[Guest post by DRJ]
A Big 12 source says Nebraska may move to the Big 10 by week’s end:
“An executive at a Big 12 school relayed to The World-Herald on Tuesday that he expects Nebraska to become a member of the Big Ten as early as Friday.”
Bye-bye Huskers from the Big 12. Or Hello, if you’re a Big 10 fan.
— DRJ
UPDATE: It sounds to me like six Big 12 schools may be headed to the PAC-10.
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As a Nebraska native and die hard Husker fan this is great. Were sick of UT’s shit. Goodbye Texas League, hello Big 10!! wooooo!
Dopey (a812c5) — 6/9/2010 @ 3:13 pmI know how you feel, Dopey. Oklahoma often has UT’s number, and UT seems to have Nebraska’s. It’s funny how that happens.
DRJ (d43dcd) — 6/9/2010 @ 3:54 pmNebraska, Missouri fit the Big Ten in every category, kind of puts me to sleep thinking about it. But Texas in the B10 has the sizzle to instantly make me start thinking of college football well before August.
whocares (6acbdc) — 6/9/2010 @ 4:16 pmPenn State was a natural fit to the Big Ten, Notre Dame would be too if they wanted to (they all steal recruits from Ohio, anyway). Beyond that, maybe Iowa State has some geographic affinity, maybe Pitt.
Big Ten is Midwest/ Great Lakes states. There are no Great Lakes (any lakes?) near Nebraska.
That’s my opinion and I’m stickin’ with it.
MD in Philly (5a98ff) — 6/9/2010 @ 4:23 pmI updated the post with more from the Orangebloods reporter who has broken this story from Day 1. He must have a source, probably at UT.
DRJ (d43dcd) — 6/9/2010 @ 4:37 pmListen suckers, the Huskers are gonna roll in the Big 10/11/12? Yes, we have lakes in Nebraska although no great lakes unless you count the Ogallala Aquifer which has more water than all the great lakes. Iowa has no great lakes either, but Im not sure what being a near a large lake has anything to do with Football. Im fairly positive we are in the Midwest so I guess we have that going for us. Iowa State? Are you fucking serious? Are you even a college football fan?
Dopey (a812c5) — 6/9/2010 @ 4:39 pmOk, I lied about how much water the OA has….
GO BIG RED!
Dopey (a812c5) — 6/9/2010 @ 4:43 pmIt seems other sources are agreeing on the Nebraska move, but be careful placing too much emphasis on the Orangeblood comments. That site had ND AD Swarbrick in Chicago with Big Ten commissioner Delany. Turns out he was in Indianapolis with his family the entire day.
The shock to me is that UCB actually got one right. A private, let alone religious, school is not a good fit in the Pac 10. USC acts like an SEC school when it comes to athletics, so they don’t count. Stanford will never be a power in football. Anyway, this is why ND would be a horrible fit for the Big Ten. ND still stands for a little more than any state school. It would be foolish for them to align with such a power mad group of empty suits.
Ed from SFV (f0e1cb) — 6/9/2010 @ 4:54 pmThere are no Great Lakes (any lakes?) near Nebraska.
Lewis and Clark Lake on the SD border. Not a Great, but beautiful. Turned down a job in Yankton SD once. That lake was the only thing made me think twice.
Matador (ac73ca) — 6/9/2010 @ 5:05 pmNotre Dame doesnt stand for anything other than money. The reason they wont join the Big10 is money. They can keep all thwir bowl winnings (when they actually make one) and dont have to share revenue from their TV deal with anyone else. That and they think they’re better than everyone else.
Dopey (a812c5) — 6/9/2010 @ 5:19 pmRumors abound. Everything I have heard here in Indy has Nebraska, Mizzoops, and Rutgers to the Big 10, and my media friends here in town and Chicago have heard the same things. So far, I have heard speculation only about Notre Dame, but it is no secret that the Big 10 has always wanted them. I have not heard that they are considering moving to the Big 10, and in general, hear quite the opposite. I am going to wait until Friday to find out if it is still the Big 11, 12, 13, or 14.
JD (de02cc) — 6/9/2010 @ 5:20 pmI agree with Dopey. Notre Dame won’t go to the Big 10 until their TV contract runs out or until they’re sure they can’t earn more than their Big 10 share would be.
DRJ (d43dcd) — 6/9/2010 @ 5:28 pmIf Nebraska and Mizzou go to the Big 10, and the other 6 go to the Pac 10, Kansas basketball could be a program without a conference.
JD (de02cc) — 6/9/2010 @ 6:19 pmDamn. I had been hoping for two “Big 11” conferences fighting it out in the courts for the name.
Kevin Murphy (5ae73e) — 6/9/2010 @ 7:08 pmAs I understand it, the Big 12 doesn’t share television rights for games that are not nationally broadcast (ABC, ESPN, etc.) and that was one of the hang-ups with the Big 12 — the mid-level teams in terms of population, like Nebraska and Missouri, were irked that Texas and Oklahoma were scoring the lions’ share of the TV dollars. Moving into the Big 10 would get Nebraska a share of their conference network’s $$$.
If Texas moves to the Pac 10, how’s that going to work? Does the Pac 10 not share TV rights as of now, in which case, nothing will change? Would Texas have to agree to now share their broadcast revenues? Or will the Pac 10 grant a Texas (and possibly OU) exemption on the shared rights and allow them to have more TV money for their athletic programs than any other Pac 10 school except possibly USC? I think all this still has a lot of financial battles to play out.
John (d4490d) — 6/9/2010 @ 7:13 pmMy guess is the Pac-10 would share equally but the TV rights would be so much bigger that schools like Texas would end up with more than before.
Also, from what I’ve read, it doesn’t look like Missouri is going to get a Big 10 invitation.
DRJ (d43dcd) — 6/9/2010 @ 7:16 pmWhat are all these “Big’s” ?
SPQR (26be8b) — 6/9/2010 @ 7:18 pmThere are a lot of reasons Nebraska is not happy in the Big 12. The TV deal is one of them but not for that reason. Nebraska is on TV every week if not on FSN or ABC and a once a year ESPN Thursday game they are on PPV both nationally and in the state of Nebraska. Yes, Nebraska does very well with those PPV’s at $30 bucks a pop.
Texas thinks their shit don’t stink and have tried to run the conference since they were invited into the Big 8. We even took some of their lame friends, Baylor, A&M, and TT. We saved there asses and they screwed us. Nebraska was tired of getting the shaft on conference business ( Prop 48 partial qualifiers, Conference Championship site etc) and got sick of it. Texas can suck it.
Dopey (a812c5) — 6/9/2010 @ 7:24 pmThe name of the athletic program is California — not California-Berkeley. You wouldn’t refer to the Hoosiers as Indiana-Bloomington … or the Longhorns as Texas-Austin.
aunursa (484069) — 6/9/2010 @ 7:30 pmOne top source close to the possible merger between the Pac-10 and six Big 12 schools said some schools in the Pac-10, including California-Berkeley, have a real issue with adding an institution with religious ties like Baylor to the conference.”
It’s the same reason why both the Pac 10 and the Big 12 have in the past passed over BYU. Because of the Mormon influence in the state and especially at this private LDS school, BYU will not contest athletic events on Sundays. This was a killer for the Pac 10’s basketball contract.
As to what happens to the TV rights, I believe that a Pac 10 (or whatever the new conference is to be called) television network, similar to the Big 10 TV network, is in the works.
JVW (3d0547) — 6/9/2010 @ 7:31 pm… some schools in the Pac-10, including California-Berkeley, have a real issue with adding an institution with religious ties like Baylor to the conference.”
That certainly makes sense because you wouldn’t want any of that Baptist stuff rubbing off on the Berkeley kids. It might contaminate the multi-culturism and all, which is great, unless it involves Christians <>.
For free-thinkers, they certainly do get the vapors over the oddest things.
Ag80 (1b8eea) — 6/9/2010 @ 7:54 pmI hope Baylor does get in because right now they kick Cals ass in every sport that matters, including Football.
BradnSA (5666d1) — 6/9/2010 @ 8:15 pm“One top source close to the possible merger between the Pac-10 and six Big 12 schools said some schools in the Pac-10, including California-Berkeley, have a real issue with adding an institution with religious ties like Baylor to the conference.”
Apparently, even “diversity” has its limits.
If the Pac-10 were a private club on Madison and 38th with the membership rule “no Jews allowed,” we would need no tutoring to see the bigotry and condemn it swiftly.
Excluding Baylor or BYU from the Pac-10 because of its “religious ties” is morally indistinguishable from excluding Jews from the private club, or, for that matter, excluding Baptists and Mormons from attending Cal sporting events. The fact that some Berkeley official can say this with no pause or nuance reveals how deeply entrenched, accepted, and celebrated this irrational bigotry is in the academic enclaves in which this cast of mind is formed.
Francis Beckwith (41b7bb) — 6/9/2010 @ 8:15 pmAs a brief aside, I don’t think Berkeley really has much concern in regards to Baylor athletes proselytizing the Baptist Doctrine. Trust me on this.
Ag80 (1b8eea) — 6/9/2010 @ 8:20 pmI hope this comment takes this time.
Cal doesn’t want Baylor in because right now they kick Cal’s ass in every sport that matters, including football.
BradnSA (5666d1) — 6/9/2010 @ 8:20 pmI think the Baylor/Berkeley quote was from a reporter at Orangebloods, not an official school quote. There’s been a lot of talk and not much hat on this story, so let’s don’t beat Berkeley up over a rumor.
DRJ (d43dcd) — 6/9/2010 @ 8:24 pmIf no one wants the Jews or the Baptists or the Mormons they can go start their own conference.
Dopey (a812c5) — 6/9/2010 @ 8:32 pmFrancis Beckwith: Excluding Baylor or BYU from the Pac-10 because of its “religious ties” is morally indistinguishable from excluding Jews from the private club, or, for that matter, excluding Baptists and Mormons from attending Cal sporting events.
BYU may be excluded — not specifically for its religious ties — but because the Cougars refuse to play on Sunday.
aunursa (484069) — 6/9/2010 @ 9:35 pmBradnSA: I hope Baylor does get in because right now they kick Cals ass in every sport that matters, including Football.
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you had been drinking heavily when you wrote that.
aunursa (484069) — 6/9/2010 @ 9:40 pmWhat if the Berkeley rumor was thrown in by a very clever Baylor lobbyist?
I mean, it’s not like Baylor has the greatest program in the world. If this conference mash up doesn’t snag TCU a nice conference, hopefully big 12, then I’ll be disappointed.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 6/9/2010 @ 9:41 pmaunursa,
the only sport that would be close would be football. Baylor wins mens and womens basketball and mens and womens track.
Which do you see Cal winning?
BradnSA (83fbfe) — 6/9/2010 @ 9:58 pmNo matter how things end up, the one thing you can count on is that TCU will get the short end of the stick.
DRJ (d43dcd) — 6/9/2010 @ 9:59 pmAlso, from what I’ve read, it doesn’t look like Missouri is going to get a Big 10 invitation.
Up until today, I’d been thinking that an expanded, 16-member Big 10 would add schools like Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State. But evidently, with the exception of Nebraska, they’re more intent on expanding eastward.
some schools in the Pac-10, including California-Berkeley, have a real issue with adding an institution with religious ties like Baylor to the conference.
Leftist bigotry at its finest.
Mike LaRoche (d4323e) — 6/9/2010 @ 10:16 pmSo much to put in it’s proper place (sigh). [Note, whether you are an “intentionalist” or not when it comes to legal interpretation, you should understand my intention is not to be completely serious.]
Comment by Matador- Your comment is not lost on me. Many of the top faculty at the Univ. of Wisconsin stay there not because of pay or prestige, but because of the beautiful campus on the south shore of Lake Mendota. In fact, what was once known as “lakeshore path” (no awards for creativity there) is now known by reference to Howard Temin, a Nobel Prize winner who walked it every day.
Iowa has no great lakes either, But it borders MN, Ill., and WI. but Im not sure what being a near a large lake has anything to do with Football. Surely you jest!! If you don’t know why this is so, I’m not about to explain it to you. Im fairly positive we are in the Midwest so I guess we have that going for us. I’m afraid my American History book puts you in the “Great Plains States”. Lakes and Plains are very different. First of all, lakes has 5 letters and plains 6; lakes has a “k” and an “e”, and plains has a “p”, “i”, and “n”. Iowa State? Are you … serious? Are you even a college football fan? Iowa State is likely to be found in Iowa with a name like that. Nothing else suggested by it. And that sound you hear is a duet of growls from Bucky Badger and the Nittany Lion.
Comment by Dopey
Oh, one other thing, in the Big Ten, “GO BIG RED” is what they say when cheering for WISCONSIN. Seniority rules, you’ll have to get a different color and different cheer.
Why Cal-Berkley and not Indiana-Bloomington? Because you also have a huge school named UCLA. In athletics maybe simplying saying “Cal” communicates what you mean, but I’ve never heard Cal-Berkley referred to as just Cal in a discussion about academics, just Berkley, yes, “Cal”, no. When you do a Google of University of Califronia you get this: The 10 campuses of the University of California
Rutgers, being in New Jersey, and Maryland, being in Maryland, are on the East Coast for crying out loud!! Can you imagine them having to play in Wisconsin and Minnesota in November and December?? Inhumane, I say. West Virginia I could see, Missouri I could see (sort of).
But the biggest thing of all, Cal-Berkley is afraid of catching religious cooties from Baylor. My goodness, they really do want to secede from the rest of the country. Are they really that full of themselves?
MD in Philly (5a98ff) — 6/9/2010 @ 10:40 pmThe Chicago Tribune says the Nebraska-Big 10 marriage is a done deal. It also reports a possibility that TCU would replace Nebraska in the Big 12. My TCU family fans would love that.
DRJ (d43dcd) — 6/9/2010 @ 10:48 pmWell, Nebraska and Penn State are now unlikely to ever again both be undefeated as they were back in ’97 or so. What is the world coming to?
MD in Philly (5a98ff) — 6/9/2010 @ 10:57 pmThey all skeert of them Tigers.
spongeworthy (c2e8fe) — 6/10/2010 @ 9:36 amBring back the SW conference.
tehag (95d14e) — 6/10/2010 @ 10:07 amAnd maybe USC can trump them all and start the PCAA (Professional Collegiate Athletic Assn).
Kevin Murphy (805c5b) — 6/10/2010 @ 3:37 pm“BYU may be excluded — not specifically for its religious ties — but because the Cougars refuse to play on Sunday.”
I thought tolerance meant that one should appreciate and accommodate the beliefs and practices of the other?
BTW, the reason why they don’t play on Sunday is because of their religious beliefs. Apparently, then, the Pac 10 is fine with religion as long as its practitioners don’t have the temerity to act as if those beliefs are true.
Francis Beckwith (4829ed) — 6/11/2010 @ 10:50 am