Patterico's Pontifications

8/31/2010

Murkowski Concedes

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:24 pm

For the good of Alaska.

UPDATE: Joe Miller tweets that Ace of Spades should get the pudding ready.

For the good of Alaska.

A balls-in-pudding reference, from Joe Miller. So there you have it.

UPDATE x2: daleyrocks observes in comments: “Dip ‘em if you got ‘em!”

25 Responses to “Murkowski Concedes”

  1. And will the GOP finally realize that the electorate really wants a sea change in their party, and not another bunch of earmarkers/pork barrelers/insiders? Of course not.

    Dmac (d61c0d)

  2. a Miller staffer was re-tweeting someone else…. Stacy McCain, IIRC……

    anyone got a warm wash cloth i can borrow? :-D

    redc1c4 (fb8750)

  3. Dip ‘em if you got ‘em!

    daleyrocks (940075)

  4. Dmac, no, of course not. That’s the really tragic thing about all this. The GOP should have let this happen while celebrating the fact that this upheaval is making the party stronger (and it is).

    Nope, they sent in some lawyers and in subtler ways have shown some real stubbornness.

    Sea Change is exactly what the GOP needs. No more Scozzafavas. And the key to the Sea Change is more Joe Miller style candidates. If a Joe Miller had ran in Arizona, I firmly believe Mccain would have lost the nomination.

    Miller’s an associate of the Palin family, apparently… that short cut the vetting process. But the Tea Party should find a way to vet candidates to challenge for incumbent and vacated seats, while taking over precincts and political committees.

    And LOL at the Aceofspades flaming skull in some pudding .gif image.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  5. What is it with you racist teabaggers that you always want to dip your nutsacks in things?

    JD (99d9b9)

  6. If a Joe Miller had ran in Arizona, I firmly believe Mccain would have lost the nomination.

    And what wonderful qualities does Miller possess that Hayworth lacked?

    Subotai (fa4782)

  7. He has a Bronze Star, a great education, is much better spoken, classy, hasn’t appeared in any ‘free government money!!!!!!!!!!!! adverts’, and isn’t a career politician, subotai. Remember how Mccain whined that hayworth wouldn’t concede? That’s a nearly universal tradition of respect that even bitter rivals abide.

    Ultimately, he doesn’t come across as a sleazy politician, but as a guy who loves his country. Remember, Arizona gave Mccain a low approval rating before this primary (and probably does now, too).

    I’m glad you’re asking that question. You and I must ask that question of what qualities Miller has that Hayworth doesn’t have if we’re going to beat RINOs.

    Because the most wonderful quality that Miller possesses that hayworth lacks is that Miller has defeated a RINO senator. I wish they shared that one, but they don’t and we should ask why if we want to oust RINOs.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  8. BTW, this isn’t just some showbiz trick. Joe Miller simply is a different sort of man than JD Hayworth… it’s easy to say that Hayworth would be more loyal to conservatism in his voting, but it’s much harder to say he’s an agent of reform.

    This is something that is hard to pinpoint, but easy to see. Subotai, do you have a problem with Joe Miller? Check out his website (compare it to Murkowski’s, for example). He is an affable patriot who has a vision for the future aside from bashing his opponent and grabbing some power.

    It’s not that I’m a rabid hater of Hayworth, but he was a very weak candidate because he just lacked this essential nature. Fair or not, that kind of person is who we need to run. Politics requires appealing to people’s judgments about what kind of person a candidate is.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  9. So, another of the Minority Leader’s circle is gone.

    The guy’s circle of buddies appears to be of poorer representatives of their states. The GOP can send a message by choosing a Minority leader in 2011 who represents the Republican party, not the McConnell circle, all due respect to the guy.

    I like Demint for leader. Is he an effective Senator coalition builder, though? That’s a real skill set that doesn’t always translate well to other skill sets. We need someone who can handle Senate battles, but also signals reform and conservatism.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  10. “The GOP can send a message by choosing a Minority leader in 2011 who represents the Republican party”

    How about we instead select a majority leader? :)

    Lord Nazh (0d312a)

  11. to what extent have Alaska Rs shown themselves to be superior of character to Arizona Rs?

    It’s off the charts.

    happyfeet (19c1da)

  12. It was a very close race. Why was it a close race, between a Murkowski and a Miller? As a practical matter, it is simply very difficult to beat an incumbent Senator.

    We need to pick candidates who are twice as credible on reform, smarter, better spoken, with great resumes as citizens.

    Fair? I don’t know, but I know it doesn’t matter. Fact is, Hayworth would have been a much better Senator than Mccain. I’ve thought back and forth on it, but Mccain, with little to no reelection ambitions, after such a hard primary? He’s going to be worse than ever. Hayworth was obligated to a conservative group of voters… he wouldn’t be nearly as capable of screwing up as Mccain is.

    That reality just wasn’t enough. Hayworth could have been a better Senator, but he wasn’t as good a candidate as we needed.

    We can condemn the people of Arizona… but as you do that, understand that you need to come back and appeal to them. A Joe Miller would have, IMO.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  13. Does Sarahcuda wear her collected scalps on her belt, or does she hang them over the entrance to the lodge?

    AD - RtR/OS! (578e62)

  14. Does Sarahcuda wear her collected scalps on her belt, or does she hang them over the entrance to the lodge?

    Comment by AD – RtR/OS! — 8/31/2010 @ 11:25 pm

    She does just like the Cartwrights on Bonanza did with their six guns, she hangs ‘em up when she goes in the house, and puts ‘em on when she leaves.

    peedoffamerican (51a29e)

  15. Not an answer to the question I asked.

    AD - RtR/OS! (578e62)

  16. Oh, it is, need to get sleep I guess.

    AD - RtR/OS! (578e62)

  17. ^ heh

    Anyway, maybe some of us are invested in the recent Arizona primary and the strong feelings that Mccain inspires in those whose backs he has stabbed, and it’s difficult to have a profitable discussion about Hayworth right now.

    So I’ll just move along to the idea of a primary challenger to Lindsey Graham, or even my Senator Cornyn (which appears to be impossible as best as I can tell). Such a challenge can take the road of picking a house member with a little baggage, but a very conservative stance. I think that’s not going to fare as well as carefully picking someone who has a lot of traits that combine to create a very favorable and credible reform candidate. some of these traits won’t be fair, such as physical appearance, family, super impressive education (I know, the ivy league is evil, I know).

    But if you want to oust RINOs, that will take more than a non-RINO because RINOs are generally pretty powerful, having sold out to powerful interests. We have to take care that we get every conceivable advantage.

    Perhaps they can’t all be Yale Law grads with Bronze Stars who look like your friendly brother and speak intelligently. But reality says we have to pick people who John Q Public will think are very smart, competent, patriotic, and trustworthy, relying often on the sorts of qualities that stand out in Joe Miller, and I think do not stand out in JD Hayworth quite as well.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  18. Hope, hope that we in South Carolina can get rid of Lindsey Graham at the end of his term.

    krusher (04c9fa)

  19. It’s almost as important as beating Mccain would have been, krusher.

    and without any embarrassment of ousting your last prez nominee (I wouldn’t have been so embarrassed).

    I want to clarify that I do include a strong ‘conservative’ stance, being for a less intrusive government and lower spending, with a zeal for ending corruption, as essential to my idea of a credible challenger to someone like Graham. You can’t have someone who looks like just a RINO slob, but has somewhat better politics. No… RINOs are powerful and if we have to be twice as good looking, with double the verbal charm, and triple the patriotic background, and quadruple the intellect… well, by golly we better go ahead and live up to all that.

    Because even Graham could be formidable if the candidate running against him is perceived as another politician staking out a more conservative position simply because that’s smart politicking.

    I had this argument with subotai before. He can just imagine I held up a chart like this:

    1) Joe Miller

    2) ????????

    3) Profits!

    And whatever is really going on here, he and I should strive to work it out.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  20. I am very glad Miller won. I am a direct beneficiary of Ted Stevens strong contribution to the creation of ANCSA in ’71, (Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act). So for me, when the other Ted guy died last year…as with Uncle Ted, I had profound sadness but great ambivelence too…for both senator’s passing. Ok, I digress.

    So with Miller, he has a clear stance on Immigration which I heartily applaud, but it will also likely mean much development of our last great wildlife/wilderness areas. I will not welcome seeing that ramp up.

    My main joy in seeing Miller win is that he has an impeccable CV, great candor, and is anti-illegal immigration. Does the MSM miss this credential for the upset wins? Can they contort reality more before being permanently carted off to Bizarro World?

    Many comments re Miller in the LAT slammed him…(like we have such great representatives and candidates). That’s rich!

    dudeabides (bc873a)

  21. Nice to see you, dudeabides.

    You sure you’re a lefty?

    Patterico (c218bd)

  22. Being against illegal immigration is not a conservative position, despite the fact that the MFM would like to make it out to be.

    JD (8ded14)

  23. I’m not surprised she hasn’t endorsed Miller yet. But she had committed to do so. They both had, a couple weeks prior to the election, committed to unifying the party as best as they could once the heated primary was over. These politicians at this level are supposed to be capable of getting over a primary loss.

    How sad for Murkowski that she accepted the promise expecting Miller to endorse her… after all, she probably thought she had the win in the bag, without really considering her side of that deal.

    When a primary is this close, lots of die hards from the losing side really do need that endorsement. From what I read at Hot Air, Miller’s opponent is seriously not ready for prime time anyway.

    Does the MSM miss this credential for the upset wins?

    I bet you’re right. At the end of the day, almost no upsets will be pro-amnesty and many will be lining up with Brewer.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  24. Am I sure I am a Liberal?

    I cast my first vote in ’72 for McGovern and through 2008 voted as a dyed-in-the-wool liberal Dem.

    Now, all bets are off. I voted for Walter Moore for mayor- since desperate times call for desperate measures(clichéd mantra). I sense there are MANY disaffected Liberals which this Fall will prove….I hope so, anyway.

    The SEIU, Acorn, HuffPo, current Chambers of Commerce & ACLU, La Raza, the DOJ, my present mayor, and the mad push for CIR are all pixilated, disgraceful embarrassments to me and are far too representational of my former Party.

    Short answer….not so much?

    dudeabides (bc873a)


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