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5/2/2011

Bin Laden death reax: The shameless and stupid

Filed under: General — Karl @ 8:18 pm



[Posted by Karl]

Last night’s announcement that the US had killed Osama bin Laden was a night for all Americans to feel some measure of victory — or joy that justice had been done, or relief, or closure, or sober reflection on the past near-decade of war, or some complex combination of those feelings.

But for some Americans, the news was a signal to lapse into simple partisan hackery. Don’t get me wrong. Bin Laden’s death will have some partisan political impact, and it is the job of some to discuss it. And the 24/7 news cycle churns ever faster in the age of social media. Obviously, people are going to start raising the topic today. Yet there remains something disturbing about the mentality that leaps immediately to partisan politics upon hearing war news.

Michelle Malkin notes a couple of examples of this mentality. The crass college kids chanting “Yes, we can!” and “Four more years!” outside the White House might almost be excused their immaturity from relative youth, but DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz — who overtly demanded credit for Pres. Obama — and Rep. Gary Ackerman — who twice commented that this is the “mission accomplished” moment Pres. Bush “fantasized” about –really ought to be old enough to know better.

The childish “mission accomplished” jab was by no means limited to Ackerman. ThinkProgress, run and funded by the top echelons of the Democratic Party, was tweeting it during or just after Pres. Obama’s announcement. Prominent lefty blogger Atrios beat them to it. For TNR’s self-confessed Bush-hater Jonathan Chait, it was downright personal: “May 1: Hitler dead, OBL dead, Jonathan Chait born. Bush tried to ruin my b-day w/Mission Accomplished photo-op, but failed.” Chait makes the subtext of the “mission accomplished” jabs explicit, reminding us how many on the left were angry over the idea of “mission accomplished” in 2003 and how happy they were to oversimplify Pres. Bush’s speech that day (which spoke of the “difficult work” left to do in pacifying parts of Iraq, hunting down Saddam’s regime, and transitioning to a democracy) to inflict political damage on the war effort during the insurgency in Iraq. That’s why the immediate reaction of FireDogLake’s Marcy Wheeler was: “In 2006, when they got Zarqawi, I had to remind the nutters on the plane celebrating that OBL was the guy we were REALLY after.” Her co-blogger, David Dayen, reached further back for his dig: “Was GHW Bush sitting with a member of the bin Laden family this time too?”

Although I already mentioned ThinkProgress (and alluded to the Center for American Progress that runs it), one of its star bloggers, Matt Yglesias, deserves special mention for at least blatantly announcing that he was engaging in “some political point scoring.” It deserves that mention in part because Yglesias has previously entertained the idea that John Ashcroft was a bigger threat than bin Laden and even yesterday suggested that bin Laden was not a big deal in his “serious” take on the news, except as a pretext for pulling out of Afghanistan. It’s also worth noting that at least a couple of the commenters to his point-scoring post were seemingly uncomfortable with how narrow and cheap Yglesias was. One can imagine that the reaction of the typical swing voter to the atttitude of people like Yglesias, Markos Moulitsas and Michael Moore is even worse. The left is lucky that independents likely won’t see this infantile behavior directly.

These leftosphere reactions are ultimately as stupid as they are shameless. For example, Bill Sher (of HuffPo and OurFuture) can snark: “Middle East democracy and Al Qaeda: two things President Obama took more seriously than President Bush,” which will come as news to the Iranians and Egyptians. Grist magazine’s David Roberts gloated: “We booted the cowboy and elected a black, liberal urbanite, and he’s the one who tracked down the bad guy. It’s just too, too delicious.” How does that look in light of the news that the intelligence ultimately leading to bin Laden’s death came from the harsh interrogation of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Faraj al-Libi? Indeed, what does it do for any progressive’s credibility to be cheering a unilateral, targeted assassination? Do they think that in Pakistan and other countries, Pres. Obama isn’t looking a lot like Sheriff Bart? The lefties highlighting the fact that Obama said during the 2008 campaign he would conduct such an operation — and criticizing Sens. Hillary Clinton and John McCain for disagreeing — are now siding with people like Andrew McCarthy, which is fine by me, but the blatant hackery involved should be embarrassing to the left.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel of stupid, however, is Peter Daou (Internet guru to the Kerry and Hillary Clinton campaigns) and Dave Weigel (fmr. JournoLister and current Slate blogger). Daou’s instant reaction: “That giant sucking sound? The air coming out of the entire GOP field tonight.” Weigel asked, “So, uh, who wants to run against this guy?”, suggesting the job would be left to Buddy Roemer. Nate Silver may have joined in the instant political pile-on, but was at least smart enough to notice that winning the first part of the Gulf War didn’t propel Pres. George H.W. Bush to reelection in 1992. That election turned instead on the economy and the deficit… which sounds awfully similar to today.

Of course, not everyone on the left was this crass. The Nation’s Ari Melber tweeted this morning: “Political experts are analyzing Obama’s “Osama Bounce” – proof that being a politico can warp your brain & your heart.” Moreover, I am sure that examples of kneejerk shamelessness can be found on the right. However, MoJo’s David Corn went looking for them and turned up a handful of blog commenters and a milblogger I never heard of — which may be why Corn stooped to lumping them in with angry jihadis. Corn apparently found no pundit as prominent as people like Chait, Kos, Moore, Yglesias, Sher, Roberts, Daou or Weigel — something for which the right can be proud.

–Karl

72 Responses to “Bin Laden death reax: The shameless and stupid”

  1. grab osama then obama
    hit the flo

    and then he bounce wit it bounce wit it

    happyfeet (760ba3)

  2. It is great for American that Obama made the call correctly. And really, there’s more to it than just approving. Obama let the military take the time they needed, and he didn’t screw this up by involving anyone he shouldn’t have (such as allies).

    Credit due.

    It’s more than a little annoying to consider how he treated these national security issues when someone else was making these tough decisions. It’s more than a little annoying to see lefties demand Obama get quite a bit of credit, after granting himself plenty already, and also deny Bush his due credit. I guess that’s life, though.

    This is democracy. We have a bunch of creeps, but they do run for elections. We don’t kill eachother for power. It’s highly cynical, and downright ugly, and sometimes someone who runs on one platform for national security is forced by reality to abandon it for his predecessor’s doctrines.

    That’s what Osama Bin Laden wanted to take away from us. He failed. Every time I see some partisan hack mangle the issues for some stupid petty gain, I realize this is the least bad system mankind has.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  3. I don’t get this idea that Obama made the call correctly Mr. Dustin. We spend literally billions looking for this Osama person and bumble just decides to have people blow his head off? …

    bumble squandered an immeasurably priceless opportunity to interrogate the man who was responsible for 9/11 and many many other evil anti-American deeds, a man who may be aware of untolds more evil deeds being planned, and after all those years and all those monies, an unparalleled intelligence opportunity was wasted.

    It’s not a decision someone what gave a crap about American national security would make I don’t think.

    happyfeet (760ba3)


  4. “Middle East democracy and Al Qaeda: two things President Obama took more seriously than President Bush”

    One Iranian nuclear explosion will put paid to that quack notion, along with the four more years chants and all the rest.

    OBL was insignificant, and, frankly, I suspect he’s actually been dead for years, since Tora Bora, for a number of reasons. Its been convenient so far to not create an Islamic martyr, so he was “left alive”, but, now that he’s been slowly shifted out of significance, The Big 0 decided to go for the campaign moment and throw OBL under the Big 0 bus.

    Smock Puppet (c9dcd8)

  5. BTW, what an awesome collection of links, Karl.

    I didn’t see this one, where Powerline shows Pelosi flipping completely on this importance of this occasion, based on which party holds the oval office.

    I can only imagine what the reaction would be like if Bush had the gall to play this partisan game.

    Honestly, one thing that really bugs me is that I’m not really seeing a call from the administration to recognize that this took ten years of work. Most that work was not done by Bush or Cheney, after all. Most of it was done by military and intel. Ten years of working hard to uncover every little clue, interrogate the hell out of the right people, scour the globe, and finally, thanks to Obama not giving up, I grant, we succeed.

    That effort didn’t begin the way Obama described it, with a 2009 meeting with Leon Panetta. Frankly, that’s when this long hard work simply reached a conclusion… we found him thanks to a lot of steps that politicians like Obama were not always big fans of.

    That’s OK. That’s how this country works. We rarely accomplish any long term thing without policy changes. I just think it’s pretty nasty to try to deny what this story was really about. Ten years of determination. I think that changes the nature of the congratulations.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  6. Off topic: Tories win in Canada! Grits comprehensively beaten!! There were some worrying polls late last week, but as Malcolm Fraser used to say, the only poll that counts is the real poll. The Tories now have a majority of their own, and the Grits won’t even be the official opposition. Their image as the natural party of government is shattered, hopefully forever. YES, YES, YES!

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  7. . We spend literally billions looking for this Osama person and bumble just decides to have people blow his head off? …

    OK, I’ve thought about that, and I see your point. Pump the guy for information. He was incredibly knowledgeable, I am sure.

    I don’t think we would have broken Osama without waterboarding or worse. If Obama was willing to do that, he’s probably only do so in secret.

    And I admit it’s not necessarily politically selfless for Obama to undertake this mission. Not going after Osama would be political suicide. I do think he easily could have gone in for an airstrike, but he took a riskier path.

    BTW, I’m not convinced we know yet whether or not they tried to take Osama alive. I kinda assume they were willing to, but that Osama and his henchmen fought, and this was nearly unavoidable without some kind of sleeping gas (that I don’t even know exists).

    Dustin (c16eca)

  8. big news, Milhouse!

    Dustin (c16eca)

  9. Obama can take great pride in giving bin Laden a sponge bath and proper Muslim burial.

    Arizona Bob (aa856e)

  10. well not shooting him in the gourd woulda been one strategy I think

    happyfeet (760ba3)

  11. Don’t tase me infidel!

    Anyway, I hope we learn more about the operation in the future in a way that helps explain why they didn’t capture him. If that was just a blanket order to assassinate him, people will have to decide if they are OK with that. Saves us a trial and spectacle, costs us precious information.

    It’s hard for me to justify.

    Sadly, I think a lot of this was already set by cans of worms already set up by paranoia during the Bush administration. Suppose Obama took Osama into secret custody, had him waterboarded, and then a few months later, presented him like a prize.

    Surely, it would almost impossible to avoid making that look like a political plot to distract from the economy. And that’s if everything goes smoothly. How does Obama tell us that Osama died in custody from waterboarding or suicide? I wouldn’t hold it against him, but it would be a real disaster.

    Sure, I can just wave that off with the point that Obama should just do the right thing, whatever that is, but these political problems exist because this is a genuinely sticky issue with no perfect solution.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  12. From a yahoo news blurb:

    His body was quickly taken away for burial at sea, but not before a DNA match was done to prove his identity. A U.S. official said there also were photos showing bin Laden with the fatal wound above his left eye, a gunshot that tore away part of his skull. The photos were not immediately released.

    A burial at sea?

    WtF? The guy’s an admiral?

    And a headshot. How convenient. Much harder to actually do any visual ID.

    And, while DNA tests are certainly significant, who is doing them, and under what circumstances? Is the DNA, and full videos of the testing process and the data that came out of it being recorded so that it can’t be falsified or signed off on? Is the DNA sample being submitted to multiple independent labs for confirmation?

    I’m not claiming I’m right in that assertion of his death at Tora Bora. I’m just saying that it would not be hard to fake all this, given all the convenient details surrounding the body, its handling, and the statements about things being made.

    Smock Puppet (c9dcd8)

  13. New Yorker reporter Seymour Hersh referred to the Navy Seal team that took bin Laden out as Dick Cheney’s personal assassination squad.

    Lesson: Republican wars are bad; Democrat wars are good.

    Arizona Bob (aa856e)

  14. Here is something that surprised me: within 15 minutes of the news channels announcing that bin Laden was dead, there were hundreds of GWU students gathered in front of the White House, complete with not just flags on a narrow stick, but large 3 x 5 flags on poles. Another thing that the students had, that they were waving around, was Obama 2012 signs. Not just quickly printed up student-type signs, but campaign signs. One had a sign: GWU tuition $47K, housing $10K, Osama bin Laden dead, priceless. When Geraldo first showed them, before the president’s speech, I remarked how young the people looked.

    There is no way in hell that all those students could have gotten from George Washington U. to the White House in 15 minutes, not by public transportation and walking would have taken more time. It was as if these students, with their Obama 2012 signs knew that they should show up at the White House fence at that particular time.

    Hell, the people that gathered at Times Square, which has people in it at all hours of the day and night, took longer to gather than these GWU students took to get to the White House.

    It was almost as if someone tipped them off that the announcement that ObL was dead was coming.

    retire05 (2d538e)

  15. happy: We didn’t need to pump Osama, we needed to kill him; mission accomplished on that part :)

    If I had made the call, it would have been shoot first, identify later. But that’s just me.

    Lord Nazh (821ae1)

  16. yay saved from the spam filter, thanks P

    Lord Nazh (821ae1)

  17. retire05, if it really was just 15 minutes, then good point!

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  18. The military trains to kill people, not read them their rights and take them into custody. A half second hesitation in that situation could cost you your life. It is one thing to die fighting and another because of rules of engagement that your enemy does not recognize.

    dunce (b89258)

  19. Milhouse, I’m serious. I was watching Geraldo who had just announced the killing as it’s scrolling on the bottom of the screen. I was thinking to myself that I didn’t know if I could handle Geraldo as he would probably break out in a song about Obama at any minute. The next thing I know they are showing GWU students at the White House fence, hundreds of them, all cheering and holding flags and Obama campaign posters. The station cut away to Ground Zero where there seemed to be a normal amount of people. It was 10:05 p.m., EST.

    Hell, if you ran all the way from GWU to the White House, you couldn’t make it in 15 minutes. I’m sitting there watching thinking “How the hell did those kids get there so fast?” At that point, the nation was still waiting for Obama to give his speech. And we waited and we waited and we waited.

    And what did Geraldo do when his program was over? Why he went to join the GWU students, of course.

    Something just ain’t right about those students getting there so fast.

    retire05 (2d538e)

  20. Dunce, why do you think we have lost so many soldiers in Iraq? ROE. When my friend from the 4th I.D. came home after their first deployment, he complained about how, if they were being fired on from the top of a mosque, they had to identify the shooter by being able to see his face before they fired back. He also complained (and this is a career guy) that JAG was up their butts like cheap underwear.

    retire05 (2d538e)

  21. dunce, had we lost a single SEAL, and the ROE been to capture alive, I would be extremely angry. But we really don’t know what the story is with that.

    I bet they went in and faced instant gunfire, and the issue of capture was moot.

    retire, that sounds a lot like astroturf via OFA, though I admit, I don’t even really mind that much if they wanted to create a little jubilation on a slow sunday night. I do very much mind the Obama 2012 signage, though. That’s tacky. I understand Obama will now go on a tour of ground zero. I hope he invites W. I hope he remembers to mention the fact this was a successful ten year effort.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  22. Dustin, I don’t mind the jubilation on the part of the GWU students. I do mind if they were tipped off to the kill before the American people were.

    As to Obama inviting W. to Ground Zero, forget about it. Ain’t gonna happen. Obama does not share the lime light with anyone. If you remember his speech from last night, he talked of the efforts of the last two years, not the last ten.

    And don’t you think it is odd that the leak about the information on the courier being obtained from KSM is being done by “unnamed” sources and the White House is NOT denying it?

    retire05 (2d538e)

  23. The college kids had way more than 15 minutes. The story itself leaked on Twitter before the original start time of the speech, and the WH delayed the speech by over 45 minutes. Moreover, GWU is closer to the WH than you may think.

    Karl (385513)

  24. He also complained (and this is a career guy) that JAG was up their butts like cheap underwear.

    Sounds like what’s happened to the Israeli armed forces over the past 5-10 years. Now they have lawyers making the call on missile strikes, and “humanitarian liason officers” on the ground dictating operations. It’s unsupportable and will end in disaster.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  25. All this hullaballoo reminds me of one of those summer teen movies, where the geeky guy makes it onto the football team as a joke, then unexpectedly makes the big play in the big game and wins it all, and suddenly gets the cheerleader and runs for class president because magically he’s not a geek anymore.

    The idea that this one, quite dubious win will somehow turn PresO from the bubmling milquetoast into the proto-hero around whom we’ll all suddenly rally is laughable to the point of being ridiculous. Is this is really how shallow people are?

    Rampant unemployment, gas prices that would have had people calling for Bush’s head, inflation, government fascism against businesses, arrogance and incompetence, but a Seal Team suddenly bags the bad guy and Obama is suddenly the next Reagan?

    Gag.

    Steve B (42224f)

  26. milblogger I never heard of

    you’ve never heard of Blackfive? y’all need to get out more… he’s the paratrooper of love. 8)

    redc1c4 (fb8750)

  27. its a great news

    dogum (079731)

  28. Sy Hersh is a hypocrite.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  29. The Left will muddle this issue to suit their needs, just as they did do, when Bill Clinton was, or was not offered Binny Boy, by the Sudan.

    Who ya’ gonna’ believe? The guy that used a cigar for another purpose, beside the ACTUAL purpose, smoking the damn thing?

    A fellow by the name of Berger, that made the attempt to impress the ladies, by stuffing documents down his pants?

    Or the Sudanese that stated, we made the offer on Binny.

    Clinton’s thinking: “They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

    JP (c4988c)

  30. Breaking News:

    bin Laden is dead, millions in the U.S. have found employment..gas pump price is now $1.89 a gallon

    JP (c4988c)

  31. Seriously, you have never heard of Blackfive? Wow…it is hard to find a MilBlog with more than 300 readers that doesn’t link to him once a month or so, and a LOT of…waitasecond

    Hey, Patterico has him on his Blogroll…

    I call shenanigans

    MunDane (54a83b)

  32. Karl, if you think that the students could have made it to the White House in 15 minutes from the place on the Google map you provided, they must have had rockets up their butts because the map you provided was in Austin, Texas.

    Major fail on your part.

    retire05 (2d538e)

  33. “There is no way in hell that all those students could have gotten from George Washington U. to the White House in 15 minutes”

    It’s a few blocks away.

    “I do mind if they were tipped off to the kill before the American people were.”

    Man you’re hopeless.

    gator (280b35)

  34. Talk about libtard spectacles.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  35. gator, why don’t you time yourself?

    Hear the news, gather up your flag and Obama campaign posters, get out of your building, run two blocks down 21st St., turn left and run four blocks down F St. NW to 17th Street and another approx two blocks to the White House fence.

    I guess you think all those students are Olympic spinters.

    retire05 (2d538e)

  36. Running from GWU to the White House, you could make it in about 5 minutes. Walking briskly, maybe 10. The above conspiricy theory is bizarre.

    That said, it’s sad, if not unexpected, to see students from my alma mater turning the kill into a political rally for The One. Then again, look at what happened at the post-Loughnar rally in Arizona. Everything’s a rally for our Ear Leader.

    KGB (ec99cf)

  37. retire, Karl’s link took me to GWU.

    Regardless. The map says it’s about a 15 minute walk. Make sure you click the ‘walk’ icon, if that hasn’t been selected.

    Not to mention the students could have come from bars (on Sunday night? I don’t know what DC’s night life is like, even though I lived on the other side of that town for a while).

    The above conspiricy theory is bizarre.

    No it isn’t. The idea that they would have people prepare to show support for Obama in his single good moment in his presidency? I believe that. It barely even rates as a conspiracy.

    What I found more interesting was retire’s comment that he saw Obama 2012 signs. I don’t really even mind if they used their organizing network to communicate to eachother that they wanted to cheer this good news. There’s nothing bizarre about that. It’s just trashy that the speech itself was similar to a campaign speech, and the Obama supporters reacted to the news with partisanship.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  38. Dustin, I just clicked on Karl’s link again. Can you tell me when the feds moved I-35 to Washington, D.C.?

    Karl’s link shows Austin, Texas.

    retire05 (2d538e)

  39. retire, first of all, who cares?

    Second of all, 2121 I St NW, Washington, District of Columbia is not in Texas.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  40. Look, I have no problem with the GWU students (of Washington, D.C.) gathering in front of the White House to cheer the fact that a Islamic slug is now dead.

    My problem was with the speed at which a couple of hundred students gathered (someone had to start the idea and get them moving) and the Obama, 2012 signs. Now, you can mock me all you want, but it was still record time.

    Perhaps someone can explain to me how more students managed to gather in D.C. faster than the people on Times Square, where hundreds of people are wandering around at all hours of the day and night.

    The students were right to gather. They were wrong to take their damn polical campaign signs with them.

    retire05 (2d538e)

  41. Dustin, when I click on Karl’s link, on the left hand side it says: George Washinton University near Austin, Texas.

    Could the link be geared to provide information per the user’s location?

    retire05 (2d538e)

  42. I’m not mocking you either way. I agree that’s very odd.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  43. Could the link be geared to provide information per the user’s location?

    Comment by retire05 — 5/3/2011 @ 8:57 am

    I think that’s probably a possibility. I also think my link is a little more helpful, though honestly, it’s not worth this much discussion. We can find it in the google maps if the link isn’t perfect.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  44. Hmmmmm. Bin Laden hated the infidels, but apparently liked our soda.

    Kman (5576bf)

  45. “Hear the news, gather up your flag and Obama campaign posters, get out of your building, run two blocks down 21st St., turn left and run four blocks down F St. NW to 17th Street and another approx two blocks to the White House fence. ”

    Why down to F? Just walk down H to Pennsylvania, the fence is on the north side.

    I can’t believe this dude.

    gator (280b35)

  46. Karl’s Google maps link is useless. It’s just a search for “george+washington+university”, with no other location information given. So naturally each person will see that search near whatever location he has set as his default, or else it will just be a random search through the world with those three keywords.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  47. Yes, Milhouse, it’s just a search for the school, but the first result for me was the address I posted in DC. I think this is a silly thing to complain about. It’s hardly useless, either, since you can use it to find the school pretty damn easily.

    My link, however, did the walking route from GWU to the WH in about 15 minutes.

    I think it’s much more interesting that they had signs prepared with Obama 2012 on them. It’s not hard to believe that all kinds of groups of people would consider meeting to cheer the great news, but only a certain type of trash would organize in hopes of making it political.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  48. Dustin, the search is absolutely useless. If it gave you results near DC, then you must have DC set as your default location. For the vast majority who don’t, it will not give that result. For instance, the first result it gives me is the Port Authority bus terminal in Times Square.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  49. If any Obama campaign organisation got advance notice so they could organise the White House rally, that’s despicable. At best it’s the political equivalent of insider trading, since the information belonged to the whole nation.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  50. Wasn’t there an hour delay on the announcement by Obama beyond the scheduled time?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  51. My default location is about 5 miles from Austin.

    But there is no George Washington University in Austin.

    The link gets you to google maps, and was Karl’s POLITE hint that we should use those maps before asserting how far GWU was from the white house.

    The complaining responses aren’t really productive.

    For the vast majority who don’t, it will not give that result.

    No. Actually, google maps is easy to use, and all users can get the information they need for this discussion from it. And I suspect most would see the university in the top result, and everyone would see it in the top few. Again, the point of the link is to politely tell people to get the facts before making incorrect assertions.

    Oh, why do I bother. I didn’t intend to come to the argument clinic. I wanted to talk about reactions to Bin Laden’s death.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  52. And I suspect most would see the university in the top result, and everyone would see it in the top few.

    Not true. All of the results Karl’s link gives me are in and around NYC.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  53. Dustin, when I clink on Karl’s link the pin points show George Washinton Carver Museum and Austin Public Library. I think his link just provides the results of the words George, Washinton, University for my default location.

    Now, to the reaction to bin Laden’s death: I think it was great that GWU students turned out to show their joy at the news. I think it was tacky they showed up with their “Obama, 2012″ posters that are obviously high-slick campaign posters. And why so much visability given to those students? Why not the people that gathered at Times Square or Ground Zero, itself? Times Square certainly is closer to the first attack in the war against us by radical Islamists. I also think it was tacky of Geraldo to go to the White House fence so he could show video of students with their Obama 2012 signs. By hey, no one ever said Geraldo Rivera had class.

    Sunday night and yesterday we had a happy nation that such an evil person was sent to his just dues. And it will be the topic of conversation for a week or so. But then, it will be back to reality; almost 10% unemployment, gas and milk edging toward $5.00/gallon, food prices increasing affecting the poor the hardest, millions being dropped from the work force rolls to keep the unemployment numbers below 10%, GDP at a snail’s crawl. i.e. reality will once again set in. And ObL will still be dead.

    retire05 (2d538e)

  54. Eh, it’s not at all bizarre to think that the administration organized a celebratory crowd ready to cheer Obama’s announcement that we got OBL. It’s the professionally printed signs that are the giveaway, even more than the timing. They didn’t even have to leak what the good news was, just tell them “be at the WH, good news to be announced”.

    LarryD (feb78b)

  55. Yeah, LarryD, it really could be like that.

    In fact, perhaps this kind of organization explains the odd delay in the speech’s delivery.

    It’s not the distance to the white house that matters (I mean, we don’t even know these guys started from there… they could have been out drinking) so much as the signs, and the late Sunday night.

    And it’s not like we aren’t seeing tons of similar organization now.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  56. Exactly. And that should be a major scandal.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  57. You already know how it would be treated if Bush Jr or Sr, or Reagan, had pulled a stunt like that.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  58. What is the most important story to the left?

    The fact that Sarah alledgedly threw her daughter under the bus.

    Anything to distract from the flailing demagogue.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  59. The fact that Sarah allegedly threw her daughter under the bus.

    Huh? I haven’t heard that one yet. What’s it about?

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  60. Bristol supports the gay marriage and when Sarah found out she got all pissy so Bristol told Sarah she could get her bigot ass out of her house and never come back

    or something

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  61. Except that she was with her, in Washington, with her this weekend, in Madison some weeks before, but
    you know how Soros radio, works, facts are conspicuously inconvenient,

    narciso (79ddc3)

  62. I report you decide Mr. narciso

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  63. Crappyfeet is right.

    Palin threw her under the bus? Strange even Bristol doesn’t recall it that way.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  64. Now we are in the best of hands, words fail:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-osama-bin-laden-2011-5#ixzz1LIbORJQ5

    narciso (79ddc3)

  65. Yeah right, because Sarah Palin is some sort of hardcore Christianist homophone or something, right? It’s hard to keep track of all the bizarre lefty myths these days.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  66. So when Bristol Palin comes out and says she and her mom didn’t have a spat over her left of center values will the national soros enquirer redact it or not?

    Wow narciso that is just wow.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  67. This is the epitome of the 52% stupidest set,

    narciso (79ddc3)

  68. NO she is not she allowed civil unions for gays.

    DohBiden (15aa57)

  69. Well, not really. She vetoed a bill that the court had ruled unconstutional. As far as I know she hasn’t publicly expressed a view about civil unions, though it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if, like the majority of Americans, she supports them.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  70. Sorry ’bout the confusion on the GWU link. I actually thought it was set to DC, but must’ve copied the generic link by mistake. If you refine the search to DC, it’s fairly clear that it’s a 10-15 min. walk.

    Karl (385513)

  71. Here’s a reaction – I am so SICK of the endless STUPIDITY and blatant contradictions by the msm and the idiot babbling “unnamed officials”.

    ” Other details about bin Laden’s compound suggest the Al Qaeda figurehead felt relatively secure in his posh surroundings. There were no guards on site, according to a senior U.S. official. ”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/03/official-guards-bin-laden-compound-time-raid/#ixzz1LL3HS7Y5

    OH REALLY, NO GUARDS AND VERY SECURE, YET IT WAS A 40 MINUTE FIREFIGHT WITH OUR SEALS 6TH.
    FORTY FREAKING MINUTES OF FIREFIHGTING AND NOT A GUARD IN SIGHT… AND A FEELING OF SECURITY BY THE OTHER O …

    The press lies so much they can’t even stop blatant stupidity anymore.

    SiliconDoc (7ba52b)

  72. How many more are there is what should be asked like right now.

    ” Four months before U.S. Navy SEALS swooped over the border from Afghanistan and killed Usama bin Laden, Umar Patek, an Al Qaeda-linked Indonesian militant suspected of helping to mastermind the 2002 Bali bombings, was arrested in Abbottabad.

    Pakistani officials had kept Patek’s detention on January 25 secret until last month, when the information was suddenly and inexplicably released…”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/03/neighborhood-pakistani-kids-suspicions-bin-laden-compound/#ixzz1LL6cMhdN

    Well there’s at least 2 fish, how many more are there…

    SiliconDoc (7ba52b)


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