dumbass behavior made people more and more sure there was something out there, but it was more and more clear to me that Weiner just tweeted a picture he meant to keep private. It was a simply goof, not an elaborate conspiracy. As the theories became more paranoid, and technical details even showed them wrong, people started doubling down, which always happens. That’s ego.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:02 pmAmen, MayBee. Those are the kinds of observations they are praying will go away.
JD (b98cae) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:12 pmMaybee, that’s awful timing. It probably underlines the notion their marriage was an act, which I’m sure is awful for Humma to deal with.
A more honorable man would resign just because it would greatly reduce the spotlight.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:17 pmHe sent it as a joke? Does anyone think that he didn’t open his press conference with, yet, another lie, given the Radar revelations about the FB chatter?
Anita Busch (a025dd) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:18 pmThe following is a true story, only the names have been changed to protect the guilty
I got a momma whose a Humma,
keeping me alive.
While I’m at the bar drinking whiskey with the boys,
she’s working nine to five. (Knows her place that woman)
papertiger (e55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:19 pmOne more thing- how does the #545 tweet fit in with the story that Coed was not really expecting anything like this from Weiner.
MayBee (081489) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:23 pmBecause she’s lying, MayBee. Her attitude has been to look down on others, all along. If you ask her a question and write about it, you’re not a real journalist, because Cordova says that’s unethical. But if Cordova lies to cover up a scandal involving her boyfriend politician, that’s just great.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:27 pmHave you seen this? Chuckie’s take on the Weiner mea culpa
“Just to be absolutely clear about this: yes, Andrew Breitbart got this one right. But again, I will never apologize for doubting his credibility. He’s smeared too many innocent people, he does not deserve the benefit of the doubt, and getting it right this one time does not change those facts.”
What a weaselly little gutter snipe.
papertiger (e55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:33 pmAfter an admittedly quick survey of sites around the internets I’m not feeling a lot of love for Weiner out there. Obviously the people who have been busting his chops for over a week are filled with schadenfreude and seem to have even more questions after his bizarre presser. And quite a few of the folks who publicly defended Weiner (because he couldn’t possibly be that stupid and besides Breitbart is the devil) are now not only expressing shock and disappointment, but also seem to be sort of doubling down with criticism of him because they are embarrassed that Weiner embarrassed them. Of course he’ll always have
elissa (814781) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:42 pmParisKos and Salon, but all in all not a very good day for Rep Weiner.http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
ian cormac (72470d) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:48 pmI just want to say, fwiw, I’ve really liked Lee’s work here..I read all he wrote on this with great interest, even though I was fairly certain Weiner effed up and mistakenly mass-tweeted his package pic…he’s been very fair-minded, IMO…don’t post much but I read a lot here, and I look forward to more from Lee.
Ellen (a13e9f) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:49 pmFunny comment at the LGF thread (context this is as the shock of Breitbart taking the podium at Weiner’s presser slowly sank it):
I miss “old media.”
papertiger (e55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:52 pmelissa
if i was a kossack, i would be the most pissed at weiner. he let them blow in the wind. he made them all look like idiots today. not that it was hard.
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:53 pmThis morning, I tweeted the following to @Stranahan:
Sticking to it.
L.N. Smithee (122792) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:57 pmAlso, doesn’t it seem clear Coed didn’t believe the hacking story because she knew AW would indeed send her this kind of photo?
MayBee (081489) — 6/6/2011 @ 5:58 pmFrom SarahW on Twitter:
@tommyxtopher Any chance you’d follow up with B and V parents NOW? Are they still disgusted anyone would warn their daughters?
Thank you. Perfect question.
MayBee (081489) — 6/6/2011 @ 6:02 pmYou know what? As far as this thing about Lee goes. He kept the ball rolling.
Sometimes you just keep the marble moving long enough, and good things turn up.
papertiger (e55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 6:11 pmThat’s true, Papertiger. But Lee kept the ball rolling away from what a lot of people were saying all along.
Verify things he says or links carefully in the future. Take his analysis with a grain of salt. And hey, he could say the same about me. I go off half cocked on paranoid fantasies too (though I usually think such thoughts aren’t fit for typing out, I do have those thoughts).
Some people are able to make a case very well. Lee is such a guy. He’s not trying to take sides. He’s motivated by problems in the media and liberal blogosphere. His the kind of person who makes mistakes honestly, which can often be the most corrosive kind of mistake.
I know a lot of people are bashing him with a lot of nastiness. That’s not my intent, and those people are largely punks. But I do think a real documentary of this minor episode should concern itself with PatriotUSA’s plea to stay anonymous, because he has concerns for keeping his kids. That resonated at true to me. I can see some ex wives using this kind of thing. I can see someone having problems if they are exposed as a political factor.
Everything PatriotUSA told turned out to be true. It’s like Breitbart’s famous defense ‘Name one provable lie I’ve told’. People didn’t just ignore the request, they shows utter contempt for the concept. Good luck, conservative media, if that’s the new rule.
One big lesson about the internet is that it’s full of uncontrolled static. Theories and ramblings and phony experts from every direction. The internet is taking over, and leaving the MSM impotent, and so we have to learn new rules and relearn old ones in a new way, to protect people from the endless and unavoidably wild and evil speculation. Yes, evil. What Cannongate has been doing is evil.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/6/2011 @ 6:26 pmgod help us all if that ball ever stops rolling
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 6/6/2011 @ 6:34 pmIf you have not already seen it do use this link to go view a creepy ABC Jonathan Carl interview with Weiner from earlier this week.
As AP says,
“…want the world to see what an almost pathologically fluid liar he was when cornered. The last 80 seconds of it will have you squirming in your seat — not only the way he claims to be the innocent target of a hoax but his insistence on lecturing the interviewer for assuming the worst, taking care to maintain accusatory eye contact the whole way. It’s genuinely disturbing. If, like me, you felt bad for him when he choked up at his presser today, spend four minutes watching this. It’ll straighten you right out.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/06/creepy-must-see-flashback-weiner-lies-shamelessly-to-abc-about-what-happened/
elissa (814781) — 6/6/2011 @ 7:02 pmI laughed at Weiner
when he cry… cuz it smell like
victory and that……… son of a biscuit used his power to employ the usual suspects in the leftwing blogosphere to smear AB and anyone who questioned his veracity. That guy sold his soul a long, long time ago and he deserves all that is coming to him.
He should feel shame and should resign, but he won’t. and that is because as most of us know, liberals don’t “embarrass easy”.
ColonelHaiku (8fa4f9) — 6/6/2011 @ 7:22 pmWeiner got skinned wait
ColonelHaiku (8fa4f9) — 6/6/2011 @ 7:26 pmKirsten Powers just admit
dating Weiner… RAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLPH!
@ Comment by Dustin — 6/6/2011 @ 6:26 pm
Yeah, but you got to admit the choir was getting a little burned out.
papertiger (e55ba0) — 6/6/2011 @ 7:31 pmLee poured a little cold water in the mix, just at the right time. Perked everybody up again.
Do I get any converts to the belief the “act-of-god” demise of certain Liberals is a reason to celebrate?
Chrissy leg tingly Mathews.
Sponge Bob Square Pants (fccc6f) — 6/6/2011 @ 7:35 pmNancy my jet is running Pelosi.
Dick Douchebag.
Daily Kos boy.
Jimmy Caaaahhtuh.
Keith Olberscum.
Chucky and Weiner-schnitzel
Steny benny Hoyer.
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List goes on ……
Kristin Powers is an idiot.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 6/6/2011 @ 8:26 pmwe know huma is smarter than to stay with this loser, don’t we? What advice would Hillary give her you think?
omg I smell epic reality tv deal
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 6/6/2011 @ 8:31 pmOk, weiner and chuckles and some others are assclowns, but why doesn’t the media look into his better half’s relatives who supposedly have al qaeda connections. No idea what the real truths are in total, but we see national security interests compromised all the time and yet the media cannot be bothered to investigate other, possibly more egregious stories? No one from the past will step forth to spill the beans on Obama? And Palin makes a statement about Paul Revere, which actually has some truth and yet SHE is an idiot, as are W and Dan Quayle and morons like 57 states/speak Austrian Obama and Joe Biden FDR, etc. cluelessness is given a pass. Yes, I suppose it is unlikely that Obama was actually engaged in sodomy in Rev. Wright’s church as some rumors have indicated and Hillary did not likely have a lesbian relationship with Weiner’s wife, but had these been alleged dirt on conservatives, the media would be having a feast. Recall all the nonsense about McCain having an affair, for example. here in S Florida, there are all sorts of stories about Janet Reno and DUI, where she skated on any charges. Double standards continue. And still would like to know what happened to Chuckles to do a 180.
Calypso Louie Farrakhan (cc9029) — 6/6/2011 @ 8:48 pmIf weiner wasn’t such an ammoral jackwagon.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 6/6/2011 @ 9:31 pm#27. ” For the record, yeah, PUSA annoys me too. I’m not trying to stick up for his attitude. That is not my point.”
You made a good point, and I’d like to add to it – who has now looked at that looong interview and decided for next time “that’s how a real witness acts”.. ! ! !, instead of “he’s a real annoying jerk” as the main theme, and then, immense suspicion of everything he said including saying over and over implied AND otherwise “he’s the hacker!”, and of course, after the false Clinton body count years, he WISELY wants to stay in hiding… considering HIS SAME SIDE IS ATTACKING HIM RELENTLESSLY EVEN NOW.
SiliconDoc (7ba52b) — 6/6/2011 @ 10:38 pm—
Wow, thank you Dustin for at least trying, too bad you had to renegotiate your position to get along, save face, kiss the friend, etc…. LOL …. with friends like ALL OF YOU – save just a couple who called Weiner GUILTY from the get go – who needs enemies ?
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No really, PatriotUSA76 – IS THE SMARTEST ONE IN THE WHOLE GROUP – HE KNOWS WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE LIKE, LET ALONE THE POLITICAL ENEMY.
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Yeah, yeah, you were scratching ” to figure it out ” – but let’s face it, YOU TOOK THE WEASEL DEMOS WORDS OVER ONE OF YOUR OWN – EVEN WHEN WEASEL ACTED FAR MORE SUSPICOUSLY AND WAS CAUGHT “PLEADING THE 5TH” ON THE BASE QUESTION !
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A FREE 24/7/365 WATCHDOG – ABSOLUTELY FREE AND ALL YOU HAD TO SAY WAS “YOU FRUITLOOP YOU’RE OBSESSED! YOU’RE THE HACKER ! ” (mostly – ABOUT 90% PLUS!)
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Wow, someone needs to REALLY kick this site’s main core – because without BREIBART – we’re all more communist in a few years.
I AM SICK OF REPUBLICANS BELIEVING THE ENEMY OVER THEIR OWN.
Ok, I’ll shut up – I kicked for a good REASON – I want to know how many are going to apologize to PatriotUSA76…
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zero, probably… your perceptions of his attitude and his annoying behavior RULES YOUR MINDS – you react to your EMOTIONS – good jobs… I wonder if that’s how the libs act ??
PS – You all did a good job sticking with the story and not just killing it and you definitely deserve CREDIT for that.
SiliconDoc (7ba52b) — 6/6/2011 @ 10:41 pmI don’t want to sound all negative – good job sticking with it !