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8/14/2010

Obama: I Wasn’t Saying It’s Wise to Put a Mosque at Ground Zero

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 1:29 pm



The courageous Barry O.:

I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque there. I was commenting very specifically on the right people have that dates back to our founding.

Right. As I said last night, you were ducking the tough question to expound on the easy one.

I wonder why he didn’t say this last night?

49 Responses to “Obama: I Wasn’t Saying It’s Wise to Put a Mosque at Ground Zero”

  1. He’s such a great speaker isn’t he?

    Arizona Bob (e8af2b)

  2. that doesn’t explain why he thinks it’s such a great idea to build a victory mosque where all those people died

    happyfeet (19c1da)

  3. Answering a question that wasn’t asked. Would have thought that dodge was played out forever with “depends what the meaning of ‘is’ is”.

    TimesDisliker (866181)

  4. OK, so how about ObamaCare, was it wise to pass it against the will of the people?

    Or, Stimulus, or the ban on drilling in the Gulf, where’s the wisdom?

    ropelight (a9d0be)

  5. Under the logic of Obama, we should all go out and publicly dump Koran’s in toilets, and presumably, consistent with his defense of first Amendment rights, Obama should come out in support of our actions (not merely our right to take the actions). Cordoba House is the equivalent to a bunch of Infidels going into Times Square and dunking Koran’s in urine (something that has been done to Christian symbols to the acclaim of the artistic community)

    Barry Davis (437e61)

  6. I wonder why he didn’t say this last night?

    because he’s a douche-bag, and was hoping that no one would notice him kissing up to his fellow moose slimes??

    redc1c4 (fb8750)

  7. I was against it before I was for it or some such drivel.

    He continually reminds us that he cannot form an opinion and commit to it. He says one thing to appease one group, then feels compelled to throw a bone to an opposing group.

    Those driven by such a high need of approval lose in the end.

    Ultimately, we have a president who continues to vote present.

    Dana (8ba2fb)

  8. let Him be clear it
    like He always say make no
    mistake about it

    ColonelHaiku (2deed7)

  9. The presidency of the United States is become a squalid redoubt of cowardice.

    disgusting.

    happyfeet (19c1da)

  10. I like how Andy McCarthy put it: Obama is trying to close Pandora’s box.

    Yep.

    Dana (8ba2fb)

  11. This is a correction in less than twenty-four hours. We must really be getting to him.

    htom (412a17)

  12. Because he’s an idiot.

    Mike Myers (3c9845)

  13. I have long said that we should, as a matter of law, deny them the right to build there. Every right can give way to a compelling interest, if the action is narrowly tailored to serve it. As a matter of the war powers of the United States, we have a compelling interest in preventing any action that would be seen by our enemies as a sign of surrender. You do not have the free speech right to walk into a battlefield and wave a flag of surrender, even if the battlefield is in the U.S., even if you are standing on your own property.

    That is true of any mosque, and notice I didn’t say anything bad about its creators. And I have repeatedly specifically said there were good Muslims, Muslims who were even noble, who claimed their faith as the inspiration for the acts that made them noble in my eyes.

    But let’s talk about the creators. Let’s talk about their ties to Iran (see pajamas media), their funding from al Qaeda, their choice of the name Cordoba, and the founder’s inability to condemn terror, but remarkable ability to condemn the U.S. There is good reason to say that even if generally mosques at ground zero is okay, this one shouldn’t be built.

    Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (f97997)

  14. btw, krauthammer’s weekly column is on the subject, and i think he has a slightly different take, but is getting it basically right.

    Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (f97997)

  15. So, once again he voted, “Present.” That really isn’t much of a surprise.

    Just for once, couldn’t he vote, “Absent?”

    The Dana who can see through the bovine feces (8a8a86)

  16. Obama is an idiot and a coward.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  17. Just for once, couldn’t he vote, “Absent?”
    Comment by The Dana who can see through the bovine feces

    I think he has on protecting the border, but I feel your pain…

    I don’t know much about it, but a son of Dan Quayle (sp?) is running for Congress in AZ or Texas and has an add where he is calling Obama “the worst President in US history”.

    MD in Philly (5a98ff)

  18. MD in Philly, I can’t agree with Quayle but only because I still rank Woodrow Wilson as the worst.

    But given another couple of months, I could change my mind …

    SPQR (26be8b)

  19. “I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque there…” — Barack Obama

    Meanwhile, in Obama’s screwed-up mind:

    “But if I did comment, I’d proclaim that America, through its history of imperialism, intolerance, racism and slavery, sort of left itself wide open to the nihilists (not terrorists! Nihilists!) of 9-11.

    “Now let’s drop this goddamn controversy. I’ve got to find another king or emperor to bow down to.

    “Assalamu alaikum!”

    Mark (411533)

  20. SPQR

    You may be correct, but I think we can agree that the exact spot in the pecking order of a Rogue’s Gallery is less important than one’s presence on the list.

    MD in Philly (5a98ff)

  21. Moonbat Greg Sargent’s spectacular useful idiocy titled “One of the Finest Moment’s of Obama’s Presidency” is running in its full glory over at the failing Washington Post (down $97.00 per share in the past month.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/08/obama_takes_on_the_demagogues.html?hpid=topnews

    Schumer meanwhile might soon have a race on his hands thanks to Obama, Rangel etc.

    LaFong (0cdca8)

  22. I apologize to anybody who may have misunderstood my attempt to restate the obvious and avoid saying anything controversial.

    B. Obama

    daleyrocks (940075)

  23. I have long said that we should, as a matter of law, deny them the right to build there.

    Well, I have long said that as a matter of policy we should prohibit any Muslim immigration to the US. Do that and we won’t have to worry about mosques.

    subotai (e8b159)

  24. “…I will not comment…”–The New Messiah

    Every real American’s dream.

    Dave Surls (8de556)

  25. So, who do you think was the person who called up Barry on the phone and told him that he had acted stupidly last night when he spoke about the ground zero mosque?

    elissa (5d7042)

  26. So, who do you think was the person who called up Barry on the phone and told him that he had acted stupidly last night when he spoke about the ground zero mosque?

    Comment by elissa — 8/14/2010 @ 8:15 pm
    Hillary Clinton?

    No-bs! (e304f6)

  27. A muslim ALWAYS lies!To advance the cause of islam; lies are a necessity.
    Obama demonstrated on which side he’s on!

    Inge (f88ae2)

  28. “Spine”? Meet “less”.

    Icy Texan (ca7093)

  29. oops! The teleprompter was broken or it was headed to the Gulf coast. Did you see the prompter yesterday on the coast? The leader of the free world can’t speak off the cuff? One termer for sure!

    Atlanta Media Guy (60d291)

  30. Should Nazis wearing swatiskas and flying a flag with swastikas be allowed to march through a Jewish neighborhood of New York? There is no doubt they have the right to do so – but should they? Liberals being tolerant folk, would likely say “yes,” in the abstract. But only in the abstract. In the abstract I can agree with the liberal proposition that islam is a religion of peace but given the enormous numbers of murders that radical islamists have committed world-wide in the last several years Americans are justified in considering all muslims as problematical people. If built the NY mosque will become a place of pilgrimage for radical islamists and for those muslims who support them- and probably for thousands of America-hating liberals as well.

    mhr (efa965)

  31. Sub

    > Well, I have long said that as a matter of policy we should prohibit any Muslim immigration to the US. Do that and we won’t have to worry about mosques.

    And what about people who are muslims who are already here? Deport them?

    What if people convert? Or do we forbid that, too?

    Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (f97997)

  32. Why do I keep having this “vision” of this mosque built with Saudi money, being destroyed when a derange individual hijacks a Saudi (or other Muslim nation) airliner and smashes it into the newly built structure while NYFD and NYPD watch it burn to the ground (and cheer) ?

    Imagine the effort that will be required to protect this mosque.

    Neo (7830e6)

  33. He made it very clear that he will not say the mosque idea is unwise.

    Amphipolis (e01538)

  34. I’m continually amazed at this guy’s utter lack of getting a clue about politics in general. He seems to be unable to resist wading into issues that he should STFU about, and events like “the policeman acted stupidly,” suing a state that’s only trying to enforce a law that their own Federal Gov’t won’t do, and now this additional unforced error. But it all serves a useful purpose, since no one believes his walkbacks anymore, they take his first statements on any issue as fact – the emperor truly has no clothes.

    Dmac (d61c0d)

  35. Obama says that we have been traumatized by 9/11 and are acting on emotions.

    I want to know why Obama wasn’t likewise traumatized.

    Arizona Bob (e8af2b)

  36. Arizona

    His buddy aires was busy stomping on an american flag on the front page of the NY Times on the morning of 9-11. it makes you wonder.

    Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (f97997)

  37. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion? How many dhimmis can walk about the “holy” city of Mecca? How many synagogues and churches are allowed in Saudi Arabia?

    Have no fear Obama, the assclowns of South Florida still love you. They don’t expect you to quickly right the wrongs of the evil BushHitler administration in a mere two years.

    aoibhneas (47f3ae)

  38. I’d admire Obama more ( not a lot, just more … ) if he had stuck to his original point.

    But nope, he confirmed to me that he is the coward I’ve always thought.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  39. it makes you wonder.

    I assume this is rhetorical, since we have no need to wonder at all anymore. He’s been exactly what we all thought he’d be, and perhaps even worse, if that’s even possible.

    Dmac (d61c0d)

  40. Dmac, quite a bit worse than I thought in all honesty.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  41. He was arrogant enough to claim that he would control the environment (“the ocean levels”) and be the one to “begin” healing people.

    His friends (that we could identify) were domestic terrorists.

    His voting record in the Ill. Senate was noteworthy for supporting the most radical “abortion” rights policy ever, when the rest of the time he didn’t bother to register a vote.

    He made obscene gestures (“in disguise”) toward his opposition from the podium in public. Immature by 7th grade standards.

    He has only surprised me by how incompetent he has appeared at it, but he seems to be accomplishing a great deal of what he wants anyway, which frightens me.

    MD in Philly (ff9465)

  42. ___________________________________

    I want to know why Obama wasn’t likewise traumatized.

    I won’t go into the pathetic details, but there is a relative of mine who on the morning of 9-11, while watching news footage of the twin towers being hit or collapsing, was prattling on in a way that reminded me of one of the millions of Americans watching OJ fleeing from the cops on the busy freeways of LA. IOW, instead of acting with shock and horror, and anger too, she was treating the tragedy as through she were a spectator at a demolition derby.

    The person I’m referring to is of the left and a big fan of Obama—which I even overheard her say a few weeks ago.

    Of course, there are liberals who truly have their heart (if not head) screwed on correctly. But I know there also is a percentage of the left — I won’t say whether it’s large or small — that is very much similar to the former guru and close adviser of Obama. I’m referring to Jeremiah Wright, who said that 9-11 was the “chickens coming home to roost.”

    I have a strong hunch the emotions of the person I personally observed on 9-11 were mirrored in Wright and, in turn, his former close buddy, the guy now in the White House.

    I wouldn’t be so disgusted by such liberals if they at least didn’t fall for the notion that their ideology instilled in them — or emanated from — a lot of compassion and great humaneness.

    Mark (411533)

  43. #41 MD in Philly:

    He has only surprised me by how incompetent he has appeared at it, but he seems to be accomplishing a great deal of what he wants anyway, which frightens me.

    I was also surprised at how incompetent he appeared at the beginning. Figuring him as a true believer in the socialist sense, I assumed that he couldn’t possibly think that America was ready for a moral and intellectual rejection of the old order even if he saw himself in the Gramscian role of an “organic” intellectual.

    But I might well have been wrong: He mayhaps really does believe that he is the Marxist Messiah come to deliver mankind from “oppression” and into the blissful Soviet.

    EW1(SG) (edc268)

  44. Interrupted by the whistle on my teapot~ If he does believe that he is, it might explain why he appears (to me) to be overreaching, and even in a way daring a confrontation with the forces of counterrevolution.

    He might believe that he (and his) could win such a contest.

    EW1(SG) (edc268)

  45. EW1(SG), I think that Obama knows he’s burned most of his political capital already and he won’t be getting much back the rest of his term.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  46. #45 SPQR: I agree, but I think he may be under the impression that he is close enough to bringing about the “revolution” that it doesn’t matter: that by the end of his term it will have commenced.

    EW1(SG) (edc268)

  47. The One’s spokesliar Bill Burton tried to walk back the walk back today.

    JD (a30317)

  48. LOL! Of course he did.

    EW1(SG) (edc268)

  49. that doesn’t explain why he thinks it’s such a great idea to build a victory mosque where all those people died…a book publisher will pick this up soon.

    Stevy Orleams (1bc7d5)


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