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7/21/2010

New JournoList Leak: NPR Producer Wishes Death for Limbaugh

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 6:40 am



Your media betters at work:

If you were in the presence of a man having a heart attack, how would you respond? As he clutched his chest in desperation and pain, would you call 911? Would you try to save him from dying? Of course you would.

But if that man was Rush Limbaugh, and you were Sarah Spitz, a producer for National Public Radio, that isn’t what you’d do at all.

In a post to the list-serv Journolist, an online meeting place for liberal journalists, Spitz wrote that she would “Laugh loudly like a maniac and watch his eyes bug out” as Limbaugh writhed in torment.

In boasting that she would gleefully watch a man die in front of her eyes Spitz seemed to shock even herself. “I never knew I had this much hate in me,” she wrote. “But he deserves it.”

To be fair to Spitz, Limbaugh does articulate conservative positions. That’s enough to justify wishing for his death … isn’t it?

It’s all at the Daily Caller.

58 Responses to “New JournoList Leak: NPR Producer Wishes Death for Limbaugh”

  1. To be fair to Spitz, Limbaugh does articulate conservative positions. That’s enough to justify wishing for his death … isn’t it?

    Certainly it is. She is so much better than Limbaugh. Her politics are pure, holy, true, and progressive. Anything she feels is right.

    quasimodo (4af144)

  2. It took 9/11 to start my turn to conservatism after a lifetime of hard core leftism and only at that point of change did I realize how hateful people on the Left generally are due to ideology alone. Me too at the time. Name calling, bullying, slander are all okay because the Left believes they are absolutely correct in their thinking just as conservatives are the opposite and filled with evil intent. For the Left, Conservatives are the Other, the Scapegoat for all their demons real or imagined. And yet the Left holds itself as the compassionate, enlightened ones. Until you cross them. That’s when turning the other cheek does not apply (if they claim to be in the Judeo-Christian tradition). It was a humbling experience.

    mbabbitt (d2d105)

  3. What’s measurably worse is the exchange where one of the esteemed members of the media asked whether the FCC could shut Fox News down, and revoke their broadcasting license. The old adage of scratch a hardcore lefty and discover a hidden Stalinist has never been proven more succinctly. I want every one of these people isolated, ostracized and put into locks in front of the town square to be jeered at and ridiculed. Barring that, a hundred or so libel suits is also acceptable.

    Dmac (d61c0d)

  4. Not to worry, Patterico. Soon, a few voices we have heard before on this blog will insist (i) this is very rare, (ii) it’s a whiny thing to complain about, and (iii) the Right is so much worse and does this more.

    Eric Blair (9bc648)

  5. Another argument for eliminating NPR’s taxpayer subsidies. But I’m even more concerned about another JournoLister at Bloomberg, which is reputed to be more traditionally “objective” than the semi-overtly left-wing NPR. From the same Daily Caller article:

    “You know, at the risk of violating Godwin’s law, is anyone starting to see parallels here between the teabaggers and their tactics and the rise of the Brownshirts?” asked Bloomberg’s Ryan Donmoyer. “Esp. Now that it’s getting violent? Reminds me of the Beer Hall fracases of the 1920s.”

    Bloomberg is reputed to have stricter standards for its journalists than NPR. What will it do about Ryan Donmoyer?

    Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (fb9e90)

  6. We think they are wrong;
    They HATE us!

    So go the words of Dennis Prager, and he’s correct. We think that they are misguided, misled, deluded idiots — not a prticularly nice thing to say, but accurate. They, as evidenced by the above (among many other documented statements) belive us to be the personification of biblical EVIL.

    Icy Texan (fdba61)

  7. Charles Krauthammer said it in 2002:

    To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil.

    Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (fb9e90)

  8. They hate Limbaugh because of his political opinions. I hate the people at NPR because they’ve been stealing my money since the day they opened up shop.

    I wouldn’t listen to NPR if you paid me…but I still have to pay their salaries at the point of a gun.

    They’re the scum of the earth. Worthless liberal parasites and thieves, so who cares what they think.

    Dave Surls (17ae44)

  9. “To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil.” Charles Krauthammer is brilliantly on target with this quote. Thanks for sharing.

    Beth in Texas (92159d)

  10. I think that NPR should be de-funded by the government. Let their supporters pay for them.

    As for Limbaugh, not a fan of the man myself, however to wish death like that should be reserved for individuals who do things like take plane full of people and force them to fly into large buildings full of people. (Like one of the other posters mentioned, I found myself taking a good look at politics after 9/11, a subject which I had ignored and found the results of understanding and defining what I believe to be fair and right, was not what I expected.)

    Not that I would see the folks on the JournoList even willing to give a listen to an option that doesn’t match theirs. This is what I always ask people who rant against them… Check out the ratings for yourself, they are by far the top. Explain to me why they are so high compared to the others. To me, it says a lot about what people want to see and hear.

    chiianna (44cff2)

  11. NPR is evil.

    happyfeet (19c1da)

  12. “I never knew I had this much hate in me,” she wrote. “But he deserves it.”

    Feel the love.

    navyvet (206534)

  13. This bitch is payed with our tax dollars.

    mr pink (ccc050)

  14. Spitz admits she would be orgasmic watching Limbaugh die, but I’ll bet she’d be incensed hearing about a terrorist being waterboarded.

    LukeHandCool (fa3b23)

  15. Spitz?

    nee Swallows?

    Frank Drebbin (8096f2)

  16. It seems theold saying is true, you become what you hate.

    mr pink (ccc050)

  17. No doubt she’d burn his books, too. Journolist is a fascist hate-site, and not in the least little bit “liberal.”

    Kevin Murphy (5ae73e)

  18. During my liberal days- I was a college teacher, my liberal colleagues and I were nearly unanimous in our distaste for the few faculty members who were Republicans. We considered them akin to nazis- I am ashamed to admit that now- but it is the truth. We “tolerant and compassionate” liberals did our utmost to ostracize those Republicans. On those rare occasions when we discussed ideological differences with them most of us -I know I did- simply reacted with rage. Rage that anyone had the effrontery to challenge us. The truth is that we were unable to defend our beliefs in a rational manner. On the rare occasions when I tuned in a “right wing” talk show, I came near to having attacks of apoplexy. After much soul-searching and reading I have come to realize how stupid and reactionary that kind of a liberal is. Today as a conservative I am well armed with facts and welcome discussions with my old colleagues. Except that it difficult to discuss politics seriously when your opponent is choking and red in the face.

    mhr (251a8f)

  19. If Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow were having a heart attack in front of me, I would do everything I could, even risk my own life, to save them.

    Just saying.

    Nathan (136b95)

  20. people bring up 9/11 as changing the way they think. Based on the pics I’ve seen, were some of these punks even in high school when 9/11 happened?

    Bradnsa (980254)

  21. Well. At least the gloves are off and the opponent is clearly defined. No more being surprised, no more being caught off guard, no more shock at the ruthlessness of those whose goal is to destroy. If there were any lack of clarity about the goal of the left, there no longer is.

    mhr @ 18, that’s a great comment and sums up the switch over journey from irrationality and emotionalism to rational thought and fact. It also makes one hopeful that not all will be sucked up in the vacuum.

    Dana (a99c9f)

  22. Move over, JournoList. Make way for Cabalist!

    But the idea behind Journolist — a forum in which like-minded opinion-makers could share information and ideas (much of the content of Journolist that I have seen consisted of eye-glazing wonkery) but also, on occasion, plot campaigns against Journolist’s ideological foes — would not die. Hence, the birth of the heretofore secret Cabalist, which unlike Journolist, has only 173 members, rather than 400, but which in other ways resembles Journolist (such as in the propensity of Cabalist members to leak ostensibly private information to non-Cabalist members, including to yours truly).

    Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (fb9e90)

  23. Isn’t Sara Spitz from KCRW? Producer of “Far Left, Left, and Incoherent” (my take on their “Left, Right and Center”). If you consider Robert Scheer simply as “Left” you know you’re a wacko.

    MikeHu (6451eb)

  24. They hate Limbaugh because of his political opinions.

    No, they hate him because 25 million people listen to his show every day. How many listen to NPR ?

    Mike K (0ef8c3)

  25. I often wonder if the lefty types actually wish we were all Nazis? Perhaps they have a deep need to justify their hatred of conservatives. The reality is that the Red Guards and the Brown Shirts are distinguished only by the color of their shirts.The belief systems are nearly identical. What part of National Socialist German Workers’Party do they not understand?

    BarSinister (5dea99)

  26. Daily Caller has more… now on Obamadulation:

    SPENCER ACKERMAN: Let’s just throw Ledeen against a wall. Or, pace Dr. Alterman, throw him through a plate glass window. I’ll bet a little spot of violence would shut him right the fuck up, as with most bullies.

    JOE KLEIN, TIME: Pete Wehner…these sort of things always end badly.

    ERIC ALTERMAN, AUTHOR, WHAT LIBERAL MEDIA: Fucking Nascar retards…

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/21/obama-wins-and-journolisters-rejoice/2/#ixzz0uL1DbZXZ

    MikeHu (255b30)

  27. Sarah Spitz is she a journalist or a radio producer? I thought the listserv was for journalists. I wonder how many broadcast producers are in that listserv? It would help to determine if the listserv was just people popping off or if it was where those that produced the stories for publication and broadcast also shaped the news, the Journolist way.

    whocares (6acbdc)

  28. Mike K – it’s hard to tell how many people listen to NPR without doing a great deal of tedious work, in part because Arbitron doesn’t generally provide ratings for them.

    But:

    KQED (SF public radio station, one of the few for which arbitron has ratings) has about 825,000, or 5.6% of the market.

    If you assume that public radio has twice as many listeners (percentage wise) in the bay area as it does anywhere else, than 2.8% in each of the top markets doesn’t seem unreasonable.

    The total number of listeners in the top 25 markets is 104,949,300 (derived from this website); that would give 2,938,580 in the top 25 markets. My guess is that would extrapolate out to about 6 million total nationwide.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  29. Please start a separate thread asking for comments on what one should do if Sarah Spitz has a heart attack. I for one would rush to save her, if only to preserve for further study a fine specimen of dolt.

    Kevin Stafford (ff3afb)

  30. “How many listen to NPR ?”

    About the same number as listen to Limbaugh.

    IOW, one guy equals their WHOLE network.

    Of course, there is a difference, Limbaugh doesn’t force people to pay for his program, unlike the trash at NPR, which after 40 years is STILL subsidized by government.

    What’s especially galling is that NPR’s stuff is aimed at upscale liberals, who could well afford the cost.

    Nobody subsidizes the music that poor people listen to, only the boring crap liberals love (like opera…yuck). Country music stations got to pay their own way…NPR gets government handouts.

    So, as is usually the case with welfare states (always the case, actually)…the poor pay, and the rich benefit. Welfare states might now start out that way…but, they always end up that way.

    And, if I saw Ms. Spitz having a heart attack…I wouldn’t lift a finger to help her.

    I don’t help thieves.

    Dave Surls (17ae44)

  31. What’s measurably worse is the exchange where one of the esteemed members of the media asked whether the FCC could shut Fox News down, and revoke their broadcasting license. The old adage of scratch a hardcore lefty and discover a hidden Stalinist has never been proven more succinctly. I want every one of these people isolated, ostracized and put into locks in front of the town square to be jeered at and ridiculed. Barring that, a hundred or so libel suits is also acceptable.

    Of course, they never figure out what they would do if, say the economy turns and someone who makes Pat Buchanan look like Jimmy Carter suddenly has the power to revoke stations’ licenses on the basis of their content.

    Michael Ejercito (249c90)

  32. I don’t know how to Twitter, but it looks like Sarah Spitz (producer at KCRW/Santa Monica college) has a twitter thing that people can follow- sspitz@kcrw.

    LASue (ed9852)

  33. The new Portable People Meters enabled Arbitron to add NPR to its list of covered radio stations. The good news is NPR’s music programs are doing better than expected. I don’t have access to NPR’s current ranking for news programs, and NPR hasn’t posted that on its website.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  34. DRJ, thanks for the added information.

    Since we know KQED’s figures, we also know WAMU and WNYC have to exceed them … meaning that the top three npr news stations hit a minimum of 2.5 million. KUOW seems to be 385,000, and we know that the 10 stations on DRJ’s list between KUOW and KQED must be at least that … adding another 4.2 (380000*11) million to the 2.5 million from above.

    So that’s 6.7 million just from the news stations in the top 20 npr stations.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  35. The hatred of the liberals by the right-wing is revealed, at long last, to be psychological projection by some of them. Name them and shame them … oh, am I quoting someone? Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.

    htom (412a17)

  36. We are witnessing the death throes of main stream media. Rush, with 22 million listeners, is doing fine.

    With the exception of the Wall Street Journal, every major newspaper is losing subscribers and ad revenue. ABC, NBC, CBS, MSMBC and CNN are lagging Fox.

    While the MSM complain the the blogs and on line news services have an unfair advantage, the problem is more basic. We do not believe them.

    arch (24f4f2)

  37. I wonder how Spitz’s College President would react to being questioned in public, on camera about Spitz’s hate speech? Think Spitz would be fired?

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  38. PCD–Right on! That is truly hate speech if ever there was. I know university administrators loathe hate speech. Anybody got the phone number for the President of Santa Monica College? 😉

    LukeHandCool (fa3b23)

  39. aphrael,

    If you search Arbitron at the NPR website, it appears the Arbitron rankings for NPR’s music programs was much larger than expected. However, since NPR didn’t announce anything about its news program rankings, I wonder if the opposite is true there.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  40. Dmac–I think what is even worse is that one of the guys discussing a takeover or shutdown of Fox by the government is a law professor, albeit, a law professor at UCLA–I guess the First Amendment has’t made it out to California yet.

    rochf (ae9c58)

  41. DRJ – I really can’t get interested in the question of whether the actual numbers are larger than expected, as I don’t really care what NPR’s expecations are. :)

    Your search link brought me to this, which says ‘Morning Edition’ has a listenership of 13.3 million.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  42. From: NPR Blog

    At 2:10 p.m. ET, Spitz issued this statement:

    I made poorly considered remarks about Rush Limbaugh to what I believed was a private email discussion group from my personal email account. As a publicist, I realize more than anyone that is no excuse for irresponsible behavior. I apologize to anyone I may have offended and I regret these comments greatly; they do not reflect the values by which I conduct my life.

    And in an email to NPR, Jennifer Ferro, KCRW’s general manager, said “the private comments made by one of our employees, Sarah Spitz, are regrettable for all of us at KCRW.”

    Sarah is a longtime employee of KCRW. Please note that she is not affiliated or employed by NPR, nor does she work as a journalist, as has been incorrectly reported in the media.

    Sarah was not acting in her position as KCRW Publicity Director when she wrote these comments. She spoke in the heat of the moment without consideration to the impact her words would have. We’ve all said things we didn’t mean and don’t reflect our core values. We believe that was the situation in this case. KCRW has, and always will be, dedicated to civil discourse and the free exchange of ideas.

    Since 1991, Spitz has contributed six pieces to NPR’s flagship magazine programs, Morning Edition and All Things Considered, about arts and culture in the greater Los Angeles area, on a freelance basis.

    Only “teh left” could imagine sending an email to 400+ “journalists” is a “private email discussion” rather than a press release.

    BfC (5209ec)

  43. I saw that, aphrael, and it sounds right. As NPR mentioned, that would put its top-rated program at 3rd on this Talkers.com 2010 list (although note the Talkers’ rankings are based on more than number of listeners, so my link is only for the numbers of listeners and not for the actual ranking).

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  44. “I apologize to anyone I may have offended.” Typical liberal non-apology apology.

    Stu707 (4d1c35)

  45. I made poorly considered remarks about Rush Limbaugh to what I believed was a private email discussion group from my personal email account. As a publicist, I realize more than anyone that is no excuse for irresponsible behavior. I apologize to anyone I may have offended and I regret these comments greatly; they do not reflect the values by which I conduct my life.

    [snort] Why not apologize to everyone you did offend, and wonder why others were not offended when they should have been? You may wish that your remarks not reflect the values that you live your life by, but it seems to me that they did — and may well do so now.

    Reputation is what men say about you on your tombstone;
    Character is what angels say about you before the throne of God.

    You didn’t think He was watching and reading, I suppose.

    htom (412a17)

  46. htom, you’re right. It’s strange to insist your ‘actual’ values are the ones you show when you know people are watching, and not the ones you actually practice in your ‘personal’ sphere.

    These people struggle to show Rush is some kind of monster.

    “We’ve all said things we didn’t mean and don’t reflect our core values. We believe that was the situation in this case”

    You know, this was a group of liberal journalists. Why would someone feel a need to adjust their ‘core values’ like that, in that group? It’s a group devoted to spinning reality and apparently destroying conservatives, so this hatred seems to be the core value. Also, the attempt to claim it’s not an accurate reflection (don’t believe your lying eyes) seems to be another example of the left spinning the narrative.

    That they are caught as liars should give them the shame to stop trying to sculpt reality. But they aren’t sorry, which is why they are still doing it with these self praising apologies.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  47. You know, Spitz must not be entirely sure if Rush himself is one of the “anyones” she may have offended when discussing his death spasms. Has she apologized to Rush? Seems like at the very least with her sterling values she should have personally and specifically apologized to Mr. Limbaugh and his family.

    P.S. The Daily Caller has another post up in which more names are named and more quotes are quoted. In it the koolade muddled journolisters
    discuss their euphoria and attempt to articulate their deep emotions in those heady, still hopeful days around the November 2008 election.

    elissa (a8eab6)

  48. KCRW tries to minimize Spitz’s remarks by saying that she made them in the “heat of the moment”?!

    Exactly what “moment” are they referring to? From what I can tell, Spitz made her heinous comments as she was sitting back, relaxing and communicating online with others she felt comfortable enough with to reveal her true thoughts.

    LASue (ed9852)

  49. Exactly, LASue. The idea that there was heat or even a moment is laughable.

    Remember when the leftists were wailing and gnashing their teeth and rending their garments over the overheated rhetoric of the right that would inevitably lead to violence?

    JD (3399c0)

  50. I’m trying to imagine a producer for Fox News saying she would “Laugh loudly like a maniac and watch his eyes bug out” as Frank Rich writhed in torment. And not get fired for it.

    Looks like Jennifer Ferro is as big a moonbat as Spitz is.

    Subotai (0514c6)

  51. 1) I don’t have time tonight to track down the post (I think I found it through a link on Andrew Sullivan)–but last night I was reading a leftie being happy that Glenn Beck may be going blind.
    (Close paraphrase: “It would have been better if he was losing his voice, but this is a step in the right direction.”) Not even a hint of compassion or empathy.

    2)NPR is one of the few steady sources of classical music and jazz broadcasting in the US over regular airwaves (ie, not satellite or internet radio stations). It may well be that many more people listen to its music programming than its news broadcasts, and from what I’ve heard of it on the drive home, Marketplace, its business news program, is not particularly leftist. I may be slightly biased in favor of Marketplace’s host, because he graduated from the same college (Emory) as I did, although I’ve never met him that I can recall. Old school ties and all that.

    only the boring crap liberals love (like opera…yuck). Country music stations got to pay their own way

    Young man, you and I need to have a talk. Nothing boring about opera, especially when you compare it to a formulaic genre like country music. (Okay, it’s not as formulaic as pop or rap, but it’s still formulaic.)

    kishnevi (391c85)

  52. from what I’ve heard of it on the drive home, Marketplace, its business news program, is not particularly leftist.

    The same would apply, IMO, to morning edition and all things considered.

    fresh air is somewhat more leftist, and forum – the local call-in/talk show – is notably leftist, but what do you expect?

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  53. Ms.Spitz appears to be a very disturbed woman. She would have made a fine guard at Auchwitz.

    mhr (251a8f)

  54. I apologize to anyone I may have offended and I regret these comments greatly; they do not reflect the values by which I conduct my life.

    Oh hell, if these comments really didn’t reflect the values by which she conducts her life, the very person she would have made a direct apology to *after having been caught* would have been Limbaugh himself, and that would have included a big fat, humble-filled apology.

    Considering she hasn’t taken action to disprove this, I think it’s very reasonable to assume that these comments do indeed reflect the values she conducts her life by.

    Until she proves otherwise….

    Dana (a99c9f)

  55. She spoke in the heat of the moment without consideration to the impact her words would have.

    Calling BS here. Spitz did not speak, she typed those words, and had ample opportunity to edit or delete them before hitting the SEND button. She also could have added another post to the thread apologizing.

    No, these were not words uttered impetuously in the heat of spirited debate, these were calculated and premeditated.

    Some chump (e84e27)

  56. _____________________________________

    “I never knew I had this much hate in me,” she wrote. “But he deserves it.”

    Hey, if you didn’t fall for the BS that your liberalism somehow infuses in you a lot of compassion and decency, you wouldn’t be so foolish and naive about what makes you tick in the first place.

    As for your hate, I’m reminded that one of the biggest icons of liberal America (and the left-leaning world of the 1960s in general), that being John F. Kennedy, was murdered by a person of the left — the ultra-left, of course — referring to Lee Harvey Oswald.

    And then there was Kennedy’s brother, RFK, who was assassinated by a person closely aligned with leftism, that being Sirhan Sirhan and the “noble” cause of the sad, dejected, sorrowful Palestinians.

    Ironic in a way, but in light of how ass-backwards the left actually is, maybe not really.
    ______________________________________

    During my liberal days- I was a college teacher, my liberal colleagues and I were nearly unanimous in our distaste for the few faculty members who were Republicans…..We “tolerant and compassionate” liberals did our utmost to ostracize those Republicans. Comment by mhr — 7/21/2010 @ 8:53 am

    A good number of people start off life with liberal sentiments and biases. Based on the following, that leftism is born BAD. It’s a bad seed from Day One. It springs forth from just the opposite of what most of its adherents like to believe of themselves and what many other people associate with liberalism and liberals in general.

    Truly ironic.

    Reason.com, December 2006:

    The people who give the least are the young, especially young liberals. [Arthur C.] Brooks writes that “young liberals — perhaps the most vocally dissatisfied political constituency in America today — are one of the least generous demographic groups out there. In 2004, self-described liberals younger than thirty belonged to one-third fewer organizations in their communities than young conservatives. In 2002, they were 12 percent less likely to give money to charities, and one-third less likely to give blood.”

    Liberals, he says, give less than conservatives because of religion, attitudes about government, structure of families, and earned income.

    He writes that young liberals are less likely do nice things for their nearest and dearest, too. Compared with young conservatives, “a lower percentage said they would prefer to suffer than let a loved one suffer, that they are not happy unless the loved one is happy, or that they would sacrifice their own wishes for those they love.”

    Mark (411533)

  57. “Young man, you and I need to have a talk. Nothing boring about opera…”

    1.) I’m not young.

    2.) I loathe opera. Fine with me if you don’t…as long as I don’t have to pay for you to listen to it.

    I have eclectic tastes myself, but I don’t expect the general public to have to pay to support my Mozart (no operas though), Phish or Grateful Dead habits.

    This is not an appropriate use of taxpayer monies, especially, since the stuff that gets subsidized tends to be the sort of thing rich folks get off on…like opera, for instance.

    The people who hang out at the opera house can damn well pay to support their own habit.

    And, people like Sarah Spitz, funded in part from money extorted from me, by threat of force, are thieves, pure and simple…and so are the liberals who created NPR.

    What ought to happen to these guys is they should be forced to repay every dime of taxpayer money they’ve swiped over the last 40 years, and they ought to be cut off from slopping at the public trough.

    As for what these glorified welfare leeches think of Limbaugh or any other person who pays their own way through life…I really couldn’t care less what they think. They’re leeches and no one gives a damn what a leech thinks about anything.

    Dave Surls (16767b)

  58. “In boasting that she would gleefully watch a man die in front of her eyes Spitz seemed to shock even herself. “I never knew I had this much hate in me,”

    Those of us who have been bearing the brunt of liberal hatred for decades know well how much hate liberals have in them. That is why they always try to cast Republicans as “haters”. They project their emotions onto their imaginary right wing.

    tyree (63c76f)


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