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8/3/2010

Deport the Criminals First: ICE Failures Lead to Death of Nun

Filed under: Deport the Criminals First,General,Immigration,Obama — Patterico @ 7:30 am

The repeat drunk driver was out on bond pending a deportation hearing. Now a nun is dead:

The man charged in connection with the Sunday crash that took the life of a Bristow nun is an illegal alien who was out on bond awaiting a deportation hearing, police said Monday.

Prince William County police notified U.S. Immigration and Naturalization officials about the status of Carlos A. Martinelly Montano, 23, of Bristow after both his first and second drunken driving arrests, said county police spokesman Jonathan Perok.

. . . .

Police say Martinelly swerved off the right side of the road, hit a guardrail, careened across the incoming lanes, hit a jersey wall and then slammed head on into a Toyota carrying the three nuns.

Sister Denise Mosier was killed instantly, and two others were flown to the hospital, where they remained Monday in critical but stable condition, police said. . . . Sunday’s crash marked his third drunken driving arrest in five years.

. . . .

Corey Stewart, chairman of the Prince William Board of Supervisors, called the nun’s death “appalling.“

“The despicable thing is that this criminal was … handed over to ICE twice, and released by ICE twice. He’s gone out an killed a nun. That’s a perfect example of what’s wrong with immigration enforcement in this country,” said Stewart, who has drafted legislation for stricter illegal immigration laws statewide. “The blame is on representatives in Congress for being so flaccid on the issue, and they continue not to fund the deportation of illegal immigrants in this country.”

Good thing the Obama administration is fighting measures in Arizona that would direct local officials to identify and deport illegal alien criminals.

Thanks, Barry!


Another victim of our refusal to take illegal immigration seriously

Thanks to Steve Sturm and H(S)M.

37 Responses to “Deport the Criminals First: ICE Failures Lead to Death of Nun”

  1. This also proves to me there’s something wrong with drunk driving laws–people who have two glasses of wine are ruined by the penalties, and drunken killers like this guy are still driving.

    Why?

    Patricia (358f54)

  2. well, let’s also point out that she was even more directly a victim of our failure to take drunk driving seriously.

    normally i am a little leery of “this illegal immigrant did X bad thing” story, because the lawyer in me would see a classic proximate cause problem. but given the facts here, yeah, i can’t believe they let this idiot walk the steets.

    Btw, prince william is pretty much manassas, more or less. or perhaps better known by the battles of bull run (called the battles of manassas in the south). its just about as far as you could go from DC in Virginia and still be considered in the suburbs of DC.

    I have heard they have really stepped up immigration enforcement around there. but obviously you need federal cooperation for it all to happen.

    Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (e7d72e)

  3. Patricia: gmta.

    Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (e7d72e)

  4. In fact, the federal government under President Obama has steadily increased the deportation of illegal immigrants. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency says it’s on track to expel some 400,000 people this year, 8 percent more than 2008 — the last year of the Bush administration.

    [...]

    The agency says 50 percent of the immigrants deported this year had some kind of criminal record. That’s up from about 30 percent two years ago. But immigrant rights advocates complain the government doesn’t provide a breakdown of what those crimes are.*

    I have no idea.

    happyfeet (19c1da)

  5. Obviously, we’re deporting them to the wrong place: Mexico, where they get patted on the head and sent right back.

    Let’s deport them to Timbuktu instead, see how long it takes to get back from sub-Saharan Africa.

    Frank Drebbin (8096f2)

  6. Barry lied, and a nun died!

    Is this the Hope & Change we were waiting for?

    AD - RtR/OS! (37aceb)

  7. I found the difference in treatment by the two DC area papers to be instructive. The Washington Post leads with how the nuns “decry focus on immigration status” while the Examiner just tells the facts.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/03/AR2010080302519.html?hpid=topnews

    http://www.examiner.com/x-35821-Immigration-Reform-Examiner~y2010m8d3-Drunk-illegal-alien-awaiting-deportation-kills-nun-in-Va

    I wondered if even the Democratic organ that the Post has become could find a way to shift the coverage of this tragedy. Well, they did.

    jim2 (a9ab88)

  8. frank

    when i grew up and went to college, i was very surprised when i learned that timbuktu was a real place. i always assumed it was made up, like narnia.

    Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (e7d72e)

  9. Obama doesn’t care about the life of this nun. Haven’t you ever heard the phrase, “You can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.” I forget who said that but it was another of those guys who was going to “spread the wealth around.”

    Mike K (0ef8c3)

  10. Why wasn’t the illegal alien in a cell?

    bill-tb (541ea9)

  11. Being a nun in the Catholic Church, she has fallen victim to the Church’s own sanctuary policies for illegals. Their slavish devotion to “social justice” provides moral and clerical support to churches, organizations and cities to hide illegals and advocate their cause. Obviously the Church isn’t directly responsible for her death, but their decades long advocacy for illegals to operate freely in America has resulted in needless carnage on America’s streets.

    whocares (241f45)

  12. Chickens coming home to roost (unfortunately).

    AD - RtR/OS! (37aceb)

  13. So, this guy is awaiting a deportation hearing. Does this mean he is working (which is illegal)? If not, who’s paying for his booze? Certainly this upstanding rock of the community wouldn’t have stolen it. There are so many wrongs, it must be right. I look forward to the day when Patterico no longer has to write these “Deport the Criminals First” articles.

    PatAZ (b69b16)

  14. The local Catholic newspaper that the Archdiocese of Los Angeles puts out often runs tear-jerking stories about the illegal immigrant kid who is first in his class but went to Mexico for his grandmother’s funeral and now can’t get back in the country. They never, and I mean never, cover cases in which a rancher in Arizona is shot by drug runners or an illegal immigrant gangbanger assaults a cop or an illegal immigrant kills someone driving drunk. They do, however, always include a blurb when a priest or nun dies tragically and unexpectedly. My assumption is that they will mention Sr. Denise’s death, but will not mention the immigration status of the man who killed her.

    JVW (a52530)

  15. off topic, but interesting, in an f–ed up sort of way…

    http://www.theindychannel.com/news/24453132/detail.html

    black church fakes a fistfight to test the reaction of a white police officer. white police officer sent to hospital.

    Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (e7d72e)

  16. AW, that’s maddening.

    That’s also extremely racist. It’s like if I started testing only black employees to see if they meet my racist stereotypes. And when it sends one to the hospital, show such bitter racism that I lie that he wasn’t hurt and the whole attack wasn’t dangerous at all.

    Sherrod and Rangel would be proud. Fighting racism from people who don’t care what your skin color is, by IDing whites and treating them like garbage.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  17. This also proves to me there’s something wrong with drunk driving laws–people who have two glasses of wine are ruined by the penalties, and drunken killers like this guy are still driving.

    Why?

    Drunken killers should be put to death.

    Why has not anyone even suggested the death penalty for this sort of crime?

    Michael Ejercito (249c90)

  18. The local Catholic newspaper that the Archdiocese of Los Angeles puts out often runs tear-jerking stories about the illegal immigrant kid who is first in his class but went to Mexico for his grandmother’s funeral and now can’t get back in the country. They never, and I mean never, cover cases in which a rancher in Arizona is shot by drug runners or an illegal immigrant gangbanger assaults a cop or an illegal immigrant kills someone driving drunk. They do, however, always include a blurb when a priest or nun dies tragically and unexpectedly. My assumption is that they will mention Sr. Denise’s death, but will not mention the immigration status of the man who killed her.

    What happened to the Catholic Church’s balls anyway?

    There was a time when they called for heretics to be burned to death. Maybe they should start calling for illegal aliens to leave this country, whether it be by bus, plane, or even in a pine box.

    Michael Ejercito (249c90)

  19. What happened to the Catholic Church’s balls anyway?

    In the Western Hemisphere (mostly) they were taken over by Revolutionary Theology, and see everyone as the victim of the corrupt, capitalist system.

    AD - RtR/OS! (37aceb)

  20. Now that there is a bounty on the Sheriff’s head, will Bam protect the US citizen?

    ng4779 (d4ecb4)

  21. Joe’s the wrong color!

    AD - RtR/OS! (37aceb)

  22. Obama should be held criminally responsible in the death of this woman, who undoubtedly did more good every five minutes she was alive than Barack Obama will do in all his born days.

    Kevin Stafford (ff3afb)

  23. i don’t get how this story is related to this at all:

    Good thing the Obama administration is fighting measures in Arizona that would direct local officials to identify and deport illegal alien criminals.

    I mean, I get that Mexican criminals are bad, but seriously, you gloss over his due process rights, his right to a hearing, his release on bond, the fact that Virginia was not prevented from a) determining his immigration status (since they knew it and had reported him to ICE twice before) or locking him for being a serial drunk driver.

    Arizona’s law has as much to do with this Virginia case as George Lopez’s sitcom does, i.e. they’re all obliquely about Mexicans in America.

    Just a demagogic connection of a tragedy/crime to the hot spot of the readers…..

    timb (449046)

  24. Tim, you have confirmed my impression that you do not have the ability to process information beyond a 5 year old’s.

    The drunk driver had been repeatedly released and was not deported, leaving him the opportunity to drive drunk and kill the nun.

    The federal government says it will not detain illegals apprehended by Arizona authorities in the commission of some sort of crime.

    The conclusion: ICE will not detain or deport illegals even if they have committed crimes.

    I think the rest of us got it. Maybe there is a child psychologist who could get through to you with this simple correlation but maybe not.

    Mike K (0ef8c3)

  25. Mike, please, no child psychologist should be condemned to such a burden as trying to straighten out timb, even if it were possible.

    AD - RtR/OS! (37aceb)

  26. What due process right was timb worried that the Arizona law skips over?

    Oh, why do I bother. Never mind.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  27. Dustin

    agreed. it is also racist. i think if i was the guy’s lawyer i would look very closely at the civil rights laws.

    Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (e7d72e)

  28. timb, are you retarded?

    The point is that our immigration system is like a wildfire, and obama keeps flying over it with tanker planes, but instead of dumping water, he dumps gallons of gasoline on it.

    Aaron Worthing (A.W.) (e7d72e)

  29. in the ’07 report it says that 277K were deported *total* but that 164K criminal aliens were contacted in prisons and jails and begun to be processed for removal (I assume this is once their sentences are served)

    In ’08 the report says 357K were deported *total*, (over 100K voluntary… probably border catch and release) and 221K charging docs issued to illegals contacted in prisons and jails

    From the trajectory ICE is getting from about 2006 until now, it is clear to me that Obama via NPR is getting credit for the charges filed on about 385K incarcerated illegals… sorta like how he won the Iraq war

    SteveG (f6fb69)

  30. I know it’s propaganda cause it’s NPR but it’s not really a topic I pay much attention to so I don’t it at all

    they’re not going to convince people that bumblef is some kind of immigration hardliner

    what’s interesting though is that NPR knows they’re talking to white people – hardly any hispanics or blacks listen to their crap

    happyfeet (19c1da)

  31. oh. that was supposed to be I don’t *get* it at all

    happyfeet (19c1da)

  32. Some people just get off on calling other people racists.

    JD (636015)

  33. What due process? These people are not here LEGALLY and therefore do not qualify nor do they deserve due process. They get it because this country refuses to be like China, N. Korea, or Mexico where you don’t have ANY rights as an illegal alien and chances are you will never be seen again.

    PatriotRider (17f47b)

  34. The leading news story on my local (Arizona) Fox new station last night? The border is more secure than ever and this assertion is backed up with facts.
    Fact, more criminal illegal aliens were deported last year than ever before.
    Huge gap in logic? The fact that ICE is now deporting these criminals has nothing to do with the fact that they didn’t catch them until they were over the border and apparently are going to do nothing to prevent them from crossing again. FAIL.

    PRM (310ebf)

  35. Catholics luv all these folk don’t they?

    Almost go out of their way to protect and harbor them.

    You know the Forest Service, BLM and many other federal agencies get lawsuits filed against them on an almost daily basis!

    Why don’t some you smart lawyers get together and file one against ICE, homeland Security and any other agency NOT doing their JOB?

    RTF (8fcb72)

  36. well i agree that the bads ones should go but how about the ones who are here to have a better life we all just have one god and he says do not hate others but seems like some in this world do

    loriandcarlos (d0835a)


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