Lefties: Sarah Palin Totally Embarrasses Herself by Having Conversation with Critic
Apparently this is supposed to be humiliating to Sarah Palin or something:
It’s tough to hear, so here is a transcript, adapted from a post by a Kos Kiddie who finds the whole thing hi-larious:
Palin: like how? What’s up?
Kathleen: You swore on your precious Bible that you would uphold the interests of this state, and then when cash was waved in front of your face, you quit.
Palin: OH, you WANTED me to be your governor! I’m honored! Thank you!
Kathleen: No, I wanted you to honor your responsibilities. That is what I wanted. I wanted you to be part of the political process instead of becoming a celebrity so that you could (inaudible). And if that is the best you could do, then good for you. If that’s the best you could do.
Palin: Here’s the deal. Here’s the deal. (inaudible) That’s what I’m out there fighting for Americans to be able to have a Constitution protected so that we can have free speech…And ALSO there…
Kathleen: In what way are you fighting for that?
Palin: Oh my goodness!
Kathleen: In what way?
Palin: To elect candidates who understand the Constitution, to protect our military interests so that we can keep on fighting for our constitution that will protect some of the freedoms that evidently are important to you too.
Kathleen: By using your celebrity status, certainly not by political status.
Palin Daughter: How is she a celebrity? That’s my question.
Palin: I’m honored! No, she thinks I’m a celebrity!
Palin Daughter: That’s funny that you think she is.
Kathleen: Well, you’re certainly not representing the state of Alaska any longer…even though…
Palin Daughter: She’s representing the United States.
Kathleen: Yes, I know. You belong to America now, and that suits me just fine. Yeah.
Palin: What do you do here?
Kathleen: I’m a teacher.
Palin: Oh. [Here the lefties claim Palin rolls her eyes. Palin denies it.]
Palin Daughter: Oh.
Kathleen: Also I have a few other jobs. I’m married to a commercial fisherman. And so I fish.
Palin: Oh that’s cool. So am I! I’m married to — we probably have a lot in common!
Kathleen: Yeah. You know, I think that we do.
Palin: Hi! (waves to camera) Are we on video?
Kathleen: Too bad. I’m more of a still camera girl myself. (inaudible) I am, I am…I will tell you I’m very pleased to meet you.
Palin: I’m honored to meet you, I really am. And, no we both agree on the freedom of speech and the —
Kathleen: Yes we do.
Palin: — you know – the protection of that. So, um, no I and, you know… best of everything to you too and, yeah.
Kathleen: Thank you for coming over.
Palin: Well, okay. It’s nice to meet you anyway.
How embarrassing! Or something.
they both come across as being kind of obnoxious I think
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/9/2010 @ 6:28 pmI guessed that the woman lecturing Palin was probably a schoolteacher about three seconds into this thing.
Andrew (9ba8e3) — 8/9/2010 @ 6:29 pmHer tone of voice or something.
“To elect candidates who understand the Constitution, to protect our military interests so that we can keep on fighting for our constitution that will protect some of the freedoms that evidently are important to you too.”
Why does anyone think this woman is not an opportunistic, ambitious politician like all the rest, only less bright? Does anyone seriously consider this statement as anything other than a politician’s answer?
I’ve never heard her say anything that amounts to more than vague platitudes. She wears her ignorance like it’s a badge.
She’s the 21st century Dan Quayle.
JEA (813ed4) — 8/9/2010 @ 6:33 pmJEA, in another thread, you demonstrated your ignorance by implying that “war bonds” were not government borrowing. Why are you claiming that Sarah Palin is ignorant? A 21st Century Dan Quayle? That’s strong coming from you.
SPQR (26be8b) — 8/9/2010 @ 6:36 pmThis is posted under Annette’s Diaries at Kos. Clearly not too much going on for Annette these days.
It’s stupid all the way around. Nobody likes a scold, which is what they both reminded me of.
Kudos to the sassy brass of Palin daughter.
Dana (8ba2fb) — 8/9/2010 @ 6:45 pmTurns out chatty Kathy (Gustafson) is more a family
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/9/2010 @ 6:48 pmplanning activist, and local leftwing playwright, you know just folk.
Right then and there, I knew Kathleen was a Christian-basher who was not interested in any truth but to just bash Palin and using Palin’s declared Christianity to try to bash Palin. Upon further reading, Kathleen proved further and further that she had no interest at all in an honest discussion. Sarah and her daughter get high grades for even being civil with Kathleen.
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/9/2010 @ 6:50 pmfeets, if you saw this as Palin being obnoxious, then you have completely failed as an objective observer….the woman in the video accuses Palin of leaving politics to be a celebrity (can there be a bigger insult to “plain folks” than to be called a “celebrity?”) and complains that she’s now using the “celebrity status” instead of “political status”….of course, the woman does admit at the same time that now Palin represents the US rather than Alaska (why would that be a bad thing, unless the woman thinks that Palin was good for Alaska???)…which in my mind proves the woman a hypocrite in her argument….
The woman is insulting, and Palin stood there and took it…would you have been strong enough to do the same???
reff (176333) — 8/9/2010 @ 6:55 pmLevi for mayor?
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/9/2010 @ 6:55 pmI would like to see how POTUS handles this kind of thing. Oh, wait. We did find out, and the press didn’t think it was a big deal.
Because that’s different.
Eric Blair (f3a85f) — 8/9/2010 @ 6:55 pmAnother thought occurred to me, how dumb is it JEA, to label someone the “21st Century Dan Quayle” when the Democrats put “Slow Joe” Joe Biden in office as Vice President?
SPQR (26be8b) — 8/9/2010 @ 6:58 pmThe clip shows signs of editing at the 34 second mark, what could be called ‘Couricking’ the transcript is also ellipsed, by the folks that first
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/9/2010 @ 6:59 pmintroduced Trig Trutherism into the word, just ahead
of the Journolist, but that won’t matter because she’s asking for it, is that right, pikachu
yes reff they were both obnoxious … the crazy lady with her gratuitous sneerings about the bible and her weirdly ginormous sign in the middle of nowheres and Sarah with her oozing insincerity and vapid slurkness
gack
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:00 pmJEA, I thought that was the perfect tone to take.
Obama may be a coward to his critics, but Sarah Palin politely asks ‘what’s up’? notes that freedom of political speech is sacred, and finds some common ground with someone who is trying so hard to hate her guts.
Some will see absolutely anything Palin does as obnoxious or opportunistic… even this. Even politely confronting some nutcase with a huge sign, screaming about bibles.
LOL.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:00 pmPalin engaged the woman in front of a “worst governor ever” banner that is longer than my garage>
The woman didn’t like her much, but unlike Joe the plumber, there won’t be a swarm of activists trying to destroy her.
I thought Palin was fine and it ended on an up note.
SteveG (f6fb69) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:04 pmI think she handled it better than Obama would have
She’s *always* like that. Everyone who actually deals with her first hand says that this is who she really is. I realize it’s not really polished. It’s not really even all that charming. But it’s only seeming insincere to you because you insist it’s not sincere. What indicates she’s not sincere? Her constant, ceaseless, oozing of this attitude you hate so much?
Maybe she really is this person, sincerely. Maybe she’s just not ashamed of who she is.
I don’t know the word ‘slurk’. Urban dictionary says it means to “sneak lurk creep prowl move ”
You’re just saying ugly sounding words… that simply isn’t a reasonable interpretation of Palin’s behavior here or anywhere else. She’s not sneaking or lurking…. she’s coming up and saying ‘Here I am, this person you have been programed to hate. What’s up?’
How can you not appreciate that? It’s the exact opposite of the Joe the Plumber deal, where some guy is lectured about how he should like socialism, when he’s minding his own business.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:06 pmTeh Won just wants to eat his waffle!
AD - RtR/OS! (780d5b) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:10 pmshe’s just all drama all the time I think and it’s not even interesting drama it’s vapid slurk drama like on the CW
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:14 pmThis of whom I was speaking;
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:14 pmhttp://homertribune.com/2009/08/in-a-cave-%E2%80%A6-in-the-rain/
The Urban Dictionary, ‘a greater den of scum and villainy can’t be found’
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:15 pmHmm. Sincerity is one of those interesting concepts. Why, I know some very insincere people who are very concerned with that trait in others.
Eric Blair (d70178) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:17 pmYou get dizzy reading the lamestream spin. Up is down, black is white. The truth is, Sarah Palin was pleasant, polite, & smiling; Gustafson was huffy, obnoxious, and self-righteous–just another hater. Lamestreamers say “Sarah’s people” tore down the banner. Where is the video of that? Gustafson was holding one end in her hand. When she let it go, it had to fall. But logic, facts, and what you actually see & hear don’t matter. Weird!
Randall Thorpe (9182c1) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:18 pmthe CW is where Gilmore Girls comes from, right? I don’t watch much TV, but that’s what I recall.
No, that’s not Palin at all. In fact, this ‘insincerity’ that Palin refuses to stop pretending to ooze, almost as though she’s simply like that without acting, is pretty much the opposite of that babbling kind of CW show.
I think a lot of people would like Palin more if she actually was insincere in the CW way.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:18 pm“Sarah with her oozing insincerity and vapid slurkness”
Sometimes I wonder if people like hf actually know any ordinary people. You know, just the regular kinds of people who work in tool shops and stores, who hunt or spend the weekend driving 4-wheelers around, women who like to knit, or people who still go bowling.
No. HF knows just how to tell when somebody he doesn’t know isn’t being sincere. And he just oozes sincerity himself with that false kiddy voice?
“gack”
That’s the one appropriate line in your comment.
Gesundheit (aab7c6) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:19 pmoooooooooooooh
Gesundheit makes a good point.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:22 pmI was thinking more of Gossip Girl except for as an aside I would say that Leighton Meester is for reals talented and way too good for that show I think
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:24 pm“Oozing” is quite a word. Daley, it’s all yours.
Eric Blair (d70178) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:24 pmNever heard of her or that show. But that’s a fruitful GIS.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:25 pmAnnnd Sarah handled herself well
I too faced a similarf banner hung over a house but after a few weeks my wife told the kids to take it down
EricPWJohnson (ec4091) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:25 pmYa see, the problem is, Palin has this off-putting down-to-earh charisma about her that elitists do not like. She’s too country bumpkin to be an elitist. She’s too turn-the-other-cheek to be a power-broker. She’s too JOYful (Jesus first, Others second, Yourself last) to be taken seriously. She’s too willing to “love your enemies” for her enemies. And worst of all, the class bullies (such as HF and EPWJ) hate her style because it enrages them and doesn’t give them an out to punch her in the nose without showing their true colors!
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:25 pmPalin: Hi! (waves to camera) Are we on video?
that’s probably the takeaway right there
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:26 pmSarah with her oozing insincerity and vapid slurkness
gack
I think the more cynical we become, the less we are able to recognize and relate to simple sincerity. And these are cynical days to be sure. I have to say that while I don’t doubt Palin’s sincerity in the vid, cloying and syrupy popped in my head …but at least I recognize my own cynicism.
The lefty-with-the-agenda-scold with the sign is precisely what we *should* expect. Anything else would be honest and forthright.
Dana (8ba2fb) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:27 pmgahkh, “down-to-earh” == “down-to-earth”
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:29 pmmy laptop has kb issues
I think it is interesting to see the kinds of people who accuse Ms. Palin of insincerity.
Eric Blair (d70178) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:31 pmYa know, artsy Dana, when I was reading Sarahcuda’s book, I started out thinking “Little House on the Prairie” with extra maple syrup, but over time, it boiled down to LHOP without the syrup. And I like LHOP style.
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:33 pmEric Blair, it is as funny as the kind of people who call her stupid …
SPQR (26be8b) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:34 pmJohn
I dunno, leaving a minor unsupervised, flip flopping on spending, mishandling interviews, sure lets leave the country in the hands of a woman who hasnt handled much, after all it worked out so well for Obama
EricPWJohnson (ec4091) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:34 pmAnd the troll continues to stink up another thread with the same DK Talking Points.
Just a Melville.
Eric Blair (f3a85f) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:40 pmEPWJ already lost every single one of those arguments.
‘flip flopping on spending’ = having one of the best reformist records and strongest budgets in the nation during her tenure. She increased the budget in one area that needed and increase, while reducing the budget where it warranted a cut. That’s not flip flopping, moron. Just a dumb concern troll pretending Palin is a big spender. He posted a link earlier today to ‘prove’ his point… except he just posted a random link hoping no one would read it.
Her ‘minor was unsupervised’. WTF does this even mean? Does EPWJ never let his teenage daughter out of his sight? Is he one of those honor killing types?
Either that or his repeated lying, including provable lies about his kids (stolen valor type crap) shows he doesn’t have kids at all, and his insane standard is just born of his rage at conservatives.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:41 pmGood Allah. It is a slow news day when the KozKiddiez are obsessing over Palin talking to a rude lady. EPWJ remains a nozzle of douche.
JD (d55760) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:43 pmSome wag once said that the secret to acting was “sincerity”: Once you could fake that, everything else would fall into place.
AD - RtR/OS! (780d5b) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:43 pmKirk’s line from ‘Wrath of Khan’ the best Trek film, bar none, seems to fit ‘you keep missing the target, Khan” as Dieter used to say on SNL, ‘you have become tiresome’
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:45 pmAnd I guess I should amend: Palin ain’t my first choice for president. I just note that EPWJ is full of BS.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:47 pmOnce more, rarely do we receive our first choice; mostly we get the least bad, like decisions in warfare.
AD - RtR/OS! (780d5b) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:49 pmYeah, my first and second choices won’t make it. They would be Alan Keyes and Fred Thompson. So I’ll settle for next best, a Palin/Bachmann ticket.
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/9/2010 @ 7:59 pmAmen, AD, and John.
I’m not asking for perfect.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 8/9/2010 @ 8:03 pm“Her ‘minor was unsupervised’. WTF does this even mean? Does EPWJ never let his teenage daughter out of his sight? Is he one of those honor killing types?”
Leaving minors unsupervised might have different consequences in Saudi Arabia, especially the female types, just sayin’.
Sand between the ears may be tough from pee wee to remove after so many years of living in a totalitarian regime.
daleyrocks (940075) — 8/9/2010 @ 8:09 pmWe got “perfect” in 2008, and look how that’s working out for us.
AD - RtR/OS! (780d5b) — 8/9/2010 @ 8:10 pmThe libs absolutely hate Palin. The libs absolutely hate Bachmann. Just imagine the liberal ads attacking a Palin/Bachmann ticket. The level of ascerbic vitriol would be off the scale!
But the libs’ problem is We the People are absolutely dead-set against the Obama agenda. So, if the Obama folks are viciously attacking Palin/Bachmann (since they won’t be able to help themselves), and the population is anti-Obama, that would mean… The enemy of my enemy is my friend. And the absolute vitriol of Obama sycophants would actually be a selling point.
Yeah, I’m talking to the Palin basher Obama sycophants who are spreading their bat goana all over this site (who I can no longer read).
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/9/2010 @ 8:12 pm(and please quit quoting them and bypassing my script) 😀
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/9/2010 @ 8:14 pmYa know, artsy Dana, when I was reading Sarahcuda’s book, I started out thinking “Little House on the Prairie” with extra maple syrup, but over time, it boiled down to LHOP without the syrup. And I like LHOP style.
I, too, love LHOP style in the the original books (which the TV show did not resemble), so I appreciate the insight, JH. I didn’t read Palin’s book so I can’t really speak to it.
Dana (8ba2fb) — 8/9/2010 @ 8:21 pm““Oozing” is quite a word. Daley, it’s all yours.”
Eric – Not as young as I used to be, I’ll look for some little blue pills.
Meanwhile I see the same crew peddling the same risible tropes, the facts and evidence supporting them either entirely absent or oozed away like pus from the suppurating sores of their tiny imaginations.
daleyrocks (940075) — 8/9/2010 @ 8:26 pmI know this much, if Team R runs Palin/Bachman, not only will that guarantee Barcky’s re-election, but might keep Pelosi as Speaker.
JD (d55760) — 8/9/2010 @ 8:38 pmArtsy Dana, not quite sure you caught everything I threw. Likely because I didn’t throw it all quite so clearly. Palin in person is quite like Palin on paper. LHOP.
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/9/2010 @ 8:40 pmAS was all these instances, there is almost always a total lack of integrity on the part of these people:
http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2010/08/09/kathleen-gustafson-radio-stunt/
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/9/2010 @ 8:46 pmfeets, if you had a camera/recorder stuck in your face every time you moved in public, you’d learn too how to handle it with kindness….
But, you’ve just become a jerk….
Actually, not “just” become a jerk, because “just” when used here might be interpreted as happening recently….I mean it as a simple change….
sorry that it happened…..
reff (176333) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:02 pmJH, what I took from your comment was that Palin (via her book) is much the tone and sincerity of LHOP (the books, not the tv show). No?
Dana (8ba2fb) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:15 pmMr. reff the frivolous person in that video is in no way shape or form prepared to be the president of the United States. It’s a silly fantasy. But one that is doing much harm to the process of finding a candidate what might could beat Obama. Sorry if I’m doing it wrong but my little country needs people to speak up I think.
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:23 pmCan’t see Barry engaging angry constituents like Sarah. He doesn’t have the gonads to do so, since he’s too busy traveling around the country cowardly avoiding his pitiful record and “Blaming Boosh.” Sarah must have cut off figuratively cut off Barry’s berries when she became a private citizen. Oh well, Barry’s good at what he does best: OBAMA (Obnoxiously Blame And Malign Another), which will most certainly backfire on the Dems.
DVS1 (53cca4) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:24 pmWell pikachu, you’re going the wrong way about it, the more you insult her, the more likely we will
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:34 pmredouble our efforts in support of her. Which will not redound to the benefit of your preferred candidate
Would it were Mr. cormac I don’t have a preferred candidate anymore he done got cuisinarted already by the vapid slurk’s posse.
It was the most awful thing I ever seen.
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:38 pmMr. Feet, you don’t seem to hold the majority opinion here, and less so each day. And though I have not a chance of getting through to you, let me try again: you damage your own wishes with this silly act of yours. Stick to policies that you don’t like, and you’ll get farther. The insulting and highly sexist schtick doesn’t help you.
Unless your goal is, as I am starting to think, to act like a troll. Seriously. Drop the act, and stick to policies. Seeing how close you can get to potty mouth terminology does not suggest you are serious—and yet you say you are.
And by the way, you seem very sure you are correct about things, when your manner is highly personal and vindictive. You should probably try to think outside your own preconceived notions. Snark and this odd act you play around here are acting against the goodwill that you have earned over the years. You look like you have personal issues with people, rather than policy issues.
There is a big difference between honesty and tactlessness.
But hey, if you want to fight and snark and carry on as you have been, knock yourself out. But you are damaging your own ability to convince and persuade others. Maybe you just want to sound snarky and argue with people. But it doesn’t fit well with your supposed concern for the future of this country, does it?
Eric Blair (d70178) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:38 pmPalin and her book are much the same as the LHOP books (and the peripheral books, Caroline, Caroline’s mother, Caroline’s grandmother, Rose), not just Palin through her book.
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:39 pmicky cults of personality are icky
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:43 pmDang, EB, you wrote a book there. I much prefer my method.
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:45 pmGo visit Rightosphere and tell me of personality cults for the Golden Mittens, some of whom decamp toward Daniels, but with the same contempt
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:47 pmfeets at #64…
Please, look in the mirror when you read your post to yourself….
reff (176333) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:50 pmMr. Hitchcock, I have friends who I respect who think highly of the guy. I just want him to quit being a potty mouth, particularly about women. Perhaps that makes me a sexist, too.
It’s his choice, but the point is that it tends to drive off people. But hey, not my blog.
Again, some people who I know and respect think highly of the guy. There is something I am not seeing. So I keep looking.
Eric Blair (d70178) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:50 pmMr. cormac when x number of people are bejibbering at a little pikachu just for cause he defiantly refuses to bow before the altar of the sacred slurk what we are most definitely not doing is selecting a pezzydent
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:51 pmI used to think he was cutesy-quirky with a chauvinistic tinge. My opinion of him has changed since. He’s an anti-Christian hater who hates him some certain women and hates him some Palin and hates him some people who deliver facts to his delusions.
And his schtick is as funny as September 10, 1989.
I’ve turned the other cheek with him enough times that all four of them are bruised. No more.
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:55 pmYou’re being a Bender, not a pikachu, about it
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/9/2010 @ 9:56 pmSigh. Okay, I tried, Mr. Feet. You aren’t helping. And I am increasingly convinced you like all this, either the controversy, the martyr-act you just pulled, or some combination between.
Or you are just drunk a lot.
Just consider two things: (i) how is what you are doing that different from a troll trying to irritate people?, and (ii) how does your act make Axelrod feel?
I don’t expect anything reasonable in response, just more weirdness.
I wish you well.
Eric Blair (d70178) — 8/9/2010 @ 10:03 pmMr. Hitchcock, I read your link. I do not know any of the particulars, nor are they my business. But you have my deepest condolences. I just went upstairs to check on my sons while they sleep.
Some things are much more important than politics or strange word games. Thank you for the reminder of that fact.
Eric Blair (d70178) — 8/9/2010 @ 10:05 pmEric Blair – You don’t see feets talking about Nancy Pelosi’s coochie pie or Barbara Boxer’s for that matter. Think on that while you enjoy a tasty beverage, but do not bow at the altar of hasty conclusions.
Remember one of Mr. Feets friends in pop fashionista insane griefer Nishi.
daleyrocks (940075) — 8/9/2010 @ 10:12 pmPalin made this woman look like a jerk. End of story.
Dave B (5fd381) — 8/9/2010 @ 10:13 pmNow that I did not know, daley. I hope that is not true. Because nishi was nuttier than a PayDay bar and dishonest.
Much to think about, now.
Eric Blair (d70178) — 8/9/2010 @ 10:15 pmI think the Democrats have shown us how a responsible statesman handles this situation. Sarah should have grabbed her by the neck and demanded to know who she was, while stealing her phone.
Machinist (497786) — 8/9/2010 @ 11:30 pmMachinist, I also think that she should have been a few sheets to the wind on liquor. That incident really bugged me. I hope that character loses the upcoming election, but I’m guessing not. Maybe voters are afraid of being batted around.
Eric Blair (d70178) — 8/9/2010 @ 11:43 pmI like Mrs. Palin but don’t think she should run for president, simply because it will coax out extra armies of Dems to vote against her out of sheer squealing hatred. And the R’s really need to win in ’12 (not that I love the R’s either, they’re just less dangerous at this point.) It may not be Palin’s fault, but the reality is that she’s too polarizing. Her best and most useful role, which she’s playing right now, is to be a troops-rallier, an incremental king-maker, a charismatic voice for her camp, and a delightfully perpetual fly in Obama’s ointment.
Inertia being what it is, Obama will be re-elected unless the R’s can find someone truly, truly capable of demolishing him in debate. I mean both out-talking him by miles, and also making him look like a fool on points. And the R will never be judged the winner by simple decision, it will have to be an overwhelming, spectacular victory, a perfect SAT as it were. Despite her natural charisma, I don’t think Palin can handle that. She doesn’t have Obama’s level of sophistication, her policy views are more heartfelt than well-expounded, and in ’12 he will be running on years of actual experience as Pres, which makes the field different than it was in ’08.
I think Chris Christie could do the job of overwhelming Obama in debate, but he’ll probably still be too green in ’12. It’s too bad, because a Christie-Obama debate is something I’d pay a lot to see. The rest of the current mainstream R’s are not up to that task. They had better keep looking, and they had better start someone working out in the debate gym right now, because Romney, Huck, Gingrich (GINGRICH??!?) et al. ain’t gonna cut it. Palin can deliver crucial support from the flanks, but if she goes in against Obama by herself, she’ll hit the canvas in Round One.
d. in c. (359478) — 8/9/2010 @ 11:58 pmd.in.c
I dont think the MSM is going to let anyone in a debate even have a chance of out talking Obama and they will invite every Huckabee and Paul to make the conservatives side a freak show like in 08
Palin, is a strong vibrant personality that attracts alot of people who have been starved for something than the normal fare.
Interjecting reality that she cant handle even routine family functions (which pale in comparison to Gore, Clinton, and many other Democrats – but conservative Christians who are the king makers in presidential elections are not going to run a score card – its only Palin they will be assessing), is using the political process to grossly enrich herself far beyond what anyone has ever done before (it used to be a patriotic duty to serve to serv your country – hey now it pays really really well)
Palin has an okay if uneventful two years as Governor and a uneven record as a mayor (really just such a small small town) and has shown that she is strongly anti business when on the commission in Alaska, We have a tendency to equate pretty speeches and fighting for the constitution with technical and legislative prowess.
Its interesting that in all the decrees here that no one has said what she was planning to do
no one
EricPWJohnson (ec4091) — 8/10/2010 @ 2:44 am“Another thought occurred to me, how dumb is it JEA, to label someone the “21st Century Dan Quayle” when the Democrats put “Slow Joe” Joe Biden in office as Vice President?”
Biden’s no prize either. He’s a gaffe-a-minute embarrassment. But Biden’s resume is at least a lot thicker than hers. And even though he can’t speak for ten minutes in public without putting his loafer in his mouth, he, unlike Palin, demonstrates some understanding of issues.
Being mayor of an Alaskan village and half a term as governor – which she took off from when it got difficult faster than a turkey from a farmer with an ax – should impress me, why, exactly?
Because she spits out pre-planned one-liners that are good sound bites? So she can motivate a crowd of people who already like her. Obama can do that. Neither is being presidential.
What exactly qualifies this woman for national office? Nothing I’ve seen. She’s just another political hack. Conservatives have been taken in by her, and she’s taking all of you to the bank.
Given the choice between her and Quayle, I’d take Quayle.
JEA (53fe4f) — 8/10/2010 @ 4:15 amPS – As for the ‘war bonds’ crack, try opening a history book. War bonds were sold to Americans, not foreigners. They were a way of being patriotic, supporting our soldiers and the country’s war effort (from the Civil War on). They were a willing sacrifice made by civilians. They were an investment – the government promised to pay the bondholder back. And we did.
The debt for these two wars is held by many institutions, including other countries like China.
Who, BTW, now can hold our debt over our heads as leverage. That sound good to you?
JEA (53fe4f) — 8/10/2010 @ 4:23 amAnd she had an 80% popularity rating in her state, until they turned on the slime machine, Any candidate will be shredded by it, Christie got a little taste of it, with the tickets he received, that he had some trouble disposing, Brown with the notion that he somehow wanted women to be raped.
Menawhile, no one can tell what the heck Obama did in the State of US Senate, almost two years since the storm. Biden who was exalted as some elder statemman, where is more like the Al Bundy of the Senate, clearly has some family issues but those aren’t dwelled with excessively. It’s just of the way of the world, now I’d rather that our side not trade in patented lies, long debunked,
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/10/2010 @ 4:35 amThe Palin encounter with the (alleged) “teacher” reminds me that while Palin has encountered the “Great Unwashed” on almost a daily basis, our idiot President hasn’t had an encounter with an unscreened average American since that unfortunate episode with “Joe the Plumber”.
Neo (7830e6) — 8/10/2010 @ 5:02 amPalin might be running for President in 2012. Right now, it is too early to tell. She did very well helping the Republican candidates this year for running for the 2010 mid-term election in November. The lefties should leave her alone. She is not the Governor of Alaska anymore.
m (fc559b) — 8/10/2010 @ 5:15 amI read a article from blogger’s website that the woman is not a teacher. She is a singer in band. The lefties can’t make this stuff up. That why Palin is embarrasses. The lefties should leave her alone.
l (fc559b) — 8/10/2010 @ 5:26 amMaybe the early morning is the time to avoid the obnoxious comment vandals. I think they sleep late except for the day they go down to get the unemployment check.
feets, if you saw this as Palin being obnoxious, then you have completely failed as an objective observer
If there was any possibility that this person was “objective,” it has passed.
I don’t know if she will be ready to be a candidate in 2012. It really is next year when the campaign starts.
Mike K (d6b02c) — 8/10/2010 @ 5:30 am“half a term as governor – which [Palin] took off from when it got difficult…”
I dunno, I think you’ve got to give her a lot of credit for craftily eluding the snares the manic Left attack machine laid out for her, and coming out of the trap with her popularity and her agenda (if we can call it that) intact. Very Bugs Bunny-ish, if I say so myself. Still doesn’t mean she oughta be (or even run for) president, but I don’t think she deserves a knock on that score.
Let’s look at what happened….
Palin was plopped onto the national stage from out of the boonies, with almost no preparation at all; she very quickly established herself as a charming but by no means brilliant presence on the scene, easily eclipsed her dud of a running mate, fought reasonably well during the national campaign against a stunningly bitter and highly co-ordinated nation-wide assault of pure rage-filled hatred, and remained vividly in the public’s memory even after she’d lost. (Something Dan Quayle couldn’t pull off.)
Returning to Alaska she discovered that the hate-attack campaign of personal destruction waged against her was to continue, despite Obama’s victory already in the can. This tells you that the Left could smell a formidable foe, she fills them with fear, and so they wanted her dispatched for good and all.
So her resignation was actually a brilliant bit of judo: she left office IIRC with her hand-picked successor in the governor’s chair, thus ensuring that her state-wide agenda would continue effectively without the personal sabotage directed at her (viz., a good move for Alaska). Then she managed to cleverly make enough money to pay off her legal fees and leave herself financially independent for life, claim the mantle of Book Author (yes, “Going Rogue” is a piece of piffle, but so are Barry O.’s books; what counts is that Book Author glow), and turn herself into a nationally-recognized political pundit and kingmaker whose Facebook page comments are routinely sifted with trepidation by the Poobahs That Be. She’s made it clear that she ain’t going away, despite an opposition of notable savagery and seething rage.
And she’s done all this in, what? Two years.
Two. Years.
She may not be anyone’s idea of an Oxford don, but what is it that they say in Texas?…
“Ain’t nothing in the world can stop a man in the right, who keeps a-comin’.”
d. in c. (8bd337) — 8/10/2010 @ 5:39 amI’m just struck by how the left just manipulates memes, with Reagan a two term governor of one of the largest states, well he wa just an actor, leaving out he was a union leader, I think the first to subsequently have high office, “Poppy”
was too credentialed, and served in two many high
profile jobs. W was a Harvard MBA and successful governor, but he was stupid. Palin I’ve gone over her CV. Guiliani helped bring NYC from the brink, but I forget exactly why we were supposed to hate him. McCain for all our complaints with him, had
a record of service from the war on, but he was
just a doddering bitter old man, the same trick they pulled on Dole, a dozen years before
The Dems exalt Carter, a naif, Clinton, a lecherous hillbilly, Obama a sleazy machine pol,
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/10/2010 @ 5:46 ampreceded by Edwards who was kind of a hybrid of the first two categories, Kerry a pretensious
lefty wannabe social climber, Dean a certified
psycho, yet they are all presented as reasonable
Did JEA really just criticize someone for having a thin resume? Barcky’s resume was so thin that it made paper seem thick.
JD (a44e13) — 8/10/2010 @ 6:16 amI know, right ‘irony it’s what’s for dinner’ and the things he did vote for, like the gun control
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/10/2010 @ 6:19 amand against the ‘born alive bill’ were not very popular
why the happyfrum
ColonelHaiku (2d4d13) — 8/10/2010 @ 6:31 amchickens cross the road? they need
to come home… TO ROOST
happyfrum sick with
ColonelHaiku (2d4d13) — 8/10/2010 @ 6:33 ampalinscatophobia
he always say sh*t
Palin resigned as governor of Alaska. How can we trust her with greater responsibility?
We do not need another symbol in the White House. We need a leader.
But I agree that this video is not embarassing for her at all.
Amphipolis (b120ce) — 8/10/2010 @ 7:01 amwho released this video exactly how is it that we’re seeing this that’s not explained anywheres
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/10/2010 @ 7:01 amIt appeared on the Huffington Post, under Shannyn Moore’s byline, who really appears to be a hoochie, around Olbermann, at least, she spread the Trig rumors, suggested that folks had turned on Palinat a memorial day event, brought up the embezzlement
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/10/2010 @ 7:09 amcharge, that brought Andrea Mitchell up to Alaska
last summer. This ‘teacher’ is part of her astroturf ring
that’s still doesn’t explain though who filmed it – it seems like it could be another neighbor or maybe someone on team sarah cause the crazy sign lady doesn’t seem to be on board with the filmings
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/10/2010 @ 7:34 am“Well, hell Honey – you’re out here with a freakin’ 20-foot poster that says I’m the worst governor ever or something. How seriously do you expect me to take your helpful suggestions?”
Frank Drebbin (8096f2) — 8/10/2010 @ 7:38 amShannyn the hoochie in your formulation, tweeted earlier that showing up in Homer, was some violation of freedom of speech, for daring to
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/10/2010 @ 7:43 amshowcase the same or something, I’ll find you the tweet. Just like Wasilla for Truth, which formed
the core of the ethics complaints
Mr. Hitchcock, please share your method for troll-hammering (“ignore”)on this blog. Life would be so much more peaceful if I could just skim over certain commenters… I searched for plugins for WordPress but came up empty.
bad cat robot (35a744) — 8/10/2010 @ 7:49 amhere it is Mr. robot the instructions are with the source code
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/10/2010 @ 7:56 amHere ya go, bad cat robot. Is a greasemonkey script for firefox.
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/37488
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/10/2010 @ 8:00 amYep. Huge conspiracy. Everyone’s in on it. Paging Andrew Sullivan. Next stop: tinfoil helmet.
This is pretty tragic, the blind and unthinking hatred I’m seeing. You would think someone who thought so little of Palin would just, you know, let it go.
But of course, people who like Sarah Palin have the problem.
Sheesh.
Eric Blair (d70178) — 8/10/2010 @ 8:08 am1. they both come across as being kind of obnoxious I think
Comment by happyfeet — 8/9/2010 @ 6:28 pm
— Being female, they naturally would; right?
Icy Texan (8e2869) — 8/10/2010 @ 8:13 amThis is the whackadoodle I was referring to,
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_A9i-syqFbVA/TF4W-fc1U8I/AAAAAAAABM8/zh0whlaAYdc/s1600/Moore4.JPG
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/10/2010 @ 8:13 amI’m just curious where the video came from since Palin is up there filming now and she reeks of the stench of reality tv on her best days
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/10/2010 @ 8:14 amWell ‘Now you know, and Knowledge is half the battle”
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/10/2010 @ 8:17 amSigh. You really do want to troll around. You say “reek” and the obvious response occurs.
Me, I’m just curious why you are acting little different from Andrew Sullivan.
Yes, I know: you are just asking questions. That is another excuse trolls have for their reindeer games, come to think of it.
Eric Blair (d70178) — 8/10/2010 @ 8:18 amI’m wondering why both parties of my little country are so intent on scraping the bottom of the presidential candidate barrel it’s like we have no pride or standards anymore
happyfeet (19c1da) — 8/10/2010 @ 8:23 amAd hominem attack spew on aisle three!
Icy Texan (8e2869) — 8/10/2010 @ 8:23 am#102 Ahhh, blessed silence from the trolls! Thank you very much.
bad cat robot (35a744) — 8/10/2010 @ 8:26 am#58
the frivolous person in that video is in no way shape or form prepared to be the president of the United States. It’s a silly fantasy. But one that is doing much harm to the process of finding a candidate what might could beat Obama.
— You hear her calling everywhere you turn
You know you’re headed for the pleasure burn
But the words get stuck on the tip of your tongue
She’s the real thing but you knew it all along
She’s just the girl, just the girl
Icy Texan (8e2869) — 8/10/2010 @ 8:29 amThat u want
She’s just the girl, just the girl
That u want
Comment by EricPWJohnson — 8/10/2010 @ 2:44 am
Interjecting reality that she cant handle even routine family functions (which pale in comparison to Gore, Clinton, and many other Democrats
— Bad mommies make bad presidents, is that it?
Idiot.
Somebody needs to interject (or “inject”) some reality into you.
but conservative Christians who are the king makers in presidential elections are not going to run a score card – its only Palin they will be assessing)
— Conservative Christians crowned King Obama? Suuure they did. I think it’s time for your medicine now.
is using the political process to grossly enrich herself far beyond what anyone has ever done before (it used to be a patriotic duty to serve to serv your country – hey now it pays really really well)
— Let’s see YOU get elected POTUS without funding.
Palin has an okay if uneventful two years as Governor and a uneven record as a mayor (really just such a small small town) and has shown that she is strongly anti business when on the commission in Alaska
— Is this the new meme? that she is “anti business”? Sheesh. Throw it against the wall and see if it sticks, I guess.
We have a tendency to equate pretty speeches and fighting for the constitution[sic] with technical and legislative prowess.
— You have a tendency to equate your bleats with reality . . . but don’t worry, Nurse Ratched is almost here with your meds. After you calm down you can review all of Sarah’s real-world accomplishments. I know that she never displayed the “prowess” of voting “present” over 100 times, but you might gleam some insight nonetheless.
Its interesting that in all the decrees here that no one has said what she was planning to do —
Icy Texan (8e2869) — 8/10/2010 @ 8:54 amno one
— Psst. She’s planning to run for POTUS. Pass it on!
JEA: She’s just another political hack. Conservatives have been taken in by her, and she’s taking all of you to the bank.
— Interesting how all of the haters are riffing on the same meme: that she’s only in it for the money, and she’s fleecing us because she knows that she can’t possibly win. This idea is a little too pat, a little too repetitive to have originated here. I smell the stink of Soros about this one.
Icy Texan (8e2869) — 8/10/2010 @ 9:01 amMy comments are my own, Texan. I don’t pander either party’s line.
I believe, looking at her and listening to her, that she’s no different than anybody in office in DC now. She’s acting just like politicians whom she claims to disparage.
And the most telling thing is how she high-tailed it out of the governor’s office. If she can’t take that heat, you expect her to sit in the Oval Office and take the kind of heat every President gets?
JEA (53fe4f) — 8/10/2010 @ 9:23 amJEA, amusing that you don’t hold Obama to his promises regarding his early exit from the Senate seat. But you just keep calling her stupid while showing that you are not as bright as she is.
SPQR (26be8b) — 8/10/2010 @ 9:25 amSarahcuda gave the media a spanking over this, as was expected.
John Hitchcock (9e8ad9) — 8/10/2010 @ 9:29 amWell he wasn’t doing much with it, except maybe letting survivors of abortion live, so it makes
ian cormac (ab2f02) — 8/10/2010 @ 9:31 ama certain amount of sense
For what it’s worth, she did appear raise here eyebrows and roll her eyes, but I won’t pretend to know what was going through her mind when she did so. I’ve known people to do exactly that when they connect unexpectedly with something. She could be thinking, “Well, there we go! We have something in common!”
LexiRedLion (72d218) — 8/10/2010 @ 1:12 pm“And the most telling thing is how she high-tailed it out of the governor’s office. If she can’t take that heat, you expect her to sit in the Oval Office and take the kind of heat every President gets?
Comment by JEA — 8/10/2010 @ 9:23 am ”
I would expect her to do what’s right. If resigning would be better for the country, Palin probably would do it, yeah.
Is this about ‘taking the heat’? Would Alaska be better off is she ‘took the heat’ and the democrats managed to completely shut down the government? Is this some kind of contest of who can stick around the longest, or a test for who makes the best decisions?
Palin made the right decision. That’s a lot more important than the democrat calculation that they could force her to stay in limbo under the guise of ‘taking the heat’.
no doubt, though, Palin can take as much heat as anyone. It’s not like she fled office and then hid from the heat. She gave up power so her state would function, and then took on the Obama administration’s policies and far more heat.
Not the actions of a coward.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 8/10/2010 @ 1:18 pmYet it spits out leftist pablum more consistently than Old Faithful erupts.
JD (abc2eb) — 8/10/2010 @ 1:23 pmNice to see some Oppressive Democrats that aren’t completely against free-speech – for now at least.
Stan (e2a6a2) — 8/10/2010 @ 2:42 pmCompare and contrast….
Joe the Plumber goaded Obama into showing his true
colors via the “Share the Wealth” comeback. And it
was Joe being ambushed.
Mrs. Palin chats up her ambusher, and apparently
finds some common ground. And smiles and waves.
Who’s the dummy, again?
furious (71af32) — 8/10/2010 @ 2:56 pmI’ve never understood the “quitter” accusation. Since when is being elected to a public office the same as an indenture? Obama and most of his cabinet resigned from offices they’d been elected to. Had McCain and Palin won, they would have resigned from the offices they then held. And nobody seems to have any problem with this. So why is it OK for a governor to resign to become vice president or a cabinet secretary, but not for her own reasons? Alaskans would have been deprived of her services either way, after all.
Note that in the UK members of parliament are officially not allowed to resign; they get around this by being appointed to a public service position (Warden of the Chiltern Hundreds) whose salary was fixed in about 1500, and whose duties have disappeared, but which makes its holder ineligible to sit in parliament. However when the US congress was established the founders decided to allow congressmen to resign at will. Evidently the idea of keeping someone chained to their office didn’t seem right to them.
The fact is that once Palin decided not to run for reelection this year, had she remained in office then Parnell would now be fighting a difficult primary, with no guarantee of success. By resigning she set him up as the incumbent, and with the job he’s been doing he looks set to win easily, thus continuing her legacy.
You’re welcome for the ignore-user script, by the way.
Milhouse (d84b40) — 8/10/2010 @ 3:45 pmDid you notice how JEA tried to pretend that he said something that he didn’t in the other thread about borrowing and war bonds?
Probably thinks he fooled anyone.
SPQR (26be8b) — 8/11/2010 @ 7:02 pm