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6/12/2010

A Health Care Defeat

Filed under: Health Care,Obama,Politics — DRJ @ 1:08 pm

[Guest post by DRJ]

As Steven Den Beste shows in his review of last year’s news, President Obama was revered a mere 365 days ago. Time and polls have changed that, even among his own Party:

“Not three months after lawmakers passed his $1 trillion insurance overhaul, Obama is facing a rare defeat on health care at the hands of his own divided Democrats. Moderates have rebelled against adding billions more to the deficit in a treacherous election year.”

It’s no wonder President Obama has returned to berating Republicans for opposing the most recent version of the Medicare Doc Fix. When times get tough, it always works to blame Republicans.

— DRJ

18 Responses to “A Health Care Defeat”

  1. And, of course, “blame Republicans” = campaigning, not governing. Campaigner-in-Chief, indeed.

    Or is that “Whiner-in-Cheese”?

    [I don’t want to say Chimpanzee-in-Feces again. Someone might get touchy.]

    Icy Texan (11677d)

  2. When times get tough, it always works to blame Republicans.

    Note to Democrats: Dipping into the Blame Republicans well one too many times may be hazardous to your political health.

    Blacque Jacques Shellacque (9fe4a5)

  3. There are also the government reports leaked that show 51% of corporate healthcare plans will not meet standards proposed under ObamaCare and thus will not be grandfathered. Obama’s promise that if you like your healthcare plan you will be able to keep your helathcare plan goes out the window with that news.

    daleyrocks (1d0d98)

  4. Sad, isn’t it? I think it also said 66% of small business plans would probably shut down, too.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  5. DRJ – But people will be required to buy more expensive comprehensive plans they didn’t want in the first place instead of having a choice of plans, so it’s all good! It’s bending the cost curve straight up for consumers and taking away choice, because the government knows what is best for us and is there to help us. I look at people like Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, and Harry Reid and have absolutely no problem believing that. None at all.

    daleyrocks (1d0d98)

  6. I’m just trying to imagine what America will be like if they get another 2-4 years. Or maybe I’m trying to forget.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  7. I think it’s very likely that they maintain their majorities and win the presidency again. Team R hasn’t kept their eye on the ball at all. They stopped focusing on the deficit for months cause they wanted to bonk the immigrant pinata and now they’ve been thrown off-message and confuzzled by the oil spill. (Witness the Alaskan dimbulb trying to blame it on…. campaign contributions… just like her mentor Meghan’s coward daddy would have done in his slightly less cowardly days when he didn’t fear losing his seat.) Mitch Daniels tried to shift the debate focus to the deficit but that’s contrary to what Jesus wrote in the Bible or something plus also fetuses.

    happyfeet (19c1da)

  8. But so what that the GOP is pretty ridiculous re: message? The democrats are in charge and just about everything is jacked the hell up.

    The 2012 race will be a referendum on Obama (who certainly will be nominated). He’s unpopular. Strong sentiment against him is tremendous and that ain’t gonna change whatsoever.

    Granted, I expect the November of this year to be a moderate disappointment. We simply are not playing to win or fighting hard (which is why you should be glad our lackluster wannabee nominees, Palin and especially Romney {whom I cain’t not stand) are putting in a ton of work to turnover officer and prove themselves kingmaker). Free market at work.

    We have a seemingly pathetic bench, I admit, for 2012, but while John Kerry had very little in the way to solutions for 2004 America, our energy, economic, and foreign policy concerns all have common sense solutions. And I think something fundamental is changing in our country that has few analogues in our history. Team R is fracturing. Sounds bad, but we’ve had it coming for ages.

    plus also fetuses

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  9. yes the turnover part especially is hopeful

    thank you Sarah and Mitt but yeesh make yourselves scarce come 2012 por favor

    But me too I am prepared for a moderate disappointment but in November but one with outsized consequences.

    happyfeet (19c1da)

  10. If you point out that the largest recipient of BP funds, in part because they were most heavily involved in the Climate change scam was Obama, that consequently they picked the most incompetent officials to administer said departments, that’s quite on point.

    ian cormac (ba1de9)

  11. see that makes no sense to me, that exercise in connect the dots… this accident wasn’t for lack of government oversight I don’t think it was just BP being stupid and sloppy

    happyfeet (19c1da)

  12. Actually the arguement can be made that regulation led directly to this problem. The story as I have heard it is that BP went directly to MMS (the federal bureauocracy in charge of drilling) and asked for permission to change the procedure for capping the well that led directly to the accident.

    There is an attiude that creeps into heavily regulated activities that the regulations regulate what works and not what is “legal”. This happens in all kinds of human activities, from the driver that goes forty mph down an icy road and then complains that, “Well the Speed Limit was fifty,” to the financial people who lend money to people who can’t pay it back and say, “Well the government said it was ok.”

    Personally I have seen this in action even in life safety situations. Sure the Fire Code says you can disconnect your sprinkler system for up to six weeks, but is that really a smart idea?

    In this case BP managers requested permission from MMS to remove the drilling mud from the well bore before placing a plug, which directly led to the blowout. I will bet that the drillers said that this was a terrible idea and would lead to disaster, and just as sure that some manager (from the financial side) said, “Don’t worry the government says it will be fine, and besides its going to save us ten million dollars.”

    Have Blue (854a6e)

  13. “Team R hasn’t kept their eye on the ball at all.”

    feets – Interesting perspective, but I disagree. The Wench from Wasilla is not running for anything in 2010 and just like Rush Limbaugh is major thorn in Team D’s side, especially the thin-skinned dirty-socialist empty-suit knob gobbler in chief. The only folks focused on the immigrant pinata are the people laughing at the administration’s ham handed response to the new Arizona law as well as the responses from various brain dead sanctuary cities around the country, oh and one of your favorite rinos, Lindsey Graham. The deficit, Israel, terrorism, healthcare deform, cap and tax continue to get pounded all over the place. Perhaps we read different sources of news.

    daleyrocks (1d0d98)

  14. Who but Republicans and Barbara Boxer want Obama to campaign for Democrat candidates this year? Show of hands.

    daleyrocks (1d0d98)

  15. “there are folks up there, who will not be named, who would have said this is classic, big-government overregulation and wasteful spending.” — Obama

    Well take a look Mr. President, your bigger government can’t seem to do “dick” .. would a smaller government do any worse ?

    Take a hint … the party is over.

    I suggest you get used to smaller government because the American taxpayer is tapped out … you’ve flipped to the wrong side of the “Laffer Curve”.

    Remember all those Americans who were worried that their children’s lives would be worst than their’s. Well it is the government’s turn to experience the same thing. Being a government worker is about to be rarer. Your legacy will include the downturn.

    Neo (7830e6)

  16. Water as the Best Natural Health Drink

    There are a lot of commercial health drinks out there in the market nowadays. They claim that they provide cure for illnesses, even citing studies of their drastic impact on cancer. But amidst these countless choices, we may e forgetting about nature’s most important “cocktail” – water.

    Some health professionals say that most of the people nowadays are dehydrated and they are not aware of it. People are more interested in drinking coffee, tea and sodas which also contains caffeine. About 83 percent of our blood is made of water. Muscles are made of 75 percent water, while bone is 22 percent composed of water. Actually, an average person who weighs around 150 lbs., contains 40 to 50 quarts of water. That makes 2/3 of our body weight are from water.

    Drinking water also retains the fluids necessary for the body to function. When the body gets less water, it begins to hold on to each drop of fluid and water it has. Water is stored outside the cells making feet, legs and hands to swell. To overcome this problem, the best thing to do is to drink plenty of water. The stored water outside the cells will be released.

    Aside from being completely necessary for biological processes, drinking the recommended 8 glasses of water a day will definitely give you significant health improvements. It would improve your energy, increase mental and physical performance, remove toxins and other waste products from the body.

    Water also helps you to get glowing and healthy-looking skin. Water acts as a natural body purifier, this disposes the toxins out of your body. There are even studies citing water intake as an important factor in weight loss. When a body does not have enough water, the fat cells cannot be easily metabolized. This “rubber-like” fat cell is harder to lose. Water can also suppress your hunger.

    Not drinking enough water is also the number one reason of fatigue. There are also studies that showed that drinking the recommended 8 glasses of water a day relieves most patients from back and joint pain. It even has effects on our memory and ability to concentrate. If you lack water intake, you can have short-term memory, trouble with your basic math and focusing on what you have in front of you, either a computer screen or a page you are handling.

    Aside from regular tap water, you can see a lot mineral water and even alkaline water in the stands. Compared to ordinary tap water, alkaline water has higher pH level. Alkaline water is said to have help in neutralizing acids and remove toxins from the body. Alkaline water drinkers and proponents believed that most of what we eat and drink produces acid waste. Aside from this, they also say that alkaline water gives electrochemical activity to the cell.

    To keep the body hydrated, you do not have to drink from your water bottle every time. Food is also source of your 20 percent total water intake. The remaining 80 percent comes from other beverages. Fruits and vegetables also contain a lot of water. Oranges would have 87 percent of composed of water.

    Even if there are people promoting alkaline water, there are still other health care professionals who thinks that we should just stick to regular, plain water. Whether it is alkaline water or normal water, we could not deny that it is one of the wonders of Mother Nature. Over centuries, water has been the natural health drink for us.

    Madcashcentral (ced361)

  17. –There are also the government reports leaked that show 51% of corporate healthcare plans will not meet standards proposed under ObamaCare and thus will not be grandfathered.–

    –But people will be required to buy more expensive comprehensive plans they didn’t want in the first place instead of having a choice of plans–
    comments by daleyrocks

    My own perfect-for me plan through my company includes a couple specific yearly exams but otherwise is a no frills, high deductible insurance plan in the true sense of what the word insurance is supposed to mean. There is no way this plan will survive the government’s regulation. So I expect a big shock when the sign-up information packet with new “acceptable” options and their costs arrives in early Oct. 2010 for 2011 coverage.

    But the date itself is very interesting. Because millions of people like me who currently have corporate or small business health care plans will also be receiving bad news in the October sign-ups. Just in time for them to see first hand that Obama lied. Just in time for the anger to be fresh in their minds, for them to be reminded anew about the shenanigans which surrounded the passage of the health care bill, and for them to express their displeasure with the Dems in the November elections. Those sign-up letters will, in effect, be nationwide anti- Democrat campaign ads that the Dems “paid” for themselves, and at no cost to the RNC or local politicians’ war chests.

    elissa (44b15b)

  18. Just wanted to say that I am eployed at a big biotherapeutic corporation in Clayton NC and I endroce Barack Obama with all my being. I would love for all my friends and colleagues to re-elect Obama in 2012!! I LOVE YOU OBAMA

    Diane Pearce Loves Barack Obama (399efa)


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