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12/11/2010

Obama Abandons Presidency to Bill Clinton

Filed under: General,Obama — Patterico @ 7:16 am



If only it were really true. Which, it’s weird to say that, isn’t it? But he would be better, wouldn’t he?

This is amazing. Clicking on the amusing image below will take you to Real Clear Politics, where you can view the spectacle of President Obama high-tailing it out of a press conference on tax cuts to attend a Christmas party — leaving Bill Clinton to be the grown-up in the room fielding questions from the press.

Allahpundit: “[H]aving Clinton back at the White House podium fielding questions on the hottest domestic issue of the day shoots past deja vu and lands firmly in ‘am I hallucinating?’ territory.”

Michael Goldfarb: “Finally, America has a black President again.”

Jim Treacher: “Say what you want about Sarah Palin quitting her job, but at least she finished her own press conference.”

iowahawk: “Ending weeks of speculation and rumors, President-Elect Barack Obama today named Bill Clinton to join his incoming administration as President of the United States, where he will head the federal government’s executive branch.”

P.S. Recall that this is not the first time Obama has run off from an important state function to hang with the family. Remember what he did to Netanyahu?

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115 Responses to “Obama Abandons Presidency to Bill Clinton”

  1. I think we just saw Obama quit. Officially, that is. He’s been trying to drops hints for nearly a year, I think.

    But thank God that buffoon chimp Bushitler isn’t in the White House to make us the laughingstock of bad guys around the world!

    no one you know (325a59)

  2. At least Obama wasn’t dashing off to make another tee time.

    It was suhweeet, though, to see Bubba defend drops in tax rates from those off his era to those of the Bush era. I thought liberals thought lower taxes were bad.

    daleyrocks (c07dfa)

  3. I think we just saw Obama quit. Officially, that is. He’s been trying to drop hints for nearly a year, I think.

    But thank God we don’t have that chimp Bush in the White House to make us the laughingstock of serious people and bad guys around the world!

    no one you know (325a59)

  4. After seeing that vid at least twice last evening, I still can’t believe what I just saw. Even Nixon and Carter never pulled this kind of stunt, and the utter fecklessness of this man continues to amaze – if he doesn’t want the job or knows he can’t measure up to it, then please do us all a favor and resign. This is the man who’s our Commander in Chief?

    Davey teh Gay (498ece)

  5. Check that – meant Commander – in – Brief.

    Davey teh Gay (498ece)

  6. Please delete those last two – my fault.

    Dmac (498ece)

  7. I really hate that filter. *Richard Attenborough chin-in-hands sigh from Jurassic Park*

    no one you know (325a59)

  8. Commander Kick Azz has been getting his butt kicked lately and you know what that means. Time for another trip or vacation.

    daleyrocks (c07dfa)

  9. Inquiring minds want to know, did Bubba nail any interns after the press conference?

    daleyrocks (c07dfa)

  10. What you guys didn’t know is that there was an intern hidden in that podium. So as he stood in front of the podium…

    Aaron Worthing (b8e056)

  11. “Ending weeks of speculation and rumors, President-Elect Barack Obama today named Bill Clinton to join his incoming administration as President of the United States, where he will head the federal government’s executive branch.”

    Thank you Iowahawk. Ha, ha, ha!

    Arizona Bob (e8af2b)

  12. ________________________________________

    But he would be better, wouldn’t he?

    He (and his wife, for that matter) is like a liberal version of Christine O’Donnell. The word “grifter” comes to mind. So from a purely symbolic standpoint I’d say, no, having such a scroungy dude back in the White House wouldn’t be better. However, Obama is more innately leftwing than Clinton. Therefore, I don’t think Hillary’s husband would have sat in a church for 20 years listening to “Goddamn America” rhetoric from the pulpit.

    Nonetheless, Clinton was labeled by some as “America’s first black president.” A perfect example of why mindless liberalism and tendencies to be nonchalantly corrupt and flaky can easily run rampant in various communities (eg, inner-city America) or countries (eg, the debacle of nations like Rhodesia).

    Mark (3e3a7c)

  13. Somehow, Teh One managed to make himself look like an even smaller person than we thought him to be. At this point, he can only aspire to be feckless.

    JD (109425)

  14. Clinton, was the original Danny Ocean, as smooth as
    Clooney’s character, with just a trace of the oilyness found in most candidate, they tried to
    reboot the JFK formula in ’92, with predictable results, remember he wanted to impose higher CAFE
    standards, a gas tax, signed the CRA revisions, was
    keenly indifferent to covert actions, and major military operations,

    narciso (6075d0)

  15. Obama clearly is not interested in doing the job. Not much of a surprise really, given how he’s not much for actually finishing things. I think we need to start taking bets on whether or not Obama decides to resign before the end of his term.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  16. I keep thinking of the Seinfeld episode where George realizes that people will think he’s funnier if he leaves on a high note.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O27RzZEOkeA

    Another Chris (2e9afa)

  17. I think we need to start taking bets on whether or not Obama decides to resign before the end of his term.

    Comment by SPQR

    I agree with SPQR that Obama does not want to do his job. We’ve seen a lot of signs of it, but leaving his hard won podium to Clinton is really obvious.

    I don’t think he will resign, but he may run his 2012 campaign in the anemic manner 2008 Mccain did (many wondered if Mccain really wanted to win). If Obama doesn’t really want to win 4 more years of hard responsibilities, it will really show. His current job demands he meet with people constantly, make hard decisions every few hours, and face constant criticism, and Obama obviously didn’t mean to sign up for all that.

    The Emperor (b54cdc)

  18. Another Chris, that’s a very funny comparison.

    It’s hard to figure out what the hell he was thinking.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  19. HE likes campaigning, people. Adoring crowds, fawning press, racist evil opponents. It is what happens after the election that he does not care for.

    JD (109425)

  20. can i tell the truth. joking aside, i am not getting the scandal here. Its like he let bubba take over from robert gibbs. we don’t say robert gibbs is defacto president when he answers questions that the president doesn’t feel like answering himself. I mean its all like a “can i finish my waffle” moment.

    i am just having trouble understanding what the big deal is here.

    Aaron Worthing (b8e056)

  21. I know what you are saying, Aaron. But Clinton does not work for Obama. Leaving Clinton alone in the White House press room isn’t a bright thing to do, it shows once again that Obama really does not have a clue about how to use the “bully pulpit”.

    But I think more of people’s reactions come not from what he did, but his body language and attitude about how he did it.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  22. Yes that’s like mogwai drink water, and eat after midnight, it’s not going to end well

    narciso (6075d0)

  23. It’s not the action per se, Aaron, but the context within – it was his press conference that he called to allegedly sell his tax package to the unbelievers. Then, like a starting pitcher that’s already had it after the first few pitches, he calls in the middle relief after a few perfunctory words in support. What, he couldn’t spend a few more moments of his precious time attempting to convince the broader public of the worthiness of his own prospective legislation? This is behavior more suited to a local councilman, not the leader of the free world.

    Dmac (498ece)

  24. Aaron, I think Obama had a simple stark choice of importance to make at that moment:

    Attend a Christmas party or talk to the American public about tax cuts.

    The Christmas party won.

    Wrong choice.

    He showed us which issue was more important to him. Also, leaving the podium to essentially a private citizen – yet counting on that private citizen’s charisma and experience to win over whom he himself (Obama) was unable to, spoke volumes.

    Dana (8ba2fb)

  25. The question I have regarding this surreal moment is, was the President just using don’t want to keep Michelle waiting as an excuse to bail because he was bored, or was it just revealing how whipped he is by Michelle?

    Either answer reflects poorly on him.

    I tend to think it was the latter, and that may speak to Michelle Obama having wearied of the political demands on her husband. 2012 may be iffy… Then again, I’m sure she had on a lovely new party frock to show off.

    Dana (8ba2fb)

  26. The comedy potential here is seemingly unlimited.

    Imagine that someone called Bill Clinton to ask him to help Obama sell extending the taxation level. Perhaps Obama himself. This is Obama’s primary ability… charisma and public speaking, right? Only they need a Clinton for that. They need a Clinton for foreign policy, too.

    Hillary can’t win without the black vote, so I know she won’t run against Obama in 2012, but Obama’s gone to some length to show that she was the right nominee.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  27. “If only it were really true. Which, it’s weird to say that, isn’t it? But he would be better, wouldn’t he?”

    Haw Haw Haw! Now you know what it was like for everyone during the GW Bush years when they were all yearning for good ol’ Ronald Reagan to be back in the White House.

    EdWood (501c59)

  28. Pretty sure Obama has grown tired of the actual work involved, but if he leaves, who will pay for all his golf and vacations? And Michelle’s “fancy” wardrobe? And if he leaves midway through, does he still get his full retirement?

    Perhaps he could talk Clinton into a volunteer advisor position to help him out. But then, I don’t think Clinton would do it without getting the credit

    PatAZ (b334e9)

  29. ____________________________________________

    joking aside, i am not getting the scandal here.

    It’s not a scandal as much as it’s a case of bad form or clueless etiquette. In that regards, it’s similar to Obama bowing like a servant before foreign dignitaries and being oblivious to the inappropriateness (or foolishness) of such behavior.

    Mark (3e3a7c)

  30. Haw Haw Haw! Now you know what it was like for everyone during the GW Bush years when they were all yearning for good ol’ Ronald Reagan to be back in the White House.

    Comment by EdWood

    I don’t see much difference between them, actually. Both are compassionate conservatives who worked very hard, were vilified by idiots, and stood their ground on some foreign policy.

    Granted, Reagan is dead, which makes all the difference it seems. When W passes away he will be a ‘good conservative’ too.

    But Bush didn’t walk away from his own press conference to let a stronger leader take over. He wasn’t pathetic.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  31. Aaron, the “big deal” is Obama is suppose to be the leader of the free world, elected to the highest office in America. Someone mentioned that his antics were more appropriate for a “local councilman”. As a past local councilman and past mayor of a small Michigan community, I assure you I would never have blown my constiuents off so flippently.

    America deserves better than Obama is willing or capable of giving. Perhaps he should fade into the background letting his Sr. officers (not Clinton)front for him until he can slink out of his term. I for one consider this president to be an incompetent embarasment.

    tonynoboloney (151d6f)

  32. EdWood, that comment made no sense at all.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  33. It is the same optics. Endless expensive vacations, date nights, golf games, basketball games and parties. He is way too busy with ‘the people’s business’ to spend time answering questions at his OWN press conference. Maybe he believes that Clinton will be able to explain Obama’s policies to us ‘bitter clingers’… To whom he has not spent enough time trying to explain how wonderful his policies are because he was spending all his time trying to get those policies correct. Wow, I do not remember even Carter spending so much time denigrating the American people that he represents (which is all of them, BTW) and calling them enemies, etc. Every time Obama goes off TelePrompTer script we get another jewel of a put down. So, instead of taking the chance and answering questions himself, he brings in a ringer, old Slick Willie. I guess it makes sense, maybe he thought we wouldn’t notice the old switch-er-roo! That is about what he thinks of the intelligence (or lack of) the American populace.

    I still REALLY want to see his college papers and grades because I REALLY that this stay home Mom beat the pants off Obama’s SAT scores. Why doesn’t someone leak Obama’s background? Why do we have to settle for only the information he is willing to release? Where is the colonoscopy for Obama’s background that Palin (a VP candidate) had to endure? The President is in way over his head and not even trying to do his job. That is why we are again getting stories about how the job is too big for one person. We never heard that during Katrina, did we? I think Obama is way way worse than Carter was, he is more like Carter to the third power!

    Texas Mom 2012 (cee89f)

  34. This isn’t a scandal, but it’s sure as hell a “teachable moment”. More than half the electorate voted for an unaccomplished, cry baby, narcissist dressed up as new Coke Jesus.

    What? The Greek columns weren’t a frigging tip off? But leave it to the GOP to run a next-in-line, go along to get along, isle crossing, fossil whose spoiled rotten, fat boobed, trust funded spawn is the punchline for every blonde joke that was ever uttered.

    No, this is no scandal. This was entirely predictable. Iowahawk wrote that bit in 2008. This is Barry Soetoro’s penultimate “present”, “can I finish my waffle”, “we’re buying shrimp here fellas” moment.

    It’s official. The Emperor is butt ass naked.

    And nobody even knows who he really is! I’m not talking birth certificates or the Muslim thing. Honestly. Who the fuck is this guy? Who? Creased slacks and a speech? Who. Is. This. Man?

    Thanks media. We’re all boned.

    Right now, I would blow Bill Clinton if it would put him in office for the rest of Obama’s term.

    Because I love my country.

    Lamontyoubigdummy (eb5315)

  35. You forgot to add a question mark to your title. It should read: OBAMA ABANDONS PRESIDENCY TO BILL CLINTON? What you have there comes off as a bit misleading. And I know that is not your intention.

    The Emperor (d61748)

  36. On top of the comments above, reading this account of how … someone ? … decided to hold a press conference after Clinton’s visit, one gets the impression that Obama is not thinking any of this through.

    Is his incompetence shown by his detachment from actually arguing for his proposal? Or is his incompetence shown by his lack of thought to how he was presenting to the press? Or is it as some are speculating that Clinton rolled him in front of the press?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  37. Ever heard of snark, Emperor?

    Patterico (c218bd)

  38. ? What you have there comes off as a bit misleading.

    No, it’s not misleading at all. It’s snark.

    And it’s also true. Obama abandoned a core responsibility of his office to Bill Clinton. He literally walked away from his podium, marked with his seal, and let Clinton do his job. It’s not like he let one of his subordinates under his executive branch do his job. That’s just the truth.

    Obama’s pathetic, and there’s nothing you can do to spin it.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  39. Everybody knows that Barky left because Michelle would no longer be proud of her husband if he was any later to the Christmas party and that Bent D*ck Bill Clinton currently has higher credibility in selling the tax “compromise” to Barky’s loony base.

    daleyrocks (c07dfa)

  40. @Dustin. Yeah Obama is pathetic and he is an empty suit president.. Heard that before… And now he abandons his work to Bill Clinton…. whats next?

    The Emperor (d61748)

  41. On a different note, crime really pays. But not in ways we want.. Karma is a bitch!

    The Emperor (d61748)

  42. It’s not like Obama shouldn’t let other people speak on his behalf sometimes.

    Letting a press secretary work with the press, or a General discuss a disaster or security issue, or Surgeon General discuss a health issue … all that makes a lot of sense.

    But there has to be a leader at the top, who uses his credibility and political capital, rather than his specialized expertise. The buck stops with him, and he’s going to make his case.

    And Obama passed that job onto Bill Clinton for no reason other than the fact that Clinton is a better leader and a better president.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  43. whats next?

    Comment by The Emperor

    Well, what was next was the 2010 election, where the GOP took tremendous gains. Many say this is simply a rejection of both parties, and these people are idiots. It’s a decision by the American people that Republicans are better than democrats at running our government.

    So what comes after that? Hmm… let me think. A lower deficit, oversight hearings, and a 2012 election.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  44. whats next?

    Comment by The Emperor

    I am hoping for a lot of Frogmarches myself.

    daleyrocks (c07dfa)

  45. ________________________________________

    Remember what he did to Netanyahu?

    Now that you mention it, perhaps Obama wasn’t being purposefully rude when he said he had to join his wife for dinner and walked out of the room occupied by Israel’s prime minister. Then again, I don’t know what’s worse: Obama snubbing a long-time ally of the US and applying a variation of “goddamn America” sentiment to Israel or his being detached from and bored by negotiations with a visiting head of state?

    Mark (3e3a7c)

  46. @Dustin.
    It’s a decision by the American people that Republicans are better than democrats at running our government.

    So going by your logic, the overwhelming defeat of the Republicans by the Democrats during the 2008 polls was a decision of the American people that the Democrats where better than Republicans at running the government? Nice point there.

    The Emperor (d61748)

  47. The Republican leadership must not allow a far-left President with a radical message to successfully position himself to look moderate in the eyes of the American public. The Left is going to the FCC in an attempt to seize and control the airwaves… it’s all a part of their game. They want to create new ways of regulating talk radio… Rush Limbaugh is only their first target.

    All center-right Americans need to realize that the Left have their eye on seizing control. That’s why every time they mention Republicans behind a microphone they are doing their utmost to demonize them as racist, “terrorists”, “hostage-takers”, “selfish white men”, etc. And since the Republicans have the House for the next 2 years, who will Obama and his far-left regime say is governing?

    ColonelHaiku (40e86d)

  48. So going by your logic, the overwhelming defeat of the Republicans by the Democrats during the 2008 polls was a decision of the American people that the Democrats where better than Republicans at running the government?

    That’s right.

    You act like you just proved something.

    I’m not sure what you mean by ‘overwhelming’. I guess you mean ‘I’m a troll’. Obviously the 2010 election’s results were more overwhelming.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  49. but if he leaves, who will pay for all his golf and vacations?

    You’re kidding, right? Do you have any idea how wealthy Clinton has become since he left office, the guy routinely bags over six figures for every speech he gives, which averages out to something like 3 – 4 a week. As soon as Obama’s out of office his speaking schedule will be filled up for the next ten years, if not farther out. And all he’ll have to do is repeat the same song and dance, direct off of TOTUS.

    Dmac (498ece)

  50. I agree with Dana at ##24-25. Completely.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  51. @Dustin.
    My point is that you cant go about gloating too much over an election win. Voters are very fickle and selfish in how they vote. If they are not happy, the party in power suffers. It happened to Bush. It’s happening to Obama. It will happen to any Republican or Democratic government in power under the same circumstances.. It’s politics.

    The Emperor (d61748)

  52. Comment by The Emperor — 12/11/2010 @ 11:13 am

    Do you not realize that Madoff’s sons were who turned him in for the Ponzi scheme?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  53. “And all he’ll have to do is repeat the same song and dance”

    Racist. Denounced and condemned.

    daleyrocks (c07dfa)

  54. Here’s one reason Obama left that no one has offered:

    The day before he got hammered by the press and his reaction was like a brooding, petulant adolescent snapping at his left wing detractors. He must have realized over night how immature he looked.

    Is that possible?

    Arizona Bob (e8af2b)

  55. @SPQR.. thats why it’s so painful. The innocent end up suffering for the sins of their father. But I think the real person who will feel the blow of this is his dad. Bernie Made-off-with-our-money! He is paying the price in his family.. Really sad.

    The Emperor (d61748)

  56. My point is that you cant go about gloating too much over an election win.

    Except I wasn’t gloating. You asked a question… what comes next after the democrat party governs horribly, and I noted you were skipping over the most obvious thing that came next, which was that they suffered an incredible loss in the 2010 election.

    It happened to Bush.

    Not really. Bush’s first midterm showed gains of power. It’s true, once the American people lost faith in the GOP in 2006, they lost power, and again in 2008. I already explained that to you upthread when you were clueless about this obvious point.

    I think it’s hilarious you call the 2010 election fickle and selfish, but the 2008 election ‘overwhelming’. You just can’t help contradicting yourself at the drop of a hat.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  57. @Arizona Bob, theres no doubt that the President has not had a very sweet week with the press. I think he is trying to do more of damage control..

    The Emperor (d61748)

  58. When his own base is making statements like this, it has become clear that he has alienated just about everyone possible. 2012? Seriously in doubt.

    I don’t know if there will really be a serious primary challenge to Obama in 2012. But I do think that the party is psychologically, emotionally finished with this guy. He’s a backstabber, a liar, a cheat. He’s not the leader of the party; he’s its albatross.

    Another thing, his walking out of the press conference certainly pointed once again to his serious disconnect from the public and lack of judgment, nuance, and general perception of Americans. He did not take into account that we might take offense at being so lightly dismissed for the sake of a Christmas party. And this is especially ironic because the issue was tax cuts and Christmas is but 2 weeks away.

    (Side note: 2012 – Hillary is still trying to pay off the 2008 debt and Bill is still making the plea. He certainly comes in handy…)

    Dana (8ba2fb)

  59. Suppose in 1962, former President Truman had visited the White House. Can you picture John F. Kennedy and Harry Truman acting out the scenario Obama and Clinton put on?

    DN (ad6cba)

  60. @Dustin.. So we agree.

    The Emperor (d61748)

  61. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone shill this hard for Obama as Emperor has.

    Nothing sets him off like noting the truth about Obama’s inability to do even the easiest task.

    ‘but Bush!!!!’ he says.

    That makes Republicans smile. We are perfectly willing to admit that Obama is approximately the albatross to the dems that Bush was in 2006.

    Nice defense.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  62. @Dustin..
    I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone shill this hard for Obama as Emperor has.

    LOL.. You can call me the devil’s advocate.. 🙂

    The Emperor (d61748)

  63. his serious disconnect from the public and lack of judgment, nuance, and general perception of Americans.

    He really isn’t a very American man. Culturally, he’s really weird, having been close friends with Ayers, giving Rev Wright checks for $20,000, growing up in Indonesia.

    No, I’m not talking about his citizenship or eligibility. I’m talking about the fact that Obama’s behavior is completely unlike the behavior of a Clinton or a Bush, who would never blatantly walk away from the American people for a silly party, especially when it’s time to explain a financial issue of great importance to a lot of struggling families.

    There’s no way out for the Democrat party. They can’t nominate an actual leader in 2012.

    People say Palin’s unelectable, and I think 2010 showed that’s a reasonable concern, but it goes out the window when Obama’s polling 40% in swing states.

    It’s going to be pretty hilarious if Palin manages to beat Obama simply because Obama screws up little things like quitting his own press conference, screeching about sanctimonious democrats, and hostage murdering Republicans.

    Emperor has called these major errors ‘damage control’ or ‘clever lying’. But there is no upside to them, unless you are drowning in Kool-Aid.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  64. ___________________________________________

    Well, at least he was more appropriate and presidential in the following instance. Oops, I guess not.

    http://www.nbcchicago.com, November 6, 2009:

    After news broke out of the shooting at the Fort Hood Army post in Texas, the nation watched in horror as the toll of dead and injured climbed. The White House was notified immediately and by late afternoon, word went out that the president would speak about the incident prior to a previously scheduled appearance.

    At about 5 p.m., cable stations went to the president. The situation called for not only his trademark eloquence, but also grace and perspective.

    But instead of a somber chief executive offering reassuring words and expressions of sympathy and compassion, viewers saw a wildly disconnected and inappropriately light president making introductory remarks.

    At the event, a Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of Interior’s Bureau of Indian affairs, the president thanked various staffers and offered a “shout-out” to “Dr. Joe Medicine Crow — that Congressional Medal of Honor winner.”

    Mark (3e3a7c)

  65. LOL.. You can call me the devil’s advocate.. 🙂

    Comment by The Emperor

    Nah, you’re just a shill. You’re certainly not advocating for Obama. You make him look pathetic, because you can’t come up with an argument for him that you don’t contradict within 15 minutes.

    You flatter yourself. But it’s not like anyone else was going to.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  66. the Christmas Party
    beckons The Boss waits
    Slick Willie lingers

    ColonelHaiku (6a7bbb)

  67. @Dustin.
    You are right. I am not advocating for Obama. Not really. I am advocating for reason and common sense. Balance. I am that other voice in your head that tells you to take another view. A more objective and less partisan view. 🙂

    The Emperor (d61748)

  68. But truth be told, Bill Clinton really looked presidential there. Miss those days…

    The Emperor (d61748)

  69. . I am not advocating for Obama. Not really. I am advocating for reason and common sense.

    LOL

    A lot of lefty shills pretend to be objective. It’s a cliche.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  70. Objective? Bwahahahaha!

    Thanks for the laugh. You need a dictionary.

    lovey 2010 9/10 (fd3ee2)

  71. I especially love calling the 2010 election fickle and selfish.

    Keep up that nice reasonable view there, Emperor.

    I look forward to 2012.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  72. Racist. Denounced and condemned.

    Guilty as charged. What I meant to say was that he would do the same old shucking and jiving. (h/t Bill Clinton)

    Dmac (498ece)

  73. A lot of lefty shills pretend to be objective. It’s a cliche.

    You mean like the MFM?

    Dmac (498ece)

  74. Are people allowed to sock puppet on any other days apart from fridays?

    The Emperor (d61748)

  75. Yes, but only in specially designated Friday sock puppet threads.

    Patterico (c218bd)

  76. @Patterico.
    Yes I know that. I just noticed someone using (a parody of)my former moniker here on this thread at comment number 70. Not that i mind. Just asking if it’s allowed on other threads too.

    The Emperor (d61748)

  77. but if he leaves, who will pay for all his golf and vacations?

    Sorry, Dmac. It was sarcasm. Obama has already become more weathly since taking office, I’m sure.

    PatAZ (b334e9)

  78. “Comment by no one you know — 12/11/2010 @ 7:29 am”

    For once a double post was utterly appropriate.

    gary gulrud (790d43)

  79. Comment by Dmac — 12/11/2010 @ 11:55 am

    I’m pretty sure PatAZ was asking that question about Teh Won.

    The entire point is that Barry likes “being” President (Head of State, with all the trappings),
    it’s just that he finds “doing” President (actually governing, being the CEO of the Executive Branch + CinC) tiresome.

    Or, as Barbie would say:
    Decisions are hard!

    AD-RtR/OS! (0bf884)

  80. If only we had a silly Queen or Prince like England does. They could be ‘important’ without actually being important. They could bow a lot and have lots of ornaments around them.

    Obama could do that.

    Of course, this is the very opposite of a ‘President’, which isn’t supposed to be regal. Obama’s the custodian of our country’s government, and I don’t think that’s what he wanted out of life.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  81. Party, on Barry! Hope he enjoyed his non-judgmental, non-denominational unoffensive holiday and pointedly not Christmas party. This was an embarrassment to cap them all; abdication of his job to boogie with the Wookie of a wife and get drunk. If he had a shred of decency or a drop of humility he would resign.

    Bugg (4e0dda)

  82. Sorry, Dmac. It was sarcasm.

    Yeah, I know – but if there’s more of this “woe is me” act then most of the country’s going to really be done with him, if they’re not already. The guy and his wife are both fairly well – off, but his payday (and hers) after they leave office is going to be absolutely monumental. Don’t cry for me, Argentina.

    Dmac (498ece)

  83. BTW, we’re getting tons of rain that’s going to change into a blizzard shortly, followed by sub – zero temps and howling winds. Gotta get me some of that AGW. The Bears vs. Patriots game tomorrow afternoon should be memorable.

    Dmac (498ece)

  84. “Yeah, I know – but if there’s more of this “woe is me” act then most of the country’s going to really be done with him”

    Dmac – Yeah, let them eat vegetables!

    daleyrocks (c07dfa)

  85. Discussing George Bush’s recently released book Decision Points, Mark McKinnon compared Obama’s poor-little-me act to George Bush’s approach (with a bonus reference to John Kerry):

    The book does highlight, however, a fundamental difference between George Bush and Barack Obama. Bush never complains. He never blames others. He takes full responsibility for his campaigns, his administration, his life. He accepts the cards he’s dealt. That’s the George Bush I know.

    When we were up to our knees in the snows of New Hampshire and got whipped by John McCain by 19 points, my advertising colleague Stuart Stevens started packing his bags. I asked what he was doing. “We’re going to be fired,” he said speaking from the experience of someone who had been in previous presidential campaigns when things went south. But Bush called us all into his room, looked us all in the eye, and said, “When we walk out of here and the defeat we’ve just been dealt, I want all your heads high. This is not your fault. It’s mine alone. I let you down, and I apologize.” And then he went out and gave a speech that Reagan’s speechwriter Peggy Noonan told me looked like a victory speech if you turned the sound off. In contrast, when I saw John Kerry after the 2004 campaign (ironically in Paris), he said to me, “You guys did a really good job, and my team really $%&#$ it up.” Amazing he would think that. Incredible he would say it. Astonishing he would say it to me.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  86. By the way, McKinnon was the McCain adviser who stepped down because he did not want to attack Obama.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  87. That’s an interesting link, DRJ. I wonder why McKinnon had no trouble attacking McCain like a rabid dog during that primary, yet he became a shrinking violet regarding Obama. I hope we finally get beyond the racial context in future campaigns, since that appears to be the only factor in many people’s decisions in the last election.

    Dmac (498ece)

  88. Dmac,

    McKinnon was very clear that while he didn’t agree with Obama’s politics, electing him — presumably because he is a black man — would “send a great message to the country and the world.” I wouldn’t have stepped down but I agree with McKinnon that Obama’s election sent a message about race in America.

    Of course, now that the message has been sent, I expect McKinnon will wholeheartedly return to help a Republican candidate.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  89. Dmac: your weather is reverse global warming. Was sunny and 80 degrees here in southern AZ today. That football game should be a good one. Love it when the weather is bad.

    PatAZ (b334e9)

  90. “The Bears vs. Patriots game tomorrow afternoon should be memorable.”

    Dmac – Hopefully not memorable in the same way as the Patriots and Jets game on Monday night.

    daleyrocks (c07dfa)

  91. He’s also one of the nitwits behind Bloomberg’s vanity ‘No Labels’ campaign.

    narciso (6075d0)

  92. I’ve always thought that history would over time improve George W. Bush’s reputation as a President. It looks like Obama’s main success will be speeding that process up for Bush.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  93. president Obama with a small p…President Clinton with a large P

    jcloh (27638e)

  94. Speaking of race, Duncan Hines’ singing chocolate frosting is racist. JD would have told them that.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  95. Oh for God’s sake. Eventually people are going to have to accept that brown is a naturally occurring color and something that is brown is not necessarily an African American.

    Until then, we have JD to guide us as to what is and is racist.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  96. If you are in doubt, you are racist. Even if you are not in doubt, racist.

    JD (6e25b4)

  97. Obama abandons the presidency (shouldn’t that be “abdicates”?)

    Clinton abandons his semi-private life.

    Interns prepare to abandon their panties.

    Abandon hope, all ye that enter.

    Icy Texan (66e366)

  98. What a thumsucking twink you are emperor. Paaat, someone is using a derivation of an old moniker of mine-waaaaaah!
    GEEBUS, if you didn’t care, why mention it? Can you possibly be any more petty? It’s no wonder you worship zero, you share a similar over inflated ego.

    lovey 2010 9/10 (617a18)

  99. At this point perhaps only God can help us. What about doing what this sight suggest? It might just work.
    Godsmessagetoamerica.com

    Dave (2c83e7)

  100. If it wasn’t for its Passive-Agressive characteristics, it would have no character at all.

    AD-RtR/OS! (6dbf61)

  101. JT just needed to get its Palin hate on.

    JD (85b089)

  102. Of course, now that the message has been sent, I expect McKinnon will wholeheartedly return to help a Republican candidate.

    See, the message I got was that the majority of our voting citizens were so ignorant and/or uncaring regarding the important issues facing our country that the only thing that really mattered was electing someone who wasn’t Caucasion. Wonder if the Euro elites still feel that way.

    Dmac (498ece)

  103. BTW, Justice Stevens was on the Wallace show this morning, and spent his alloted 15 minutes lecturing and condescending to the host. Quite a performance.

    Dmac (498ece)

  104. Dmac, you’re right, McKinnon’s behavior in 2008 is hard for me to accept at all.

    It’s racist, not in the sarcastic JD way, but actual, to say we can’t criticize Obama’s serious problems because we don’t treat blacks that way.

    And now we’re suffering from the real problem with racism. It was truly irrational to treat Obama differently than, say, Hillary, and that’s caused us to make a huge decision, as a country, that was wrong.

    The many Republicans who refused to criticize Obama are supposed to care about this. They are supposed to live in and instill a color-blind society as much as possible.

    I wonder how many people on Mccain’s campaign this man spoke for. No wonder these people hate Sarah Palin. They couldn’t stop carping at her, even though she was their freaking nominee, and a permanent part of the GOP as their VP nominee. So they eat their own, while refusing to criticize their most significant opponent… because they are racists.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  105. _______________________________________

    electing someone who wasn’t Caucasion.

    The ironic thing about the phenomenon of people in 2008 voting for Obama because of his race is that they turned on its head the rather well-known dynamic (certainly true and pervasive before the 1960s era of civil rights or the 1970s era of affirmative action) of two people — one white, one non-white — applying for the same job. That being when a non-Caucasian (or Latino or biracial) person is competing for a job with a white, he or she has to be not just as good and qualified as the other job applicant, he or she has to be better.

    Obama’s history and background were among the least impressive, controversial and actually most pock-marked of any candidate ever to run for the presidency.

    Mark (3e3a7c)

  106. Meanwhile Obama, supposedly this great communicator of the Democrats, can’t get the House Democrats to get behind him on something as straightforward as this tax rate extension deal.

    The incredible shrinking Empty Suit(tm).

    SPQR (26be8b)

  107. “See, the message I got was that the majority of our voting citizens were so ignorant and/or uncaring regarding the important issues facing our country that the only thing that really mattered was electing someone who wasn’t Caucasion.”

    Dmac – Now the message I get is that the left (including the MFM and self-annointed intellectual elite) don’t give a sh*t about the economy, their holy grail (borrowing from Barky) is to punish the rich (however defined) by increasing their tax burden. The changes Bush made in tax brackets made our tax system more progressive, but that does not matter. The facts that the top 10% of taxpayers already pay 70% of taxes and the top 20% pay 86% do not matter. They must pay may according to left out of FAIRNESS!!!!!

    What are they smoking?

    daleyrocks (c07dfa)

  108. That’s it in a nutshell, daleyrocks.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  109. To think that we’d probably live in another world had Clinton been able to seek a third term. I’ve always thought OBL planned the 9/11 strikes so that they occurred under a freshman rather than one with even minimal expertise – why 2001 rather than 2000 or 2002 after all? This is one point conspiracy theorists have never shown interest in, probably because it asks tougher questions than just “did Bush/the USA/Jooos do it?”

    Optimus Prime (0692b1)

  110. Optimus Prime, there is no evidence that OBL paid any attention to who was President at the time of the 9/11 attacks.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  111. Now the message I get is that the left (including the MFM and self-annointed intellectual elite) don’t give a sh*t about the economy, their holy grail

    I have to reluctantly add some of the new (and existing) GOP membership to that list – the person they put up to give the first House address (Kristi Noem), just got more earmarked legislation for extending the ethanol boondoggle, she said it “was important for the farmers of SD,” or some such nonsense.

    If someone like this (who was closely allied with the local Tea Party) can actually do this kind of action and justify it with a straight face, then our party’s learned absolutely NOTHING about the last election.

    Dmac (498ece)

  112. The incredible shrinking Empty Suit(tm).
    Comment by SPQR — 12/12/2010 @ 9:39 am

    When if finally arrives at a size that nearly fits, it will have to altered using an Electron-Microscope.

    AD-RtR/OS! (6dbf61)

  113. Comment by Optimus Prime — 12/12/2010 @ 10:52 am

    He felt no such reticence in green-lighting the Cole attack which occurred on October 12, 2000!
    How was the Cole attack different than 9/11?
    Both were Acts of War – an assault on United States Territory.

    AD-RtR/OS! (6dbf61)

  114. Comment by lovey 2010 9/10 — 12/12/2010 @ 4:54 am
    LOL!1 I really don’t mind you sock puppeting me. Actually I see it as a compliment. So thank you. 🙂 Just wanted to know if I could do it on any other thread apart from the designated thread.

    The Emperor (4bc2e1)

  115. They plan out operations years in advance, Ali Mohammed had ‘cased’ the embassies, five year out.An Egyptian in the FDNY had acquired the plans for the towers after the first attempt Wright’s profile of Zawahiri, indicates that the originator of this idea, was Seif al Adel, a former Egyptian Army Colonel, who sought to fly a plane into the Egyptian parliament, that was in the late 80s, the Eiffel tower plot in 1994, was a rundown, as were Yousef and KSM operations in Bojinka, Akim Mourad provided the first target lists, but that never made itself into any of the two PDB’s although the names of Adel and the soon to be late Mohammed Atef, did make it into the first one. but neither the NSA intercepts of al Hazmi and Al Midhar, or the CIA flag of Jarrah, the Phoenix Memo, or any other real tipoff made it into the system

    narciso (6075d0)


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