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12/28/2010

Wired gets tired of Glenn Greenwald (Updated)

Filed under: General — Karl @ 8:22 pm



[Posted by Karl]

More to the point, Wired gets even in a two-part article by EIC Evan Hansen and Senior Editor Kevin Poulsen.  The latter writes:

On Monday, Salon.com columnist Glenn Greenwald unleashed a stunning attack on this publication, and me in particular, over our groundbreaking coverage of WikiLeaks and the ongoing prosecution of the man suspected of being the organization’s most important source. Greenwald’s piece is a breathtaking mix of sophistry, hypocrisy and journalistic laziness.

That’s the tip of an iceberg that includes an undisclosed conflict of interest and more than one major factual error.  But is it breathtaking?  Perhaps the folks at Wired never noticed until now that inaccuracy, sophistryhypocrisy, free-floating rage and undisclosed conflicts are Greenwald features, not bugs.

Significantly, Hansen and Poulsen include Salon in their critique.  Granted, if Salon was serious about maintaining some minimum level of integrity, they wouldn’t have brought Greenwald on board in February 2007, as he had already been exposed as a egomaniacal sock-puppeteer.  It is nevertheless a timely reminder of that lack of standards on the part of both Greenwald and Salon.

P.S. — Remember, it’s only conservative media that makes things up. The establishment media told you so.

Update: Greenwald responds, displaying most of the qualities Wired listed in their reply. For example, Wired noted that one of Greenwald’s columns was based on a NYT story that was incorrect on a key point — and obviously so to anyone who bothered to read Wired’s reporting.  Greenwald’s latest reply ignores this.  Wired noted that Greenwald initially failed to disclose that he was trying to secure an attorney for Bradley Manning.  Greenwald’s response is that he eventually disclosed it, when he started trying to raise defense funds for Bradley Manning. Better late than never — and twice as funny, given that one of Greenwald’s big complaints is that Wired’s Poulsen is too close to his source.  Regarding a litany of other inaccuracies, Greenwald’s response is essentially that he relied on other reports (as he did with the incorrect NYT story).  Yep, tough to see how Wired could call that journalistic laziness.  Greenwald’s main effort here appears to have been e-mailing Polusen — and expecting a response — on Christmas.  You see, it’s Poulsen’s fault that he did not see the warning in Greenwald’s Twitter feed on Christmas Eve.  The one useful point Greenwald makes is that people at Wired took him seriously before their own ox was gored, which was the subtext of my snarky postscript.

Update x2: Foreign Policy’s Blake Hounsell writes, “What still remains a mystery to me is what, exactly, Greenwald thinks is being covered up here.”  That earned him a Greenwaldian response via Twitter, in which GG explains he’s just interested in the truth (having just written at length about his ongoing support for Manning and repeated attacks on Wired’s big source).

–Karl

40 Responses to “Wired gets tired of Glenn Greenwald (Updated)”

  1. For your information, Mr. Greenwald has written a New York Times bestselling book on executive authority, broken a story on his blog about wiretapping that led to front-page stories on most major newspapers in the country, and Russ Feingold read from his blog.

    Glenn's #1 fan (a059d0)

  2. Good day sir!

    Rick Ellensberg (b34c8e)

  3. Karl, “wouldn’t not”? Were you in too much of a hurry?

    {o.o}

    jdow (98e9d7)

  4. jdow,

    Fixed, and yes.

    Karl (928df3)

  5. That one should leave a mark, but for the fact that the gleeenwalds of the world are dishonest little people that prefer to push their ideological agenda than to be simply honest.

    JD (07faa1)

  6. “Greenwald’s piece is a breathtaking mix of sophistry, hypocrisy and journalistic laziness.”

    And, in other breaking news, it has been discovered that the Pope is a Catholic!

    Dave Surls (586b60)

  7. Was it really almost four years ago that we were introduced to Greenwald’s drawer of sock puppets? Where does the time go?

    JVW (4463d3)

  8. Same place old socks go…
    the trash can, never to be recovered.

    AD-RtR/OS! (e0a090)

  9. Wow, I misread the time-line above. Turns out that it was summer of 2006 when our host exposed Greenwald’s mendacity with alter egos. We’re heading towards five years ago. Makes me feel really really old.

    JVW (4463d3)

  10. Greenwald jumped the shark the minute his sockpuppetry was exposed. That anyone still takes the moron seriously says more about the deterioration of standards in the media than anything else.

    Estragon (ec6a4b)

  11. Greenwald’s been doing more lately to expose collusion between the government and the press. Aren’t you small government conservative rebels supposed to like that sort of thing?

    AJB (d64738)

  12. Greenwald is a defender of hamas, his law partner Durkin, defended Gitmo detainees, he defended a Nazi
    preacher wannabe Hale, which turned out to be a murderer, his judgement is none too swift

    narciso (6075d0)

  13. AJB, Greenwald, Ellerberg, et al know a lot about collusion.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  14. AJB,

    Please.

    Karl (928df3)

  15. Yelverton never tires of making an ass of himself. Someone should send the wuzzadem and Patterico links to Wired in re the sockpuppetry, a concept that Yelverton learned from the gleeeeeeeeens.

    JD (b98cae)

  16. Salon is an embarassing SF hippie time-stasis field where chai-sipping soi-disant intellectuals gather to celebrate their worthless English Lit degrees, compete to prove their allegiance to lefty apothegms, and praise scatterbrain burnouts like Anne Lamott. It is also home to the World’s Most Predictable Comic Strip: Tom Tomorrow.

    gp (72be5d)

  17. I happen to know Mr. Greenwald personally, and know him to be the only truth – teller left in the entire media universe.

    Thomas Ellers (498ece)

  18. I heartily concur!

    Gleen's Cabana Boy (498ece)

  19. Well that’s part of the story, but remember it’s where Tapper came from, as well as Boehlert of Media Matters, it’s a faithful perveyor of what ever lie the Journolist wants to present; it’s not
    as bad as the Huff Po in overall reach

    narciso (6075d0)

  20. If Greenwad gets one thing right in every hundred tries, AJB calls it a win. Kinda like a kids trophy just for participating.

    Icy Texan (26f046)

  21. Greenwald writes and acts like a weasel on crack.

    He probably still believes the U.S. invaded Iran multiple times and that there was no evidence of Iranian interference in Iraq as he was writing just a few years ago.

    He beclowned himself in writing about Haditha.

    CNN made the mistake of putting him on the air last night. I think it will be a while before that happens again.

    daleyrocks (a82d72)

  22. Has Greenwald published the transcripts of his conversations with Manning and Assange? If not, why not? Where is Greenwald’s transparency? What is he hiding? We need to know the TRUTH!!!!

    daleyrocks (a82d72)

  23. “What do you think comrade Greenwald?” – “Whatever you want me to think comrade Stalin”

    Rupert (ca6b2f)

  24. I love drive-by douchebags.

    JD (07faa1)

  25. Yeah, if the dude from Foreign Policy had only visited that website, it would all be so clear. Except for the underlying ethical issues GG ignores.

    Karl (928df3)

  26. I can’t keep track. Is Greenwald a hero or a villain?

    Rupert (ca6b2f)

  27. The gleeeeeeeeeens minions are out, Karl.

    JD (07faa1)

  28. 27. I can’t keep track. Is Greenwald a hero or a villain?
    Comment by Rupert — 12/29/2010 @ 9:10 pm

    — He’s a little of both: hero + in.

    Icy Texan (26f046)

  29. Update, Greenwald still a nutjob hack who has no business telling other people how real journalists should act.

    daleyrocks (a82d72)

  30. The fact people don’t get Glenn Greenwald is a loss for humanity. It will all be over soon though as the marching morons continue down the path of Brave New World and 1984 simultaneously. Yay us!

    Morons (ef74e3)

  31. 32…Well, the “handle” says it all.

    AD-RtR/OS! (b6ebc8)

  32. “Morons” just wanted to be included in the parade of idiotic sycophants that have come by to defend the King of the Sockpuppets.

    JD (109425)

  33. Unfortunately, Moron will be the first casualty of the Brave New World.

    vote for pedro (e7577d)

  34. Unfortunately.

    vote for pedro (e7577d)

  35. From the Tree of Knowledge I stepped on the branch of stupidity to lower it so you would have enough low hanging fruit to pluck since your intelligence doesn’t go high enough to allow you to debate real substance.

    Morons (ef74e3)

  36. More like you fell from the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down.

    vote for pedro (e7577d)

  37. And now it seems determined to prove it is a douchenozzle, rather than allowing us to simple believe it is a douchenozzle.

    JD (822109)

  38. Comment by vote for pedro — 1/1/2011 @ 4:13 pm

    …and did a face-plant on the “ugly stump”.

    AD-RtR/OS! (b6ebc8)

  39. You 3 remind me of Frito from Idiocracy. Let me try and demonstrate you how you sound.

    Frito: I’ll base your ass on my fist… face… ass. Shutup!

    I doubt you understand what I’m talking about, even if you seen the movie, cause… well… here you are seven comments later still thinking that insulting someone on the internet actually adds inches to your dick or points to your IQ or anything really. but you keep proving how smart you are by thinking you can insult for the win to prove your superiority.

    Morons (ef74e3)

  40. Projection on a magnitude like that, especially while naming itself “morons” never fails to amuse.

    JD (07faa1)


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