Free Advice to Liberal Organizations: If Someone Comes in Claiming to be Trafficking Underage Girls, DON’T HELP THEM
[Guest post by Aaron Worthing; if you have tips, please send them here.]
Update: GMTA. Glenn Reynolds offers remarkably similar advice and asks a relevant question: “Do pimps really come in for advice so often that this doesn’t set off any alarms?”
After James O’Keefe and Breitbart aired videos where O’Keefe went undercover as a pimp trafficking underage girls, I thought to myself, “well, that won’t work ever again.”
Man, was I wrong:
Live action, a conservative, pro-life activist group went into Planned Parenthood and, well the video, albeit edited, speaks for itself. He tells her that these are underage girls in the sex worker business and that he thinks he caught VD from one of them, but he is not sure which one. And they continue to help him.
You have to think somewhere the people in charge of Planned Parenthood are beating their heads against their desks as they watch this. It is stunning, almost painful to watch, and almost hilarious in the sheer “fail!” of it, too.
Now to be fair to Planned Parenthood, there are claims they reported this couple to the police at some point. And I would like to see the unedited video and transcript. But seriously, unless the missing piece is, “Ma’am, I am rehearsing for a play I am in, where I play a pimp trying to get help with my business. Can you read these lines for me”—unless there is a deception that radical, at the very least the woman in this video has indicted herself. Maybe not criminally, but morally.
And Planned Parenthood should be very careful before they issue any denials. One of the most brilliant elements of the O’Keefe video is that every time Acorn issued a denial, they issued a new video contradicting it.
Hat tip: Hot Air.
[Posted and authored by Aaron Worthing.]
Planned Parenthood was morally indicted many, many years ago.
Icy Texan (958677) — 2/1/2011 @ 9:00 amHaven’t seen the video yet – just the opening frame – but it’s a nice touch, using the Planned Parenthood logo in the transcript of the sting. It’s like anti-branding.
Brian (6d0317) — 2/1/2011 @ 9:04 amIt blows my mind that Planned Parenthood isn’t shunned by society the way the KKK is.
I would rather starve under an overpass than work for them.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 2/1/2011 @ 9:30 amGo back at read the full TPM article. PP also says that each clinic reported the allegations to the police:
“The Planned Parenthood spokeswoman said that individual clinics called local law enforcement. When the national organization noticed the pattern, she said, they wrote to Holder. She said that there’s been some contact between the group and the FBI but declined to elaborate.”
Jim (631851) — 2/1/2011 @ 9:33 amHmmm . . . a group that advocates the killing of minority children (albeit, in the womb)?
Tell me again Dustin. What’s the difference between Planned Parenthood and the KKK?
Icy Texan (958677) — 2/1/2011 @ 9:35 amIs there a difference? The KKK was packed with Democrats in its heyday too.
Jamie (caec7d) — 2/1/2011 @ 9:49 amThe bad attitude about parents clearly shown in this video is very odd for an organization that has parenthood in its name.
Amphipolis (e01538) — 2/1/2011 @ 9:52 am3…2…1…Shrieks of just another rogue employee begin.
Funny how so many of these organizations are fully staffed by rogue employees.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 9:52 amI’d like to know which clinic she was referring underage girls to. Was it by any chance in Philadelphia?
Amphipolis (e01538) — 2/1/2011 @ 9:54 amConvicted criminal and dildo boat enthusiast James O’Keefe exposes moral corruption wherever it may exists.
AJB (3375b6) — 2/1/2011 @ 9:55 amAJB, so you didn’t pay any real attention did you? And you had to come here and prove that you did not pay any attention, just in case there was doubt?
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/1/2011 @ 9:57 amYes, O’Keefe does expose moral and legal corruption. So far not a single one of his allegations has been debunked, no matter how hard his enemies have tried. Nor has he been caught doing anything immoral. The misdemeanor he was convicted of would apply equally to every investigative reporter.
Milhouse (e7588c) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:01 amO’Keefe falsified a badge or ID to gain access to the Senator’s office and to the government office building, Milhouse.
Jim (631851) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:07 amAlso, since when do conservatives give a crap about human trafficking victims? They’re usually “illegal” immigrants, right?
Human trafficking victims often deported before they testify
US: Victims of Trafficking Held in ICE Detention
Sex trafficking victims’ lives in visa limbo
If you want to help human trafficking victims, you can start by treating them as people who need help instead of as criminals.
AJB (3375b6) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:08 amPlanned Parenthood sometimes screws up but when you for reals need an abortion lots of times they’re the bestest safest and most cost-effective choice.
But it would be better if there was more competition to keep them on their toes.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:09 amAJB seems to think that dildo boat enthusiasm is a bad thing.
Brian (6d0317) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:12 amAJB translation: Squirrel!
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:13 amAJB
sure, the way to stop the victims of human traffic is NOT to stop the trafficking of humans. Okay.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:15 am“well, that won’t work ever again.”
Never misunderestimate the stupidity of the Left.
AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:16 amThis is astounding. No wonder there have been 50 million abortions since 1973.
DRJ (fdd243) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:17 amHow many high school girls who get knocked up need abortions in time to fit into their prom dresses?
Michael Ejercito (64388b) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:20 amThere goes Aaron Worthing again, with his simplistic bourgeois logic.
It’s reminiscent of Chief Justice Roberts, the black-robed lunkhead who opined: “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”
Brian (6d0317) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:21 amI have no idea really Mr. Ejercito but what I’ve noticed is that Planned Parenthood gets a really hard time on the internets but they’re providing a service people apparently want and a lot of the criticism I read doesn’t seem constructive in spirit or tone.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:22 amAJB’s convenient “victims” of human trafficking are conspirators in a fraud against the American People and Government, and are therefore, per se, criminals – not victims.
AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:22 amMr. Worthing’s v sage advice excepted of course.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:23 amhappyfeet: Planned Parenthood sometimes screws up?
I do agree that this problem recurs, but I think it is a good bit beyond a screw-up.
Minimize, blame shift, distract, repeat. Same old avoidance pattern. There will be no change here today.
Amphipolis (e01538) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:27 amThat’s easy. The KKK didn’t kill nearly as many black people.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:30 amTaking this seriously, ask yourself: why don’t bright, hard working, upstanding people start abortion clinics? Why is this field full of moral degenerates?
Because abortion is evil. It is a service in great demand, but it’s evil. The kind of person who is going to sell it, instead of donuts or eyeglasses, sucks. Simple as that.
You’re also going to find that strip club owners and the guys who sell spam advertising are not on the same moral level as Latin professors and veterinarians.
So your problem is not just one of quantity, but fundamental quality. You’re not going to run into any reputable chop shops or abortionists. Ever.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:34 amShe was just trying to protect the reproductive rights of 15-year old sex slaves.
Amphipolis (e01538) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:46 amThe NFL is cracking down on underage prostitution at the Superbowl (there is? During Halftime?)
But seriously, a guy from Hawaii who went to Miami last year to pimp a teenager got only 20 years – with his appendage still attached (My wife offered to do it if I failed in the task)
20 years, out in five for sex slavery of children
how the hell did that happen..
You can get life for kidnapping and abusing a child but only 20 years for slavery sex exploitation?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-01-31-child-prostitution-super-bowl_N.htm?csp=34news
EricPWJohnson (818ac7) — 2/1/2011 @ 10:56 amIf this young woman did not know about the O’Keefe sting of Acorn, obviously she does not watch and/or read the news. Of course, now she might get promoted to a higher paying job and hidden in plain view.
PatAZ (29affb) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:10 amEric
if that hawaaii man was convicted in federal court, he is not getting out in 5 years. can’t say about state court, though.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:21 amDamn. Just damn.
Neo (03e5c2) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:21 amWhere is Obama’s Safe Schools Czar when you need him? These illegal immigrant sex slaves should be in school turning tricks for teachers, not out on the street where it’s not safe!
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:29 amI hope he’s not in Cairo
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:38 amMr worthing noted that:
The linked article said:
OK, then there ought to be an actual police report, in Perth Amboy, NJ, or perhaps with the FBI, dated the 13th, 14th, maybe even as late as the 17th of January of this year. If it’s there, then the woman in the film is exonerated: she just played along to get more information, maybe even help the police in setting up a sting to catch this pimp.
If it’s not there . . . .
There are only two possibilities here, and Panned Plarenthood’s defense is extremely simple: show us the police reports, and they are in the clear.
The Dana who can simplify the problem (3e4784) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:44 amEDITED TAPES BREITBART INDICTED DILDOS PHONES RACIST OKEEFE FELON !!!!!!!!!!
JD (ac5b1a) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:46 am“Now to be fair to Planned Parenthood, there are claims they reported this couple to the police at some point.”
The Dana who can simplify the problem – To be fair, we saw that attempted excuse with ACORN in Philadelphia and San Diego and it turned out to be complete after the fact azz covering bulldookey.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:55 amAJB is apparently scared of a dildo.
JD (ac5b1a) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:57 amdaleyrocks noted:
Which is why I stated that such a police report would have to be dated soon after the tape was made.
The tape is dated Thursday, 13 January 2011; I suggested that the 17th would be the last possible date, only because there was a weekend in that time frame.
The Dana who can read a calendar (3e4784) — 2/1/2011 @ 12:11 pmEPWJ will now come on to announce a summary frog – marching for the video offenders.
Dmac (498ece) — 2/1/2011 @ 12:22 pmTo which, he still has not paid off on the bet he made with JD – welcher.
Dmac (498ece) — 2/1/2011 @ 12:23 pmTo all of our friends up north, I hope you are able to weather all the algore headed your way.
JD (0d2ffc) — 2/1/2011 @ 12:32 pmJD
wait, what do you mean by Al Gore?
Do you mean snow?
Or bullsh–?
because i associate the man as much with the second as the first.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 2/1/2011 @ 12:43 pmI was referring to the former, but the latter is quite apropos as well.
JD (d4bbf1) — 2/1/2011 @ 12:45 pmBTW, it looks like Rose and O’Keefe may have committed a misdemeanor in New York:
New York
Child Abuse and Neglect
Penalties for Failure to Report and False Reporting of Child Abuse and Neglect
False Reporting
Penal Law § 240.50(4)
A person is guilty of falsely reporting an incident in the third degree when, knowing the information reported, conveyed, or circulated to be false or baseless, he or she reports, by word or action, an alleged occurrence or condition of child abuse or maltreatment that did not in fact occur or exist to:
The statewide central register of child abuse and maltreatment
Any person required to report cases of suspected child abuse or maltreatment, knowing that the person is required to report such cases, and with the intent that such an alleged occurrence be reported to the statewide central register.
Falsely reporting an incident in the third degree is a Class A misdemeanor.
Jim (631851) — 2/1/2011 @ 12:50 pmLooks like it may also be a misdemeanor in two of the other states that were involved:
Arizona
False Reporting
Rev. Stat. § 13-3620.01
A person acting with malice who knowingly and intentionally makes a false report of child abuse or neglect, or a person acting with malice who coerces another person to make a false report of child abuse or neglect, is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
A person who knowingly and intentionally makes a false report that another person made a false report is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
Virginia
Child Abuse and Neglect
Penalties for Failure to Report and False Reporting of Child Abuse and Neglect
False Reporting
Ann. Code § 63.2-1513(A)
Any person age 14 or older who makes or causes to be made a report of child abuse or neglect that he or she knows to be false shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
Any person age 14 or older who has been previously convicted under this subsection and who is subsequently convicted of making a false report of child abuse or neglect shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony.
Jim (631851) — 2/1/2011 @ 12:58 pmIt is 80 and sunny here in Chicago today. No worries.
BT (74cbec) — 2/1/2011 @ 12:58 pmWhat color is the sky in your Chicago, BT?
Some chump (4c6c0c) — 2/1/2011 @ 1:30 pmSome Chump, that weather link showed it more than 25 deg warmer than where I am right now.
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/1/2011 @ 1:31 pmI blame Sarah Palin’s violent eliminationist rhetoric and confiscatory taxes on patriotic oil companies who only have Alaska’s finest interests at heart.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 1:38 pmThe 2 inches of ice last night were worse than then 12-18 inches of snow for tonight. BT is likely snow-blind, due to the 30+ inches of algore they are about to get whacked with.
JD (d4bbf1) — 2/1/2011 @ 1:38 pmIn any case, SPQR, it’s nowhere near 80 degrees in Chicago today.
Some chump (4c6c0c) — 2/1/2011 @ 1:43 pmSome chump, well maybe in Kelvin.
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/1/2011 @ 1:46 pmDepends on where your thermostat is set.
thomas (63e9fe) — 2/1/2011 @ 1:53 pmI am filled with Obama’s HOPIUM!!!!
BT (74cbec) — 2/1/2011 @ 2:04 pmAnd I was just kidding BTW.
BT (74cbec) — 2/1/2011 @ 2:05 pmThe worst drive I ever took was about 20 years ago in the middle of a brutal snow storm on I-65 from Merrilville, IN to Indianapolis. Visibility was about 30 feet with winds of 40 to 50 mph. Trucks, buses, you name it were in the ditch. Somehow I made it. I feel for the guys driving that stretch tonight.
BT (74cbec) — 2/1/2011 @ 2:09 pmI drove it this afternoon, BT. It was not pleasant, and it is getting way worse. It should be impassable by midnight, if we get the snow they are calling for. Portions of 75 were reported to have been closed overnight. Thank Allah for all of this beautiful algore, and that ice that is coming with it, again.
JD (d4bbf1) — 2/1/2011 @ 2:16 pmPlanned Parenthood reported these incidents to the FBI. Looks like another Breitbart sting has been pwned! Wingnuts liars just can’t catch a break!
Here Now (bb0aeb) — 2/1/2011 @ 2:17 pmHaving been through a 22 – inch snow back in ’99, I already know that my car will be buried on a sidestreet, due to the snow and related humongous drifts left after Streets and San does their thing. However, still better than attempting to dig my entire alley out instead, which nearly killed me and my neighbors back then. What I’d give for a snowblower. At least we won’t have to watch Daley turn red in the face and fulminate about his awesomeness – he gone in less than three months.
Dmac (498ece) — 2/1/2011 @ 2:24 pmIt took the trolls longer than anticipated.
JD (d4bbf1) — 2/1/2011 @ 2:29 pmAs Dana asked above, show me the dates of the reports. If they were around the time of the video then I can believe them. Please see daleyrocks comment above.
Planned Parenthood has been stung before by Lila Rose hiding rape of an underage girl. And why the vitriol? Have you proved the “Wingnuts” are liars? Do you have any proof they have “extreme political views” which is the definition of a Wingnut.
Tanny O'Haley (12193c) — 2/1/2011 @ 2:31 pmDmac–I imagine all the mayoral hopefuls are quite glad this storm is hitting on Richie Daley’s watch. As you know, blizzards have not been kind to Chicago mayors’ reputations or re-election hopes in the past.
elissa (d23327) — 2/1/2011 @ 2:31 pmDana – “here now” is going to produce those police reports for you. And it apparently cannot read, since this was not Breitbart. Never let that get in the way of Teh Narrative.
JD (d4bbf1) — 2/1/2011 @ 2:31 pmhere now
that is a brilliant parody of a clueless lefty spouting talking points without paying attention to the contents of the post, or even watching the video.
very funny.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 2/1/2011 @ 2:37 pmMr O’Haley wrote:
No, show me the reports themselves, and I’ll read the dates myself. Panned Plarenthood simply telling us the dates, without documentation, is not good enough.
The untrusting Dana (132cf8) — 2/1/2011 @ 3:23 pmI want to know the name of the officers who took these reports, too.
Last time we heard about reports and the like it turned out it was the left lying. And as soon as their lies were debunked, they just lied again.
This video is disturbing, and I need some hard evidence to overcome the impression I get.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 2/1/2011 @ 3:40 pmI eagerly await the unedited videos, but I don’t see how this could possibly come out well for PP.
Snow in Chicago started, stopped, and it’s starting again. And it’s windy! One of my window screens blew off and I couldn’t run downstairs fast enough to catch it before it disappeared down the street. Let the fun begin.
carlitos (a3d259) — 2/1/2011 @ 3:40 pmYou are right, there should be no opportunity for them to lie. The reports, the names of the officers and their testimony that they took the reports, in other words, there should be full disclosure.
Tanny O'Haley (12193c) — 2/1/2011 @ 3:52 pmTo tell the truth, while this thing is indeed a monster, the endless screeching on the local TV is getting out of hand. Yes, it’s a huge blizzard; yes, it’s going to inconvenience everyone for awhile; yes, it’s going to get bitterly cold shortly after it’s stopped snowing. And guess what? You live in Chicago! There still hasn’t been anything like the late 70’s winters here: we had record snowfall and record cold temps, and neither let up for the entire winter seasons. Still remember trying to start my Pinto in order to get to school each morning – ever try to de – ice your carburetor with a lighter?
Dmac (498ece) — 2/1/2011 @ 3:55 pmLiveAction has released the full videos: Part I and Part II.
Apparently 6 Planned Parenthood clinics were targeted, “including clinics in Washington, D.C., Indiana, New York, Virginia and one in Tucson and one in Scottsdale.” It sounds like the Arizona clinics filed police reports but told police the visits were a hoax.
DRJ (fdd243) — 2/1/2011 @ 3:57 pmDmac
Yep 1979, 1980 Tulsa 22 below zero and extremes of 105 – 116 degrees for three weeks, Chicago got it much worse
EricPWJohnson (72c8f0) — 2/1/2011 @ 3:57 pmI remember those days well Dmac. 80 to 85 below wind chills. I drank alot more in those days. I guess I should have bought a bottle of Jack this afternoon along with my Oat Meal.
BT (74cbec) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:09 pmI built a multi-room snow fort in front of my house in 1979, and it lasted for months. By incorporating saucer sleds in the roof, the rooms were lit in different colors during the day. It was also usually pretty warm in there. Good times! 🙂
carlitos (a3d259) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:09 pmpropaganda whore Viv Schiller’s National Soros Radio was concerned enough about this to run a piece this morning on their blog
in typical National Soros radiuo fashion they’ve already had to correct it
but they also link a piece from the dirty socialist Associated Press what had this bit from the always creep Lila Rose…
Do you ever get the feeling that Lila is not a particularly bright person?
I do. Plus she’s just creepy.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:12 pmalways *creepy* that should be
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:12 pmsnow fort!
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:14 pmNo, she just believes that abortion is murder. It takes the life of a baby. She also seems to believe that Planned Parenthood is a corrupt organization which should be exposed and de-funded. I don’t see the problem with that or how that makes her “creepy” or not “particularly bright”. And just to create controversy with you, even though I haven’t chosen a presidential candidate, Sarah Palin for president! 🙂
Tanny O'Haley (12193c) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:19 pmI cried after seeing that video. Words fail me.
felipe (02954a) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:24 pmTanny O’Haley,
Well said and well-played.
DRJ (fdd243) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:28 pmConsider this, about Roe vs. Wade, it was built on a lie;
http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner/X0474_Roe__v._Wade.html
As with many of these left controversies like Gitmo, or the Plame mess, or the Katrina apocalypse
narciso (e888ae) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:30 pmoh. You know what? Palin was at the “Values Voters Summit” with creepy creepy Lila. I wonder if they met?
Hi Lila nice to meet you dontcha just hate the abortions?
You know I do Sarah they’re super-awful I think!
Yeah, they are.
Yup they sure are.
We have to make them feel the fear, Sarah. We have to make them feel it.
okey dokey nice to meet you
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:30 pmStill remember trying to start my Pinto …Comment by Dmac
The horn on my Pinto spontaneously went off (and stayed on) at about 25 below. It stopped when I finally hit it hard enough to break the horn assembly off of the steering wheel.
We’re supposed to get hit in succession with some snow/sleet/freezing rain/rain/frigid temperatures. I’m hoping for snow. Freezing rain and ice storms are no fun.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:31 pmIf anyone needs me, I’ll be dumping all the carbon I possible can into the air, in the hopes of raising the global temp enough so as to not end up trapped in this wintery hell.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:35 pmHappyFeet
Unlike others, this person,so far, isnt into making the story about her and generally fighting for a cause, however the siren sound of Fox fueled celebrity narcissism has claimed many – that and the all mighty dollar.
EricPWJohnson (72c8f0) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:38 pmBreaking news … Breitbart indicted.
JD (822109) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:42 pmNo dates on when those calls to the local authorities were made relative to the office visits.
PP sounds like it decided to contact Holder’s Department of Social Justice after a pattern became evident, the week after the visits stopped.
If PP did nothing wrong, why did they contact the authorities? If they did do something wrong, are they trying to shift blame to the videographers and show what great warriors against illegal immigrant sex slavery they are right after doling out all that great advice to pimps? Just like the ACORN videos, does not compute or pass the smell test.
Sorry PP, you is busted, wif a great big capital “B.”
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:42 pmAnd I thought it was cold here in So Cal at 61 degrees. Stay warm.
Tanny O'Haley (12193c) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:43 pmNorth of the 45th we’re dodging Stormzilla, with 6 inches of nanoflakes last night and -15 tonight.
We feel your pain tho.
gary gulrud (790d43) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:43 pmMr. Feets – After Sarah was responsible for Bristol getting preggers, at least she did not force her go see someone like Democrat favorite Dr. Kermit Gosnell, so she’s got that going for her.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:46 pmWell, you know what they say, Gary…
Build a man a fire, he’ll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he’ll be warm the rest of his life…
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:47 pmforcing is bad
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:52 pmIf I were a lot younger I would ask that nice Lila Rose out for some tasty vegan pancakes.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:53 pmWell, now we know that AJB is Soros filled if not funded.
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:54 pmTownhall spammed me with the results of their straw poll: Palin 22%, Romney 14%, didn’t bother with the trailers.
gary gulrud (790d43) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:55 pmBah. Too much work, daleyrocks.
I’d rather just get her drunk.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/1/2011 @ 4:55 pmdoes she like butter tarts?
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:00 pmSadly, I had to google “dildo boat breitbart” and was rewarded with a link to Oliver Willis.
carlitos (a3d259) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:02 pmThat’s a reward?
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:07 pmThe [sarcasm] tags work as well as the [strike] tags, I see…
carlitos (a3d259) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:13 pmTime for Palinomics:
What does Carter, Obama, and Sarah have in common?
Windfall profits taxes
Whohooo!
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008103325_alaskatax07.html
EricPWJohnson (72c8f0) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:16 pmThe wife made me go to PP B4 we married to prove my plumbing STD free. Place was crawling with mr. feets’ creeps. Took a shower when I got home.
gary gulrud (790d43) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:17 pm98.Time for Palinomics:
No, time for rectalcephalic infarction.
gary gulrud (790d43) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:21 pmAwesome.
carlitos (a3d259) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:22 pmCan anyone explain what epwj is babbling about, and how Sarah Palin has anything to do with is topic?
JD (d4bbf1) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:25 pmAs far as I can tell, EPWJ has decided to obsessively spam every topic with his crap about Alaskan severance taxes.
Like all of EPWJ’s acts, it got old the hour he started it.
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:28 pmTax me Tax me Sarah!!!!!!!!
SPQR
Facts BABY!
ooof another conservative bashes Palinomics
http://www.rice.edu/energy/personnel/cv/Ken%20Medlock%20CV%20_Academic_%20Oct%202010.pdf
EricPWJohnson (72c8f0) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:35 pmI’m sorry JD, it’s my fault will you forgive me? I brought up Sarah Palin in comment 75 just to pull happyfeets chain. I wasn’t thinking.
I denounce myself.
Tanny O'Haley (12193c) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:36 pmJD
We are going on two assumptions:
1. That everything is Palin’s fault
2. You still frquent and give moneyto a blog that routinely slanders the host here and tried to go after his job as well now?
EricPWJohnson (72c8f0) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:37 pmEPWJ == Clown
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:39 pmI’m totally confuzzled, now. Is this bunnies or squirrels we’re talking about?
elissa (d23327) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:41 pmSquirrels, elissa.
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:41 pmTaney,
Daleyrocks opened the floor earlier 🙂
Now this is where everyone whines incessantly about facts being facts and they need to call names and shout and whine
Much like the liberals – which is interesting
Well I’m off to Abu Dhabi, wish me luck going to Cairo perhaps, was just in Alexandria, wonder if that new mall has been ransacked – on the otherhand they built it miles outside of the city…
Al Jazeera is showing a pic of a missing journalist named mohammed, anyone seen someone named mohammed in Cairo holding a cel phone to please call in
…seriously…
EricPWJohnson (72c8f0) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:44 pmFrom the AP:
“Planned Parenthood insists on the highest standards of care, and safeguards the trusted relationship we have with patients, families and communities,” the statement said. “What appears on edited tapes made public today is not consistent with Planned Parenthood’s practices, and is under review.”
Phyllis Kinsler, chief executive officer of Planned Parenthood of Central New Jersey, added that the clinic employee’s behaviour, as portrayed on the video, “violates PPCNJ policies, as well as our core values of protecting the welfare of minors and complying with the law, and appropriate action is being taken.”
I think we heard similar statements after each ACORN tape was released.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:52 pmActually, I think the statement is identical but for substitutiong “Planned Parenthood” for “ACORN”
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:53 pmEricPWJohnson – perhaps you could make this particular topic a ‘nose off’ moment?
carlitos (a3d259) — 2/1/2011 @ 5:53 pmFirst, you really need to brush up on subject/predicate agreement.
Second, why do you insist on making every thread about Palin? If you want to post stuff about her start your own damned blog. I’m sure you’ll get lots of readers.
Some chump (e84e27) — 2/1/2011 @ 6:00 pmwabbits, we’re talkin’ wabbits!!
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 2/1/2011 @ 6:00 pmhttp://www.hark.com/clips/qxgvtldyjn-wabbit-twacks
http://www.hark.com/clips/qkkgnmzxpx-go-away-boy
for the record, i will be on the radio soon.
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 2/1/2011 @ 6:04 pm“What is one of these, is not like the other, for a 100, Alex” Murkowski interestingly has ties to the
narciso (e888ae) — 2/1/2011 @ 6:13 pmUAE through Akin Gump, which explains a lot.
Since EricPW cannot defend his charges of Palin being a fiscal liberal, he has decided to go obsessively all in on her changes to Alaska’s oil severance taxes. The fact that is back under debate in Alaska is not news. EricPW unquestioning follows the oil company line on the debate. From EricPW’s August 2008 article:
“In Alaska, the willingness of Republicans to tax the oil industry reflects unusual political developments.
Last year, as part of a major federal corruption investigation, an oil-services executive — former VECO Chairman Bill Allen — pleaded guilty to bribing some state legislators as he sought to limit the size of an oil-tax increase approved in 2006.
In the fall primary of 2006, Palin upset Republican incumbent Gov. Frank Murkowski, whom she criticized for giving too much of a break to the oil industry.
Then last year, Palin introduced a graduated tax pegged to increased oil prices. The state Legislature modified her proposal to increase the state’s take even further.
Production falling
The bill’s proponents — a coalition of Democrats and maverick Republicans — argued that oil production was declining in Alaska, and that the lower tax rate under previous governors had done little to spur additional investment in the state’s oil industry.
Critics say the companies, who have lobbied to open the federal Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to exploration, have lagged badly in developing already available fields on state lands. Some estimates indicate those fields may contain billions of barrels of oil, mostly heavy crude that’s difficult to extract.
They argue that the state — which owns most of the land around Prudhoe Bay, North America’s largest oil field — needs to grab its fair share of proceeds from the declining output there.
“You don’t get to grow another oil barrel,” said French, the Anchorage lawmaker. “You sell that barrel once, and it’s gone forever.”
The Alaska tax is imposed on the net profit earned on each barrel of oil pumped from state-owned land, after deducting costs for production and transportation, which are currently estimated at just under $25 a barrel.
The tax is set at its highest rate in Prudhoe Bay, where the state takes 25 percent of the net profit of a barrel when its price is at or below $52.
The percentage then escalates as oil prices rise over that benchmark. Alaska gets about $49 of a $120 barrel, not counting other fees.
ConocoPhillips said that in total, once royalty payments and other taxes are added in, the state captures about 75 percent of the value of a barrel.
An accounting benefit eases the sting for oil companies. They get a huge deduction on their state taxes when calculating their federal taxes.
Companies pull back
Still, oil-industry officials contend the tax already has affected investment decisions.
BP Alaska, which runs Prudhoe Bay, said earlier this year that it had delayed the development in the western region of the North Slope as a result of the tax. ConocoPhillips cited the same reason for scrapping a $300 million refinery project.
“What the tax has done is take away all the upside,” said Doug Suttles, president of BP Alaska. The U.K.-based oil company paid more than $500 million in taxes to Alaska last quarter — far more than it earned in profits from Alaskan oil, according to Suttles.
Investment dollars are flowing instead to places that have a better return, like the massive deep-water projects offshore in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico, where ConocoPhillips said the government take equals less than 50 percent of the barrel.
In July, BP announced it would begin developing the Liberty oil field, a $1.5 billion project expected to yield 100 million barrels of oil, located on federal lands in Alaska. If the project had been located in state lands on the North Slope, “I don’t think we’d have been able to make that investment,” Suttles said.
Alaska state officials say they still do plenty to court the oil industry, such as giving small, independent producers breaks on royalty payments. And the state tax bill includes a generous provision for deducting investments in new fields or other capital costs.
“We think that, hopefully, [the new tax system] will encourage firms to get on the Slope and produce more oil and gas,” said state petroleum economist Cherie Nienhuis.
Prices spur global trend
Alaska’s decision to raise taxes is part of a global trend. Emboldened by high energy prices and the industry’s difficulty in finding giant new oil fields, oil-rich nations from Venezuela to Russia have been raising taxes and royalty payments in recent years.
Even the market-friendly United Kingdom, home to oil giants BP and Royal Dutch Shell, recently has sought to capture a bigger share of revenue from companies operating in the North Sea.
Despite the oil companies’ complaints, many say that as they vie for access to new oil and gas deposits, they have little choice but to accept deals they once might have spurned.
Many Alaskans are happy to have newfound leverage over oil companies in what they see as the state’s last big boom. But others see it as a tricky issue for the state.”
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 6:13 pmlolz, he called you a gentleman. 🙂
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/1/2011 @ 6:14 pmI’m sure someone more creative than I could do something with this link and EPWJ …
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/1/2011 @ 6:33 pmAs always, you nutcases will keep on lying even after you’ve been busted for lying. You just can’t stop! You need to join a 12-step program for addictive right-wing liars.
Here Now (bb0aeb) — 2/1/2011 @ 6:34 pmHush, imbecile. Your act got tired a long time ago.
JD (d4bbf1) — 2/1/2011 @ 6:38 pm“Planned Parenthood reported these incidents to the FBI. Looks like another Breitbart sting has been pwned!”
Here Now – Above is your earlier comment. PP’s own news release said they reported the activity to the DOJ, not the FBI. Live Action conducted the office visits and released the videos. It was not a Breitbart operation. You were incorrect in your entire comment.
What lies are you talking about?
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 7:07 pmThat’s Yelverton level incompetence, “Here now”….
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/1/2011 @ 7:09 pmThe maker of the video is one of Breitbart’s producers and proteges. It’s got his stamp all over it, right down to the lying. You people are such phonies, and when caught you keep lying.
Here Now (bb0aeb) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:03 pmUmmm… Here Now, who do you think made the video?
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:07 pmhere now
by lying, you mean… they went undercover?
Aaron Worthing (73a7ea) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:08 pmUmmm… Here Now, who do you think made the video?
Lila Rose, who has been a videographer for Andrew Breitbart. That video has Breitbart’s stamp all over it, and you nuts are part of the wingnut amen chrous. When caught lying, you just keep lying.
Here Now (bb0aeb) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:23 pmMr. Breitbart has a stamp?
I want a stamp
happyfeet (ab5779) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:25 pmpeople will be all like hey that has happyfeet’s stamp all over it
and I’ll be all like blank yeah it does except I won’t say blank
happyfeet (ab5779) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:27 pmSending videos to Breitbart is not the same as being his videographer.
Also, if you want to f**king insult me, you ignorant pile of s**t, you’re going to need to get my politics right.
I’m a libertarian you retarded, diseased puddle of cocksnot.
Do you have ANY proof that Breitbart was responsible in any way for this video being made?
And by proof, I mean more than your suspicion and innuendo?
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:27 pmHoly Jeebus, Yelverton. Now you are disputing facts that are simply not in dispute. You are trying to make up a reality. It is rather pathetic.
JD (d4bbf1) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:28 pmSending videos to Breitbart is not the same as being his videographer.
Also, if you want to f**king insult me, you ignorant pile of s**t, you’re going to need to get my politics right.
I’m a libertarian you retarded, diseased puddle of c**ksnot.
Do you have ANY proof that Breitbart was responsible in any way for this video being made?
And by proof, I mean more than your suspicion and innuendo?
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:28 pmHmmm. The profanity filter, it is learning. Had to post that one twice…
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:29 pmAnd apparently still didn’t post. This annoys me.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:31 pmA hat tip, William, try not to copy the media matters link, word for word;
narciso (e888ae) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:31 pmProtege? How do I get to be a protege?
Mr. DeMille, I’m ready for my close up.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:31 pmthat’s why you have to say blank Mr. jacobs
happyfeet (ab5779) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:34 pmNarcisco – Willie the racist hilljack is not plagiarizing, again, is he?
JD (d4bbf1) — 2/1/2011 @ 8:54 pmOne recalls that Lila was one of those young conservative activists, that was profiled by that CNN reporter, the one that had the run in, with
narciso (e888ae) — 2/1/2011 @ 9:07 pmO’Keefe.
Bah. Reposted on this. Immediately started to take it down when I realized Aaron had already posted, but Scott Jacobs caught me!
I still took it down. Reposts suck.
Patterico (c218bd) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:11 pmAnd to answer your question, Scott: sometimes when I am in the middle of trial I do miss stuff — even on my own blog.
Bah again.
Patterico (c218bd) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:15 pmI’d have bought that if ya posted closer to the end of the work day. This late at night?
Nope. Mocking in 3… 2… 1… 🙂
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:27 pmPatterico – I don’t think it would have mattered to that PP babe if he was dressed as a pimp. She was all about the service, showing she was cool and dissing her anal nurse colleague, especially after the pimp offered to holla back a little sumpin’ sumpin’ at her.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:31 pmBut nobody was convicted of wrongdoing, so no wrongdoing occurred!!!!!!11ty!!!!!
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:33 pmScott Jacobs:
Unfortunately, my work days are longer these days. That WAS the end of my work day.
Patterico (b0e12d) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:39 pmAnyway my question was: but was he dressed as a pimp?
Paging Brad Friedman…
Patterico (b0e12d) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:40 pmHere, cow. Here, here, hear, cow!
Icy Texan (958677) — 2/1/2011 @ 11:54 pmBraddy is busy dreaming of Clarence Thomas being sent to prison for 20 years for amending his disclosure statements.
Seriously.
Brad needs help.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:21 amhttp://www.pfaw.org/press-releases/2011/02/preposterous-smear-against-planned-parenthood-follows-right-wing-playbook
Planned Parenthood is claiming that his branch reported the visit to the FBI. If true there’s not much to see here.
time (aa4765) — 2/2/2011 @ 5:06 amBut if not, then there is MUCH to see…
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/2/2011 @ 5:14 amtime
mentioned in the post. but you know, acorn said something similar toward the beginning of their scandal. so time will tell.
for now, this woman should be fired.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 2/2/2011 @ 5:52 amNo, Braddy thinks a ex? terrorist is a suitable business partner, he is to be shunned, not pitied.
narciso (e888ae) — 2/2/2011 @ 6:22 amWell, if we’re going to start condemning people for the company they keep…
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/2/2011 @ 6:49 amAaron, true, and I didn’t mean that your post was deceptive or wrong. I just wanted to add the new link to the same information.
But I disagree about firing this woman at once. I just don’t know enough. When I first saw the Shirod video I thought she should be fired. Now I think firing her was a stupid mistake by her boss (Obama).
For instance, if this had been a real criminal I would *want* PP to humor them so that they’ll come back and call the police so that the police will be ready when they do.
If this were real you’d have a situation where underage girls are sick and need medical attention. She needs to get them in to see a doctor. She also needs to alert the authorities about what is happening so that they can arrest the pimp.
But I don’t know. I sure would like to know more, and see the total, unedited, video. I don’t really trust advocacy groups to present information in a fair and impartial way.
time123 (fd0080) — 2/2/2011 @ 8:41 amHit submit too soon.
I do think that the demenor of the woman in the video is odd. She doesn’t seem worried in any way. That just seems off to me.
time123 (fd0080) — 2/2/2011 @ 8:45 amhttp://www.nationalreview.com/corner/258684/back-perth-amboy-kathryn-jean-lopez
narciso (e888ae) — 2/2/2011 @ 8:48 amPlanned Parenthood fired the person in the video.
UPDATE: PLANNED PARENTHOOD EMPLOYEE FIRED OVER FAKE PIMP VID
But of course they still question the “editing” of the video. They are shocked, shocked that this could be going on in one of their abortion mills. Planned Parenthood should not receive tax dollars.
Tanny O'Haley (12193c) — 2/2/2011 @ 8:53 amLila Rose is a loon what gets off on dressing up like sinful white trash and putting a pillow in her shirt and pretending it’s a baby.
It’s all very very questionable and very likely reflective of a mental disorder I think.
Bless her loony heart.
happyfeet (ab5779) — 2/2/2011 @ 8:58 am“I don’t really trust advocacy groups to present information in a fair and impartial way.”
time123 – Then why did you give us a People for the American Way press release?
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 8:59 am“It’s all very very questionable and very likely reflective of a mental disorder I think.”
Mr. Feets – With respect, such thinking says more about you than her. Tasty pancake break time. If everyone you disagree with has a mental disorder, it might be time to seek help. Sort of like the the asshole rule. If you meet more than two assholes in a day, chances are one of them is you.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:03 amThat would be the three asshole rule.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:04 amI don’t think everyone I disagree with has a mental disorder. I don’t think Palin does or Romney or even president bumblef.
but Lila?
Dressing up like a slut and going to an abortion clinic and asking for an abortion in your bestest baby girl voice and then shrieking psych! Lols! on the internets is not something normal well-adjusted girls do.
happyfeet (ab5779) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:10 am“Dressing up like a slut and going to an abortion clinic and asking for an abortion in your bestest baby girl voice and then shrieking psych! Lols! on the internets is not something normal well-adjusted girls do.”
Mr. Feets – Seems like most girls her age dress like sluts more often than not so forget that point. How would you have recommended conducting an undercover video operation? Please edify us.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:15 am#165 LOL
#167 You are still going on and on about Lila. One might take from this continued bashing that you are a) obscessed with her (seek help) or b) really jealous of her for some wierd reason.
This is the second day I have logged in to Patterico’s blog and there you are blathering on about Lila.
Yesterday you tried to get anyone at all to say she is creepy. You mentioned her quite a bit and kept using that word “creepy.”
Today I look in on the crowd at Patterico’s Bar and Pontification Grill and here you are….now you are bashing her for dressing up and catching the “REALLY creepy” HONESTLY super-creepy people who pretend to be doing good but are killing 1.5 million INNOCENTS a year, and now you are selling “this in not something well-adjusted girls do.”
“such thinking says more about you than her…”
Amen.
LeonidasOfSparta (c9c010) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:21 amSo all the old people they use in TV undercover investigations to lure and catch unscrupulous home repair people, and all the police who pretend to be teen girls to catch sexual predators on the web are all psycho/not well adjusted, too, feets? I really don’t think you’re going to gain a lot of traction with that line of argument.
elissa (c3c53b) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:24 amI just think the whole dealio is tacky and weird … and it doesn’t even make sense.
By helping Planned Parenthood stay on their toes Lila helps buttress support for safe legal abortion cause her outrageous over the top tacky behaviour always makes her stingy stingy stings look like freakish aberrant outliers and she just ends up preaching to her fetus-obsessed base.
happyfeet (ab5779) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:26 amHappyfeet, it makes it look like Planned Parenthood is extreme.
Remember, from Lila’s point of view, she is fighting a murderer. Her plan is extreme only if you don’t grant this point. People who think abortion is murder and don’t do anything about it probably make less sense.
I’m not understanding your POV that this helps create support for abortion of any kind. Don’t you wonder how many little girls have been pressured by men to go to Planned Parenthood?
If I were her, I would have toned down the stings, and progressively ramped them up. I’d release the tamest, and release more over a few weeks, as the entire project got more attention.
But she just went for broke, and so what? Here’s a bright young lady peacefully fighting something she finds horrible. She’s using free speech to maximum effect. I don’t see any reason to pretend she’s crazy.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:33 amhappyfeet, I’m getting a vibe off of you based on your reactions to these women you are attacking.
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:34 amSay that to the victims of Kermit Gosnell, supported
narciso (e888ae) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:34 amby not only bumble governor Rendell, but Schweicker
and Ridge, How about Sibelius, who has the power
of life and death, over all of us, till this health
care bill, is finally staked. THey don’t seem interested in ‘safe, legal, and rare,’
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100074374/yippee-ki-yay-liberals-its-sarah-palin-month-on-telegraph-blogs/
narciso (e888ae) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:37 amthat’s awesome SPQR I’m not dressing up and pretending to be a sinful sinful slut though am I?
What Lila does is as misogynist as it gets really. Her image of women is pretty pretty low I think. In Lila’s demented head womens are all victimy sinful sluts what shouldn’t be allowed to make decisions for themselves.
happyfeet (ab5779) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:38 amIf Panned Plarenthood fired Amy Woodruff, the Perth Amboy manager caught in the video, then it is obvious that the lovely Miss Woodruff did not report the incident to either the police, the FBI or the Panned Plarenthood main office. This action, by itself, tells you that the video is genuine.
The Dana with some common sense (3e4784) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:40 amAs Tanny linked: Perth Amboy has been fired, Planned Parenthood calls its behavior shocking, and I’m not hearing the names of these police officers that Perth supposedly contacted.
An Attorney General is hoping to investigate the criminal behavior of Planned Parenthood.
And Planned Parenthood is complaining that the videos were too “cynical”. Like I care.
I’m amused that the left saw this person show no character whatsoever, and still their self interested word for truth regarding police reports.
Lila and O’Keefe are merely pioneers. This kind of journalism is going to become far more common. The MSM embargoes serious journalism against ACORN or Planned Parenthood, and certainly won’t start their own, so the people are empowering themselves.
How long before we get a video of an undercover guy catching overt election fraud by democrats?
Dustin (b54cdc) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:43 amYou know who has a mental disorder, that guy who advocates secret fisting lessons and man/boy gay porn for middle school students. He should be wearing a big flashing PEDO PEDO PEDO sign and not be allowed within 500 yards of a school rather than being granted a position as Safe Schools Czar within Obama’s Administration.
That’s an illustration of where an actual mental disorder can do damage versus someone exercising free speech advocacy.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:44 amUm, Perth Amboy has not been fired. I’m not quite sure how one would go about firing a city. And why Perth would contact police about something that happened in Perth Amboy, I’m not sure. Nor which police Perth would have contacted.
Milhouse (d84b40) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:50 amSo I don’t have a lot of sympathy for Mr. Feets whining that somebody exposing PP’s actual lawbreaking, gumint money suckers that they are, might lead them to clean up their act.
Hey, PP was supposed to report statutory rape? Who knew?
PP was supposed to report child sex trafficking? Who knew?
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:51 amLOL My mistake.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 2/2/2011 @ 9:57 ambtw the lady in the video has been fired. but live action is suggesting they have more.
like patterico suggested, there is a real deja vous about all of this.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 2/2/2011 @ 10:00 amwe’ll have to agree to disagree I think Mr. daley I think she’s a kooky fanatic but then I’m not particularly against abortion so what looks like obsessive behavior to me may make perfect sense to other people
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/2/2011 @ 10:10 amJust assume, in arguendo, that abortion is terrible, and then ‘obsessive behavior’ becomes dedication to social justice.
BTW, if it’s true she’s got more videos, what does it say that she choose to release this one first? What else are we in store for?
Dustin (b54cdc) — 2/2/2011 @ 10:12 amGreat interview by the way, AW, might be an insulin shock from too many cupcakes that makes mad pikachu
narciso (e888ae) — 2/2/2011 @ 10:13 amecho Alternet and other sorosphere portals, then again, daley may be right.
#183 deja vous vu
Milhouse (d84b40) — 2/2/2011 @ 10:15 amDamn, strikethrough seems not to be working. It’s “deja vu”, not “vous”.
Milhouse (d84b40) — 2/2/2011 @ 10:16 amdustin
my guess is that typically the worst one is the first one.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 2/2/2011 @ 10:24 amdustin
but then again, that wasn’t entirely the case with acorn. i mean arguably it was worse when that dude started asking what the girl’s prices were to O’Keefe. you know, out of academic interest, right?
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 2/2/2011 @ 10:25 amWe are already seeing some places make it illegal to video police and government officials without permission. The growth of this kind of sting will probably result in laws to protect all politicians from hidden camera recording. Interesting when the public can’t record their own paid employees corruption.
Machinist (74634b) — 2/2/2011 @ 10:48 amMr. Feets – I thought you were just misogynisticly objecting to Lila’s outfit even though she did not appear in the latest video.
What is the appropriate going to kill a fetus outfit these days?
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 10:53 amoh yes I was talking about her past history of loony behaviour
she’s so zany
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/2/2011 @ 11:03 amWhere is Yelverton now that he has been proven to have been wrong wrong wrong and a liar in his comments from yesterday? Where are yu coward?
JD (d4bbf1) — 2/2/2011 @ 11:11 amNot exactly loony behavior there, happyfeet. Her point is that abortion is an ugly thing, and to make it public would show people how horrible it is.
A little like vegans publicizing videos from slaughterhouses.
It’s an uncomfortable topic to think about, but it’s not loony.
Some chump (4c6c0c) — 2/2/2011 @ 11:12 am“she’s so zany”
Mr. Feets – That you support law breaking by government tit sucking nonprofit organizations in our socialist banana republic paradise and condemn those who expose it is a good thing to know.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 11:19 amwha??? I already said I think Lila does abortion a favor with her antics.
But people should follow the rules I think and Planned Parenthood needs to straighten up and fly right by golly.
And yes I think the family planning budget should be zeroed out – which is different than what Pence wants.
It’s mystifying and pathetic that this bill doesn’t cut spending – what does this Pence douchebag think the 2010 elections were about? It wasn’t a referendum on abortion it was a referendum on spending.
It’s like this dorkus wasn’t even paying attention.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/2/2011 @ 11:27 amHow did we get from the topic of the post to Pence?
Some chump (4c6c0c) — 2/2/2011 @ 11:38 am“But people should follow the rules I think and Planned Parenthood needs to straighten up and fly right by golly.”
Mr. Feets – Wha? Lila Rose slut person pointing this out has a mental disorder is crazy? Wha?
What was your actual point, a fashion criticism?
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 11:40 amWell if the money isn’t spent for that purpose, that’s good right.
narciso (e888ae) — 2/2/2011 @ 11:41 amMr. daley my argument was of an ad hominem variety and it was two-pronged: it consisted of a somewhat but not entirely baseless attack on Lila Rose’s mental faculties as well as a more generalized characterization of her as a dimbulb wackadoodle.
That is my argument and absolutely no evidence has been adduced so far to sway my thinkings in this matter in the slightest.
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/2/2011 @ 11:49 amHow are those two different prongs?
It’s clear you don’t like Lila Rose (happyfeet not liking a conservative woman quel suprise!). But she’s not stupid, and she’s not crazy, despite your impression that she is.
Some chump (4c6c0c) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:03 pmevidence please
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:17 pmYes, feets, please provide proof of Lila Rose’s mental problems and why you think she is a “dimbulb wackadoodle”. So far you haven’t been persuasive. Just because you think so, doesn’t count.
Tanny O'Haley (12193c) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:26 pm“Mr. daley my argument was of an ad hominem variety and it was two-pronged: it consisted of a somewhat but not entirely baseless attack on Lila Rose’s mental faculties as well as a more generalized characterization of her as a dimbulb wackadoodle.”
Mr. Feets – I was thinking it might have been along those lines. Thanks.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:31 pmOK, so the lovely Miss Woodruff is now eligible to collect unemployment compensation, and Live Action claims to have more such videos; wonder who will be joining Miss Woodruff on the unemployment line?
My question is: just how many “rogue” employees does Planned Parenthood have to have before it ceases being rogue employees and starts being indicative of corporate policy?
I would have thought, naif that I am, that after the first set of tapes, the corporate bosses would have made it clear: if someone presents himself as a pimp, and talks about underaged girls, this could well be a set-up, and you should follow the letter of the law precisely, as well as notifying both police (in case it’s not a fake) and corporate.
Of course, being naïve, I’d have thought that corporate would have made it clear: you follow the letter of the law in every situation. Is it possible, just possible, that this wasn’t really an aberration, a rogue employee, but Miss Woodruff was actually within corporate policy?
The naïve Dana (3e4784) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:31 pmSo happyfeet, your opinions require no evidence (I noticed that you seem to almost understand the term “misogynist” …) but others do.
SPQR (26be8b) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:34 pmHalf of society LIKES the idea of being able to cut their young offspring into bloody ribbons when it’s convenient for them to do so, just like half of society not long ago thought that owning human slaves was a great idea.
With all due respect, I don’t know why it surprises you all that much.
As for the video itself, wow. What horrific evil, cheerfully delivered, even advising how these young underage prostitutes can keep on giving blow jobs, or attracting business for the other underage sex slaves.
Her advice to them about not saying anything Planned Parenthood would be required to report to was a nice added touch. Hey, I just thought of something. Do you think she heard anything she might be legally required to report?
As the office manager, her calling her own, slightly more moral (slightly — she was still assisting with the whole mass abortion thing) nurse practitioner a c*unt and saying everyone hates her to the nurse practitioner’s future patients was a nice touch.
This, people, is what evil looks like: Often very smiling and pleasant.
And tolerated, even lauded, in society.
Christoph (8ec277) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:34 pmyes Mr. daley hey my Chicago friend sends along this cool picture of the snowflake attack
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:35 pmThat is the remarkable thing, Dana, makes me think they just don’t care about the rules, or the law.
narciso (e888ae) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:35 pmLila just on CNN, PP spokesweasel coming up next.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:40 pmPP refused to appear with Lila.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:41 pmMr. Feets – I am hiding indoors from the attacking snowflakes today.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:42 pmHear, hear.
While everything in this video is is horrific in the extreme, and shows Planned Parenthood’s local office manager aiding in and furthering in criminal child sex prostitution and slavery, DRJ puts her finger squarely in the truly massive evil at its core.
Further, seeing the evil — the pleasant, smiling evil — in this video, she quite rightly points out that it is people like this (and millions of others), who caused this … I was about to say, tragedy.
No, slaughter. Of innocents. To use an anology, SOME of the casualties in WW2, whether combatant, civilian, or concentration camp inmate probably were guilty of something or other in their lives, something big even in some cases.
Not one of the 50 million victims of abortion ever was guilty of anything. (Only their parents, and their doctors, and their “office managers” … and the society that did not stop this.)
Christoph (8ec277) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:46 pmok but be vigilant they work as a team
happyfeet (a55ba0) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:46 pmDana,
For years Lila Rose has been presenting herself to be a 13 year old who is pregnant by her 21 year old boy friend to Planned Parenthood. I do not believe that PP has every reported the boyfriend for rape. Actually, they have told Lila Rose how to hide the information so her boyfriend won’t get in trouble.
Yet the MSM doesn’t seem to want to report any of the stings. What is wrong with these people who seem to think that it is okay for a 21 year old to have sex with a 13 year old? Teachers who do this get jail time.
Tanny O'Haley (12193c) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:46 pm“ok but be vigilant they work as a team”
If I close the curtain, they can’t see me.
Plus, if I turn up the heat really high, I figure my survival chances go up even if a flurry of them sneaks in.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:51 pmIn response to CNN reporter question about other LiveAction office visits PP said they had not fired anyone else yet, that this was the only video they had seen.
Like ACORN, they have no clue what is going on. If they are making a big deal about alerting the authorities, they should have interviewed everyone involved at this point.
Pass the popcorn.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 12:54 pmCreepy, zany, demented, loony, dimbulb wackadoodle. Nice to see happyfeet trot out the thesaurus to describe this one little girl just trying to make her way in the world.
Birdbath (8501d4) — 2/2/2011 @ 1:26 pmI question the timing of this story, but you have to wonder what the guy was thinking. This was a pro-life priest who told Sean Hannity that he wouldn’t give him communion because Hannity thinks birth control is ok. Hannity replied “let he who is without sin.” Ironic.
Controversy Remains After Priest’s Confession Of Sex During Exorcism
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-bianchini/controversy-remains-after_b_817613.html
Paattrico, your blog reaaaaally hates internet explorer on Windows lately.
carlitos (09dd72) — 2/2/2011 @ 1:26 pmTo clarify, a really ardent, publically vocal pro-life priest. Looks reduntant in my post.
carlitos (09dd72) — 2/2/2011 @ 1:28 pm“UPDATE: PLANNED PARENTHOOD EMPLOYEE FIRED OVER FAKE PIMP VID”
Media Matterz and Think Regress hardest hit for the illegal immigrant sex slave chirren.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/2/2011 @ 2:00 pmRe #206 They’d have to go deep undercover. Get hired for Miss Woodruff’s job, then record the orientation where the company suggests this sort of treatment for illegal alien sex traffic.
papertiger (8eab0b) — 2/2/2011 @ 5:16 pmIf this is true, I demand that someone make the introductions.
Aaron, Patrick, you know people… Make my dreams come true. 🙂
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/2/2011 @ 6:27 pmMr Jacobs wrote:
My, how your standards have fallen. 🙁
The Army daddy Dana (3e4784) — 2/3/2011 @ 5:26 ampapertiger suggested:
That probably wouldn’t work. I’d guess that, if such actually were corporate policy, it would be done with a wink and a nod. I’d bet Scott Jacobs’ last euro that there is a Planned Parenthood Policy Manual which states, clearly and unambiguously, that all Planned Parenthood offices will follow the law to the letter.
The realistic Dana (3e4784) — 2/3/2011 @ 5:31 amBuddy, you’ve had like a YEAR for your daughter to call me.
Not even an e-mail.
Don’t you start with me. 🙂
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/3/2011 @ 11:32 amAt least we can all agree that victims of trafficking should be able to get access to free or low cost abortion services, on demand and without apology.
savoirfaire (21f6a6) — 2/3/2011 @ 11:34 ambtw, for the record, there has been another video. this time in virginia. i have a new thread on it.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 2/3/2011 @ 11:38 am“At least we can all agree that victims of trafficking should be able to get access to free or low cost abortion services, on demand and without apology.”
savoirfaire – So do you recommend turning the victims of trafficking back over to their pimps without apology after they have obtained their free or low cost STD or reproductive health services?
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/3/2011 @ 11:46 amI recommend they get access to green cards and social services. This way they can escape their oppression. This sort of compassion likely won’t fly, and some people might just be satisfied with shutting down planned parenthood. You know, cuz we’re concerned for the trafficking victims.
savoirfaire (1b8bee) — 2/3/2011 @ 11:57 amHow about we just insist (through the use of criminal prosecution) that all businesses observe the laws of the land in all of their transactions?
Oh, wait, my meds are kicking in, and my delusional state is being dealt with.
AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 2/3/2011 @ 12:02 pmOPEN BORDERS would make problems like this go away.
JD (b98cae) — 2/3/2011 @ 12:05 pmAD – Gotta watch those meds. Obviously not all businesses have to obey the law according to savoirfaire. Just the ones progressives do not like have to. Those you regulate and tax the crap out of.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/3/2011 @ 12:07 pmJD – GET OFF MY UTERUS!!!!
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/3/2011 @ 12:08 pmOPEN BORDERS???
AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92) — 2/3/2011 @ 12:09 pmI heard Borders were peering into the abyss of BK.
savoirfaire – At least you agree, age is just a number.
daleyrocks (479a30) — 2/3/2011 @ 12:10 pm