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Open Thread: Obama Iraq Speech; UPDATED with Video of Gibbs Lying

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 5:40 pm

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UPDATE: This is worth watching: that moron Gibbs lying to the Fox News audience:

Via Greg Hengler.

46 Responses to “Open Thread: Obama Iraq Speech; UPDATED with Video of Gibbs Lying”

  1. Nope no satelitte dish – thank goodness

    EricPWJohnson (719277)

  2. flat speech he not care
    war distracts him from main goal
    reshaping U.S.

    ColonelHaiku (5d380f)

  3. Nope. I’ve heard it all before. “Blah, blah, blah, Bush got me into this mess. Blah. blah, blah, but I’ll take the credit for his success.

    PatriotRider (17f47b)

  4. Did he thank President Bush for winning with the surge that Barcky declared would make things worse, and Harry Reid declared a failure before it ever started? No.

    he did say “I” at least 13 times.

    JD (d606fc)

  5. Obama did say
    his surge just as big maybe
    bigger than Bush’s

    ColonelHaiku (5d380f)

  6. I I I I I
    me me me me me me me
    like he always say

    ColonelHaiku (5d380f)

  7. “… As we do, I am mindful that the Iraq War has been a contentious issue at home. Here, too, it is time to turn the page. This afternoon, I spoke to former President George W. Bush. It’s well known that he and I disagreed about the war from its outset.

    Obama was still scraping for gas money, thumbing rides in 2003, who he kidding?

    ColonelHaiku (5d380f)

  8. It is an amazing speech.


    He’s explaining away his economic failure.

    He couldn’t take a break from golfing and vacationing to acknowledge this victory last week… when it actually happened, but he has the gall to talk about how it should forgive his own performance on an area he is suffering on politically. Did the Iraq war cost $12 trillion (hell no)? It cost less than the stimulus efforts, which seem to have made the economy worse. We’d be a lot better off if DC had done nothing at all, arguably post TARP (arguably pre TARP, but surely pre stim and Tarp II).

    That Obama makes this about his troubles truly fits the term ‘audacity of hope’. America knows this was a difficult achievement. Hell, Obama said it was impossible when he said genocide was preferable to US Troops staying in theater (what a complete bastard).

    Obama would have gained a ton of political good will if he noted that Bush’s determination to see this through, in the face of opponents like Obama, saved democracy for 27 million people, many very young. Why didn’t he do it?

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  9. Because he is an egotistical narcissistic nozzle of douche?

    JD (d606fc)

  10. … Yet no one could doubt President Bush’s support for our troops, or his love of country and commitment to our security.

    Well, there’s that…

    Dana (8ba2fb)

  11. I am just brainstorming here …

    JD (d606fc)

  12. I refused to watch the lying SOB.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  13. SPQR – Reading it is worse. You can feel the lies developing.

    JD (d606fc)

  14. JD, I just read my friend Stephen Green drunk-blogging it.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  15. I’m not enough of a masochist to watch this narcissist.

    AD - RtR/OS! (578e62)

  16. JD pegged it. EGO. Obama’s ego is just too important to him. That’s the difference between Obama and Bush, at the most core level. Bush ain’t perfect, but he looks like it compared to Obama.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  17. Stephen Green drunk blogging is generally quite amusing.

    JD (d606fc)

  18. Good advice, SPQR.

    EW1(SG) (edc268)

  19. Has there ever been a less humble smaller person serve as President?

    JD (d606fc)

  20. He will never say he’s changed his mind, or he was wrong. He is a narcissist in the classic sense.

    and he really suck as prez.

    ColonelHaiku (5d380f)

  21. Don’t worry Patterico – it’s beeing reported here in New Zealand just fine.

    scrubone (753c79)

  22. Barcky makes timmah and crissyhooten seem like big men, stand up guys.

    JD (d606fc)

  23. Teh One never fails to disappoint regarding expectations.

    Dmac (d61c0d)

  24. Actually, the Iraq War was not only cheaper than the stimulus, but it also employed more people – even if you only count the defense workers back home.

    And just think. Cash For Clunkers was destroying vehicles here at home – but the Iraq War destroyed how many more vehicles AND gave our troops target practice! That’s a twofer.

    Gesundheit (aab7c6)

  25. Gesundheit, it always bugged the crap out of me that the F-22, employing tons of people, was cut, while more expensive ‘saved or created’ jobs were promoted. Shovel ready jobs, not the technical jobs that the F-22 created. But the F-22 is an ugly symbol of Republicans or something, I guess.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  26. Breaking report that Obama will pull 100% of our troops out of Iraq in 1 year.

    Why didn’t he mention this earlier? I guess some short term political reason.

    This is a huge mistake. We’ve been in Europe and Asia for half a century. Obama’s idea that only Iraqis can build their democracy is a load of crap that doesn’t make any sense. It’s also much better for American interests to hold the peace as best as we can, and have a stabilizing presence. How much money did that save in Europe, by preventing war (and war it did prevent)? Or Korea? How many lives did it save?

    but here’s the problem: as long as Iraq is stable, Bush gets credit for this huge accomplishment, and Obama looks pretty stupid. Perhaps I’m paranoid, but I get the impression Obama wouldn’t mind so much if Iraq plunged into darkness again, so long as his fingerprints weren’t on it. We’re talking about a guy who cited genocide in Iraq as the preferable of two options. Or perhaps he’s thinking ahead to negotiating with the GOP House, using Iraq? That’s how the dems did their dirty work for several years.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  27. 2012 can’t come soon enough……

    redc1c4 (fb8750)

  28. And even though it’s apparently wrong to think this way, it is really convenient to the war on terror and global politics that the USA has bases in Iraq. Why in the world would we give them up, when Iraq wants us there? It isn’t good for us, or them.

    Iran is next door, and Iraq having US bases is a huge strategic factor limiting them.

    Let’s look at Iran on a map. Hmmm. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, UAE, former soviet sat states…

    Bush clearly was trying to bottle them up as best as he could, and Obama either doesn’t care about this or wants to unravel it. Keeping a foothold in Iraq is a valuable strategic benefit that we earned with blood. I would hope we would remain in Iraq, in some capacity, for many decades, as we have elsewhere.

    Tough love with a fledgling democracy? Why? How does that help? I sure wish folks hadn’t pressed Obama too hard on this ‘but that’s not all the troops’ point.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  29. 2012 can’t come soon enough……

    Comment by redc1c4

    And it won’t. Obama is going to make sure it’s too late to undo much of this stuff. Will we be able to regain a foothold in Iraq? A semi-permanent presence as we have in Europe and Asia, to better protect ourselves in an advanced military world?

    Will the public sector be so large, and entitlements so crushing, that returning to a fairly unencumbered powerhouse market economy can’t be done?

    We need a miracle.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  30. At least Obama said he is going to make jobs a priority.

    Wait, haven’t we heard that before?

    How long is Obama’s list of priorities now? Is it longer than his list of broken promises?

    daleyrocks (940075)

  31. Here’s 33 seconds of Obama the Great Prognosticator…

    ColonelHaiku (5d380f)

  32. daleyrocks – That must be the 20th time he made jobs the top priority. If he keeps doing so, we should be at 15% unemployment in no time.

    JD (d606fc)

  33. Not watching. The content is going to be BS and the delivery sucks. The man will through the extensive use of the first person singular pronoun confirm he is a narcissist.

    NotaYank (700f18)

  34. Even if his ego wasn’t in the way, the reaction from the left would be deafening if he in some way suggested something positive about Bush. He would truly have no one supporting him anymore then.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  35. MD, that must be what Obama’s people think.

    I would really appreciate such a comment. I think a lot of Americans would like to put that division in the past, and this would signal that was done.

    I admit, I ain’t voting for him either way. I’m irrelevant to any leftist’s calculations aside from what degree I’m motivated to fight back. I think the left has already been roaring about ‘the insurance bailout act’ and various other issues, and will support Obama to the max as soon as the next evil challenger to the democrats appears in 2012.

    I thought he had nothing to gain by looking reasonable on this issue, but chances are I’m just out of touch.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  36. Dustin,

    I don’t think you are out of touch, just too reasonable. The Obama types didn’t simply think Bush was wrong about some things, but that he was wicked, evil, mean, and not a very nice person who liked to lie and kill people for power. When you think that way about someone, it’s hard to find anything good to say. Remember Bushitler? There’s nothing good one can say about Hitler.

    No, there’s not much room for someone saying, “I thought Bush was wrong, but things have turned out much better than I ever thought they would”, not among liberals anyway. There may be some more conservative types who thought Bush was making big mistakes that think this way, but not from the left.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  37. Dude! Braves were on!

    Virtual Insanity (d93c26)

  38. Gibbs lies as effortlessly as EPWJ is a whack-job.

    JD (d606fc)

  39. BTW, Lisa conceeded in AK!

    AD - RtR/OS! (578e62)

  40. Oops…forgot to refresh the page, and missed the new entry. Sorry.

    AD - RtR/OS! (578e62)

  41. Did we win? I heard the word victory, exactly once …

    You don’t see much of this type leadership from a supposed world leader. Now back to the really hard part, remaking America in Mao’s image.

    tarpon (0d210f)

  42. “For too long, we have put off tough decisions on everything from our manufacturing base to our energy policy to education reform.”

    Except for things like taking over our auto industry, since when has the government made decisions about our manufacturing base? Is he saying that is part of the government’s job?

    daleyrocks (940075)

  43. Cmon people, we’ve got midterms coming up. It’s time to focus like a laser on the economy.

    B. Hussein Obama (7b4374)

  44. Barry – Focus on this!

    daleyrocks (940075)

  45. Robert Gibbs is quite arrogant. Even if I was related to him I wouldn’t like him at all. And if I knew him personally, I probably would have thrown something at his head by now. I won’t comment on his dexterity with his job. But as a person he is detestable.

    Birdbath (8501d4)

  46. (Day late & a dollar short as usual.)

    And we thought Baghdad Bob was ridiculous!

    Just goes to show you that Americans (sadly, in this case) can excel in just about anything. How did Obama find a guy so willing to make an absolute fool of himself day after day, week after week?

    It would be better if he came out dressed as a jester from some period piece movie.

    ExRat (d82866)

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