Patterico's Pontifications

5/26/2010

Cordoba House

Filed under: Religion — DRJ @ 10:59 am

[Guest post by DRJ]

Why did New York approve a Muslim Center near Ground Zero, and why will it be named Cordoba House?

“Plans to build Cordoba House, a 15-story Islamic Center two blocks north of Ground Zero, received a major boost yesterday when a Manhattan community board backed the proposal by a 29-to-1 vote. Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf said the center would help “bridge and heal a divide” among Muslims and other religious groups.

Perhaps the Imam is sincere but I find the whole project an outrage. The name Cordoba House at best conveys a total insensitivity to the families of victims of the attack at worse it shows sympathy with the terrorist’s goals. Cordoba, was the Capital of Al-Andalus the Islamic Caliphate that ruled much of Spain during the Middle Ages. One of Al-Qaida’s main goals announced after the 9/11 attack was the restoration of the Cordoba Caliphate in Al-Andalus.

The Project is said to cost $100 million and no one seems to know who is paying for all of this. There are hundreds of Mosques in the New York area in a nation dedicated to religious freedom. If the Imam wants to “bridge and heal a divide” among Muslims and other faiths he should look beyond Manhattan. There are no churches or synagogues in Mecca, Riyadh or Kuwait. In Egypt, Iran and other Islamic nations those who don’t adhere to Islam practice their faiths at great risk to themselves and their families. I don’t understand why Mayor Bloomberg and other local officials are supporting this project.

Can anyone explain?”

I don’t think New Yorkers want to know the answer.

– DRJ

40 Responses to “Cordoba House”

  1. Maybe they’re using real Corinthian leather?

    Dan Collins (818624)

  2. Again, shows how clueless Liberals are, and Bloomberg is a RINO, ex-Democrat, Liberal.

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  3. i still say it would be a damn shame if the building burnt down one night….

    redc1c4 (fb8750)

  4. Manhattan is so densely packed with businesses and public accommodations that saying it’s “only two blocks” from Ground Zero doesn’t really mean much.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there were more porn shops and/or strip clubs in the area.

    AJB (d64738)

  5. Yup. As long as it’s not on the Twin Towers site ….

    nk (db4a41)

  6. Cordobian Leather? @Dan Collins – what the hell does this have to do with midgets?

    Enoch_Root (9548cd)

  7. AJB – How does porn or strippers related to the 9/11 site?

    JD (2855f9)

  8. The Cordoba House website has a map of the proposed mosque and its proximity to the World Trade Center site. Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

    DRJ (d43dcd)

  9. JD, in this case, it is an obscenity, and remember the 9/11 hijackers all went to strip clubs to kill time before they went to Boston to hijack the planes.

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  10. 3, Red, it would be tragic if an natural gas line rupture happened repeatedly to that “mosque”.

    Maybe there will be Patriotic Union work actions at this site?

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  11. This is a deliberate act of provocation.
    Perhaps they can convince the ELF of their good intentions?

    AD - RtR/OS! (39b1d4)

  12. Exactly. The first thing I did when I saw the name was to google Cordoba.

    One plus one always equals two.

    Patricia (160852)

  13. I don’t know how the city could deny the permit on religious grounds. Or any grounds other than the usual — zoning, traffic congestion, building to land ratio, height, etc.

    nk (db4a41)

  14. In response to #13.

    On the grounds that Islam is in violation of the separation of church and state. It’s like keeping military recruiters off the Harvard campus because of perceived community opposition to Don’t ask, don’t tell.

    Islam is the State Religion in Muslim countries. Many New Yorkers object to mosques in their city recruiting homegrown terrorists to continue attacks like the two directed against the Twin Towers.

    ropelight (9cdba2)

  15. Plans to build Cordoba House, a 15-story Islamic Center two blocks north of Ground Zero, received a major boost yesterday when a Manhattan community board backed the proposal by a 29-to-1 vote.

    What else can you expect from a Manhattan community board? I’m just surprised they did not ban any display of the American flag while they were at it.

    Subotai (6526fc)

  16. From Wikipedia:

    Córdoba (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈkorðoβa]; also Cordova) is a city in Andalusia, southern Spain, and the capital of the province of Córdoba. An Iberian and Roman city in ancient times, in the Middle Ages it was a capital of an Islamic caliphate and one of the largest cities in the world.

    Oh, yeah, it’s provocative.

    LarryD (feb78b)

  17. to all of the buffoons that think there are porn shops between the site and the world trade center- there is not. it is literally 2 very very short streets away. it is within sight of the wtc. i live there- i know.

    ruby nachom (9a12f9)

  18. The Mosque in Cordoba is a nice Church now.

    Wish we had the fortitude and commonsense of those folks.

    FWIW, 29-1 vote to approve it. Welcome to NYC. PC Capital of the WORLD!!!!!!!!!

    HeavenSent (a9126d)

  19. Bloomberg may know how to make money, but the sonuvabitch is clueless in nearly every other respect.

    What happened to the possibility of this area being designated an historical site, which would preclude the construction of a structure meant to provoke a people who are perceived by Islam to be weak sucks, ripe for the plucking?

    GeneralMalaise (4e741b)

  20. Am I the only one that understands the “real corinthian leather” comment? Possibly my age has something to do with it. That was what the seats in a car (think a Chrysler) commencial done by Ricardo Montalban (I think that one also). But supposed to be very expensive and the new mosque is supposed to be very expensive. If this isn’t the connection, please correct me.

    PatAZ (655234)

  21. No, you’re not the only one, Pat. Ricardo Montalbán touting the soft, Corinthian leather used on the seats of the Chrysler Cordoba.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDEUrVHvENc

    GeneralMalaise (4e741b)

  22. Thanks, General. It was the Cordoba part I forgot about. duh

    PatAZ (655234)

  23. We are not all New Yorkers.

    happyfeet (c8caab)

  24. If New York City caves and doesn’t make a solid, collective stand against this, then I fear it does not bode well for the rest of the country. It’s really shocking they of all people, would give in at 29-1. How quickly we forget, and how easily we roll over. This is not the America we once knew.

    Dana (1e5ad4)

  25. Don’t forget Spanish boots of Spanish leather.

    ropelight (9cdba2)

  26. Doomsberg thinks if he kisses their a** enough they will kill him last.

    Scrapiron (996c34)

  27. So, if some Jewish or Catholic terrorist should blow up the new mosque, will the City Council insist upon building a synagogue or a cathedral there, just to show there’s no hard feelings????

    Thomas Hazlewood (a57170)

  28. Any updates on the flight 93 monument shaped like a crescent?

    Pinandpuller (ac62c3)

  29. #28, P&P, last I heard the memorial was still going to be in the general shape of a crescent.

    This example of homage to Islamic terrorism is a shameful departure from the response of Viennese bakers who invented the croissant in 1683 to mock the Muslim army’s defeat at the gates of their city.

    ropelight (9df278)

  30. One factual correction: There is a catholic church in Kuwait. I’ve been to it, and it is rather nice.

    Robert C. J. Parry (6fe4b2)

  31. Why wouldn’t they approve it?

    pizzathehut (07a684)

  32. For all of those calling for burning this building down, you better light the fire with the constitution. I can’t believe this country is so full of bigots.

    NewPolemic (d0315c)

  33. I can’t believe this country is so full of bigots.
    Comment by NewPolemic — 6/7/2010 @ 5:45 am

    Why do I think you readily believe people are bigots? Not yourself of course, but others. People not like you. In fact, everybody not like you.

    Stashiu3 (44da70)

  34. It’s all those Nazi meeting halls in the every small town around the country, Stash.

    My own evaluation of Islam is that we should make mosques as welcome, but that is a personal observation.

    EW1(SG) (edc268)

  35. HOW DARE THEY…AND HOW STUPID ARE WE?????

    Cathy Cornell (eb3bdb)

  36. The question remains as to how far away is far enough? Is all of downtown manhattan not allowed? All of New York city?

    This country was founded on the basis of the freedom to practice any religion we see fit (it is our very first amendment). For he who says this violates the doctrine of church and state, I’m not sure where there is a mixing of church and state here. This is a private organization. The state is not engaging in any activity.

    I understand your feeling a sense of offense, and there are actually Muslims who agree with you (“why offend people and cause unwanted tension?” “Use the money to build 10 mosques elsewhere”), but if it is approved, it most certainly is protected by our Constitution and you should actively support it.

    irafeek (131ec8)

  37. In addition, I believe the true test of an American is being to not agree with someone’s viewpoints of beliefs, but still supporting their rights to these viewpoints or beliefs. In this situation, while many may not agree with the mosque being built there, they should support the rights of the Muslims to build it there.

    irafeek (131ec8)

  38. irafeek,

    I can support their right and disagree with their decision, as well as the decision of the community board. It’s a private organization, yes. The community board is not. Why must there be a separation of church and state only when it’s convenient for liberals? Just because that right is protected doesn’t mean people can’t object to the exercise of it. Your position doesn’t work very well with gun control advocates, why should I be swayed?

    Stashiu3 (44da70)

  39. Building a mosque in the shadow of the WTC is a provocation and an insult. People should continue to fight against it–unless churches and temples are built in Kuwait, Mecca, etc..

    It’s seen in the Middle East as a major propaganda coup and future tool..

    moeursalen (713a08)

  40. i can’t believe Americans would entertain the idea of celebrating the muslim community by building a meeting place for them. Did they forget Islam destroyed millions of people’s lives. that’s whats wrong with this country!?!

    J.D. (0bf15c)


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