Hillary Clinton: U.S. Should Be Like Brazil
[Guest post by DRJ]
Hillary Clinton thinks rich Americans don’t pay their share of taxes and the United States should be more like Brazil:
“Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made a rare foray into domestic politics today, offering her view that — given America’s high unemployment — wealthy Americans don’t pay enough taxes.
“The rich are not paying their fair share in any nation that is facing the kind of employment issues [America currently does] — whether it’s individual, corporate or whatever [form of] taxation forms,” Clinton told an audience at the Brookings Institute, where she was discussing the administration’s new National Security Strategy.
Clinton said the comment was her personal opinion. “I’m not speaking for the administration, so I’ll preface that with a very clear caveat,” she said.
Clinton went on to cite Brazil as a model.
“Brazil has the highest tax-to-GDP rate in the Western Hemisphere and guess what — they’re growing like crazy,” Clinton said. “And the rich are getting richer, but they’re pulling people out of poverty.”
Brazil is not a good model for Ameridca America. With its expansive spending on social welfare programs and few funds for its decaying infrastructure, Brazil’s economic system is unsustainable.
— DRJ
I’m sure Hillary and Bill are going to voluntarily pay lots more taxes, just for the good of the country. NOT!
PatAZ (9d1bb3) — 5/28/2010 @ 6:43 pmIf Brazil is doing so well, why are we sending them aid?
Ken Hahn (1c6727) — 5/28/2010 @ 6:43 pmTwo questions for Hildebeast:
1) What is the “fair share”? 40%? 50%? 60% of income? Do you, like Obama, believe that no one should make more than $250k per year?
2) How much did you and Billy Bob pay last year?
3) Will you state that going forward, you and Billy Bob will pay 100% of your income over the threshold you established in 1)?
4) Will you also pay your back taxes for the past twenty years based on what you established in 1)?
It’ll be like throwing a bucket of water on her.
North Dallas Thirty (d6a885) — 5/28/2010 @ 6:44 pmHillary should move to Brazil if she thinks its so wonderful…..
can’t you just see her and Bill in matching thongs, cruising Carnival for SYT’s?
😀
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 5/28/2010 @ 6:45 pmI think Hillary sees Obama’s polls and thinks she may someday have a shot at replacing him. Just in case that day comes, she’s adopting some of Obama’s soak-the-rich rhetoric.
DRJ (d43dcd) — 5/28/2010 @ 6:47 pmit’s an even worse recipe for America.
and to think that some people wanted her to be President?
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 5/28/2010 @ 6:47 pmYikes. That’s a typo I need to fix.
DRJ (d43dcd) — 5/28/2010 @ 6:48 pmHillary shows us that all the nuts aren’t in Brazil
Some chump (967a70) — 5/28/2010 @ 6:50 pmBrazil gets to drill as many oils as they want and we even pay them to do it.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/28/2010 @ 6:50 pmI agree with you folks above. When anything is said about “the rich should be paying more in taxes” the next question should be what was their net income, what did they have pay to for taxes, and how much extra did they pay.
If slow on the response point out what percentage of the tax base is already paid by the wealthiest, and point out FDR’s hypocrisy and ask if that is the model for the Dem party, that all of the other rich people should be paying more taxes.
Conservatives who say they believe more help should come from the private sector can show their returns and how much they donated to charity. I don’t expect someone who thinks aid should come through the government to give much to charity, but if they are intellectually honest it would make sense that they gave extra to the government, and keep the discussion on those points.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 5/28/2010 @ 7:54 pmruthless drug dealers that run the cities from jail, local cops that make Jack Bauer look like
ian cormac (ee040c) — 5/28/2010 @ 7:59 pman ACLU liberal, roving bands of street urchins
ready to strip you of all your belonging, including
your life, yeah give me some of that
Good grief, these people are insufferable.
First we have our President proclaiming, “I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money” and now we have Hillary telling us “The rich are not paying their fair share…”.
I wish they would mind their business and understand what a great privilege it is to live in a country where making money is a good thing, instead of finding ways to condemn it as if it were sinful or something.
I also wish they would stop trying to stifle or inhibit individual growth of wealth amongst Americans through excessive taxes, regs, etc. and deciding for us what is enough.
And can they please stop telling us that we should be like another country because how and who we are just isn’t good enough. Their projection has grown tiresome.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/28/2010 @ 8:23 pmSomeone tell our SoS that the rich in Brazil live behind walls while the poor run through the slums. My sister-in-law spent a year of grad school in Rio and came back with a Brazilian boyfriend.
Egads the stories they told. Society is closer to Lord of the Flies than Pleasantville. The poor down there are really poor – as in slums with no running water or electricity. Their crime makes Chicago look like an Amish village.
If Clinton really believes this Marxist crap she should spend a month in Rio or Sao Paulo. She could tell them how the poor live here and see how many people try to leave Brazil with her.
MU789 (bf47e4) — 5/28/2010 @ 8:42 pmHillary’s frightening, death-defying experience from dodging sniper fire while at an airport in Bosnia several years ago has definitely affected her judgment. The poor woman now is more touched in the head than before.
Mark (411533) — 5/28/2010 @ 9:40 pm“I’m not speaking for the administration, so I’ll preface that with a very clear caveat.”
Right. The current administration would have quite a beef with what she said. Their model is Venezuela, not Brazil.
beer 'n pretzels (3d1d61) — 5/28/2010 @ 10:25 pmI think it is useful for people who might be thinking that she would have been a better option than Obami to remember gaffes like this. She is just as hard left as he is.
Mike K (67e8ce) — 5/28/2010 @ 10:50 pmchoosing between her and Ear Leader is like trying to decide which side of the used toilet paper to chew on first…..
😀
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 5/28/2010 @ 11:26 pmWell, Hillary may soon be right, but she isn’t yet.
If the trend continues I will move to Brazil. Lived there for 11 years in my youth so it’s a second home anyway.
They have pretty serious nanny state policies that will ensure the huge gap between classes continues. The incentives are all wrong for the masses.
Dan S (2ae84c) — 5/29/2010 @ 5:44 amredc1c4 wrote:
I just threw up.
The Dana who feels ill (474dfc) — 5/29/2010 @ 6:26 amBrazil? Perhaps she’s just channeling her inner Glenn Greenwald.
The snarky Dana (474dfc) — 5/29/2010 @ 6:27 amI just threw up in my mouth… a lot.
V the K (a84c5d) — 5/29/2010 @ 6:37 amredc1c4 wrote:
Oh, you’re on a roll now!
The punny Dana (474dfc) — 5/29/2010 @ 6:41 amMU789 wrote:
What makes you think she has any idea how the poor live in the United States? Unlike her estranged husband, she did not grow up in poverty, but in a well-to-do (though not wealthy) household; after high school, she matriculated to Wellesley College, not exactly an inexpensive school in the low-rent district.
Our Secretary of State has certainly heard of poverty, probably read about it, and married a man who grew up in poverty (though he wasn’t poor when they met), but I seriously doubt she has any understanding of it at all.
The unamused Dana (474dfc) — 5/29/2010 @ 6:50 amWhat happened to my previous post
ian cormac (ee040c) — 5/29/2010 @ 7:05 am“But see, there’s rich people, then there’s middle-class people, then there’s poor people. BUT, if we would just well-educate everybody — and don’t tell me that some people are limited in what they are able to learn; we’re all human, therefore we’re all able to be well-educated — and guarantee everyone a middle-class income (raising up the poor while stifling the rich), then everything will be just dandy! See?”
Icy Texan (f6dd9c) — 5/29/2010 @ 7:24 amSusan McDougal was unavailable for comment.
Dmac (3d61d9) — 5/29/2010 @ 7:34 amThere is some amazing stupidity in the Democratic Party these days.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/29/2010 @ 8:38 am“Bleeding heart liberals” should be recast as “brain bleed lefties”.
Fraidy Cat Hoot Owl (f6dd9c) — 5/29/2010 @ 9:29 amOh no! Secret identity exposed
Icy Texan (f6dd9c) — 5/29/2010 @ 9:30 amI agree with you folks above. When anything is said about “the rich should be paying more in taxes” the next question should be what was their net income, what did they have pay to for taxes, and how much extra did they pay.
Exactly.
As I say over and over, anybody who takes deductions doesn’t seriously believe he doesn’t pay enough in taxes.
And Brazil? My friends who live there drive armored SUVs. They will not stop on the streets and get out of their car for anything.
MayBee (71664d) — 5/29/2010 @ 9:37 amHillary probably has an armored SUV. Doesn’t everyone that matters?
DRJ (d43dcd) — 5/29/2010 @ 9:44 amThe first 20-30 years of socialism are great; then you start running out of other people’s money (Mrs. Thatcher) and it’s all downhill.
Patricia (160852) — 5/29/2010 @ 10:19 am