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1/11/2011

On Petard Hoisted: Sheriff Dupnick’s Hypocrisy on Inflammatory Rhetoric

Filed under: General — Aaron Worthing @ 11:29 am



[Guest post by Aaron Worthing; if you have tips, please send them here.]

Maybe this belongs in my post on hypocrisy generally, but given what a media whore this Sherriff has been, I think he deserves a post all too himself:

Sheriff Who Suggested Talk Shows Incited Attack Was Asked by Dems to Apologize for ‘Inflammatory’ Immigration Remarks

Arizona’s Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, who on Saturday suggested radio and television talk shows were somehow responsible for inciting a man who may be mentally disturbed to kill six people and wound 13 others, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), once blamed policymakers for violence in his county because they had stopped institutionalizing mentally ill people.

Dupnik also suggested that local schools should check the immigration status of students and that many of the social problems in his county were attributable to illegal immigration–remarks that some fellow Democrats cited as “inflammatory” while demanding an apology from the sheriff.

Additionally, Dupnik once told residents in part of his county to buy guns to protect themselves because he did not believe his department, given its limited resources, could adequately do the job themselves.

As they say, read the whole thing.  By the way, Sheriff instead of spending every waking hour engaged in your media whore behavior and wagging your finger at Rush Limbaugh and the like, how about you do your fucking job and catch some criminals?

Seriously, is this guy like the long-lost brother of Mayor Bloomberg or something?

[Posted and authored by Aaron Worthing.]

32 Responses to “On Petard Hoisted: Sheriff Dupnick’s Hypocrisy on Inflammatory Rhetoric”

  1. This sheriff may well have brought some liability on his own dept. and their community if he was *ever* aware that the psycho was inclined to be a psycho – in which case – beyond the political pandering & obama-strategy of divide & conquer – he may be playing CYA here as well.

    Steven W. (95b19f)

  2. A.W. – I think that petard entered the Sheriff’s butt and came out the top of his head. Suh-weet!

    daleyrocks (e7bc4f)

  3. steven

    well, i will note that many states excercise sovereign immunity, meaning that no liability is possible.

    but he could still lose his job over this.

    plus obviously he is a media whore. someone said he was the worst law enforcement official since chief moose, which is totally unfair. moose was not nearly that much of a tool.

    Aaron Worthing (e7d72e)

  4. I think he represents his district very well inasmuch as they voted for an obamacare-loving dirty socialist.

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  5. Dupnik ca. April, 2009:

    “Fewer illegal immigrants, he [Dupnik] said,” the Daily Star reported, “would help reduce crime and other social problems because most of the social problems that plague Pima County originate on the South and Southwest sides, where many illegal immigrants reside.”

    On May 4, 2009, a group of local Democratic elected officials, led by Rep. Grijalva, sent a letter to fellow Democrat Dupnik calling on him to apologize for his remarks…

    Dupnik ca. August 2010

    Crime is down across Arizona and it is bigoted to suggest that there is a problem with border security.

    This may be the first known example of a Strongly Worded Letter getting results!

    Blue Ox (ff919a)

  6. Hello, Pima County? Perhaps you should be looking into those recall rules.

    This clown is a disgrace. We know nothing of the investigation. NADA. Yet, the most dangerous place to be in our nation today is between Dupnik and a tv camera.

    retire05 (e0b7e7)

  7. #2, A petard is a bomb; it can’t “enter the Sheriff’s butt and come out the top of his head”. What it can do is hoist someone up in the air. In several pieces.

    Milhouse (79943d)

  8. I’m curious what federal officials Sheriff Dupnik has talked to since Saturday. I assume he talked to FBI Director Mueller since they appeared in a press conference together on Sunday. Here is an excerpt from Mueller’s press release on the shooting, which is very different from Dupnik’s inflammatory and politicized comments:

    Federal agents and deputy sheriffs are working around the clock to learn as much as possible, gather the facts, and determine why someone would commit such a heinous act and whether anyone else was involved.

    While we do not yet have all of the answers to the questions, I can assure you that teams of professionals are working toward a single goal: to piece together the facts, answer those questions, and ensure justice is served.

    We are working closely with the Pima County Sheriff’s Office, the U.S. Marshal’s Service, the U.S. Capitol Police, and others in this ongoing investigation.

    Given this tragedy, all logical precautions are in place to best ensure the safety of other public officials—but there is no information at this time to suggest any specific threat remains.

    For those on the ground and for all of us, the work goes on, and we will continue to dedicate all necessary resources at every level to this investigation—to do everything we can to ensure that our elected officials and the citizens we serve are safe.

    I’d like to know what Mueller thinks of Dupnik’s performance as a law enforcement officer investigating these crimes.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  9. Quick question for AW and any other legal eagles here: can the parents/families of the slain sue the police district and the chief for malpractice, if the investigation concludes they were severely derelict in their duties? Getting this assclown on the witness stand would be his just desserts.

    Dmac (498ece)

  10. “#2, A petard is a bomb; it can’t “enter the Sheriff’s butt and come out the top of his head”.”

    Milhouse – Sure it can if you stick it up his butt and it explodes out the top of his head. I do appreciate your efforts at pedantry though.

    daleyrocks (e7bc4f)

  11. dmac

    probably not.

    daley

    can i tell the truth. i have no idea what a petard is. i just know it is a cliche for having the tables turned on you. lol

    but if it is a bomb, of course it can enter his butt and go out the top of his head. you just have to push it really, really hard.

    oh, there i go with that violent, horrible rhetoric again.

    Aaron Worthing (e7d72e)

  12. “but if it is a bomb, of course it can enter his butt and go out the top of his head. you just have to push it really, really hard.”

    A.W. – Shaped charge for breaching gates, doors, etc. was the original use. These days the shaped charges we use have some pretty amazing capabilities. The turning the tables usage is what evolved.

    daleyrocks (e7bc4f)

  13. Dmac,

    My guess is his parents knew more than anyone about their son’s problems, which undercuts their ability to successfully sue anyone (let alone a government entity that presumably has governmental immunity). We may learn more in the criminal trial or in civil suits against Jared and, if there is evidence they knew Jared was a danger to himself or others, his family.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  14. Comment by retire05 — 1/11/2011 @ 1:09 pm

    We could retire the National Debt with the handle on a foot-race between Dupnik and Schummer to a microphone.

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  15. Aaron, Daley, the expression is “hoist by his own petard”, meaning that his own bomb blew up while he was still holding it, and hoist him up in the air. This is what the Israelis refer to as a “work accident”, when it happens — as it does regularly — to Arab terrorists.

    Milhouse (79943d)

  16. What is the civil liability of the parents for not instituting their son, and allowing him to remain at-large and constitute a danger to the community?

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  17. Comment by Milhouse — 1/11/2011 @ 2:17 pm

    Bill Ayers is quite familiar with this scenario.

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  18. My guess is his parents knew more than anyone about their son’s problems, which undercuts their ability to successfully sue anyone

    I should have been clearer in my post, DRJ – his parents are a minor concern in relation to the shooter’s victims, who I was primarily focused on at this point.

    Dmac (498ece)

  19. I should have added “are of a minor concern to me.”

    Dmac (498ece)

  20. “Aaron, Daley, the expression is “hoist by his own petard”, meaning that his own bomb blew up while he was still holding it, and hoist him up in the air”

    Milhouse – I was think more of the enema version, like the cavity bomb the splodeydope tried in Yemen, but a shaped charge. A cell phone bomb to the head was something the Israelis invented, I believe. That also has its attractions in certain circumstances.

    daleyrocks (e7bc4f)

  21. Wikipedia has the same definition of petard as daley, milhouse, etc., and references Shakespiere in making the phrase popular.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petard

    I had thought a petard was some kind of medievel spear or long-handled battle axe, now I’m educated. I guess the idea of being hoisted comes from being tossed into the air when the bomb goes off. Bill Ayers might be able to tell us more.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  22. I guess the idea of being hoisted comes from being tossed into the air when the bomb goes off.

    Actually, I think it’s because they would light the bomb in a trench and then swing it out of the trench onto a gate or door suspended on beams. If the engineer who lit the bomb was not careful, he might be swing up with his bomb, and blown up.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  23. Dmac,

    You clearly said families of the “slain” and I stupidly substituted Loughner’s family for that. Mea culpa. Regarding the victims and their families, nothing stops them from suing but governmental immunity could keep them from recovering. However, there are ways to use the courts and government agencies to get information, and I suspect the local media will also seek out information about Loughner’s run-ins with the law. I expect a lot of this information will ultimately be available but they are more likely to impact state legislators and legislation or local politicians and policies.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  24. you guys are worrying waaaay too much about the proper use of the term “petard.”

    Aaron Worthing (73a7ea)

  25. Arizona Republic tells the sheriff to STFU. Perhaps we will be seeing and hearing less of him now.

    http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/2011/01/11/20110111tue1-11.html

    elissa (1c8564)

  26. @24

    How about we hosit him on his own Peppard, then? Lock Mr. T in a tool shed or something, I’m sure he can rig something up.

    I love it when a plan comes together.

    malclave (4f3ec1)

  27. elissa, ABC reported that Obama phoned Dupnik, and released a statement noting he thanks the sheriff for his response to this shooting.

    Which is hilarious in how the White House presumes people won’t see through their efforts to be ‘above the fray’ while lionizing the worst. They might as well make Dupnik their next FCC Czar.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  28. Barry has excellent political instincts and his finger right on the pulse of America at all times, doesn’t he, Dustin?

    elissa (1c8564)

  29. Here’s a question: it seems to me that Dupnik is tainting the prosecution of Loughner. Loughner now has the same attorney that defended Ted Kaczynski, Zackarias Mousoui (sp?)and aided in the defense of Timothy McVeigh. She is a top notch criminal defense attorney and don’t think she is not going to use the statements made by Dupnik that his indicated that his investigation revealed that Loughner was affected by political talk on the right and that is why he wanted to assassinate Congresswoman Gifford.

    Since the State Attorney General has a say in the affairs of a sheriff, and is the highest law enforcement officer in the state, why don’t they shut Dupnik down?

    retire05 (e0b7e7)

  30. I can’t wait till Patterico gets his FOI requests!

    Patricia (3aa1fd)

  31. retire05 – Funny thing, seems a lot of folks in the media are skipping over Clark’s connection to Tim McVeigh.

    daleyrocks (e7bc4f)

  32. ABC reported that Obama phoned Dupnik, and released a statement noting he thanks the sheriff for his response to this shooting.

    And yet the cops who were responding to a call about a break-in “acted stupidly”.

    She is a top notch criminal defense attorney and don’t think she is not going to use the statements made by Dupnik that his indicated that his investigation revealed that Loughner was affected by political talk on the right and that is why he wanted to assassinate Congresswoman Gifford.

    Since he’s thus only being held on a Federal Criminal Complaint, the local bulls**t likely won’t mean much. The Fed trial will be moved anyways, what with one of the people he killed being the guy that runs the Federal Courts there. I’m not even sure it would stay in the Ninth Circuit.

    Scott Jacobs (d027b8)


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