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6/1/2011

Jon Stewart on Weiner: My Friend is Innocent Because He is Not That Well Hung

Filed under: General — Aaron Worthing @ 7:49 am



[Guest post by Aaron Worthing; if you have tips, please send them here.  Or by Twitter @AaronWorthing.]

I wish to God that the title was purely a joke, but yes, that was the defense Stewart offered:

Overall, it was a pretty limp performance, but even going in I wasn’t expecting much.  Unlike a lot of commentators, my attitude was that it would be unfair to expect Stewart to go after the Weiner.  They are old friends going back to college after all.  And I don’t think ideology plays into this at all.  Stewart is not exactly fair, but he is not shameless, either.  He knows—as he well acknowledges—that this is exactly the kind of story his show would have endless fun with.  If Weiner wasn’t his friend, he would be all over it, Democrat or Republican.  As long as he doesn’t extend that protection to a long list of people I am cool with that.

And as for his defense…  I suspect somewhere Weiner is thinking, thanks a lot buddy. With friends like these…

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By the way, I find this detail oddly significant.  Weiner apparently got married almost a year ago and who officiated the wedding?  Um, this guy.

Yes, really.

Now this morning I got off on a rant about how conservatives actually do care about adulterers in higher office and all of that.  And I accept that liberals very often don’t care, believing that your personal life doesn’t affect your ability to govern.  So we can agree to disagree on that.

But how is Clinton’s serial violations of his wedding vows irrelevant in the context of marriage?  Doesn’t it make a mockery of the wedding itself to have a famous serial adulterer standing up there and say:

Anthony Weiner, do you take Huma Abedin to be your wedded wife to live together in marriage? Do you promise to love, comfort, honor and keep her for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, and forsaking all others, be faithful only to her so long as you both shall live?

(Emphasis added.) Do you want to be at a wedding where you are concerned that the officiant might hit on the bride and can’t be trusted alone with the bridesmaids?  Do you want the officiant to question what the meaning of the word “faithful” is, or if a certain sex act is cheating? Yes, I know he was the President and therefore he should receive a certain amount of respect automatically, but you can find a way to duck out of it without dissing the man.  Like you say, “gee, Mr. Clinton, I am honored by the offer, but this rabbi has been a family friend for years and so it’s kind of a personal thing.”  It is a bizarre act of disrespect for the institution of marriage to have a man with Bill Clinton’s character to officiate over one.

Hat tip: Insty.

[Posted and authored by Aaron Worthing.]

168 Responses to “Jon Stewart on Weiner: My Friend is Innocent Because He is Not That Well Hung”

  1. Twitter is actually insinuating now that Weiner was indeed hacked.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  2. why would any celebrity or politician or concerned citizen use twitter if people can send dick photos out of your account willy nilly?

    I certainly wouldn’t risk it.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  3. I thought it was pretty funny under the circumstances, and while I do appreciate that he tends to believe that his friend is innocent, I also appreciate that he suggested that bloggers were the only ones doing actual reporting.

    mcg (7b0d2e)

  4. it’s at Hot Air

    brb

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  5. here it’s a link to politico

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  6. I disagree with the implication that Twitter is agreeing Weiner was hacked, happyfeet.
    They are just giving out the standard safety tips, and given that Weiner says he was hacked, that seems the right thing to do.

    MayBee (081489)

  7. The target of the current round of conservative slut-shaming says she knows who did it.

    Friday evening I logged onto Twitter to find that I had about a dozen new mentions in less than an hour, which is a rare occurrence. When I checked one of the posts that I had been tagged in I saw that it was a picture that had supposedly been tweeted to me by Congressman Anthony Weiner.
    The account that these tweets were sent from was familiar to me; this person had harassed me many times after the Congressman followed me on Twitter a month or so ago. Since I had dealt with this person and his cohorts before I assumed that the tweet and the picture were their latest attempts at defaming the Congressman and harassing his supporters.
    Annoyed, I responded with something along the lines of “are you f***ing kidding me?” and “I’ve never seen this. You people are sick.” I blocked their accounts, made my page private, and let the matter drop, expecting them to eventually do the same.
    Within about an hour, however, I realized that I had grossly underestimated the severity of the situation that I had somehow become a part of.
    The last 36 hours have been the most confusing, anxiety-ridden hours of my life. I’ve watched in sheer disbelief as my name, age, location, links to any social networking site I’ve ever used, my old phone numbers and pictures have been passed along from stranger to stranger.

    wheeler's cat (ce6ac6)

  8. news reports of the past few days are a good reminder of the importance of actively protecting your account credentials

    that’s a willful misreading of the news reports of the past few days I think – what news reports of the past few day are is a good reminder of the importance of actively protecting your reputation by not twittering penis photos to college girls

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  9. Um, Aaron, who else but Bill Clinton would have been more appropriate to “solemnise”, if that’s the word, this particular marriage?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  10. When I checked one of the posts that I had been tagged in I saw that it was a picture that had supposedly been tweeted to me by Congressman Anthony Weiner. The account that these tweets were sent from was familiar to me…

    here she’s talking about subsequent retweeting of the photo, not the original

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  11. I mean, you did know about them before this weekend, didn’t you? You didn’t think this was an ordinary married couple?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  12. feets, the young. black. college co-ed. (who will never vote conservative– three anti-conservative demographics right there) just said in the NYT that she knows who did it.
    A serial harrasser with the nic of patriotusa76 and a reagan icon.

    wheeler's cat (ce6ac6)

  13. here is from the politico comments

    This is all very good advice, but the only way strong passwords could have helped Mr. Weiner is if you accept his story as true. It may indeed be true, but there are many unanswered questions and reasons to believe that those who doubt Mr. Weiner’s account (the so-called “girthers”) may have well-based suspicions.

    girthers? really?

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  14. nishi- on twitter she specifically said she does not think patrioutusa76 did anything but retweet the picture. She also apologized for bringing his name into it.

    MayBee (081489)

  15. She’s the Snooki of the west coast, exactly the kind of fool that would follow Wiener. I’m sure she thinks the Daily Show and Colbert, are giving you the real deal.

    ian cormac (72470d)

  16. I think the marriage was a political alliance. Huma was a top Dem–I’m sure the family is connected to Saudi power; Hillary didn’t pluck her out of the steno pool. Weiner was well into his 40s before he married. He is obviously a womanizer and knew that he needed a wife.

    So it’s no wonder Bill officiated.

    Patricia (b717c7)

  17. I don’t see a clear statement that she knows who hacked Weiner’s twitter … in what you quoted she said she knew the account of someone responsible for “a dozen new mentions in less than an hour” – about the photo Weiner had had supposedly sent her – that’s not the same as saying that this guy had sent the original photo

    she says explicitly that she “assumed that the tweet and the picture were their latest attempts at defaming the Congressman and harassing his supporters” – not that she knows this to be a fact

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  18. Patterico.com has become Weinergate.com

    I suppose some angles of this story are important, but come on – every thread? Every detail?

    What about the upcoming California release of convicted criminals? Patterico – I thought you of all people would be all over this, but instead all we get is Weiner as far as the eye can see. Just think – if he was in CA and what he did was a crime, even if he was convicted and sentenced he could be just released. That’s justice. The suffering of the innocents is not a bug – it’s a feature. You may not know what I am talking about, yet.

    Turns out Scalia’s dissent specifically referred to the Philadelphia experience which I lived through. I guarantee that you will soon have far more important things than Twitter to deal with on the west coast.

    Amphipolis (b120ce)

  19. I can dig Stewart’s wrap. At least he tries to be honest.

    Sponge Bob Torquemada (fccc6f)

  20. wrap = rap

    Sponge Bob Torquemada (fccc6f)

  21. sounds like Mr. Stewart is accusing Weiner of sending inauthentic penis shots

    it’s all just so tawdry

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  22. wheeler’s cat/nishidiot/nishizonoshinji thinks s/he’s being witty, but in actuality is more like nit-witty.

    All of these BUNNIES! misdirection ploys are nice and all. But how come an inordiante number of the 200-or-so people that Weiner follows, out of the 45k who follow him, are comely young lasses?

    Most likely because Weiner fancies himelf a cocks-man par excellance, a Weiner-wunder if you will; God’s gift to women.

    Bob Reed (5f2db5)

  23. Maybee she SAID pusa76 had harrassed her before. She is avoiding a libel suit.

    Have you ever been stalked?
    pusa76 is a serial harrasser, and certainly had the motivation.

    And i agree, Patterico.com has morphed into Weinergate.com.
    THIRTEEN FP posts.

    I used to think Patterico was an honest man. This is crazipants.

    wheeler's cat (ce6ac6)

  24. I do wonder how often Jon Stewart saw Weiner’s thing in that particular state.

    MayBee (081489)

  25. Well, there were procedural and precedential problems with that decision, as there was with the whole series of Gitmo detainee cases, as it was with Kelo, that’s why I wasn’t sanguine on the course they would take with Heller.

    ian cormac (72470d)

  26. Hmm. Based on the “Have you ever been stalked line”…

    Show of hands, folks: how many people think that there is a strong, strong possibility of nishi has tweet-stalked political figures she likes? I hesitate to consider what creepy ass photos she would send along.

    Simon Jester (b7470d)

  27. nishi is just upset with all the coverage the battle of the bulge is getting.

    standard play for her. whine, whine, whine.

    she can post what she wants on her own blog.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  28. Frankly, I am disturbed Jon would remember so much from 25 years past let alone actually look at his junk after coming out of the water.

    Kind of creepy there Jon.

    Sponge Bob Torquemada (fccc6f)

  29. pusa76 is a serial harrasser, and certainly had the motivation.

    Serial harrasser, like the kind of person who makes multiple daily comments on how dishonest and crazipants someone is?

    MayBee (081489)

  30. That lunatic has her own blog, daley? Can you imagine the nuttiness vibe?!

    Simon Jester (b7470d)

  31. pusa76 is a serial harrasser, and certainly had the motivation.

    Do you have any evidence for your hysterical accusations? I’ve seen a lot of people discuss this, and no one has come up with anything. Why is that? I think it’s because this is a lie.

    She is avoiding a libel suit.

    How is that, unless patriotusa76 is not actually a stalker? This is stuff that happened online… that leaves a trail of evidence. She is avoiding a lawsuit how, exactly? Just as with Weiner’s claims he didn’t send the picture, it would be extremely easy to prove your side. The people standing in the way of the truth coming out are therefore much more suspicious.

    I used to think Patterico was an honest man.

    He’s not the one writing the posts, but name a single dishonest point raised in these 13 posts. Just one. You would have done so if you could, but you just assert that you’ve proven a lack of integrity because you want people to stop discussing a story.

    The truth is that you’re the one who is dishonest. You know Weiner is guilty of sending perverted stuff to young women and then making up a hacker story, or trying to make this about Clarence Thomas. You want us to stop talking about an issue that is a liability for your political heroes, so you pretend there’s something dishonest about it.

    BTW, the reason it’s being covered so much at blogs like this is because the MSM tends to not cover stories like this. There was a three day embargo on this story in 99% of the MSM. This isn’t the only blog on the internet, and you don’t get to decide what people talk about. I know democrats really love this idea they can just bury stories, but go to hell.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  32. MayBee continues to rock the hizzie.

    Simon Jester (b7470d)

  33. Palin loves america.

    Maobama does not and never will

    Weiner is a douschebag.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  34. Weiner loves b*a*v*r.

    Uh, duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sponge Bob Torquemada (fccc6f)

  35. okfine.
    We are about to enter Econopalypse Redux and you retards want to obsess over weinergate 24/7.
    I wonder if Patterico understands what defaulting on the national debt will do to the sputtering economy, since the rest of you cudlips are unable to get your noses out of the congressman’s crotch.

    wheeler's cat (ce6ac6)

  36. Who GIVES a crap?

    Even if Weiner did as alleged, so WHAT? Can someone give me the SO WHAT?

    Kman (5576bf)

  37. never trust comments from nishidiot

    she’s a two digit fake muslim (because daddy hates it) who believes in the traditional Islamic values of abortion and gay marriage

    intellectual dishonesty definition is nishidiot

    ony here to grief

    Lulz

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  38. Dustin nailed it: “Wheeler’s cat” whines about the number of weiner posts, and sighs that his faith in our host’s honesty has been dashed, simply to try to get people to stop talking about the story.

    Standard defense move by the Left.

    Cat, can you tell us why Weiner repeatedly refused to answer CNN reporter Dana Bash’s simple question, “Did you send the picture?”

    If he didn’t do it, why not say that? Why add fuel to the fire by repeatedly evading, Clinton-fashion, instead of simply answering? It’s certainly not to save everyone’s time!

    But of course you already know why: He did it.

    I couldn’t care less about Weiner sending a pic of himself to some coed. What’s offensive to me is that you guys on the left think the rest of us are idiots–certainly leftists write that often enough–because you declare that day is night and expect it to fly, simply through the power of the Media Deathstar.

    sf (dd2a87)

  39. amph

    i’ll have a non-weiner thread in a bit.

    but fyi, on the prison thing, i posted on the ruling when it came down. And i am not sure patrick can comment on it, given his day job. so that might be the problem.

    Aaron Worthing (e7d72e)

  40. This site has finally found its destiny — all weiner, all the time.

    angeleno (0a10d5)

  41. I’m not saying this is what happened, but I thought of something and I wondered if anybody else had thought of it too.

    I was thinking how Weiner claimed it was a “Prank”. What if it was. Dude’s sitting on the couch, watching the hockey game with a friend, gets up to go to the can. Leaves his phone behind, negligently leaving it unlocked.

    Friend grabs phone and takes a picture of his junk and then just sends it at random to some cutey in his Twitter feed. LOLZ.

    Alcohol may be involved in this scenario.

    Weiner comes back, sees what’s happened, plays it down. It’s a prank by his buddy, not a national security thing. He’s embarrassed by what happened but doesn’t want to rat out his friend as being a total jerk.

    It helps if you imagine them as Beevis and Butthead.

    As I write this out, it seems unlikely. But a lot of this seems unlikely.

    Pious Agnostic (6048a8)

  42. This site has finally found its destiny — all weiner, all the time.

    Comment by angeleno

    Oh look, a rude comment from Angeleno, the hysterical democrat shill who likes to pretend he’s not one sometimes.

    Who cares if you don’t want us to talk about Rep Weiner’s embarrassing lack of honor?

    You don’t get to decide what other people talk about. It’s a big internet, so go find something you want to talk about instead of trying this ultimate last resort of losing shills: ‘shut up! shut up! shut up!’

    Dustin (c16eca)

  43. As I write this out, it seems unlikely. But a lot of this seems unlikely.

    I don’t think it sounds so unlikely, but I don’t know what would stop him from saying that.
    Instead he floundered around with the faux-jovial FB hacking.

    But people.
    Adults.
    Let me talk to you.
    Get your hoochie and thingie pictures off your electronic devices. Unless you can get Ryan Seacrest to produce a reality show for you if it gets out in public, it will eventually end up poorly.

    MayBee (081489)

  44. just said in the NYT that she knows who did it.

    Even if she had said this — and she didn’t, how could she possibly know it? And why would anyone believe her?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  45. Huma was a top Dem–I’m sure the family is connected to Saudi power; Hillary didn’t pluck her out of the steno pool.

    It’s more than that. Don’t you remember the rumours that were going around about Huma before she started publicly dating Weiner?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  46. Pious, he’s a congressman with a top secret security clearance and all kinds of important contacts, and he leaves his blackberry unlocked and accessible to any old jackass pal of his?

    That doesn’t really explain his pervy fascination with following hot teenagers who act like his groupies who “love” him and call him “boyfriend”, instead of following people who are actually in his district, or least are relevant to them somehow.

    And frankly, he knows that innocent people are being accused of ugly things over this. Dan Wolfe is being accused of being a stalker and hacker. Breitbart is being accused of forging and hacking. Even Clarence Thomas’s wife Virginia is being accused of trying to cover up something. Twitter’s security is being lied about.

    Frankly, if Weiner knows that’s not the case, he has no honor to let those theories be issued for his defense, often by his own staff.

    He also lacks basic judgment if some innocent explanation like that, such as a staffer who twits for him, is the real culprit.

    Eventually I suspect he will attempt to sell a theory like this, but I think the pattern so far proves that’s not what happened.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  47. But how come an inordiante number of the 200-or-so people that Weiner follows, out of the 45k who follow him, are comely young lasses?

    Actually he was only following 91 people at the time this broke; and somehow this obscure Seattle student happened to be one of that elite. How can his defenders possibly explain that?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  48. I don’t think it sounds so unlikely, but I don’t know what would stop him from saying that.

    Well, that he didn’t go ahead and say it is the main reason it sounds unlikely, but I think his pattern of following hotties also is informative.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  49. While the doings of a NY congresscritter may not be all that relevant to Angelenos, or even Virginians, it’s a lot more relevant to those of us who are in his district, or near enough it that we may end up in it after this year’s redistricting, and in any case stand a significant chance of having him as mayor 2.5 years from now.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  50. FOX NEWS reporting Weiner will address media in 5 minutes.

    ropelight (570c43)

  51. Angeleno was once reasonable. Now he is just being a JournoList weiner.

    JD (b98cae)

  52. I admit that my “friend-tweeted-pics-while-tony-took-a-leak” scenario doesn’t leave him blameless. If nothing else, it shows appalling taste in friends.

    (Which brings us to Jon Stewart.)

    It’s just a thought experiment. It explains some of the data points, but not all of them.

    At any rate, I wouldn’t be surprised if saw it raised by some on the Left as a less-awful explanation.

    Pious Agnostic (6048a8)

  53. rope

    i would say he can’t do worse than the last media appearance but… so far he has been proving me wrong on that count

    Aaron Worthing (e7d72e)

  54. we cannot let Weiner distract us with his dick photo excuses that is not the work we came here to do

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  55. It’s just a thought experiment. It explains some of the data points, but not all of them

    Of course. I think it’s one of a few good attempts. You’re just trying to be fair, but the facts make it very hard to fairly conclude Weiner isn’t dishonorable.

    Frankly, I kinda think one reason we’re still talking about Weiner is that we don’t want to talk about the bigger stories. It’s almost a relief from the economy, which is really screwed up right now, and appears to be dangling at the edge of getting much worse. Or droughts, tornadoes, Egyptian sex assault, end of the space shuttle… I mean… those are interesting, but it’s kinda a dour period in history.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  56. i would say he can’t do worse than the last media appearance but… so far he has been proving me wrong on that count

    Comment by Aaron Worthing —

    If he’s smart he will say that he sent a lewd picture, and it was a huge mistake, and he is very sorry he lacked the honor to come clean sooner, but he thinks this is a minor issue, as this mistake went nowhere farther than twitter, and he and his wife would appreciate privacy as they work on their marriage.

    Sure, that will make things worse, a bit, for a little while, but this is the least bad option he’s got.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  57. Aaron, any chance you can construct a working Weiner Meter so we can rate the NY Congressman’s performance?

    ropelight (570c43)

  58. dustin

    i think ace of spades said there are really only 3 defenses right now.

    1) butt dialing…

    2) it was meant for his wife but got sent to wrong person…

    3) he doesn’t REALLY write his own tweets and he fired the idiot staffer.

    certainly he is running out of time to claim it was a hacker with a straight face.

    Aaron Worthing (e7d72e)

  59. Eh, let’s be honest: the reason we’re still talking about this is it’s fun. We so rarely get a chance to catch one of them with their pants down doing something indefensible. And they are usually so smooth, but this guy keeps stepping on his dick-photos.

    This is scalp-taking, pure and simple.

    NTTAWWT

    Pious Agnostic (6048a8)

  60. Eh, let’s be honest: the reason we’re still talking about this is it’s fun.

    Yeah, it’s very funny.

    I kinda think it’s a little stale, but I understand that the few people who are willing to make this case need to keep it up, or the media will happily bury it. That’s just the way it works.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  61. I have been very pleased to see CNN pushing for answers.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  62. Is wiener-ette having another presser?

    JD (474b75)

  63. Actually, they are technically (according to Jewish law) not married. It actually does not matter if a rabbi conducted a ceremony or not. However, it does have to be someone who is knowledgeable about Jewish law and the appropriate methods to conduct such a ceremony.

    1. Both the bride and the groom have to be Jewish.

    2. The witnesses must be Jewish males, who are not related to the bride or groom or each other. The witnesses must themselves follow all the tenets of the Jewish religion.

    3. The groom must give the bride a ring (or other item of a known value) and must not receive anything in return.

    Note that item 3 means that “double ring ceremonies” actually invalidate the wedding.

    The person who “officiates” is only someone who is capable of certifying that the ceremony has been performed correctly and that the people who say the various blessing have done it right. It is a common joke to point out that the groom does not say anything except

    “Behold you are sanctified to me by the laws of Moses and Israel” as he puts the ring on the bride’s finger.

    Even this is done by repeating what he is told by the officiant. The joke is that the groom is expected to be so nervous that even this is a “difficult” task.

    Sabba Hillel (6d1bdb)

  64. This is scalp-taking, pure and simple.

    neither pure or simple or scalp-taking. Its crotch-sniffing. Conservatives simply can’t pull their noses off Weiners dick long enough to pay attention to anything important, like say how bad the economy is going to crash if those retards in congress dont raise the debt ceiling.

    wheeler's cat (ce6ac6)

  65. Is it safe to say Anthony’s weiner is small?

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  66. Sabba,

    There are people on the planet who don’t follow Jewish traditions (some being Jewish, even), and they don’t get to say that a traditional Jewish wedding isn’t real any more than one can reasonably prove Weiner’s non traditional marriage isn’t real. It’s not true that they are technically not married. That’s absolutely crazy. They are married by law, custom, act, and reputation.

    He gave his word to be faithful to her. So as a matter of personal honor, he is bound to be faithful.

    One of the commandments is against bearing false witness, IIRC.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  67. thous shalt not send dick photos to your twitter harem and then condescendingly lie about it

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  68. Sabba Hillel, nobody here has been assuming that his marriage is recognised by halacha. Halacha’s definition of adultery is rather different too, but it’s not relevant because we’re discussing the standards of the general USA community, not the Jewish one. My point is that this is not a normal marriage, and he never promised Huma that he’d give up sex, so there’s no real moral issue.

    As for the halachic aspect, I’m not sure whether he’s actually Jewish. When his engagement was announced, and there was considerable negative reaction in the Jewish community, some commenters at VIN claimed that his mother isn’t Jewish, and therefore neither is he, and there’s no reason he shouldn’t marry a Moslem. That’s hardly a reliable source, to say the least, but it does raise a possibility. I mean, VIN’s comment section is a sewer into which I no longer descend, but there is the occasional nugget of truth that you won’t find anywhere else.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  69. He gave his word to be faithful to her. So as a matter of personal honor, he is bound to be faithful.

    Do you actually know that for a fact? Or are you just assuming because that’s what most husbands do?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  70. huffpo commenter:

    Steven Best

    9 minutes ago (1:52 PM)
    He may have broken his silence, but he still remains very cocky.

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  71. hah OT but this is a thing of beauty

    A conservative radio host in Florida hung up on Mike Haridopolos Tuesday after the U.S. Senate candidate refused to say whether he’d vote for Paul Ryan’s budget plan.

    […]

    The two went back and forth a few more times before Ray Junior finally gave up. “Get him off my phone. I don’t want to have anything to do with this guy. Get rid of him,” he told his producers.

    that is very very America I think good for you Mr. Junior

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  72. that made my day

    Get him off my phone.

    Love that.

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  73. Weiner’s 5 minutes has dragged out over an hour and a quarter and we’re still counting.

    Weiner is now trying to limit his TV exposure. He’s meeting with individual media personalities in the privacy of his office for one-on-one interviews, rather than stand up and take questions on-camera from the assembled media.

    FOX’s Bret Baier is scheduled for 3:45pm.

    The Underwear Boner’s attempts to double talk his way out of this self-inflicted public humiliation is only revealing the arrogant fool is really just an adolescent laughing stock who’s exhibiting the same level of poise and class of a cockroach when the lights come on.

    FOX is running Weiner’s story in between updates on Casey Anthony’s murder trial. You can make the connection.

    ropelight (570c43)

  74. Wait, all this talk about whether or not his marriage is real or not…

    Are some of you suggesting that the picture was of…his wife?

    Pious Agnostic (6048a8)

  75. Actually, Milhouse, I was relying on that ‘faithful’ wedding vow Aaron quoted, but googling the topic indicates that’s probably not from the ceremony.

    By all accounts, Weiner married Huma in a officiated ceremony with some kind of vow, claiming to be “over the moon” with love for her.

    I’m assuming there is some kind of promise in those vows to honor her or be faithful to her. Just an assumption, though.

    I don’t know if the wedding is sincere. I admit there is some indication it was a strategic issue, but I still think this mess shows Weiner has a fundamental lack of personal honor.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  76. sabba

    really? all temples follow that rule?

    myself, i think that is a pretty vile approach to it all.

    a few decades back my blood aunt fell in love with my future uncle. they were like an american cliche. i mean he was the f—ing quarterback and she was a cheerleader. the only twist was that he was deaf and mainstreamed at a time when few deaf people were (he could talk and read lips, which made that possible). so they decided to get married.

    He was catholic. she was presbyterrian. This was the 1960’s. They told them that they could get married, but no non-catholics could attend the wedding. that meant all of her side of the family pretty much. her father couldn’t give her away, her sisters (including my mother) couldn’t be bridesmaids, etc.

    He was so angry he left the church. they are now… wait for it… Episcopalians.

    It is unwise for any church to make a man choose between the woman he loves and and his church. It will not turn out well the majority of instances.

    So to the extent that jewish temples follow that practice, that is vile.

    fyi, i have mentioned that my wife and i are also of different faiths–the same break down and everything, only she is the catholic and i am the presbyterian. and this time everyone could attend, but you could only take communion if you believed the bread and wine literally became jesus body and blood. since most of us protestants think its just a metaphor, we couldn’t do that–but we didn’t really care, either.

    and she is still a catholic and i am still a Presbyterian. so at least catholicism didn’t lose HER to that stupidity.

    Aaron Worthing (e7d72e)

  77. I’m assuming there is some kind of promise in those vows to honor her or be faithful to her. Just an assumption, though.

    The only promise I assume he made was not to embarrass her. Which he’s now broken, but not on purpose. He didn’t mean to get caught.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  78. He really needs to keep his mouth shut, or ‘remove all doubt’

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/01/weiner-cant-say-with-certitude-if-twit-pics-were-of-him/

    ian cormac (72470d)

  79. So John Stewart actually saw Weiner’s weiner out in the wild.
    I think this calls for a line up.

    “Weiner 3 please step forward”

    Is that him John?

    papertiger (e55ba0)

  80. Weiner can’t say with certitude that it’s not his penis?

    But Johnson can say with certitude that Breitbart!!! framed him.

    HAHAHAHAHA

    Dustin (c16eca)

  81. what would be maximum fun?

    If this douchnozzle is forced to drop trow in a controlled setting.
    I want to see it.

    Well… I want to hear about it.

    papertiger (e55ba0)

  82. Um, Aaron, the prohibition on intermarriage between Jews and gentiles is God’s law; you have no business calling it vile. This is not some kind of extremism, it’s a very basic law that even not-very-observant Jews follow, because it’s the basis of Jewish identity. See the Book of Ezra. Even Conservative “rabbis” are not allowed to attend — let alone officiate at — intermarriages. When CBS put on a show called Bridget Loves Bernie, about an intermarried couple, it was shocking. It used to be that a Jew who married out could expect to be ostracised by all Jews. When Henry Kissinger’s father died, he was not allowed to say kaddish at the funeral, because he married out. It’s only in the last 20-30 years that so many Jews have so abandoned their principles and their people as to accept intermarriage as normal.

    Oh, and Jewish houses of worship are not called temples; there is only one Temple, and the Romans knocked it down 1941 years ago; we’ll rebuild it as soon as that becomes possible. Places that call themselves “temples” do so for the purpose of denying the need to ever rebuild the Temple; we call them heretics.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  83. Not that any of the above is relevant to this topic.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  84. Um, Aaron, the prohibition on intermarriage between Jews and gentiles is God’s law; you have no business calling it vile.

    No, it’s not God’s law. Those who say it is are wrong.

    #opinion != fact

    #imposing your religious law on the free world is irrational

    Dustin (c16eca)

  85. To be clear, impose God’s law on yourself. Let God administer his law.

    Don’t claim something you don’t actually know, but rather have faith about, is true in a rational manner such that you should impose it on everybody. That’s not reasonable, even if you want your guess to become a fact.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  86. Um you getting beeyotchslapped in the face is god’s law.

    That is for the ignorant tard.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  87. milhouse

    please, stop telling me what my faith commands, k?

    Aaron Worthing (e7d72e)

  88. …oh, man, I really want to see a Christian come in here and drop the Messiah! hammer, we’ll get a full-on faith war going on up in hizzle

    CliveStaples (838c1f)

  89. Aaron, I don’t give a damn what your faith, or lack of it, commands, but if you claim to believe in the Bible then you have no right to call it vile. And every time you call my God or His infallible commands vile, I will call you out on it.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  90. I’ll also keep calling you out every time you make stuff up about the Bible, which you clearly have never read.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  91. 39. This site has finally found its destiny — all weiner, all the time.
    Comment by angeleno — 6/1/2011 @ 9:44 am

    — Well, you could post a lot more often.

    Then it would be “all dick, all the time”.

    Icy Texan (438b93)

  92. I’am sorry but Jews should date whoever the hell they want.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  93. Considering how the New Testament changed the scope of God’s covenant, and who God’s community is, the attendant practices relating to families and marriage were similarly broadened. The Old Testament is not the complete expression of God’s covenant.

    *BOOM*

    CliveStaples (838c1f)

  94. Dustin, it’s not my guess, it’s God’s own word: “you shall not give your daughter to his son, or take his daughter for your son”. God hates intermarriage between His people and others. Jews who defy that law are traitors to God and to their people. This is not some obscure and extremist law, it’s as fundamental as circumcision. Jews who break the sabbath and gorge themselves on pork will still not marry out. It’s what’s kept us a people for 3300 years, through travails that would have dissolved anyone else. And I will not stand for ignoramuses imposing their unfounded values on my people, and calling our most important practices “vile”.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  95. you know those thingers you put after your groceries on the checkout thingy to separate your groceries from the next person’s? At the jewish grocery store all you have to do is hand that dividey thing to the guy at the end and he’ll swipe it and then bam you’ve donated $1 to help a jewish teen spend a year in Israel strengthening their jewish identity.

    I’ve never had them swipe one before, but I could. Many many moons ago there used to be lots of opportunities to support Israel but in everyday life you don’t encounter them as much anymore. Or at least that’s how my mom made it sound from back when she was just out of college and she was sorta dating a rather older wealthy jewish guy. She said they went to lots of dinners and events for Israel.

    Then she met dad.

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  96. Was that a bolt of lightning? Strange there’s no cloud.

    OH MY GOD WHAT HAPPENED TO CLIVE?

    papertiger (e55ba0)

  97. 83. Not that any of the above is relevant to this topic.
    Comment by Milhouse — 6/1/2011 @ 12:04 pm

    — Save the ‘above’ and use it as your signoff from now on. (Okay, to be fair you should use it on every other post; you sometimes make sense.)

    Icy Texan (438b93)

  98. Milhouse–given the actions of the Christ, it is vile. You need to broaden your definition of “God’s people” to more than just the Jews.

    CliveStaples (838c1f)

  99. I’ll also keep calling you out every time you make stuff up about the Bible, which you clearly have never read.

    Comment by Milhouse

    Don’t be so sensitive to different interpretations.

    Some people have different views on just what the bible is. Many think it is holy, without thinking the commands on how to properly handle your slaves are God’s endorsement of slavery, etc etc.

    You have the freedom to see it your way. That’s great. But you’re not the authority on this matter, and anyone who claims to be the authority is seriously overstepping.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  100. I take Stewart at his word. Not too hard to believe that Weiner is a pencil-d***

    Icy Texan (438b93)

  101. Some people have different views on just what the bible is.

    Only people who’ve never read it. It speaks for itself.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  102. Dustin, it’s not my guess, it’s God’s own word

    It’s your guess that it’s God’s word.

    Frankly, I think you’re a really smart guy with a few strange hangups. It’s not that you have a strong particular faith, but that you act as though we should give that more credence than our owns. Obviously YOU think you’re right, but you take it to a level that just isn’t deductive.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  103. tell me where

    where is it written what it is I’m meant to be?

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  104. I find people who claim to the the final arbiter of God’s word to be a bit tedious. In general.

    JD (474b75)

  105. Only people who’ve never read it. It speaks for itself.

    Comment by Milhouse

    “It” as in the one translation of the only Holy book in the world?

    Sorry, but you guessed as to which one is “it”. And, frankly, many guesses went into making “it”. And many assumptions are needed to read “it”.

    This is not novel stuff. People have to try very hard to debate how literal to translate stuff. Judiasm in particular works very hard on this aspect.

    It’s oral tradition that I could take and edit at will. God will not stop me, as proven by the Book of Mormon, or the many many other versions, additions, deletions, and completely different faiths.

    There is no force keeping the bible to one version, so even the faithful have to wonder which version is correct, or if any version has been accurately reproduced from the original oral traditions.

    When people try to assert their guess is something more, they are trying to trick people into giving them power, from God, that they don’t have. That’s probably not God’s wish. You have all you need, built in, even if you’ve never seen a holy book, to be a good man. I think that’s the most important holy book.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  106. Clive is back.

    It’s a miracle. (Crossing my self) Praise the Lord.

    papertiger (e55ba0)

  107. And the truth is that my personal guess is probably damn close to Milhouse’s personal opinions, but I don’t think that’s more than what it is.

    Milhouse and I have extremely similar views, but we have don’t apply it the same way. Not to bash the guy… I really think he’s OK. I just don’t see how faith is more than faith.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  108. Verily, motherf***er.

    CliveStaples (838c1f)

  109. Milhouse,

    Where dos Ruth fit into all this?

    :)

    Dan S (b5ccb6)

  110. “It” as in the one translation of the only Holy book in the world?

    Translation? I don’t need any steenkin’ translations. I read the original, first God’s original words exactly as He dictated the Torah to Moshe, and then the original words of the later prophets describing what He told them. I don’t need to rely on any translator to interpret them for me.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  111. Ruth converted. The laws of conversion are ultimately based on Ruth.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  112. But what has any of this got to do with the topic? We were discussing Weiner’s marriage, which was not a Jewish marriage, and in my opinion was hardly a marriage at all. Did they promise each other sexual exclusivity? I very much doubt it; on the contrary, I suspect they promised each other to leave each other alone and to each discreetly cater their own sex lives.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  113. Verily, motherf***er.

    Comment by CliveStaples

    Insert “internet leads to antisocial behavior” article here.

    papertiger (e55ba0)

  114. Isn’t it that Weiner’s marriage was a sham agreed upon. That they were both a couple of liabilities that needed to be tied off, so the arrangement was made?

    The wife was embarrassing Hillary somehow, and Weiner needed to cover up…
    oh, more crotch shots sent out on the internet then he could keep track of?

    papertiger (e55ba0)

  115. Is Anthony’s weiner kosher?

    :roll: Yeah I know that was lame.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  116. Anthony’s pickle isn’t kosher?

    papertiger (e55ba0)

  117. “Aaron, I don’t give a damn what your faith, or lack of it, commands, but if you claim to believe in the Bible then you have no right to call it vile.”

    There he goes again.

    You are not allowed to have opinions.

    What a colossal ass.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  118. “This is not some kind of extremism, it’s a very basic law that even not-very-observant Jews follow, because it’s the basis of Jewish identity.”

    “It’s only in the last 20-30 years that so many Jews have so abandoned their principles and their people as to accept intermarriage as normal.”

    Milhouse – The above two statements from the same paragraph seem slightly in conflict. Make up your freaking mind.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  119. Milhouse – I will not stand for ignoramuses imposing their religious values on me, and calling my beliefs “vile” because they are not in accordance with their own. Your supremacy doctrine and intolerance act is getting pretty stale.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  120. I don’t think Milhouse understands how he comes across. I suspect he would take offense if someone were to assert his reasoning against him, relying on, say, Southern Baptists or Iranian Mullahs as the supreme truth.

    It’s just not respect to put yourself in a position you deny others. Saying ‘I say this, so you are wrong’ combined with ‘I don’t give a damn what you say, you are wrong’.

    Anyway, enough of this.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  121. Daleyrocks, I have no idea what your beliefs are, and have never called them vile. But Aaron continually calls the Bible vile, while claiming to be a Christian, which means believing that same Bible (with a sequel) to be God’s word.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  122. RE: Comment by wheeler’s cat — 6/1/2011 @ 8:28 am

    You are incorrect in your characterization of what this woman said – I will leave it up to others to decide whether you are dishonest or simply ignorant.

    She’s talking about the retweets, not the original tweet, which she says she never saw because it was removed right away.

    Boris (9b9803)

  123. Daleyrocks, there’s no conflict between something being a bedrock Jewish principle, and a recent and temporary phenomenon of Jews abandoning their people to the extent of accepting the public flouting of such a principle. There are plenty of Americans who’ve turned their backs on basic American principles and embrace anybody and anything that is anti-American; that doesn’t change what America is about.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  124. Only people who’ve never read it. It speaks for itself.

    Quite. In fact the admonition to continue to study and examine your faith could lead one to conclude that God has a long range plan for understanding that allowed for that understanding to not be stagnant.

    Makewi (0864f9)

  125. the admonition to continue to study and examine your faith

    Where is that admonition to be found?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  126. milhouse

    i am a follower of jesus christ, son of god and a rabbi above all other rabbis. marriage outside of one’s faith is fully kosher by my faith. sorry, you do not own the old testament as your exclusive property. feel free to have your opinion, but mine is equally valid.

    and yeah, telling a person they cannot marry outside of their faith is wrong and was not meant to be a permanent injunction.

    Aaron Worthing (e7d72e)

  127. “Daleyrocks, I have no idea what your beliefs are, and have never called them vile. But Aaron continually calls the Bible vile, while claiming to be a Christian, which means believing that same Bible (with a sequel) to be God’s word.”

    Milhouse – I think you misunderstand Aaron. He is calling part of the Bible vile. So what. That is his opinion. He is entitled to it. It does not affect you or your beliefs one whit and there is no reason to get exorcised about it as you constantly do one this site.

    I think Dustin is right about you in #121:

    “I don’t think Milhouse understands how he comes across. I suspect he would take offense if someone were to assert his reasoning against him, relying on, say, Southern Baptists or Iranian Mullahs as the supreme truth.”

    You come across as authoritarian about other peoples’ beliefs. I consider myself a Christian. I do not submit myself to your authority to approve or disapprove of my spiritual beliefs or opinions (see your comment #89). Who the heck do you think you are? We have crossed this bridge before. Are you too stupid too learn?

    If you want religious debate, take it to another blog.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  128. I am very confused, now. Back in 2003 I attended a very nice wedding between a very nice Jewish boy and a very nice Methodist girl. They seem very happy and now have three very nice and brilliant children whom everybody seems to love very much.

    What is this God’s law business?

    elissa (444ec3)

  129. I believe in Lutheran Jesus and also cupcakes.

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  130. can I has a witness?

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  131. “What is this God’s law business?”

    elissa – You just broke it. $50 fine. Pay Milhouse.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  132. Sorry, daleyrocks. As you are aware I live in the great state of Illinois. Between the recent income tax hike and first installment of property taxes due this week I’m pretty tapped out. So, no dollahs for Milhouse under any circumstances.

    elissa (444ec3)

  133. Where is that admonition to be found?

    In the Old Testament, one example is Lamentations 3:40

    Let us search and try our ways, and turn again to the LORD.

    There are others.

    Makewi (0864f9)

  134. kman at 36

    you have eyes, right? then read, you lazy bum. its all here.

    Aaron Worthing (e7d72e)

  135. Brokeback kmart just can’t quit you, AW.

    JD (318f81)

  136. Anything that makes the GOP look sillier, the better. Thank God for Michelle Bachmann. (Sarah Palin isn’t going to run, IMHO).

    Comment by Kman — 5/16/2011

    So if it’s anyhow making the GOP look bad, no matter how silly and baseless, it’s worth talking about.

    I mean, slips of the tongue from tired campaigners are one thing. And I’ll even forgive her not knowing where the battle of Lexington and Concord took place.

    There’s Kman, making another weird criticism, entirely for silly points.

    In Lee’s situation, it’s the stupidity that gets me. And not the infidelity so much.

    […]

    Not that it forgives his stupidity about the WAY he went about this attempted affair (Craiglist? A photo? Really?!?).

    Oh, and lookee here, Kman bashed Chris Lee!

    That’s literally one single minute of googling if Kman is a complete hypocrite to have a hissy fit that we’re talking about Weiner’s idiotic twitter sexting. He’s actually claiming the exact things he freaked out about in the past are completely irrelevant to the point of outrage, simply because it’s a democrat, and he’s a partisan hack.

    Could there ever be someone more pathetic than Kman?

    Dustin (c16eca)

  137. Makewi: the admonition to continue to study and examine your faith
    Me: Where is that admonition to be found?
    Makewi: In the Old Testament, one example is Lamentations 3:40

    Huh? That says the exact opposite of your claim. The prophet says we should examine our ways, to see how they’ve diverged from God’s laws, and brought upon us the disaster we’ve just experienced; not, as you would have it, to examine our faith and God’s law, and “reform” it to conform to our ways! The Bible says over and over that God’s law is perfect and eternal and cannot ever be changed, and it’s people’s ways that must change. Ecclesiastes 7:29, for instance.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  138. Lutheran Jesus says that God’s law is pretty darn good but you want you can tweak it a little.

    It’s more like an old favorite recipe than law in the traditional sense.

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  139. right now I’m substituting low fat sour cream in lots of places

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  140. Here’s what God Himself had to say about it:

    “Do not add to what I am commanding you, and do not take anything away from it.” Deuteronomy 4:2

    “Everything that I command you, you shall keep it to perform; do not add to it and do not take away from it.” Deuteronomy 13:1

    So I don’t know how any person can come along later and say that God was mistaken, and has just a few amendments to His words. But that’s fine, you’re free to disagree; what you can’t do is say that He was wrong the first time, that His commands were “vile” or “evil”, and that those who stick to them are wrong. You can do whatever you like, but you can’t claim at the same time to believe that the Bible is God’s word and that it’s wrong to obey it. One of those contradicts the other.

    Here’s a good summary by the late R Aryeh Kaplan.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  141. well of course he’s gonna say that

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  142. Let’s put a fork in this one.

    It’s pretty much done.

    Pious Agnostic (6048a8)

  143. conservatism in a nutshell (heh) on this thread…penises and jesuses.
    😉

    wheeler's cat (ce6ac6)

  144. plus low fat sour cream

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  145. I have no idea what ‘nutshell’ means in reference to this thread.

    :/

    Anyway, I think Wheeler again looks pretty judgmental and intolerant. There’s a pretty interesting religious discussion here with different POVs. It’s intelligent and diverse with a lot of non Christians taking part.

    It’s not our fault the democrat’s rising star has no honor and sends his penis twitters to groupies. That’s on Wheeler’s team.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  146. Penises and Jesus are important. As if you had one or knew the other.

    But, a great political debate point. You guys always win with the snark and all. It always raises the game to the middle school level.

    Ag80 (1bc637)

  147. she’s just making an observation hey we should have a music

    here
    is Mr. frankmusik but he’s in America (!) and plus he’s working a little cherry cherry boom boom action

    this is the second song from his new set the first one really bombed first cause it wasn’t very good and second cause everybody misheard the chorus as “fear ‘n sodomy

    I don’t know that he’s really just a super-smart guy

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  148. I wonder what observations she would make if Weiner were a Republican.

    I have a hunch it would be more crass generalizations about how conservatives are terrible people, and no thoughtful contributions beyond that.

    Can you imagine what Nishi would say if it were Todd Palin or Paul Ryan having a private, months long chat with his follower groupie who happened to have stared in the film “Teenage Whores”?

    Why, I suspect Nishi would say it’s always perverts on the right in such a case. Yet in this case, no generalization about the left.

    That’s called being a hack.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  149. The reason why fascists oppose marxism is because marxists have not destroyed and killed the poor in their eyes. And yes fascism is far-left. Honestly Nishiturd is proof.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  150. __________________________________________

    But how is Clinton’s serial violations of his wedding vows irrelevant in the context of marriage? Doesn’t it make a mockery of the wedding itself to have a famous serial adulterer standing up there and say:

    One has to be the essence of a sleazebag to have the ultimate scumbag, aka Bill Clinton, presiding over one’s wedding.

    Some people have implied that Wiener is bisexual. Given the severe scrounginess of all the parties involved — not even including talk going back years about Hillary being a “carpet muncher” — I’d say that’s a given. Pretty much par for the course. The only question is if the dude eventually ends up giving HIV or some other STD to the wife.

    Mark (3e3a7c)

  151. The only question is if the dude eventually ends up giving HIV or some other STD to the wife.

    Not very likely, I wouldn’t think.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  152. Aaron, post 40 –

    Thanks, but I know there are far more angles to the CA prison release story than Weinergate, if one took the same effort to dig. And far more serious consequences. If this event goes unanalyzed and undocumented, despite Scalia’s foretelling dissent, the lesson will be missed – again. I for one have learned to not take law and order for granted.

    Y’all can discuss what you like, and as I said there are angles to this that are important. I only wish to issue a friendly warning that this stinks of Chandra Levy syndrome.

    Amphipolis (b120ce)

  153. The problem lies with the pathetic reaoning behind that decision, which is in part occasioned by the selection process that gave us Anthony Kennedy

    ian cormac (72470d)

  154. I wonder if Weiner is Kosher? He was married by Rabbi Kutcherpeckeroff? Huma? Is that short for Humidor? Or Humungous? Sorry about yer little weiner Tony. If they have kids, will they be Vienna Sausages or Lil’ Smokies? I wonder if he stays away from the Bratwurst isle? I can hear his wife now. Give me a Hotdog and I’ll hold the weiner.

    gilamonster0001 (a4b505)

  155. this stinks of Chandra Levy syndrome.

    Comment by Amphipolis

    I know what you mean.

    I do think this topic shouldn’t be the main thing we’re discussing.

    I also think it’s sad people just assert Hillary Clinton is a lesbian, and her aid was her lover because she was pretty. Why? Because Hillary wears pants and is assertive? Because she is married to a creep? Are women who get cheated on less likely to be heterosexual? Why did Bill marry her, then?

    It’s like Rush Limbaugh calling Cheslea (as a child) the family dog. Why bother with that?

    I disagree with Hillary’s politics, but I don’t think she’s a lesbian, or that anyone has any evidence she is. That such a rumor would exist is simply a consequence of how people react to women like her. Every office has a woman like this, right? Assertive, cold, not very sexual in her behavior (after all, she’s getting along in years).

    Huma was her assistant, so suddenly people treat her to wild speculation.

    But she and Weiner say they are in love. They say they are crazy ‘over the moon’ for eachother. I’ll take Huma at her word.

    This doesn’t just remind me of Chandra Levy… it reminds me of all that Nancy Grace style speculation, where caller after caller guesses the worst of everyone.

    Amph, the big story here is how the media is handling Weiner, rather than his stupid behavior.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  156. Amph – Plus, there was already a post here on that Supreme Court decision. Sorry you missed it.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  157. Chandra Levy syndrome is fatal

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  158. im not all that interested in crotch sniffing, right or left.

    Im more interested in the looming economic crash if congress defaults on American debt, in getting the fuck out of A-stan before we have to leave in helos from the rooftops of Kabul, in the June 5th anniversary of the 67 war and what is going to happen to Israels borders in the context of the Arab Spring, and in what the 47,000 returning soldiers are going to do when we get kicked out of Iraq in December in a jobless economy.

    How low will the dollar sink against the yen if America goes into foreclosure?

    wheeler's cat (ce6ac6)

  159. Yes, there was ONE post – I didn’t miss it.

    Amphipolis (b120ce)

  160. Chandra Levy Syndrome is much more than out-of-control speculation. It is the focus on the salacious – political nexus to the exclusion of all else, including terrorists easily boarding airplanes. Except that the terror I refer to is known already.

    Amphipolis (b120ce)

  161. It’s like Rush Limbaugh calling Cheslea (as a child) the family dog. Why bother with that?

    He didn’t quite do that. It was a sight gag, of the “oops, how did that picture get there?” variety. The kind of thing that Letterman, etc do all the time. It’s funny, once. Which, by sheer coincidence, is the exact number of times Limbaugh did it; funny how that works out, eh?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  162. It is the focus on the salacious – political nexus to the exclusion of all else,

    You raise a good point.

    Which, by sheer coincidence, is the exact number of times Limbaugh did it; funny how that works out, eh?

    Actually, I think it was funny zero times. Poor kid has to be the daughter of a president in this country, where people think they can joke to tens of millions of people about how ugly the kid is.

    Thank God Malia and Sasha don’t get too much of that, as far as I know.

    Frankly, I feel the same about bashing Hillary as a lesbo. Rumors like that are on the trig truther level. It’s not worth me getting upset about, but it’s also not good. Just let that go. Weiner is a sleaze, and Hillary has never done anything wrong in this category, unless you count sticking by her husband (I don’t hold that against her).

    Anyway, there are other stories.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  163. I don’t necessarily think that wondering if Hillary is a super secret lesbian is same as bashing her. It’s just normal curiosity fueled by a perception that she’s trapped in or resigned to a loveless marriage of convenience I think and if she is a super secret lesbian then good for her.

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  164. I don’t necessarily think that wondering if Hillary is a super secret lesbian is same as bashing her.

    Key word: “necessarily”

    Granted, it is possible for someone to be hopeful or respectful of Hillary while musing that maybe she is a lesbian. And then there’s the real world, where people are mocking a sexless menopausal pantsuit wearing woman who runs her office with an iron fist, as though she’s butch, and her attractive assistant must be her ‘carpet muncher’ to repeat how I saw it described, and therefore that assistant isn’t really aggrieved when the man she claims to love cheats on her.

    That is not a serious issue, but it’s ugly and derived from a place other than normal curiousity.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  165. it’s all like a big socialist jigsaw puzzle where none of the pieces really fit and so it just sits there all jumbly on your coffee table

    happyfeet (a55ba0)


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