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At least those women know what year it is:
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He campaigned in “57 states with one to go.”
Arizona Bob (aa856e) — 5/24/2011 @ 8:40 pmWithout TOTUS,
AD-RtR/OS! (c2826b) — 5/24/2011 @ 8:42 pmBozothis clown is lost.arizona
can we tell him he was only elected president of the last 8 states?
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 5/24/2011 @ 8:44 pmWhat happened on 24 MAY 08 ? I can see how people might still write 2010 in early JAN 2011, but he is off by 3 freakin years.
JD (d48c3b) — 5/24/2011 @ 8:45 pmHe also blew a toast to the Queen today. No word if Michelle gave her the Heimlich again this time.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/24/2011 @ 8:47 pmIt was a very good year for him. Now, not so much…
Dana (4eca6e) — 5/24/2011 @ 8:58 pmHave our liberal friends had any response to the silly date debacle? Are there talking points? Has OFA been engaged?
But as far as his blowing the toast by not knowing how it fits with God Save the Queen music where the heck are his protocol people? Where was the state department? Do they not prep him? Or does he not listen? You’d think after the bit with Michelle groping the queen last time they’d have been super prepared this time. Do we need a protocol and courtesy czar?
elissa (c7a0ab) — 5/24/2011 @ 9:17 pmIt isn’t particularly logical I don’t think to suppose any relationship between bumble’s stupid and Sarah Palin’s stupid. I think they can and do co-exist quite independently of each other.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/24/2011 @ 9:18 pmAnd, speaking of that stupid hoochie Palin, she’s such a bumbling fool and of such low intelligence that she managed to keep this project completely secret for six months. Guess she’s not so dumb after all, is she?
Milhouse (9ef3cc) — 5/24/2011 @ 9:19 pmHey, did T and Michaele
elissa (c7a0ab) — 5/24/2011 @ 9:25 pmSorry for the totallly fubard post just above. I was trying to ask if Tareq and Michaele Salahi or any other crashers got into the Queen’s state dinner.
elissa (c7a0ab) — 5/24/2011 @ 9:29 pmWho the F is Obama’s protocol officer, anyway? The toast thing was about the 157th stupid unforced error of this sort. Maybe it’s Joe Biden? Sheesh.
At least he didn’t bow.
Kevin M (298030) — 5/24/2011 @ 9:30 pm#2 – BOTUS.
Kevin M (298030) — 5/24/2011 @ 9:32 pmhe doesn’t represent America very well but that’s always been one of his biggest selling points in his head I think
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/24/2011 @ 9:32 pmif the presidency really for reals were an intelligence contest then President Ke$ha would be runnin this country just like a club and it would be more better is all
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/24/2011 @ 9:44 pmI like the way his signature looks like “BO,” since he really does stink.
Mark (411533) — 5/24/2011 @ 10:15 pmHow many of you haven’t made this mistake on a checkbook? Maybe he had the people of Joplin on his mind or was distracted.
Doesn’t matter. He is now +10 in the polls, NY 26 went to a Dem tonight – district that McCain won and the GOP outspent the Dem 4 to 1.
Sorry. It’s over, the GOP is going down, thanks to Paul Ryan, Gov. Walker, the teabaggers, and the greed that supports tax breaks for big oil and the rich at the expense of Medicare and the middle class.
Where’s the GOP going? You know where…
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Vin (42d3a3) — 5/24/2011 @ 10:22 pmRACIST!
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 5/24/2011 @ 10:35 pmComment by elissa — 5/24/2011 @ 9:17 pm
When you’re surrounded by “Yes Men”, which one is going to stand up and correct the Smartest Guy in the Room?
AD-RtR/OS! (c2826b) — 5/24/2011 @ 10:40 pmIsn’t it funny that pieces of garbage who think like Vin were the same ones calling out Palin’s severance taxes on oil companies?
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/24/2011 @ 10:43 pmIt was a very good year for him. Now, not so much…
Comment by Dana — 5/24/2011 @ 8:58 pm
I think Dana is on to something. In Obama’s subconscious he wishes that it were still spring of 2008. In those golden days he was largely admired worldwide, the media was running interference for him in a huge way, and he was doing what he loves to do and what he has a talent for, namely campaigning. Back then he didn’t have to produce anything, didn’t have to make any hard decisions, and had the luxury of letting someone else (Bush) make all the hard calls while he just sat back and issued criticisms coupled with the promise that he would do far better.
Here in 2011, his is the the desk at which the proverbial buck stops. He actually has to make hard choices and disappoint people whose adulation he so painstakingly sought. And even the once-compliant media is starting to question his wonderfulness. Is it any wonder that Obama yeans to go back to when it was all still fun and easy?
JVW (24ee9a) — 5/24/2011 @ 11:02 pmPalin supported earmarks she is a rino………….Mccain is the real deal.
/Stupid liberals and their projection.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/24/2011 @ 11:11 pmI wonder what it says about him that he doesn’t actually write his name. It’s completely illegible. If you look at Michelle’s signature, you can read every letter. Obama just writes the first letter of each name and then it looks like shorthand, just straight lines with a squiggle in each one.
Is it arrogance, that he doesn’t need to bother to write something people can read? Is it his feelings about his name, perhaps having to do with having had more than one name growing up? Etc. I’d never really looked at his signature before and I was struck that it’s completely impossible to actually read his writing.
Best wishes,
Laura (9d1bb3) — 5/24/2011 @ 11:13 pmLaura
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At least those women know what year it is:
Not just that, but I bet they wouldn’t have been as embarrassingly, ludicrously painful to watch as “BO” was at the state dinner given in his honor today at Buckingham Palace. Talk about faux pas. Talk about being out of his league. Talk about buffoon.
Between things like that and his bowing before the king of Saudi Arabia and the Emperor of Japan — and since he (thanks to the genius of a majority of voters in 2008) is an emblem of the US at this moment in its history — he’s rather fitting for a society that is dealing with a sense of stagnation, torpor and decline.
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And a lot of mindless liberalism in its place will result in what? A Greece? A Venezuela? An Argentina mixed together with a bit of France? A forever-dysfunctional urban America paired with forever-dysfunctional Mexico? A blue-state Eastern Seaboard that is sort of a paradigm of anomie and staleness, symbolized by decades of continuous loss of population and representatives in the US Congress?
Mark (411533) — 5/24/2011 @ 11:29 pmI have never done so, and I’d bet money that very few of us have ever done so. Maybe you have, because you’re as stupid as your idol.
And where the Ds committed serious fraud by running a fake “tea party” candidate who got 9% of the vote. The R + “tea party” vote was a clear majority. Clearly 9% of the voters support the tea party but didn’t pay enough attention to know what was going on.
Sounds like what you did on your last date. Which was at least ten years ago.
Milhouse (9ef3cc) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:04 amI think if there would be a comparison to make it would not be to Bachmann or Palin…it would be to Bush…imagine the reaction if George Bush had made a mistake like that.
Terrye (7d99e4) — 5/25/2011 @ 4:00 amI might have, occasionally, written 2008 in the first week of 2009, and so forth. But there’s something disturbing about writing 2008 in 2011; Much the same with the 57 state mistake; Some things are just so deeply basic that nobody gets them wrong past elementary school. Maybe there IS a medical issue involved. Perhaps that’s why he’s so obsessive about teleprompter use, to compensate for some basic mental problem.
Brett Bellmore (6652c2) — 5/25/2011 @ 4:41 amHe thought he was in one of the ’57 states’ maybe in ‘Sunshine, Florida’, Corwin, was possibly not the best candidate, what the NY State party would never make that mistake, but that faux site by Ian’Buffalo’ Murphy, the Koch impersonator, probably had a little to do with it. Meanwhile the ‘Caddyshack’ attack on Gaddafi, continues
ian cormac (72470d) — 5/25/2011 @ 4:45 amVIn is the racist hilljack midget plagiarist, William Yelverton. He is competing with imdw to see who can get banned under the most names. If you mistake 2008 for 2011 during 2011, you are too stupid to dress yourself.
How many of you haven’t made this mistake on a checkbook?
Never. Not once. Do not dare project your levels of idiocy onto the population as a whole.
JD (318f81) — 5/25/2011 @ 5:16 amObama gets a pass on botching the date, it ain’t no big thing. I wrote down 2011 for the year my birth only yesterday.
A pretty girl walked by in a skimpy outfit that looked like it had been spray painted on her. That put a smile on my face and a hiccup in my concentration.
ropelight (5b95e1) — 5/25/2011 @ 5:16 amIs it arrogance, that he doesn’t need to bother to write something people can read? Is it his feelings about his name, perhaps having to do with having had more than one name growing up? Etc. I’d never really looked at his signature before and I was struck that it’s completely impossible to actually read his writing.
None of the above. I sign my full name, including my middle name. You can read the first letter of my first name (J); the second letter might be a e (which is what it actually is), c, or an o; then there is a pair of legible “f”s, and then a long line on which is interspersed some loops and spikes, which represents the second syllable of “Jeffrey” and my middle and last names combined, but which only a telepath could decipher. Perhaps having an extremely common monosyllabic name (Smith–yes, really!) has an impact (which is why I use my middle name, to help differentiate myself from all the other J. Smiths around)*, but not on the level of cognitive awareness. It’s simply that generally signing my name is a task, and a task that I’ve done so many times in my life that it’s only a task. Perhaps if I was signing a piece of art, I’d think and do differently, but a check….
And I do in general have bad handwriting–for most of my life people have made jokes to the effect that I write badly enough to qualify as an MD.
And working in retail, btw, I see plenty of signatures from customers, and plenty of them are as bad as mine, or nearly so. But there is a gender and age trend to signature neatness–women almost always seem to have a neater signature than men, and older people seem to have neater signatures than younger folks. Perhaps the age difference is due to schooling; but the difference between men and women–I’m not going to even try to explain that one! XD.
*and why I use a nickname in Blogworld. The person who sometimes comments here as “Jeffrey Smith” is not me, but when I see him post a comment I always get a little shock. “Wait, I don’t remember writing that!”
kishnevi (07cf78) — 5/25/2011 @ 5:59 amvin
where are you from? in most of America the Dems look like they are on the ropes.
Answer that question for me before posting again. That is not a request.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:18 amSarah Palin is running though. It will be supersweet to see rove and dr. K and douthat scramble like ants around a burning anthill.
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:22 amSarah, the Movie
and, btw, in january of a given year i have made the mistake of forgetting it was a new year.
Indeed, i almost said it was the wrong century, in january of 2000, though not on a check.
But i have never thought it was three years ago. that is frankly bizarre. And my deeper point is this. you plead for us to be understanding, but when is that kind of understanding shown toward sarah palin, or michele bachmann or any other republican woman? Hell, Sarah Palin once told a crowd a tea partiers that it was not yet time to party like it was 1773, and she was mocked by liberals for not knowing when the revolution was. Except there was one problem. she didn’t say she was referencing the revolution and if you go back and see what happened in 1773, you would discover that the Boston Tea Party happened in that year. in other words by all evidence Sarah Palin was making a correct reference to a date and she was mocked for it.
They laugh and call republican women stupid when they get things right. another example is when Christine O’Donnell CORRECTLY said that separation of church and state was not in the 1st amendment. it isn’t. but that didn’t stop a crowd of LAW STUDENTS from laughing at her.
The contrast couldn’t be greater.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:25 amBTW, this account of the screwed up toast makes it sound like it was the fault of the Brits–or at least, whoever it was that told the Coldstream Guards band to start playing before Obama finished speaking.
kishnevi (07cf78) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:28 amSorry, Scots Guards, not Coldstream Guards. Although the idea of a Scots Guards playing anything other than bagpipes is a little counter-stereotypical.
kishnevi (07cf78) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:34 am@worthington
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:38 amthe problem at this point is branding. COD will never escape the branding as stupid and ditzy (i am not a witch). Palin and Bachman are branded as also stupid and crazy. (i can see russia from my house) and crazy eyes Bachman.
You can’t overcome that, because of cognitive neuroscience and the biology of belief. It can take 10,000 reps to unlearn something.
In America, attractive women are percieved as less intelligent.
Its cultural stereotyping reinforced by stuff like Palin’s wink in the debate and COD’s witch costume.
We will have $ 4-5 gas, which is what he wanted, consequently ‘electricity prices will naturally skyrocket’ he’s dunping 30-40 million in medicaid,
ian cormac (72470d) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:43 amthat’s the best part of his healthcare solution, abandoning allies left and right, yes that’s a sign
of genius, there.
The president may be a “Manchurian candidate” who was reacting to an outdated mental cue. Have you noticed that you never see him and Raymon Shaw in the same room, at the same time?
Jeff Crump (f9f615) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:49 amwheeler
COD never wore a witch costume. and Palin never said that you can see russia from her house.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:58 amhe kids let’s make a movie is just what shallow over-rated empty-suited hoochies do
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:58 amCan’t even say nice try with this false equivalency. But I might point out that if Bachmann or Palin got caught jotting down the wrong year — something quite commonly done — they would dig in their high heels and insist, perhaps with some backup from the Heritage Foundation, that the rest of us are wrong and that they got the year right.
Larry Reilly (0e1b2d) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:59 amcrap that should be *hey* kids
still groggy this morning
which, good morning, nishi! here is a song for to make your morning better
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:01 amBut that is not the point. Most of the electorate BELIEVES COD wore a witch costume and that Palin said that. Because of terebi, viral youtubes and pop-culture and the biology of belief.
and its really difficult for humans to unlearn things like that.
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:03 amLarry
> quite commonly done
really, when have you ever been off about the year… BY THREE YEARS?! I never have.
I mean my grandmother in 2003 thought it was around 1991, but she had alzeimers and as i said to my mom at the time, “and she turns on the TV and sees President Bush, Colin Powell and Dick Cheney all talking about kicking Saddam Hussein’s keister. its confusing!”
joking aside, that is not a common mistake. nor is forgetting how many states there are in america.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:03 amPalin never said “I quit” either but guess what?
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:04 amwheeler
that is not biology. that is biased media. don’t make excuses for it.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:04 amWheeler,
Bachmann has raised over 25 children, ran a successful multi million dollar business and was a federal prosecutor and now a successful politician
oh well, right, not much to see there now is it?
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:17 amMr. Aaron even the title of the post betrays a widely-held perception that Sarah Palin is no longer sui generis – she’s of a class now – and her fortunes going into 2012 are tied to the fortunes and vicissitudes of her classmates in a way what they weren’t in 2008
I think comment #37 is a lot perceptive in this regard.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:18 amAaron, I have to warn you; this “wheeler’s cat” person, I believe, is a maddening individual also known as nishizonoshinji; I’ve seen her at PW.
You’ll go round and round, and ultimately the “proof” will turn on some twisted application of quantum theory, evolutionary biology, and the demographic bomb (tick-tock) that’s going to spell the ultimate, liberating, end to all of the old-fart conservative dinosaurs.
Such insane rantings generally punctuated by “lulz” and “lawl”.
Oh, and unless she’s experienced another epiphany, some talk about the absolute moral authority of her Sufi Muslim belief will be in the mix as well.
If I’m wrong, then I apologize to “wheeler’s cat”, but the commentary style is eerily similar.
Just a heads up, my man 🙂
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:22 amAW – wheelers/ nishi has Sully levels of hatred for Team R women. When she goes off her meds, you can expect the feedback loop style of idiocy that others demonstrate. She could not care less aboyut facts, kind of like the JournoList Larry Reilly. Teh Narrative uber alles.
JD (d48c3b) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:23 amJD and happyfeet know nishi (wheeler’s cat) as well Aaron.
happyfeet is friendly with her; I think you’ll find JD holds a much different opinion.
Me? I’m ambivalent, but have seen the threadjacking that ensues once the ramblings begin.
You’ve already seen reference to biology, no?
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:25 amBob
i don’t plan to go 15 rounds on this. either you see the hypocrisy or you don’t. either you believe we can be rational about these things, or you believe we are a slave of biological destiny. its like the people who insist everyone is a little racist. you can’t convince them that they are only speaking for themselves.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:28 amBob Reed is correct. A convergence of trolls. I wonder why they do that?
But there is a flaw in nishi’s reasoning, silly as it is. If her pop-science (and she has been shown, repeatedly, to claim false knowledge, ranging from Islam to quantum physics to science fiction to zoology)is correct, and the perceptions of others makes the reality of a person…
Well, what do the majority of people on several websites think of nishi?
So she must be shallow, mentally ill, and both a braggart and and liar.
I mean, if public perception directs reality!
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:29 amPalin’s “wink” at the debate doesn’t signal a lack of intellegence. It carries the usual connotation of, “know what I mean?”
In the age of mass-culture-ghetto-fetishism, where this signal has by and large been replaced by, “Do you feel me, dog?”, or, “See what I’m sayin’ Homes?”, the spoken phrase, “Know what I mean”, can seem antiquated; but the facial expression and gesture carry the same “knowing” connotation regardless. In the same manner that a smile has a universal meaning among humans.
A la Desmond Morris’ work analyzing the facial expressions of babies worldwide.
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:31 amOK Aaron, I just thought I’d give you a heads-up.
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:33 amnishi is cool beans she has a point of view and a way of expressing it what is a lot delightfully all her own
the nets of comment sections are cast precisely in hopes of netting comments such as hers
no?
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:34 amDon’t forget her hearting of a little genocide. She really is a sick twist.
Larry – if you commonly get the current date wrong, and are 3 years off, you should not be trusted with anything sharper than a crayon. But, being a JournoLister, that is already the case for you.
JD (d48c3b) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:35 amHappyfeet – only if said nets are cast by orderlies in white lab coats.
JD (306f5d) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:40 amThe convergance of trolls is unsurprising. Threads where O!’s idiocy is put forth and the hypocrisy of the media in calling Palin an idiot while hyperventialting about Obama’s Brilliance!,Judgement!, and Superior Temperment! draws them like moths to a flame; in defense of their Nietzschian ubermensch…
Kind of like any post with RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in the title draws a brigade of Ronulans to combat the heretics 🙂
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:40 amJD, I know you like you some feets, but his comment above says it ALL. He likes to say wildly outrageous things to irritate others and get people to respond…much like our friend nishi. He also likes to sound weird, like nishi.
So maybe nishi doesn’t believe her nonsense, either.
Anyway, I was unaware that defending genocide was any kind of beans, let alone cool beans. Also, her way of expressing herself is delightful? As I say, Mr. Feet reveals himself pretty interestingly here.
Jeeeeez.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:45 amWell, just last night someone asked me how old I am and I had to ask what year it was in order to make the calculation. On the other hand, I was only wondering for a moment whether it was 2010 or 2011 and made a joke about verifying the latter. I can’t really imagine being off by three years.
Well, maybe we can start a compare-and-contrast thing. Sarah Palin was alleged to misreference a well-known year from over 200 years ago, and was off by three. It turns out her detractors were simply ignorant. But Obama misreferences the current year by the same amount, three years. It’s hard to pass this off onto his detractors. Makes you wonder.
Jim S. (d9d37d) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:53 amhai feets.
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:58 amyou are missin’ the point.
the Palin hagiography means She. Is. Running.
Too many periods. Weird syntax. Missing capitalization. Self-indulgent verbiage.
Nuttier than squirrel poop.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:00 amI mean, that is what most people think here. So it MUST be true!
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:01 amthat is not true Mr. Jester nishi raises the very salient not-nonsensical point that for Palin “the problem at this point is branding” – and the question is raised – to what degree can the Sarah Palin brand hope to define herself as distinct from the kooky Bachmann hoochie?
Here is twittery twittery twit Bachmann just last week, twittering…
That’s very interesting and I will tell you why. The Minnesota Team R monkeys were handed control of the legislature in Minnesota for the first time in many many moons. Since before Trickster stoled the moon from the sky. They were elected in 2008 why? Why I ask you?
Cause of the spendings!
But wham bam thank you ma’am they can’t wait to start in with their social con agenda for which they’d won no mandate whatsoever. And it’s an a lot dividey issue even for Team R there. And Bachmann is enthusiastically shaking her pom poms for Team Let’s Enshrine Our Religion In The Constitution.
So to what extent are Bachmann’s deranged antics helpful or unhelpful to Sarah Palin? Palin’s worked hard to co-opt the Tea Party message for her own personal fun and profit, but as Bachmann demonstrates an eagerness to pervert the mandate what the Tea Party worked so hard for, this can’t but complicate Sarah Palin’s messaging.
No?
Or do you think voter people make a huge distinction between Bachmann and Palin?
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:03 amSimon – your perception of nishi/wheelerz has the added bonus of not only seeming to be true, but actually being true.
JD (306f5d) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:05 amyup she’s running
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:06 amrun run run as fast as you can you can’t catch her she’s the stinky cheese hoochie
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:07 amhmmm. Doesn’t scan.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:08 amYou don’t do yourself any good with this, Mr. Feet. You continue to write and push ideas that many find to be misogynistic and boorish. It’s not just my opinion. It’s the opinion of many people, across several websites.
That’s fine. You think you are wildly amusing, and a few people agree with you. Others continue to suggest you knock off the female bashing. You get your knickers in a twist that you are not a misogynist, because you say you aren’t—despite you repeated statements that demonstrate that you do indeed have issues with women.
I don’t expect you to agree, nor do I care to fight with your silly nonsense. But surely you are starting to see that when you feel you have a great deal in common with a nutcase like nishi, you should worry.
But heck, more power to you. I’m glad you amuse yourself.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:08 amAnd Mr. Feet? Thanks for once again proving my point, as I wrote the first response. You are nothing if not reliable.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:09 amEric Sarah Palin is an opportunistic whore.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:10 amWhy would anyone not make a distinction between the 2, happyfeet? One is Sarah, the other, Michelle. One is a former Gov and VP candidate from Alaska. One is a former State Sen and Fed prosecutor from Minnesota. You will also note that the issue you chose does not track with Palin’s actions as Gov.
JD (85b089) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:12 amwe’ll see Mr. JD but I think outside of Minnesota and Alaska they’re perceived as two faces of the same coin
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:14 amJust because Bachmann, and the MBM, declares her to be the “Tea-Party candidate” doesn’t mean she is.
The Tea-Party is a diverse disparate group who’s only consensus coalesces around fiscal issues. And regardless of the “branding” you’re concerned about happyfeet, they’ll still vote for candidates that vote that way on legislation.
I contend that the Tea-Party is not too responsive to the usual and customary “branding”; at least not in the way you’re familiar with from advertising and marketing.
We’ll really know who the Tea-Party candidate is when the primary returns are counted 😉
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:18 amDo you really think that Palin and Bachmann are percieved as two sides of the same coin?
Because I’m kind of skeptical for reasons I mentioned in #76.
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:19 amDo you know what is superstrange, feets?
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:22 amNo conservative blogs are talking about Sarah the Movie ….except Sully.
Not even HotAir.
What does that mean?
Mr. Bob something is causing a shift in perceptions of the Tea Party and I don’t think it’s their message about the spendings
so what’s going on here? I think the Tea Party is taking on baggage.
People haven’t taken care to keep it apart and separate from the social con clutches of Bachmann and DeMint and, yes, Palin – who is a lot perceived as being somewhat more strident of a social con than she deserves. But just as the party of tea has taken on the baggage of a various and sundry cast of characters, so can – and so has – Sarah Palin herself I think.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:26 amI am outside of MN and AK, and I do not perceive them as being 2 sides of the same coin. And I don’t really care for either one. I just tire of this perception crap, false narratives, etc …
JD (d56362) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:27 amDo you suppose that Obama can see 2011 from the porch of the White House?
Another thought struck me looking at that highly stylized signature. First of all a stylized signature like that is the mark of a freaking egomaniac.
But when I look at closely, that stylized initial letter looks more and more like a giant middle finger to the rest of the world. What a little twerp!
Mike Myers (0e06a9) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:31 amThe only reason the TEA party would be taking on said baggage is because some people willfuly help spread a false narrative. Rather than helping them, why not push back against Teh Narrative?
JD (6e25b4) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:32 amHot Air touched on it a little in their quotey quote final post yesterday. And Drudge has it. But I think what it means is… it’s becoming embarrassingly obvious that Palin thinks she can fabricate a groundswell of marketing hype eerily and distastefully similar to the sort what swept bumble into office in 2008.
Palin and Obama are weird soulmates of a vapid yet empathetic and tribal political mediocrity what’s crack to a not inconsiderable segment of dimbulb Americans.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:32 amMr. JD I do push back against the Narrative. All the time. This is why I so hoped Mr. Daniels would join the fray.
But he didn’t and now we’re in a pickle.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:35 amoh feets. Obama and Palin are not the same.
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:37 amPalin hears voices in her head.
And rove, dr. k, et all tried to suppress Palinism for a reason.
She can’t win a presidential election.
And everyone knows that but her.
Do you know what is superstrange, feets?
No conservative blogs are talking about Sarah the Movie ….except Sully.
Not even HotAir.
What does that mean?
Comment by wheeler’s cat — 5/25/2011 @ 8:22 am
It means that nishi is either a liar or incompetent. (But doesn’t rule out her being both.)
From Ace of Spades:
Oh Boy: Palin Rolling Out Feature Length Film Extolling Her Brief Governorship, Putting Gloss on Resignation, In… June
http://minx.cc/?post=316659
With over 450 comments so far, both pro and con on Palin and a presidential run. But conservative blogs are not talking about this.
Have Blue (854a6e) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:38 amHappy
Palin’s fabricated alot
1st she turned a bribe campaign by a construction company into a “big Oil” vendetta which got her elected after she was previously rejected for statewide office
2nd she offered support to candidates but not money, words but not campaign stops, and quietly abandoned the one’s that were mired in controversy
3rd she turned on McCain, wrote more lies than clinton – all for cash
4th – She quit, lie about the reasons why
5th – she’s now quit Alaska
6th – She’s dragging out her committment to the 2012 election to maximize revenue
7th – oh she raised taxes, lied about it
8th – increased spending to heights never seen before, lied about it
9th – gave 1/2 a billion dollars cash to a foriegn company to compete against American interests
10th – has completely stayed out of an issue thats been/being debated that she urged to be passed – showing that she is more than just the expected levels of cynical politician hubris
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:40 amNishi/wheelerz does not havbe even a passing acquaintance with the truth.
JD (822109) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:42 amcarrie underwood is a master of the extended metaphor I think
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:42 amty feets. hotair has almost 2k comments, and they are palinfans.
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:44 amis it on redstate or patterico or PW or Eunomia or Douthat yet?
i confess i dont read conservative blogs much anymore.
😉
Nishi and epwj are 2 peas in a pod.
JD (822109) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:44 amthe niche Palin fills is maybe a lot more likely to be found listening to talk radio than on the internet is my guess
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:47 amwheeler
on what planet is sullivan a conservative?
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:52 amuntrue. she is the twitter queen.
dig this comment
nice.
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:56 amyou see feets….since Huck and Daniels dropped out, Palin is your only hope.
bend over because it comes again, fiscal cons.
😉
Sully is a conservative shill glossed with Palin-hatred and a non-altruistic desire for legislated gay rights. He wrote his thesis on Oakeshott.
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:59 amOn Balloon Juice he has been moved into the Blogs We Mock and Monitor column.
there’s Christie yet I guess, but I’m not particularly hopeful
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:59 amWell happyfeet,
I might counsel that we consider a possibility for the Tea-Party’s apparent waning support to be the obvious one that I feared going into the mid-terms; faddism…
A large number of the TP folks had been energized by the Obamacare cram-down, as well as Obama’s, and the Democrat Congress’, wild spending binge. These previously low information voters, some who had never taken part in the electoral process in their adult lives, finally were motivated to stop mumbling excuses like, “one person’s vote doesn’t matter”, and actually get up and do their duty as citizens of a democratic republic.
But, like, staying informed and involved is hard man…Especially when you’d rather be watching American Idol, or whatevz. And I mean, it’s like two years until they can be heroically involved again!!! You can’t expect folks to stay motivated when there’s good TV, music video, and web porn to submerge themselves in…
To put it simple, the MBM ballyhooed their great victory in November, and they think they’re done…
They did their part man, and can’t be bothered keeping up with what the folks they elected are doing. And some might be getting tired of being told their racists for opposing Obama. But really, they just lost interest.
And as you well know from the world of advertising and marketing, when the buzz is gone, you’re on the exit ramp to no-where’s-ville…
So I don’t think that they’ve become offensive as much as lost the “buzz” amongst friends and neighbors in folks’ social circles.
What I fear, and what remains to be seen, is if all of these “staunch” conservatives ever get up off their couches and vote again.
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:59 ampardon, bend over because here it comes again, fiscal cons.
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:00 amI rest my case. The truth and nishi/wheelerz will never be found in the same time zone.
JD (822109) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:01 amChristie won’t run for the same reason Huck dropped out.
They can’t beat Obama. Huntsman is positioning for 2016. Like Rubio and Thune.
Palin is your only hope, feets.
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:02 amwheeler
sullivan was once a credible conservative. but hasn’t been for years.
hasn’t been interesting in years either, except as a study in crazy.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:05 ambut it’s not just declining approval Bob it’s rising disapproval too
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:06 amLOL, now EPWJ is saying that Palin’s not announcing whether or not she is running yet is ‘proof’ of her ‘fabrications’. Another ‘proof’ is that she’s bought a house outside Alaska. He actually says that moving to another house is evidence she’s dishonest.
Now, I’ve tried to be nice to EPWJ since he spammed several threads with a quote of mine to prove I was a democrat moby who didn’t want Perry to be reelected as governor (he cut out the part of the quote that undermined his claim).
In other words, I’ve seen EPWJ fabricate lies about me, and now he’s posting a list of distortions and fabrications. I guess we’ve all seen some of these claims in the past. Nice people have carefully explained to EPWJ why he’s in error, and he responds by getting quit ugly.
I think it’s sad. EPWJ is part of the corruption in the oil industry. He whines about foreign interests, but where’s he right now?
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:09 amSarah Palin the talking head for money is 180 degrees from Sarah Palin the liberal tax and spend gov
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:12 amBefore some of you believe Wheeler’s trolling, consider what’s happened to the other big names in the race. I think the smarter candidates will wait as long as they can to announce they are running.
If there’s a bunch of astroturf and lying going on, that’s probably funded by some of the candidates. You might want them to shoot their wad at someone else, and then jump in as the solution to a lost primary.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:12 amI pointed out in #9 that this project has been going on since last November and Palin has kept it completely secret. The dumb hoochie of feet’s imagination couldn’t possibly have pulled that off.
Milhouse (9ef3cc) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:12 amNow these are most likely two sides of the same coin 🙂
But, as always, I could be mistaken.
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:12 amEricPWjohnson please buy me a new irony meter.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:13 amSeriously nishi, The Huck?!? Hunstman?!?
Obama’s unbeatable?
That last one reveals the inherent “wishcasting” in your statements.
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:14 amlol. he is certainly not a credible liberal. Sully consistently pimps conservative boilerplate and pisses and moans how the GOP has fallen off from “true” conservatism.
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:14 amAnd you are right, he is uninteresting.
Except she was conservative on taxation and spending as governor, and you just repeatedly lie that she wasn’t, cherry picking something that is actually a response to the corruption of the industry you work for.
And you’ve seen this carefully explained, so you know that summing her up as a tax and spend liberal is simply a lie. But we both know you lie. Why do you do it? What about Palin made you expose a lack of integrity? Whatever it is, that’s a reason to like her.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:14 amBTW, can EPWJ’s behavior be described as something other than trolling?
Just spitting out the same claim, over and over again, after it’s been discussed and resolved, seems like an effort to troll.
It’s sad. Sometimes I think EPWJ’s got an interesting perspective, but what’s the point of talking to someone who isn’t honest?
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:16 amAnd the core of EPWJ’s lie is that a “severance tax” is not a tax as that word is usually understood. It’s a royalty, and there’s no reason why a conservative should not raise it.
Milhouse (9ef3cc) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:17 amwho would that be?
i think…Palin can take the nom. she is tied with Romney even tho shes not running yet.
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:17 amIf she gets the nom she can negotiate romney or pawlenty or daniels or christie onto the VP slot.
sweet.
What are you, 12 years old? You failed to cite these positions.
I could list plenty of Sullivan positions that he argues all the time which are clearly hard left. He’s a Trig Truther, he opposes the war effort, he demands gay marriage in all 50 states, he’s pro choice, he’s in favor of pot smokers not being prosecuted, he’s opposed to waterboarding.
His statements on spending and taxing are basically what Obama said in his 2008 campaign.
You’re wrong, nishi. Andrew Sullivan is a liberal democrat, and he always has been. His claims to the contrary were dishonest.
Only one of those kooks who thinks CNN and the WAPO are conservative can’t see this. That’s why you resort to ‘pissing’ and ‘moaning’ as arguments.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:20 amSully is no conservative Weeler he is just pretending.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:20 amWheeler*
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:21 amI believe pot smokers should not be prosecuted if thye have a medical license to do so.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:21 amWell, Palin hasn’t announced, so you kinda seem incoherent.
I was referring primarily to Rick Perry, though.
Of course Palin could win the nomination and would then pick someone like Daniels. Thanks for the brilliant insight. LOL.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:21 amOur next President
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/25/growing-jobs-big-in-texas/
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:25 amI notice that you omit Cain from any of your discussions nishi. Freudian slip?
Because there’d be a whole lot of black folks, who voted in lockstep by and large for Obama, who’d be swayed by his steady presence in the race.
And before you cite lack of foreign policy experience, a legitimate voter reluctance that I admit sharing, explain to me again all of the awesomely awesome foreign policy cred Obama had in 2008; without going down the BRILLIANCE!, JUDGEMENT!, SUPERIOR TEMPERMENT! sideroad if you don’t mind-becasue there are many episodes over the last few years that rebut those very subjective assessments. Like, for instance, the one Aaron highlighted in this very post…
lawl
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:26 amHopefully she picks Perry.
And blacks are at it again playing the race card-Sorry for the off topic.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:27 amRick Perry might have done somethings to offend islam………you won’t stand for that.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:28 amPerry was just in Doha, has an office here
No kidding..
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:34 amWhy do people like Sarah Palin?
I know the answer. I think her detractors know the answer. EPWJ definitely knows the answer.
We have a broken government. Badly needed reforms are ignored for the benefit of politicians. Certain companies have an easy path to corrupt dealings, because most politicians simply can’t be trusted. They will break any politician who doesn’t play their way.
Palin’s personality isn’t one I’d like to hang out with. Her experience level isn’t at the presidential level (then again, Romney and Obama’s aren’t either, in my personal opinion). The reason someone like me likes Palin is that she isn’t corrupt. She’s a true believer. EPWJ is trying so hard to paint her as a liar because her integrity is basically all she’s got going for her.
But after all those ethics probes, people digging through her trash, posting her entire email account to the internet, monsters moving next to her to monitor her family… nothing corrupt has shown up. She’s utterly clean.
So people who have completely lost their faith in our government find that extremely appealing, and much more important than skill level.
Palin has never been my preference for the nomination, but if she’s the nominee, I think that’s bad news for Obama to some extent. He will have a harder time spending those billion dollars demonizing her, because we’ve heard it all. Only corrupt people claim she’s dishonest and horrible at this point. Even happyfeet doesn’t think she’s a horrible person.
She’s probably better on spending and foreign policy, and a simple look at ethics might actually impress a lot of swing states. My guess is that it would be a close election, and conservatives would really turn out.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:36 amPalin worked far too hard to return Meghan’s coward daddy to our depraved and timorous senate for her to be too too much of a true believer in very much at all I think.
That was not the act of a principled person.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:40 amYour accusing someone of not being principled?
Shakes head and walks off grumbling about irony.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:41 amYou know EPWJ doesn’t like Rick Perry, because Perry has repeatedly vouched for Sarah Palin. I can’t think of another politician Perry has gone out of his way so often for.
Perry (and Dewhurst) have been very good about reasonable and never ending hunts for budget cuts. The argument that some small cut won’t make a different never seems to work here, even though it’s employed all the time.
I think Perry would be a pretty good president.
I also think Pawlenty (though I am less familiar with him) could be a good president too. At least he’s got a spine. His attempt to grab Daniels supporters seems smart.
Hundreds of millions of dollars will be spent ruining the reputation of anyone the GOP nominee cars about. I’d hate to be those guys right now.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:41 amYou like Perry?
What if he calls islam the religion of pedophiles?
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:41 amMr. Dustin she’s a wonderful person when she’s in her appropriate element – she’s a horrible person when she joins in this horrific game of demeaning and trivializing the presidency at this most crucial juncture in time.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:42 amI see where you’re coming from. In that case, Mccain didn’t pick her, she picked him. I think that’s a legitimate point for people to disagree on.
She was showing loyalty to him, etc etc. It’s a political thing, and it shows that Palin expects something like that in return from all the people she’s gone to bat for. She’s been laying the groundwork for years for 2012 this way.
But she can’t escape that she supported Mccain. If you find that unacceptable, you should hold that against her.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:45 am2008 was the year that the oceans stopped rising in celebration of the first time Michele Obambi was proud of her country, because The One we have been waiting for was nominated and won. It is no surprise that 2011 and 2008 were so easily confuzzled.
JD (0d2ffc) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:49 amhappyfeet, that’s probably true to some extent. It depends on how you see it. Is it a demand that the President be ethical, and many are convinced Palin can be trusted, but feel let down by everyone else?
Or it is a Rachel Ray Can’t Cook thing, where people find someone more appealing because they aren’t elite or even very good. Palin really doesn’t have anywhere near the experience I’d want my president to have. It’s a very difficult job that someone should have to aspire to, like climbing Mt Everest.
It’s just those different ideas compete.
I personally trusted Mitch Daniels, and found his experience to be quite strong, but then, he didn’t want those hundreds of millions of Obama 2012 dollars ruining the lives of his wife and kids. So right now I’m going to have an open mind about Palin. She probably won’t get my vote, but that’s up to her competitors.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:50 amhappyfeet and Andrew Sullivan share several characteristics. Both are about the gay marriage. Both have an aversion to women, especially conservative women’s, naughty bits. Both seem to worry that the women might touch the boys someday.
Sullivan actually manages to couch his criticism in halfway honest and even handed prose. On the other hand happyfeet is reduced to calling them “whores” and “coochies.”
Have Blue (854a6e) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:50 amI think it’s more like how when random nobodies what go on reality tv shows emerge oft times as somebodies. Palin and Obama are both charismatic razzledy dazzledy nobodies what were presented with opportunities and decided to go the fake it til they make it route.
And they’ve shown that it’s easier than anyone had thought possible.
And this is not a healthy development for our politics.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:54 amHave Blue – you forgot that one has taken up residence in Palin’s uterus.
JD (109425) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:55 amOn the contrary, gratitude, loyalty, and honour are fundamental principles. It’s good that she’s got them. And it’s not as if Hayworth was so wonderful.
Milhouse (9ef3cc) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:56 amelevating personaly loyalties over and above what you know is best for our little country is the very quintessence of unprincipled Mr. Milhouse
She knows damn well that the cowardly Mr. McCain would deny our little country the resources of ANWR. That he’s a cap n trade whore with delusions of grandeur. That he’s a Republican Main Street Partnership RINO.
These are her principles? Sugartits wouldn’t know a principle if it crawled up in her uterus and evicted Andy Sullivan.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:00 am*personal* loyalties I mean
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:04 amDustin
as usual you are making things up.
As usual you are ignoring the mess she made in her short term in alaska
As usual you are projecting Perry who embodies reagans law of not criticising other republicans and are as usual stretching another patently false narrative to deflect your candidates very public record of lying about her very public record.
If my favorite governor decides to run, then its a huge win for America and the world. If Palin decides to run, the last 4 years may actually be looked upon fondly as there isnt much daylight between the liberal governor of alaska who believes in taxing rich companies and giving their cash away to the unworthy and to foreigners and our President who believes in taxing the rich and giving the money to the unworthy and giving money away to foreigners.
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:06 amI think Happyfeet has a point. It’s true… Palin probably had some kind of political obligation to Mccain. And yet, that obligation is less than the fact that Mccain is … Mccain.
Sure, I didn’t like Hayworth either, but Palin going out of her way to support Mccain is not well justified by the competitor. In fact, this flies in the face of her O’Donnell endorsement.
She owns the Mccain endorsement, for all its flaws. Those who don’t like Mccain should hold this against her. I think there are bigger issues, and frankly, Palin’s made a lot of much better endorsements to consider in all fairness.
I wonder if supporting Palin is also partly an act of defiance. The MSM wants her written off, the democrats and squishy GOP seem to really hate her sometimes… so her supporters double down to show they actually reject Palin’s detractors. I think it’s more an act of defiance to the narrative than anything else.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:10 amEric shut your mouth you lying piece of Scuzzyfava worship.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:11 am“Wny are these stupid Brits playing ‘My Country Tis of Thee’ while I’m trying to remember my toast? I have a good mind to take my iPod back.”
Dave (in MA) (037445) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:12 am<blockquoteDustin
as usual you are making things up.
Yeah, that’s what you said last time when you insisted I was a moby who wouldn’t support Rick Perry.
For some reason, you react to good criticism by calling me a liar, and you lie yourself in your effort to paint me as one.
I think this is pathetic. Why is Palin worth so much grief on your part? Whatever that is, I think it makes Palin look pretty good.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:12 amHe called palin racist without ponying up proof.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:13 amDo you think it also might apply in this edited form as well, to other folks that recently dropped out (but who may get back in if tapped later)? Is living the “family values” talk not a principle as well? Does it not involve personal loyalty?
Not arguing, just sayin’.
It’s okay to simply have a visceral dislike for Palin happyfeet; just like some folks have a visceral reaction to Romney, for instance.
As the kids say, it’s all good…
Bob Reed (5f2db5) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:14 amAnd Dohbiden is right. EPWJ went out of his way to lie and shill for a “Working Families Party” supporter who earned their endorsement.
In other words, EPWJ backs socialists. Really. He swore up and down she was the true conservative, despite her hard left voting record, even AFTER she dropped out, and endorsed the democrat!
Why would we think EPWJ is the gatekeeper to who is and is not really conservative? He said a socialist who loved entitlements and spending and taxing was conservative, and he now says a right leaning governor isn’t one?
I think he’s got some other weird agenda here. It may just be that he takes politics more seriously than sanity.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:16 amThe reason Leftists hate Sarah Palin is that she’s a strong, intelligent, principled, and patriotic young woman who won’t be silenced by the avalanche of lies and deceptions heaped on her by MSM’s professional character assassins and Democrat Party demagogues.
They can’t frighten her, they can’t buy her, and they can’t beat her.
ropelight (8a1e28) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:16 amMr. Daniels will have to stand before God someday – perhaps as soon as October – and explain why he forsook his little country in her time of gravest need. And as for Mrs. Daniels? Would NOT want to be her on that grim grim day.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:17 amThat’s me. Though eventually people made it clear to me that I am just not fair to Romney. I can’t escape that the evidence just can’t change my conclusions about him. So I stopped offering my opinion on him, because it’s just not reasonable. Even though I know I’m right!
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:18 amDustin
Eh, It’s hard to take someone seriously that has expended as much time as you being disengeniuous about Palin’s record and trying to measure her greatness by her critics rather than her actions.
So why did she raise taxes on the Oil companies?
So why did she grant 1200 dollars to each alaskan because of her excessive taxation?
Why did she need 100% democratic support in Alaska to get her tax and spend intitiatives passed?
You ignore all this and give volumes of un subtantiated opinions wihout any grounds in facts
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:19 amAlso Romney is a flagrant flitterpansy with a chance of defeating Obama what is approximately zilch. He’s Meg Whitman with better hair.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:20 amLOL.
But to be fair, it’s MUCH better hair. I could spend ten hours in the bathroom and never come out looking like that. I just put a hat on instead.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:21 amDustin – epwj telling lies about DRJ should have been case closed on his ability to discuss this honestly.
JD (85b089) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:22 amAgain Dustin is ignoring the facts and further making up stuff, trying to gin up outrage to drown out the fact that palins record and rhectoric are not coming close to matching…
Thats all sadlt dustin seems to haveleft, look, here and now, did Palin raise taxes with democrat support
yes or no?
Dustin, just a simple question – Did Palin sign a democrat taxing and spending bill that she urged democrats to pass in alaska?
Simple question
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:23 amYou said something similar about Daniels putting his family before his country. And in my opinion it shows something ugly about your thinking. If a person is not loyal to his own, what good is he? If a person has no honour, and is willing to sacrifice those to whom he owes the most, those who depend on him, those who have been good to him, then how can he be trusted with the presidency? If he thinks little of his duty to the “little” people, then his big ambitions are to be feared.
When God saw how much Moses cared for each lamb in his flock, He knew that He could trust him with the care of His people. Had he let the runaway lamb go, and, keeping his eye on the “big picture”, not thought it worth his while to track it down and carry it back to the flock, then he would have been found unworthy and would have remained no more than a mediocre shepherd.
Milhouse (9ef3cc) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:23 amI imagine it is, for you. After all, you don’t really care what the facts are. Anything you disagree with is a lie, even if it’s backed up 100 times by 100 good people with documentation and careful explanation. Anyone who differs with you is a liar. And those people suddenly earn EPWJ lying about them. I’ve seen that every time I’ve difference with you. You instantly start dowdifying my quotes like a little sissy.
Or JD… all of a sudden JD wants to ruin Patterico’s life if he differs with you on some point. It’s just hysterical and bad faith.
Continue not taking me seriously. Given some of the people you DO take seriously, I am honored.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:23 amJD
DRJ lies? You must mean her repeating her statement that major oil companies bribed legislators in Alaska for leases
You mean that whopper?
She repeated it more than once.
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:24 amNo. Link the bill and show me that Republicans didn’t support it, and that it’s nothing but taxing and spending so egregiously it cannot be described as something a little more honest, like fair government.
I bet you can’t, because you’re lying.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:25 amThey did!
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:25 amJD
Did Palin urge democrats to support her taxation and spending bill that was opposed my a majority of republicans to raise taxes and spending to record heights in alaksa?
yes or no?
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:26 amWhy am I feeding this troll? Everyone else is talking about more interesting things, and EPWJ takes over the 50th thread with the same lies that he’ll never argue fairly.
It’s so stupid.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:26 amdustin
got a case? conviction, indictment?
Oh thats right Sarah said so…..
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:26 amMr. Daniels knows in his heart Mr. Milhouse that our little country is going over the falls to dash itself to bits on the rocks below. To Mr. Daniels I say shame. Your moment came and you failed to seize it and the America left to your daughters and their children will be as much of your own making as if you had stepped up and done your duty.
It’s very very tragic.
Someone should write a play.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:27 amEPWJ,
Sarah said so? Link?
You said Scozzafava was conservative, even though she is a socialist. A working families party supporter. Endorsed for her insistence on more entitlements three exponents above Palin’s spending level!
And yet for Palin, all of a sudden, any taxation, even royalties for the citizen’s property, and any spending, even infrastructure, is your proof someone isn’t conservative!
You’re a liar and a troll, EPWJ. No one should take you seriously, because your standards for who is conservative are either hard left, to the left of Jimmy Carter, and hard right, to the right of Ronald Reagan, depending on your own insincere preordained conclusions.
You ignored all my points, and then demand I answer your cherry picked dishonest ones. You are not worth having a conversation with.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:29 amDoubling down on your own asshattery is never a good idea, epwj. Nor is lying, though you seem to be quite comfortable with that. You and nishi/wheelerz should get a room, and count some jooooooooos and christians.
JD (29e1cd) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:31 amAnd there you go again. Duty. I think you don’t know what that means. A man’s first duty is to God and to his own family. To his wife and children. If he abandons them for the sake of some more abstract entity such as his “country”, then he is worth nothing. “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”
Milhouse (9ef3cc) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:32 amEPWJ – If you drill for oil on land that I own you will pay me. And you will pay me exactly what I say you will pay me. And I will do with that money what I decide to do with it. That money you pay me by the way – that is a royalty not a tax.
Palin -as a representative, duly elected, of the owners of the land in question – performed the job she was elected by the people of Alaska to do.
While she was doing that job she had 90% approval ratings. (The fact that her rating declined after she resigned does not indicate that the people of Alaska disapproved of the job she was doing. In fact just the opposite.)
And the fact that too much of the Alaskan Republican party establishment were (and are) in the paid off pockets of corrupt oil producers is not a point in favor of your argument.
Have Blue (854a6e) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:33 amWhat if he calculated that our country won’t elect him? He knows that hundreds of millions will be spent on the lowest form of attack ads, and he probably knows his loved ones can’t withstand that. Everyone is imperfect, but some people don’t hide it well enough to be politically viable on the national stage.
If Daniels has a reasonable suspicion he can’t win against Obama anyway, perhaps he wants his supporters to find someone else who can.
You’re right… the terms with which Daniels has described our nation’s spending make it clear that one should be willing to sacrifice much to save the country. But only to save it… not to just hopelessly lose, trying to save it.
After all, you aren’t running for president. I’m not running for president.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:33 amVery well said, Have Blue.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:34 amAnd that is precisely what I am saying Mr. Milhouse. He does his wife and children no favours by consigning the fate of not just our little country to a craven gaggle of flitterninnies and whores – but theirs as well.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:35 amDo you have proof opponents of islamic terrorism are racist?
Oh that’s right Dhimmi Sludgeyfatwa says so.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:39 amI think when people go to prison after a fair trial, it’s no longer “sarah said so?”. It’s just fact.
Corruption is a big problem in Alaska. Sarah Palin rose because of that, and it’s a big point in her favor. EPWJ brings up Sarah Palin’s greatest hits, and thinks he’s clever enough to spin that into a reason not to love her.
It’s like birthers… if I were to go to huffpo and say Obama was born in Kenya, and anyone who argues against me is just believing otherwise ‘because Obama said so’, I would only be bolstering Obama’s support because of the dumbness and dishonesty of my arguments.
I’d also be showing evidence that something is not working correctly in my brain. Scozzafava’s fanboys do not get to insist that a conservative Republican isn’t pure enough. It says a lot about someone if their basis for this is whether or not they continued a pattern of corruption with the industry that person personally profits from.
In other words, I’m saying EPWJ is a bit of a traitor to this country. When oil companies make a lot of money, that usually means my family makes a bit more money too. I’m east texan, and that’s just my roots. But there are more important things than my personal interest, and Palin wasn’t elected to keep oil companies from paying their fair share. That’s what Murkowski was elected for.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:39 amAnd if he destroys his family in order to save the country, what has he gained? What good would a saved country do them, if they’ve been too damaged in the process of getting it?
Milhouse (9ef3cc) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:42 amare you from the red dirt east texas or the coast or where? I love east texas it’s very very unique and bam next thing you know you’re in Hot Springs!
Homesick now.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:43 amit’s downright shakespearean, no?
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:47 amHappyfeet, red dirt, so deep east that I’m practically in Shreveport.
And yeah, it’s unique.
I used to mock the hell out of that part of the world, but now I genuinely miss it.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:50 amDustin
In the House in 2007 16 Democrats and 5 Republicans voted in the key provisions of the PPT
Palins staff also ignored Republicans and worked with Democrat lawmakers in crafting the tax
Here is a good analysis
http://www.dedcpa.com/pdfs/DED%20to%20Commonwealth%20North%20November%2023%202010%20reduced%20.pdf
Also look at the slide – Murkowski’s progressive tax in 2006 was very unpopular, Palin actually was elected on criticising franks spending and his over taxing the oil companies
Palin lied – its chronicled in this presentation
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:53 amDustin and JD
You have made the comments that I made up the tax rate
In Tulsa, the world wide respected Oil and Gas Journal has a good breakdown
http://www.ogfj.com/index/article-display/3934072006/articles/oil-gas-financial-journal/volume-7/issue-9/features-/alaska_s-oil_and_gas.html
I will wait for your apologies…
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:02 am/spit
Screw you and any apologies. You make up lies, attribute them to someone, and then demand an apology? What does it take for you to feel shame? We have been down this path 861235825221552452 times with you. You intentionally conflate royalties with taxes. You intentionally conflate tax rates and marginal tax rates. In short, you are a lying dishonest fabulist begging for your next facial from Big Oil.
JD (306f5d) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:10 amI want to apologize to everyone not named epwj for my choice of language. I have rough edges.
JD (b98cae) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:30 amFrankly, I’d like to apologize for being too nice to EPWJ. I have soft edges. Blame my wife’s cooking.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:33 amAces Passed Nov 16, 2007
In the Senate and House there were 40 house Members and 20 Senators
Breakdown was
House
23R 17D
Senate
11R 9D
total
34R 26D
Voted to Pass Aces
25D
17R (2 abstained or were absent)
Against
12R 1D (really a republican)
http://www.legis.state.ak.us/basis/get_jrn_page.asp?session=25&bill=HB2001&jrn=1550&hse=S
25 out of 26 Dem legislators voted for aces or 97%
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:50 am17 out of 34 republicans voted for Aces – of those who voted all have voted to repeal it that are left in the house 18 months later in March 2011
JD
I’m waiting for a detailed written apology
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:52 amAnd the state is solvent because of it, then they all sold out to Obama, sought to bankrupt her, because he is the One.
Now Hagiography is Remnick’s the Bridge who somehow managed to put a spin on gunfire and asbestos collect in Altgeld Gardens, that was one of the two neighborhoods, that rioted while he was over at the Olympics who along with Ayers, let 150 million dollars go missing, from the Chicago public schools, yet that is rarely addressed, so give 843 billion, what could go wrong, specially under Sheriff Joe’s careful stewardship.
ian cormac (72470d) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:57 amI suggest holding your breath while you wait.
JD (38b977) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:01 pmUm, what language is this in?
Milhouse (9ef3cc) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:09 pmMr. Remnick wrote a book about Obama’s ball-sucking proclivities going back many years
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:12 pm843 billion!
LOL
1504812 zillion!
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:13 pm1504812 gazillion quintillion infinity plus 2.56128 cubed is how much Sarah Palin Raised TAXES !!!
JD (b98cae) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:19 pmOne dollar for every Iranian Jew.
It’s all so clear to me now.
Ron Paul.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:20 pmhappy, keep it clean, okay?
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:20 pmThe moon minus 4 is more honest than epwj.
JD (306f5d) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:21 pmTo sum it, Obama let his district, decay into a landscape right out of Robocop, after having fixed
ian cormac (72470d) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:21 pmthe vote, to get it, his only real challenge was
against a better community organizer, in former
Black Panther Bobby Rush, and then there’s what
happened to Jack Ryan, who considering his wife
Jeri, is a bit of a tool, but they exed him clear
out of the picture,
yes yes I will I promise
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:27 pmdustin and JD
So, can you explain the Oil and Gas Journal analysis of the 93% tax rate that Palin imposed?
And to impose it – why did she campaign and was relected in the primary over Murkowski’s PPT tax?
Why did Palin campaign on lowering oil taxes in 2005/6 and then raise them in 2007 even more than the guy she voted out?
Why did she need almost 100% support from the Democrats to pass this?
why did over 50% of her party oppose it intially and now almost 95% oppose it in the next legislative session?
Why are people even thinking that this woman is even remotely conservative?
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:27 pmRun around with the goalposts screaming bibble babble Version 635156863.2
JD (b98cae) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:36 pmSo can you ignore the 100 times your exact same point was debunked as not really a tax increase or contrary to conservatism, but rather a reversal of corruption, and Palin looking out for the rights of Alaskans rather than oil companies who want to get resources for less than they are worth?
I’ve already answered this point, and you didn’t reply. You ignored me, and repeated your lie. Then, JD answered. Then, Ian/narciso. Then, DRJ. Hell, I’m not even named half a dozen others.
You have had your lie explained very clearly, and you just ignore it, and repeat the lie, and then if no one replies every single time, you claim you’ve won.
You are a liar to claim I haven’t already answered this point, or that you don’t know that I can, since I’ve answered it many times.
How pathetic.
How sad that you supported a socialist “Working Families Party” backer of a massive entitlement, three exponents greater in damage than Palin’s infrastructure spending, and claim your opposition to Palin is that she’s not conservative enough. You are obviously lying. You will now ignore what I say and repeat the same point, over and over again.
Honestly, you’ve driven off a lot of great people. DRJ said she was done with this blog (though I suspect she’ll be back).
You’re not worth the trouble, clearly.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:39 pmI’m not one to demand anyone be banned. I’m just saying EPWJ causes damage.
I do recall him insisting I stop commenting. What a prick. He can’t handle a real debate. He’ll say ‘answer this!’ and if you do, he’ll ignore you and just say ‘answer this!’ repeating the same point you answered already.
He’s no conservative. That’s OK… but he’s such a liar to claim this is his problem with Palin. He just wishes he got more money from Alaskan citizens, and she got in the way. EPWJ is the kind of republican you find with his hand in the cookie jar. Actually, I’m pretty sure he’s a democrat.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:43 pmHe does resemble a certain Georgian union rep, transplanted to Alaska, whose real old boy GOP, who repeats these same attacks on her from the crony
ian cormac (72470d) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:46 pmright, mostly at places like Red State.
The crony right.
That’s a great way to describe his POV on this, Ian.
Seriously, EPWJ supported a much more egregious candidate, Scozzafava, on the very issues he’s citing on Palin.
Only, Scozzafava was a crony Republican, and Palin clearly isn’t. That is the only good explanation, other than simple hatred.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:47 pmI am looking around the Gov of Texas website for their Doha office address.
JD (318f81) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:50 pmIt’s on the secret Ron Paul section, next to the Joos of Tehran census report, and the ‘explosions at new refineries (that aren’t new if I say so) are unpossible’ report.
BTW, I don’t care about EPWJ’s criticisms of Palin. It’s how damn rude he’s been about it, and how damn dishonest he’s been about it. He’s shown a stubborn refusal to have an actual debate on the merits of his points. Every time someone bothers to take him seriously, he becomes an utter dick about it.
And he doesn’t act that way if he believes what he’s saying. He acts that way when he knows he’s lying. I’ve been watching his behavior for a long time, and it’s clear.
He wants to intimidate people away from responding to him, so he can just spam all Palin threads as we ignore him.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:55 pmI’d put Obama right up there with Bachman, except he’s more evilly inadequate.
SarahW (af7312) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:58 pmThis is very stale posting but what is up with that siganture. It’s almost worse than the date thing.
SarahW (af7312) — 5/25/2011 @ 12:59 pmDustin
I have noticed a tendancy on blogs when links from certified professionals in the field of study on which the issue is being debated – ruin an unsupported emotion driven ideological stance – like Palin was looking out for the “people”
So again
why did 97% of the liberals vote for her landmark tax increases and now 100% of the republicans are on record as against it?
Why?
The only damage I did was to link that sarah Palin’s actions are far different than her campaign promises and stances in the gubernatorial race in 2005.6 and her paid for speeches and book deals
eh, so its documented..
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 1:04 pmYou have succeeded in documenting your asshattery for the whole world to see. That is about all.
JD (318f81) — 5/25/2011 @ 1:07 pmSee what I mean? I explain what he asked, and he replies ‘but my link was experts, you aren’t, so I win!’
So why did EPWJ draw out my response? Why did he demand it? He rejected it because he claims I’m not as elite as his experts, which obviously means he never wanted my opinion in the first place.
Could I get a better proof that EPWJ is arguing in bad faith and is a liar? He just wants to spam the threads, and anyone who takes him seriously will get a personal and nasty response, no matter if their politeness is at the stratospheric DRJ level.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 1:21 pmWhen a child continues to ask why in spite of having been answered repeatedly, the only remaining option is “Because I said so.”
Is there any doubt epwj is a child?
Makewi (0864f9) — 5/25/2011 @ 1:35 pmin spite of = despite
Makewi (0864f9) — 5/25/2011 @ 1:36 pmDustin, I really think that the *weird* Palin h8rs (I don’t mean people who disagree with policies) have some kind of weird fixation on her. They are so…odd…about it.
It’s that poster above the bunk thing, I suspect.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 1:52 pmi heart sarah palin!
wheeler's cat (c3bd99) — 5/25/2011 @ 1:56 pmshe is hilarious.
Here’s another 500 funnie names for her movie, and there are multiple twitterstreams.
Hey, I just caught this one:
https://patterico.com/2011/05/24/i-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-hear-anything-more-about-how-stupid-sarah-palin-or-michelle-bachmann-or-any-other-republican-woman-is/comment-page-9/#comment-795724
Eric? Oh, Eric? Please, please, please say that DRJ lied just one more time. Be sure to copy Patterico on it.
Again, be sure to copy Patterico on it.
Speaking of demanding apologies. And I recommend you do apologize to her, and to the rest of the people commenting.
You are literally worth less than what accumulates under DRJ’s shoes when she is out cleaning stables.
I compare your posts, and DRJ’s. I invite everyone to do so. And remember what Stashiu3 had to say.
Say. That’s another one, Eric. Why don’t you try to pick a fight with Stash, too?
After getting your hair cut at the Four Seasons.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 1:58 pmThere’s a difference between not knowing something at a given moment, and not knowing something because you never knew it to begin with.
Palin’s errors are the second type. But even Einstein made errors of the first type.
Kman (5576bf) — 5/25/2011 @ 1:59 pmMr. Feet? Your sister is here.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 1:59 pmThe Iquitarod hah that’s funny – get it? cause of how she’s so quitty! Even Mr. Jester will have to admit that’s pretty darn clever.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:02 pmUm. There is a difference between wit and humor, as I suspect you know and worry about.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:04 pmIn response to #46, does happyfeet even know where SNL got the ‘see Russia from my house’ reference? Does he/she know that Palin was responding to a question that all governers running for President get asked: how can you be prepared for national security and foreign policy matters when you’ve only been a governer? In response Palin pointed out that the Governer of Alaska has unique responsiblities relative to the other states due to the proximity of Alaska to Russia (I’m not going to dig out the specifics but essentially the Governer sits it on national security briefings that the Governer of Arkansas, or Texas and Florida for that matter, wouldn’t).
There’s nothing wrong with that answer and plenty right. In the same vein, I’m going to re-write that comment as ‘I can’t quit, Sarah Palin, I can’t get her out of my mind’. It’s pretty much the same logic.
East Bay Jay (2fd7f7) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:05 pmwith Sarah Palin in charge America will have the best foreign policy cause of due to the proximity of Alaska to Russia
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:12 pmSimon
DRJ is passionately defending Palin, in my opinion Palin is not 1/2 the person DRJ is and in Jan DRJ made a statement that I asked for any proof.
None was given
She repeated it – now, we can surmise 2 things
She didnt take time to google
or she knows its patently not true
I didnt ask her to make the statement that accused me of crimes, my wife, my father, my great uncle, my grandfather, my associates, my companies and my life long friends – no one has bought bribed alaskan legislators for oi leases
no one – nada
It ould be just about the biggest news the left would be screaming like a stuck pink at a GWB mission accomplished rally
I just asked her for any proof
and we all know how that turned out
DRJ will be back, I wish her well, I understand why she is saying what she is saying and who knows maybe she even tries to believe it
bu comeone anyone where are the Conoco executives that have been investigated for paying cash for oil leases, Exxon, BP – come on – dont you think anyone would have heard it by now?
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:15 pmOuch! Good comeback. And you say SP is dumb, do you?
East Bay Jay (2fd7f7) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:18 pmSo, Eric, will you forward that to Patterico, or should I? And Jay is correct: you should never, ever call someone unintelligent after that post.
I didn’t think you would step in it quite that badly. Amazing.
Again, I would apologize for your bizarre intimation that she insulted you. Seriously.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:22 pmthat was not a comeback I was trying to get wif the program Mr. Jay
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:22 pmBut this on going continous story about “big oil” BUYING a legislature because they were ALREADY drilling and ALREADY owned the leases?
That these proffered executives wih their millions in salary are going to risk and lose everything? To bribe a legislature for leases that ARE NOT EVEN UP FOR LEASE?
geez, you guys will believe anything
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:31 pmSimon
Pat already said his piece like I said I wish she hadn said it and I wish she hadnt said that 6 wells equals 721 wells in Texas
I dont make these statements, I didnt ask Sarah Palin to work with house democrats to pass a larger tax than frankie
what can I say?
When I link real reports – real analysis and someone links an op-ed by a liberal democrat screed as a 100% rebuttal of the finest financial and investment minds in the world – I can’t top that I guess
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:34 pmI didnt ask her to make the statement that accused me of crimes, my wife, my father, my great uncle, my grandfather, my associates, my companies and my life long friends – no one has bought bribed alaskan legislators for oi leases
Bald face effin lie.
JD (318f81) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:50 pmAnd your hero Dede Scozzafatso will work with dems on everything including raising taxes so stop the selective outrage please.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:50 pmAww, EPWJ wishes DRJ hadn’t said it!
What a jackass summary.
He likes that though. He’ll lie to your face about what you said, ignore your argument rebutting his points, and then say he’s patiently waiting for you to reply to his points.
He knows he’s lying.
A while back he quoted me like this, to show I won’t support Rick Perry for governor:
Here’s the full quote:
He did this because I challenged him on something dumb he was saying. He just scoured the internet for a quote where I criticized a Republican to accuse me of being a Moby democrat. He was unable to find anything, so he lied about what I said, while projecting the accusation of dishonesty.
That’s the character I’ve come to expect from EPWJ. He spent much of this thread demanding I respond to his points, even though I have many times before to EPWJ stubbornly ignoring them. Once I took the bait again, and again explained why I disagree with his dishonest characterization, he said that I wasn’t an elite expert like his link of corrupt shills, and my opinion doesn’t matter. He wants to be so obnoxious to anyone who answers his never ending ‘why aren’t you responding?’ crap so that no one responds. That’s the easiest way for him to lie.
He’ll do that a lot. I can’t count how many links have proven that Alaska has a corruption problem, but EPWJ will go so far as to demand people report to the FBI with this revelation there is some.
DRJ tore him apart (without being rude) when EPWJ lied about that border shooting incident. He claimed he saw the video and we hadn’t, and then described the video with points that we later learned were impossible.
That’s EPWJ. I think his main trait is that he doubles down, over and over, until he’s saying something ridiculous he can only defend by acting like a punk.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:50 pmForgot Dede Scozzafatso is no longer an assemblywoman.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:51 pmEPWJ is a shill for the establishment e probably hates Perry and is pretending to like him.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:52 pmShow of hands … Other than epwj, who here has campaigned for and spread propaganda for a socialist candidate of the WFP?
JD (318f81) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:55 pmsocialism is same as stealing
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 2:58 pmI wouldn’t bet against you.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 3:01 pmhe*
Anyway a Jew got attacked by someone who is probably another Jew.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 3:02 pmIronically Rick Perry opposed the arizona immigration law.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 3:24 pmThere’s a perfectly logical reason why Obama was talking during the playing of “God Save The Queen.” He thought they were playing “My Country ‘Tis of Thee.” He was well-prepared by the protocol crew and was ready to clam up once the band played “God Save The Queen.”
He also wanted to know who was playing bass for the reunited Sex Pistols after the tragic death of Sid Vicious.
L.N. Smithee (7587f8) — 5/25/2011 @ 3:31 pmThese kinds of minor and unimportant gaffes were proof positive that George W. Bush was of a moron IQ and unfit to public office. But with Obama, we see the same Democratic trolls claim that the gaffes are in fact … SQUIRREL! … meaningless.
It merely reinforces the already obvious fact that the attacks on George W. Bush were fundamentally dishonest.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/25/2011 @ 3:34 pmonce the old biddy kicks it I guess that’s pretty much the end of that, no?
Will her vapid douche of a son get to pick a new theme song?
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/25/2011 @ 3:38 pmWell, it could be 2008 in one of the 58 states of the United States that Obama claimed to have campaigned in.
We all know that if a republican had done this, it would be front page news for months on end and the subject of vicious “comedy” skits for years to come.
It should also be noted that May has been the cruellest month for Obama. He started out on May 10, 2011 (or is that 2008), in a speech on the Arab Spring, saying that the Arab Spring represents a “Teutonic shift” in the Middle East.
eaglewingz08 (74f660) — 5/25/2011 @ 4:08 pmNow, not being an Anglo Saxon, I’m not sure whether Obama considered a “Teutonic shift” a good thing or bad thing. If it were WWII, one might consider it a very bad thing. But bygones are bygones. And Obama is so supersmart that he couldn’t possibly have misspoken the word “Teutonic” when he actually wanted to say “Tectonic”. After all, if republicans are given no good faith basis for verbal gaffes, how could we in good measure accord any democrat such good faith excuse?
Eric #223: please post the link where Patterico (why do you keep calling him “Pat,” like he is your friend, incidentally?) agreed with you that DRJ insulted your family. That is what you are saying, isn’t it? And if not, please be clear on what Patterico did say about your disagreement with DRJ, with a linked quote, please. This is because you have a history of dishonesty when quoting others.
I think everyone should insist on Eric doing so. And not let him change the subject.
I dislike liars.
I realize you will be too busy getting your hair cut at the Four Seasons (that was DCSCA-ish in its bizarreness), but do post that before you do anything else. Again, since you claim in #224 that Patterico agreed with you about your claims regarding DRJ.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 4:50 pmI got my dry cleaning done at the Dragon Lodge Inn in 1999, so there.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 4:54 pmDragon Hill Lodge, rather. I can’t really remember. They served the best enchiladas I’ve ever had, btw. And I’m Texan.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 4:55 pmEric you erudite dumbkopf where did Patterico agree with you on anything?
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 5:05 pmI think that this part of the fellow’s penchant for misrepresenting the words of others. And where DRJ is concerned, enough is enough.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 5:13 pmEric, I think you owe us the quote Simon is asking for. I also know you won’t provide it.
After all, your shtick is to repeatedly demand people answer you… you know this is some kind of ego display, so you will be unable to humble yourself to actually answer someone’s request.
BTW, they were spinach and chicken enchiladas. They were so good. I also parked in a Four Seasons parking lot once. Ate at Shoreline Grill… best duck I’ve ever had. I have to say, this Four Seasons nonsense is really taking me back to pleasant memories!
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 5:20 pmDustin, I once ate at Wolfgang Puck’s restaurant in Malibu, Granita. It was OK I guess.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/25/2011 @ 5:26 pmDustin, he is too busy getting his hair cut at the Four Seasons.
Seriously, I am tired of his misrepresenting what others are saying. And the DCSCA style, um, storytelling.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 5:29 pmEven the word Granita sounds delicious. I wish they hadn’t renamed that product ‘Frapacinno’, which sounds vain.
Only restaurant I recall from Cali is In-N-Out. Great, but grease tastes good, which is slightly cheating.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 5:33 pmI swear someone could start a new blog called “Palin” and never post anything but the word “Palin” and it would be the most popular blog in the world.
Ag80 (1bc637) — 5/25/2011 @ 5:51 pmNow, Ag80, if it was called “A BLOG FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT EVERYONE TO HATE PALIN” and then it locked your computer down forever…well, then you would be talking. Because we get some nutty deluxe people on the topic.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:04 pmThat’s EPWJ. I think his main trait is that he doubles down, over and over, until he’s saying something ridiculous he can only defend by acting like a punk.
Comment by Dustin — 5/25/2011 @ 2:50 pm
All the khat has given him severe short-term memory loss.
AD-RtR/OS! (e46093) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:08 pmThere’s a fine selection of blogs, if that is your poison, some are local, some are european, I’m not going to point you to any of them, but you can find
ian cormac (72470d) — 5/25/2011 @ 6:18 pmthem, just the same, I suspect pikachu, and a few
others, have already found them,
nope I have no idea which blogs you mean I only for reals just recently came to think Palin was so dumb as to run for president I for reals thought she had her head on straighter than that – but it’s just the presidency I guess – any old skeezy unremarkable douche can be president anymore
It’s America!
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:34 pmYou are drifting dangerously into Joe McGuiness/
ian cormac (72470d) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:37 pmAndrew Sullivan territory, and there is no life guard, to bring you back,
c’mon in Mr. cormac the water’s fine
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:38 pmit was fun to see nishi today huh
seems like it been forever
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/25/2011 @ 7:41 pmSee what I mean, folks?
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/25/2011 @ 8:06 pmO/T…Tornados
A little Confucian Philosophy, but, with all of these natural disasters, is the Emperor losing the Mandate of Heaven?
AD-RtR/OS! (e46093) — 5/25/2011 @ 9:04 pm_________________________________________
He was well-prepared by the protocol crew and was ready to clam up once the band played “God Save The Queen.
I’d like to know if it was sheer incompetence, hubris or slackness that resulted in such an embarrassing moment? Or all three, meaning a combination of White House staffers who treated etiquette the way that do-your-own-thang, hipster-hippy slobs do, while their boss, Obama, was both too egotistical and lazy to care about the finer details of diplomacy and formal state functions.
That would be somewhat different from when he bowed before the King of Saudi Arabia and the Emperor of Japan, which I’m pretty sure he did intentionally, for purely philosophical reasons. Namely, as a representative of the US, he was expressing blame-America-First guilt for imperialism, racism, sexism, capitalism, Westernism, Christianity, etc.
Mark (411533) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:01 pm“DRJ is passionately defending Palin, in my opinion Palin is not 1/2 the person DRJ is and in Jan DRJ made a statement that I asked for any proof.
None was given”
EricPW – Are you referring to when you beclowned yourself by not knowing anything about the Veco corruption scandal? You are still calling it a construction company rather than an oil field services company. Are you pretending they were not attempting to bribe Alaskan legislators to lower severance taxes? Why not talk about all the Republican legislators indicted as a result of the scheme? Weren’t a bunch of them members of something they called the “Corrupt Bastards Club?” You are weapons grade pathetic bringing this up again.
Votes for ACES – 17 Republicans for and 12 against according to your comment #183. That comes out to 59% of Republican legislators bothering to vote supported Palin’s plan, so screw your no Republican support. Of those voting against, how many were subsequently indicted? What was the total?
Do you know the difference between an effective tax rate and a marginal tax rate?
What is your theory on why Alaskan legislators are attempting to redo ACES? Please explain.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:05 pmCharlie Crist and his backers are greedy.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:09 pmIt must be a lot easily winning a debate against DRJ in this thread, since, after all, she doesn’t appear to be participating in this thread.
In the thread she was in, she soberly offered a few links and some clear summaries. Daleyrocks appears to remember.
But I’d just rather point out EPWJ’s complete lack of honesty than try to debate him on the facts. He will just ignore your points, anyway, repeating the conclusion that was just proven wrong for the 1500th time.
I don’t even really like Palin that much, until she’s attacked by yet another moron. Nothing would please me more than a successful Palin presidency after I read a thread like this. EPWJ is a master of persuasion… just not in the way he means to be.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:11 pmNow to be on topic at least palin knows there are 50 states.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:14 pmDustin – EricPW doesn’t like to talk to me about Palin anymore because I have pantsed him so many times on his claims. I think I have left permanent mushroom bruises on his face.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:24 pmdaley:
AD-RtR/OS! (e46093) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:27 pmVECO is to construction as Halliburton is to attache cases.
Wheeler’s cat and EPWJ are all-too typical.
happyfeet’s #164 says all that you ever need to know about him.
Icy Texan (3f01f5) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:52 pmThe left call Palin a racist and conservatives terrorists who kill African Americans why do they lie?
DohBiden (15aa57) — 5/25/2011 @ 10:53 pmDustin
I dont need to address the facts, they have all been laid out and confirmed by… Gov Palin
Look, dude – she’s proud she raised taxes with the help of 97% of the Alaska democrat delegations – otherwise – issue would have failed.
And I cant help that the backlash is that the Republicans are overturning her moment of triumph
You can call me dishonest, call me names, but still the facts remain, they are not my facts, her facts, your facts, just the facts.
I didnt ask Palin to pass the most predatory taxes in the world
she did that all on her own with the help of 97% of the willing liberal tax and spending democrats of the great state of alaska
And can anyone find VECO on an DOE report as an oil producer?
Anyone?
Also a case where an big 6 oil executive bribed a legislator to be granted oil leases?
Until any of this happens, its just comments right?
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:02 pmEric’s level of “respect” for DRJ is completely . . . underwhelming.
Icy Texan (3f01f5) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:04 pm“And can anyone find VECO on an DOE report as an oil producer?”
EricPW – Is it listed as a construction company? Why was it trying to bribe legislators to pass lower severance taxes?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:26 pmIcy
DRJ is a nice person. I’ve not said otherwise, so are you and everyone here.
Its just that sometimes, things are accepted as facts because they fit a narrative.
However this “narrative” was originally created by a liberal local media in Alaska and has been stretched well beyond its tensile strength.
Fueled by a hyper opportunistic politician (which I grant you, are in good supply everywhere), this politician has painted herself into an ideological corner she hadn’t contemplated when McCains people called
But the money is good, but the facts still remain
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:28 pmEPWJ, I have proven that you are not honest. Debate’s over.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:29 pmDaley,
Veco has gas stations? Oil Leases?
Do you have a court case where a big 6 oil executive paid for leases with bribes like someone here has mentioned more that once and then the Palin plan prevented that by taking 93%?
Really?
Or are you in poesession of information that the best and brightest in the financial world seem to have missed?
Or does the state of Alaska have the wrong vote totals on November 16, 2007 where 25 out of 26 democrats (1 was a sell miller democrat – conservative really) voted for governor Palins predatory tax increase and astronomical hikes in spending and welfare.
Maybe all these respected and audited organizations are risking censure, prison to “frame” Palin
its possible…
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:34 pmAnd just to be clear, while I see the appeal in Palin (the people who hate her the most are creeps) I do not really want Palin to be the President. I get the impression she’s a clever populist. Sure, she governed ethically, but I just need a lot more than that. I need hard experience.
I’m left hoping that Perry (Whom I’m not really the biggest fan of either) jumps in, or that T Paw turns out to be what he’s claiming to be (sobriety and reform on all the sacred cows of spending).
I’m no Palin shill, that’s for sure.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:52 pm100% of the people who read this thread know that EPWJ is dishonest, and therefore they do not care what claims he’s making.
The debate is simply over.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/25/2011 @ 11:55 pmDustin
Look’s like Perry is going to run. If he does, it will be a huge win for the world, as well as America.
Perry can say no.
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/26/2011 @ 12:10 amDustin
Palin had a great chance to be great, she was riding a populist wave – mostly fabricated – but lets not split haris
Then she turned sharp left as Gov
And then turned sharp right as paid for conservative personality
She should have run in the last Senate race and then we could see who Palin really was.
But then again the senate is also a good place to make speeches but hide true intent as well
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/26/2011 @ 12:13 amLike literally zero people believe a single pixel of anything EPWJ types, if they have read this thread.
Correct me if I’m wrong, anybody.
I stopped posting that quote dowdification a long time ago, because Patterico asked. He wants to keep the peace, and I think EPWJ is pretty damn clever about pissing people off so much that by the time it’s noticed, he seems to be the victim of a pile on.
But integrity can’t be recovered that way. EPWJ doesn’t have any. I know I’m not the first or the best at demonstrating it, but I did so.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/26/2011 @ 12:21 am“Veco has gas stations? Oil Leases?
Do you have a court case where a big 6 oil executive paid for leases with bribes like someone here has mentioned more that once and then the Palin plan prevented that by taking 93%?”
EricPW – Show me where I made such claims.
Show how Veco is a construction company rather than an oil field services company. Show how it’s Chairman was not caught on a wiretap discussing trying to bribe legislators into lowering severance taxes. List how many Republican legislators were indicted/convicted as a result of the scandal. Then continue insisting there was no corruption in Alaskan politics. Go!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/26/2011 @ 12:28 amI am too tired to read all this, but it looks like EPWJ is continuing to maintain that DRJ has somehow been dishonest. Which is assuredly not true, and which has me considering Stashiu’s ban request, final decision to come when I am not exhausted and overworked. Maybe February 2012 or so.
Patterico (c5e915) — 5/26/2011 @ 12:32 amNah, too early.
Patterico (c5e915) — 5/26/2011 @ 12:33 amThis is a very interesting bit of Palin data.
It’s a snippet from the movie about Palin’s fight against Exxon. I think this bit is terrible and repeats a lot of memes I dislike (such as use it or lose it, and that’s why we won’t give you any more leases). Palin comes across as terribly populist and anti corporate. I’ll have to wait to see more, but this appears to be a clip intended to HELP the movie look good.
I’m sure if EPWJ really cared to, he could present a much more honest attack on Palin. Sure, she is no longer a liar monster with corruption problems who is taxing and spending the state to death. She’s just a lesser form of leader: a populist appealing largely to wallets, fighting off some corruption.
I’ll have to wait and see the full movie to know for sure.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/26/2011 @ 12:43 amPat,
I’m not the one making an issue about dishonesty – the person known as DRJ was.
All I asked her was for proof.
Others keep bringing it up, since stashiu put out the request
I only mention it after they brought it up more than once
Actually it doesnt matter what this person or that person said.
All there is are these pesky facts.
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/26/2011 @ 12:47 amPat
I’ll say it again, DRJ is a good person, she has bought into the false meme that oil companies – including me, my relatives, are all corrupt and bribe alaskan legislators for oil leases.
which isnt remotely true, has no basis in fact.
So there it is
Dustin
All I can do is point out the facts – a movie – even if it paints Palin in a poor light – I won’t use unfair material against Palin,
ust the fact that 25 out of 26 democrats passed her landmark tax and spending hikes in alaska
I’m sorry it happened, I’m sorry that people are offended by it – but there it is
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/26/2011 @ 1:03 am“I’m not the one making an issue about dishonesty – the person known as DRJ was.”
EricPW – Excellent point since you refuse to acknowledge your serial dishonesty about Sarah Palin, proven time and again on this blog.
You have yet to produce the comment you claim DRJ made about you and your family.
You have absolutely no reason to complain over your treatment given your consistent fabrications and consistent dishonesty about Sarah Palin.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/26/2011 @ 1:12 amAnd daley, you won’t get that link and quote from the Man with the Expensive Haircut.
Hold his feet to the fire. I don’t care that he makes up stuff repeatedly; it can be funny. But when he misrepresents what other people say in a nasty way, well…that’s different.
Simon Jester (c9ae28) — 5/26/2011 @ 3:47 amEPWJ is proof-positive of the old adage: You just can’t beat sense into some people, but you can sure have some fun trying!
Icy Texan (3f01f5) — 5/26/2011 @ 5:39 amAfter Exxon’s remarkable negligence, in Prince William Sound, the consequences of which she relates partially in Going Rogue, and some she doesn’t list
ian cormac (72470d) — 5/26/2011 @ 5:47 amlike the rise of VECO, the patience for the likes of Exxon, up there, was very limited. The fact that the Supreme Court, let them go with a speeding ticket, something as a municipal official, she was a party to the suit, which she had expressed herstrong dissent to, frames this picture.
It would be nice if epwj would at least make up new and interesting lies. Dede is the true conservative. Counting jooooooooos in Iran, and Christians in UAE. The IN GOP drafting you to run for higher office. Breitbart to be indicted. Those were at least funny. But this claiming DRJ is a nice and honorable person, she is, then using that as a shield to repeat your lies, baseless claims, and pure fantasy is tiresome. Your 5369853215556975324596225575522nd time bibble babbling about Palin and votes and proving you don’t know the difference between royalties and taxes, and marginal vs effective tax rates is Rainman Tourrettes. I wish there was some help I could offer you as I pity you. This weird fetish of your of trying to hide behind family members that were never brought into the discussion is weird too.
JD (b98cae) — 5/26/2011 @ 6:03 amIan, no doubt, there’s more to Palin’s side to this. I expect oil companies in Alaska to behave according to the corrupt Murkowski way, and for reformers to stand up against that as Palin did.
However… my gripe is more this populist tone and the general narratives and talking points I detected. That’s not the fairest way to handle a snippet, and I will watch the whole video whenever they come up with it.
Like I said, I think there’s something a Palin critic could find here. Not EPWJ, mind you, being on his lack of honesty, and how even if he tells the truth, no one can tell.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/26/2011 @ 6:05 amNo doubt, but considering that lease was granted in 1965, don’t you think 42 years is enough time to execute a lease, and 30 years since the last pipeline, was long enough to get started on the next one, of course foreclosing ANWR, and the Bering and Chuckchi, while Russia has no such qualms, as is China drilling off the Cuban coasts, is mindboggling,
ian cormac (72470d) — 5/26/2011 @ 6:13 amhttp://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/26/scotus.arizona.law/index.html?hpt=T2
ian cormac (72470d) — 5/26/2011 @ 8:05 amDustin
In my experience, oil companies drill leases, I cannot with ND’s speak on any tactical situations in alaska but all Oil companies everywhere are always concerned with replacing reserves and production – its a core issue.
Their must be a strong financial reason not to.
And it probably existed before the PPT (Murkowski) and then Palins ACES.
Just as a primer – stand lands are opened for exploration, companies shoot seismic surveys which esppecially in alaska were frightfully expensive and hard to process as the permafrost sent a wave of amplitudes that the HCI and migration programs of the 60’s amd 70’s had trouble filtering out.
Once a company thinks there is oil, they bid on a lease, the state geophysicists except the block price (yeah first you pay for the block some bids were in the 100’s of millions of dollars per hectare)
then you drill a small exploratory well, one just big enough that you can send get core samples to try and MAP to see how much oil and gas and how big the field actually is
Because of the sheer size of alaska the fields have to be big, relatively close to the surface, even under the ELF cheap tax to be fiscally viable.
adding a 93% tax just made Alaska the risk not worth the headache.
Even if they repeal the tax, the threat over the next 10/20 years that it will be renacted will temper the flames of exploration and investment in Alaska
Murkowski, you can blame because he fooled with the ELF tax and put an PPT tax in
I have no idea why Palin, who most of us in the industry fully expected to repeal Murkowski’s tax increase – went way down the wrong road.
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/26/2011 @ 8:46 amaccept the block price, not except
EricPWJohnson (bc267e) — 5/26/2011 @ 8:48 amYou have to give him credit. He just soldiers on, after having been shown to be the Massengill heir we knew him to be. Just bops right on to the next non-sequitur, as though none of his asshattery was exposed. Quite rich in irony.
JD (b98cae) — 5/26/2011 @ 9:08 amhectare sure is a lot of oils here wonder why the douchey president George Soros bought won’t let us drill none
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 5/26/2011 @ 9:09 am“Here is a good analysis”
EricPW – By somebody who helped design the Murkowski oil tax legislation. What a freaking surprise!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/26/2011 @ 11:35 amhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/05/26/palins_exploratory_campaign_a_nationwide_bus_tour.html
ian cormac (72470d) — 5/26/2011 @ 11:36 amThe guy keeps addressing me, as though I didn’t already prove above he lied about me.
It’s pretty funny. I’m not really reading his comments since … at least 24 hours ago. The debate is over. What point could there be in the claims of a guy who will lie to you? Any truths he tells are just meant to conceal the lie that follows. We all know how this work. We all run into people like EPWJ at some point.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/26/2011 @ 11:37 amAnd amazingly, Palin is in a dead heat with Romney.
It’s not by ideal scenario, but I think a lot of Palin’s fans who believed in her have some reason to be happy she’s weathered the storm about as well as anybody else, and better than most.
I’m sincerely hoping we nominate someone else, but it’s nothing personal against Palin, who I think is basically the opposite of EPWJ.
Dustin (c16eca) — 5/26/2011 @ 11:39 amLiberal Joshua Green of The Atlantic gives a nice history of the oil industry controlling politics and the Republican Party in Alaska, outlining its endemic corruption, and provides the answers for the 350th time for EricPW to ignore about why a reform minded Palin was not popular with oil industry shill Republican legislators but was with Alaskan voters.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/06/the-tragedy-of-sarah-palin/8492/1/
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/26/2011 @ 1:09 pmSarah Palin on a bus tour is even better news for Obama than the bin laden thingy I think
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/26/2011 @ 1:25 pm“Sarah Palin on a bus tour is even better news for Misogyfeets than the bin laden thingy I think”
Charofeets – FTFY. Still time to run run run before she comes to a town near you and infects you with the coochie cooties from her naughty bits.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/26/2011 @ 3:05 pmshe can have a tasty michelada with me if she really wants to I guess Mr. daley but I still won’t vote for her cause I find her candidacy disheartening personally and, more broadly, demeaning to the politics of our little country
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 5/26/2011 @ 3:12 pm