Not Again: Obama vs Bush in 2010?
[Guest post by DRJ]
It worked before. Will it work again?
“The White House’s mid-term election strategy is becoming clear – pit the Democrats of 2010 against the Republicans circa 2006, 2008 and 2009, including Bush.
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The first glimmers of Obama’s 2010 message came in New York last week where he rallied the party faithful with a charge that Republicans drove the economy into a ditch, obstructed Democrats’ efforts to pull it out and now want back the keys. “Sounds like he wants to run against George Bush one more time, doesn’t it?” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell quipped when shown the clip on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”Obama cranked up his indictment of the GOP in Ohio this week, criticizing “the ‘just say no’ crowd” and the Republicans’ “selective memory” of the economy in January 2009.
The message is layered. A shot at Bush (without mentioning his name.) A jab at congressional Republicans (although rarely saying “Republicans.”) A defense of the actions he’s taken so far.
It’s a striking approach for a president who often talks of looking forward not backward.”
— DRJ
It’s especially risky since I believe Bush’s approval ratings are now at least as high as O’s.
VaGal (59672c) — 5/22/2010 @ 1:02 pmIf Obama had been successful in reviving the economy, increasing jobs and reducing the deficit, we would be hearing about that. The fact that he has to run against Bush says a lot about his success, or lack thereof.
I just hope Republicans can stay on message. Spending, jobs, freedom. Rand Paul has a steep learning curve with a very short “X” axis.
Mike K (82f374) — 5/22/2010 @ 1:02 pmBush is my favorite one ever. America was better when Bush was president. Now it’s very, very gayed up and very, very poor.
Tell you the truth I’m not particularly proud of my little country anymore. I never thought we could be so losery and gay as when after the dirty socialists perverted everything up. And Team R got nuffin to say about it. Not a one of those cowards stands up and calls out the perverted destructive little president man what is viciously ass-raping our little country for what he is. He’s to our country what a seasoned pedophile is to a nursery school.
Who’s been especially useless is Meghan’s coward daddy, who had a special responsibility to speak up I think what he has abdicated. He was the last Team R nominee for no reason anyone can explain, and his deep uselessness in answer to the little president man’s dirty socialist molestations of our vulnerable and frightened little country should ensure his defeat in November I think, no matter what his opportunistic and slightly whorish self-appointed spokesmodel Sarah Palin has to say about it.
We are become a sheepish loser weak-assed fail fail fail nation and it’s not at all like the little country I thought I knew.
Can I have another pancake please?
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 1:22 pmGot anger?
HeavenSent (a9126d) — 5/22/2010 @ 1:39 pmGot pancake?
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 1:40 pmTomorrow morning.
(** FWIW, I agree with you.)
HeavenSent (a9126d) — 5/22/2010 @ 1:51 pmfeets….
AD - RtR/OS! (3c862f) — 5/22/2010 @ 2:09 pmIt is protocol that the previous President does not comment on his successor’s lack of accomplishment. This has mostly been honored by Republican ex-Presidents, not so much by Democrats.
You can do a Goggle search and find no criticism of Obama by Bush-43, nor of Clinton by Bush-41; and I don’t recall any of Carter by Ford, nor of Kennedy by Ike.
Obowman is in a class(less) all by hisself, and well deserves all of the opprobrium that he will eventually bring upon himself and his administration.
What other approach do they have as an alternative?
Even what they consider to be victories (Health Care Reform) is met with disapproval by the majority of citizens.
Even successful lying is usually based on a little bit of truth.
MD in Philly (cb8efe) — 5/22/2010 @ 2:11 pmno AD I didn’t say Bush had to comment… I said as the head of Team R (partly by default of feckless dipshit Michael Steele), Meghan’s coward daddy needs to step up and call the little president man out for the willfully defiling molester that he is…
But mostly he’s just concerned about saying whatever it takes to keep his coward ass in power.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 2:23 pmThis is basically a modified version of the Reagan ’82 strategy. Reagan faced a lousy economy in ’82 and spent a fairly significant amount of time blaming the structural problems in the economy on his predecessor. This is something explicitly noted by TNR among others, so this is likely the reason they’ve settled on the approach.
But here’s the thing: #1, the strategy only “worked” in the sense that it minimized losses, the GOP still took a thumping in the election. #2, to the extent it worked, it did because Reagan’s team had focused on the economy. Reagan was able to articulate his particular approach to fixing the economy — a hard money policy designed to lower long term interest rates combined with tax cuts to spur investment — and why it would succeed long term.
What has Obama done to improve the economy? To him, the economy is nothing but an afterthought/ distraction on his glorious 5 year plans to nationalize healthcare, banking, the automotive industry, etc. Whenever Obama defends stimulus’s positive effect on the economy he sounds like a blithering idiot (and no, he isn’t an idiot, he really is one of our smarter presidents, but even a smart person sounds like an idiot when he’s defending the indefensible and/or lying through his teeth).
Maybe its me, but I suspect there are very, very few independants who listen to Obama talk about the economy and will come away with the impression that he’s doing everything he can and/or he knows what he’s talking about — and if he can’t cross that threshhold with voters, the blame Bush shtick will fall flat on its face in November.
Sean P (6f6c60) — 5/22/2010 @ 2:58 pmif Americans are still looking to what their feckless useless damaging institution of the presidency can do to help the economy then nothing at all has been learned.
The American presidency is a thoroughly discredited failed institution what is apparently easily suborned by anti-American dirty socialists.
We need to have our joke of a presidency spayed or neutered, much like we need to do with Congress.
Nothing gayer than the douchebag American president, days are, and given what Team R is offering as nominees that seems very unlikely to change anytime soon.
The economy will only be fixed when Washington is a castrated eunuch dancing the monkey dance.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 3:07 pmthat didn’t paragraph right
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 3:12 pmIf the current president facing a second term election has got nothing else but bashing the previous president, then he’s really got nothing.
There aren’t any great successes to point out – Health Care doesn’t count because it did not have a majority of support from voters – so he’s really stuck trying to find something to rally voters with. So going negative seems to be his only option. Stir up old anger at Bush and hope the left is still angry enough to get on board with the hate.
I don’t think it will work, and that the left he counted on is actually disappointed in the fact that in a number of areas, he has come out looking rather similar to Bush thus his calculations might be off more than he realizes. I hope he continues with this plan.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/22/2010 @ 3:46 pmno successes? He brought our little country to its knees.
That’s what they wanted.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 3:54 pmIt depends on what the definition of success is.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/22/2010 @ 4:00 pmyes… but I think even were they voted out tomorrow they would feel absolutely flush with accomplishment.
How much faith do you have that the feckless cowardly Team R will even want to roll a substantial part of the damage back?
This is the party what nominated the cowardly John McCain… for president no less.
This one.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 4:07 pmThis is the party what shrugs when ditzy spokesmodel Sarah Palin works to return this useless coward to the Senate.
America is so done.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 4:08 pmI don’t know, feets. I think it shows a great deal of moral character to stand by “the one who brung her” in the face of a great deal of dissatisfaction and criticism.
AD - RtR/OS! (3c862f) — 5/22/2010 @ 4:20 pmAs we have seen with Obowman, throwing people under the bus is easy.
I’m with you AD. Palin gets a pass on her support for McCain, she owes him, sort of. However, that debt has been paid in full, with interest.
ropelight (4a690a) — 5/22/2010 @ 4:26 pmWell, that was upbeat. Blaming McCain is ironic. Defeatism among conservatives and Republicans serves what, exactly?
That’s right. Obama and his friends.
This is what I ask myself: does what I write or say make Axelrod smile about 2010 and 2012?
Just a thought.
Eric Blair (8eff53) — 5/22/2010 @ 4:28 pmThe Dems have settled on their playbook and I think Bush will be very present in all the elections this year. In my state, (that would be the Land of Lincoln) the basketball playing buddy of the president who is the wholly unqualified Dem Senate candidate, (that would be Alexi Giannoulias) has been whining, moaning, and crying that people only want to talk about his failed bank–not the *important* issues. So, what is Alexi’s first big ad buy to talk about the important issues? Why, it is an attack ad showing his opponent, a smiling Congressman Mark Kirk, standing somewhere at some time with President Bush.
It is a stupid, overwrought, hackneyed election strategy that is unlikely to resonate with most voters, who are frankly quite weary of the “we inherited this mess” cop-out. But what are the Dems supposed to campaign on? The wonderfulness of the economy, the great job the anti-terror agencies are doing, and the oh-so-very-popular Obamacare??
elissa (7a2c3c) — 5/22/2010 @ 5:07 pmTaking “tone deaf” to new levels of insanity.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/22/2010 @ 5:09 pmThat’s not moral character, playing a political game to get a chit from this useless geezer. Moral character would be to say oh hey there I’m a ditzy loser and I need to go away because America’s problems are bigger than a not terribly bright half-term failed governor like me can contend with and I’m just getting in the way.
The triviality that the woman brings to our politics is so immensely disheartening I need another pancake.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 5:17 pmfull disclosure: I don’t like Sarah Palin
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 5:18 pmand don’t tell me she’s harmless Mr. Allah has links what say she is the mostest influential Team R one.
She’s even more influentialer than Michael Steele.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 5:20 pmAs much as you hate Palin, hf, she has an instinct for saying what many conservatives think — just as Obama has a knack for saying things that appeal to many liberals. In these days when more and more politicians seem out of touch, that’s nothing to sneeze at.
DRJ (d43dcd) — 5/22/2010 @ 5:34 pmSarah Palin more influential than Michael Steele?
Wow, what a catastrophe! That’s gotta be the third horseman of the Apocalype. (sarcasm)
Get a grip, happyfeet.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/22/2010 @ 5:35 pmYes you have made that abundantly clear, feets, even though you’ve denied personal animus on occasion, but the evidence is rather damning.
ian cormac (2f975b) — 5/22/2010 @ 5:44 pmHumor me though, what policy do you have a disagreement on, well probably immigration, but defense of our country, support for offshore
drilling even in this tough time
she does not I don’t think have an instinct… she panders… she says what people want to hear for so they buy her book… but she never tackles anything big. She has no entitlement reform proposals. She has no way of raising more revenue. She has no thoughts on abolishing the federal government, which is uncommon gay.
Sarah: Hey fellow conservatives what we need to do in this great country of ours whether it’s entitlements or problems with your dishwasher being out of warranty is to apply COMMONSENSE CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES!!!!
Conservatives: YAYYYY!!! I bought your book I LOVE YOU!!!! I named my twins Sarah and Todd oh God she looked at me did you get a picture tell me you got a picture I’ll die if you didn’t get a picture
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 5:47 pmit’s impossible to disagree with a Satah palin policy Ian, they were baked in a test lad for agreeability, but tell you what, she thinks a loser freak like Carly Fiorina is the answer? She thinks Meghan’s coward daddy is the answer?
That’s very revealing.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 5:49 pma test *lab* I mean
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 5:50 pm*Sarah Palin* I mean sorry the kettle started shrieking at me for so I could make mango tea
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 5:52 pmhappyfeet,
She never tackles anything big? You mean like:
DRJ (d43dcd) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:00 pm23.full disclosure: I don’t like Sarah Palin
Comment by happyfeet
Thank you for clarifying that for me, I wasn’t sure. What part of direct, clear, logical speech do you not like? She still has more (successful)executive experience than Obama.
21. Comment by elissa
I believe I have a candidate for the Repubs in Ill. to consider for Senate, though it’s too late now-
Mike Singletary- he’s a hero in Chicago and Illinois, he is smart, makes a good impression on TV, strong conservative values- I don’t know details about his political views, just the impression of what his approach to life is like. I know he has had some press coverage about being upset as a coach, I don’t know the details to judge if it is a negative.
Of course, he would need to want to do it, but he impresses me as one of those people who would do it because it was important.
Lynn Swan did not do well in PA, but he was longer ago and only one of many, many big names, and he ran against Rendell, who is as good as politicians get at being a politician.
MD in Philly (cb8efe) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:02 pmActually I was being very civil, so you’re for Devore then, but he really doesn’t look like he can win, meaning Campbell would be the beneficiary, and
ian cormac (2f975b) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:04 pmhe has a whole host of curious associations
what has any of her babblings accomplished though? Death panels passed. Her drill baby drill is now used as an emblem of her inanity. If you want to drill oil, you really don’t want that woman saying stuff out loud right now.
Nationalizing the issue of Arizona’s law is not what Team R needed to do, and it was very stupid of the woman to help do that. She’ll drive hispanics away from the party in their thousands. They hate her, you know. All on an issue Team R already owned. Not brilliant.
And I’m increasingly ambivalent about the dirty socialist and increasingly fascist failed state what I have to live in to having scary weapons.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:10 pmI’m not for anyone in that race, ian… they’re all stupidheads what would fail fail fail to represent me.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:12 pmHappyfeet, seriously, once and for all tell us what it is that irks you about Palin’s politics – not her rhetoric, not her perpetual cheerfulness, not her wonky speak, but which policies and stands that she aligns herself with, do you disagree with and why?
She can seriously irritate me on a number of levels but I still have yet to see a position on a political issue that I don’t agree with her on. Perhaps read some of her Facebook essays and see what there is to quibble about.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:12 pmto *be* having scary weapons I mean
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:13 pmhappyfeet,
What conservative policies do you support?
DRJ (d43dcd) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:15 pmshe has no politics, Dana… she’s a SPOKESMODEL… she is not a politician. She was a politician but she cowardly bailed… John McCain is her mentor, you know.
If she wants to contribute more than babble she is more than welcome to throw her hat in the ring. But then she couldn’t fleece her fans, could she?
It’s a conundrum.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:15 pmYes they passed it, and as Nancy Pelosi, pointed out, now they know they don’t qualify for their own plans, genius I tell you. The events of the last month are only indicative of why BP, the Green energy company, which was the largest donor to Obama shouldn’t be trusted with managing a fill in station, but it doesn’t deny the need for offshore drilling
ian cormac (2f975b) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:18 pmI support limited government. I support a secure border. I support more limited government. I support low taxes. I support abolishing many many government departments. I support rounding up union members and disposing of them in a way that would displease the United Nations and many provinces in Canada. I support a balanced budget. I support vo-tech programs. I support private education and school voucherings. I support flat taxes and tax simplification generally. I support abolishing the mortgage interest deduction. I support cupcake factories having free cupcake Fridays.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:19 pmThat’s interesting MD. I knew he was an in-demand motivational speaker but I have never heard Singletary indicate an interest in politics. And of course he now lives in California as coach of the Niners. No question, though, Mike is revered around here both as a quality human, (and family man) and as a key member of the legendary ’85 Bears, and he will always be considered a Chicagoan. Unfortunately, he may just have put any future Illinois candidacy at risk– for just this week he was asked if he was rooting for the Sharks or the Blackhawks, and knowing where his bread is currently buttered, he said “Sharks”. That did NOT set well with Chicago hockey fans. LOL
elissa (7a2c3c) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:20 pmI still have yet to see a position on a political issue that I don’t agree with her on.
this should concern you.. it’s not real.
She supports John McCain. That doesn’t square with drill baby drill. That doesn’t square with secure borders. That doesn’t square with having political courage.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:22 pmComment by happyfeet — 5/22/2010 @ 6:19 pm
hf, aside from her support of free cupcake Fridays (and actually disposing of union members) , we know from her essays and speeches, that she also agrees with you on these issues. I don’t see a lot of air between the two of you.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:26 pmI’m willing to compromise on the cupcakes.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:33 pmAll right we’re never going to agree on this, OT, do you think they are make Boyd too sympathetic on “Justified”,He’s supposed to be the villain, he comes off as more cynical like Fred Thompson’s role on Wiseguy, two decades back.I mean Raylan’s the hero, Natalie Zea’s character is really why I watch
ian cormac (2f975b) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:34 pmI only saw the first episode and then I failed on that one. It was likable but it needed space monsters or vampires or a talking dog or something I thought.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:36 pmI like Boyd, he’s got a serious crazy going on in the name of Jesus that plays well and keeps me amused.
And Raylan keeps me coming back.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:42 pmMitch Daniels I don’t know if you can hear me but our little country needs you. I need you. These PalinHuckabeeRomneyPawlenty Team R ones are on my last nerve and I need you to make them your bitch.
Thank you.
Plus if you could work on the cupcake problem.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:43 pmwtf?
That is so not America.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:45 pmhappyfeet, it seems it’s the presentation and packaging of Palin that rubs you wrong more than the actual stands she makes. With that I can agree.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:46 pm“hf, aside from her support of free cupcake Fridays (and actually disposing of union members) , we know from her essays and speeches, that she also agrees with you on these issues. I don’t see a lot of air between the two of you.”
– Dana
We know that she says she agrees with him on those issues, but that’s the problem: he doesn’t believe her. If you don’t trust someone, or trust them only to pander to you, then what does it matter what they say? They’re just sweet talking you, and they’ll sell you down the river if it suits their purposes. I understand the feeling – if you asked me to pick a politician I trusted right now, I don’t think I’d be able to find one. And why the hell should I vote for someone I don’t even trust? So I understand the animus – especially if its born of frustration born of the observation that a lot of people are being duped by Palin because she’s just so gosh-darned swell.
Leviticus (30ac20) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:46 pmThe problem is he’s using exactly the same frames of those who either gave us Obama, or made excuses
ian cormac (2f975b) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:52 pmfor him. Trust me she doesn’t get in, they’ll make up all sorts of things about Daniels, truth is never
an object for those folks. Which means Huckabee at the end of the day
Leviticus, all I know for sure is that we still talk about her. Funny that.
I understand your point about trusting/not trusting but I’m not sure how people are being duped by her. They might *possibly* be duped by her if she is indeed just pandering, but that’s an unknown. It’s equally possible that she is not pandering but simply expressing the truth of her beliefs.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:55 pmI’m skeptical about a lot, we’re still dealing with
ian cormac (2f975b) — 5/22/2010 @ 6:59 pmthe likes of Charlie Crist, whose party drones managed to waste nearly 8 million in party dues, and despite that we still almost carried Florida
Leviticus,
How do you know if any politician is telling the truth unless you know them personally?
DRJ (d43dcd) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:02 pm“They might *possibly* be duped by her if she is indeed just pandering, but that’s an unknown. It’s equally possible that she is not pandering but simply expressing the truth of her beliefs.”
– Dana
Yep. So it comes down to a gut feeling, at some point. I think we know where happyfeet is at on that one.
I struggle with this, I suppose – being uncharitably disposed toward politicians, not giving them the benefit of the doubt in these matters. But it’s not really personal, and I think they’ve earned it.
Leviticus (30ac20) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:02 pmI agree that it does come down to a gut-level discernment. But it also can come down to a practical evidence: Palin claims to be staunchly pro-life. She became pregnant with a Downs Syndrome baby and chose to give birth to her baby rather than to have an abortion. Her stand on oil drilling has been evidence through action in Alaska, etc. So I think there can also being an action consistently reinforcing the policy stand one makes.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:05 pmThe Politico piece is a sign that satire is dead, when has Obama ever given an honest accounting for himself, never, one of those who did warn us, was
ian cormac (2f975b) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:09 pmexactly the one who feets is so contemptuous about, he repeats every cliche that Tina Fey, the gal from Upper Darby uttered during the campaign
Certainly, I agree with that. To be fair, happyfeet seems more concerned with fiscal issues/reduction of government than social issues like abortion. And she does have limited executive experience (albeit more than Obama, in case anyone decides that’s worth mentioning).
Leviticus (30ac20) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:10 pmthis is the sort of healthy discussion what was not really possible this time last year
This heartens me.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:11 pmThey are facile. Plus they’re a lot substanceless when they’re coming out of the mouth of a paid Fox News comment babe. Sounds suspiciously like fodder. Filler. Fluffernutter. I think she skates by on charisma and she invokes pity to where people feel defensive of her.
I don’t connect with her on a personal level. I would not want to have a beer with Sarah Palin. God how awkward would that be?
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:21 pmI meant evokes
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:22 pmwhat politics is lacking for me in these waning days of America is a One Good Thing… there just isn’t a One Good Thing…
for a lot of people, Sarah Palin is a One Good Thing, but I think that just points up a dearth of One Good Things
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:29 pmWell feets you give no proof of this, just you hunch
ian cormac (2f975b) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:29 pmthat is your right, of course, but truth is a an important tool, that is what concerns me most.
Bush used to be a One Good Thing.
I miss him awful.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:29 pmhappyfeet,
Bush is liberal on many social issues and some fiscal issues, too. Apparently you are, too. I probably am as well but that doesn’t mean we get to decide what all conservatives stand for.
By the way, are there any conservative women you support?
DRJ (d43dcd) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:35 pmAs far as I can determine, Palin is too pretty for happyfeet.
SPQR (26be8b) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:37 pmI think Palin is seriously over-exposed, but agree that she does connect with the disaffected and disillusioned folks in the heartland. Having said that, the lefty folk who feel it necessary to take their shots at her (cheap shots in the case of her family) are quite pathetic and fail to understand that their insults say much more about themselves than anyone else.
And Barack Hussein Obama is an articulate, unaccomplished empty suit who will serve one term.
Generalmalaise (8f3781) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:40 pmConservative women I support are include Liz Cheney and Jeri Thompson but not Marsha Blackburn.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:41 pmComment by ian cormac — 5/22/2010 @ 6:04 pm
Don’t think Campbell has that much support; in fact, he and Carly might just split the RINO vote, and hand the thing to DeVore.
No Conservative of any character would be caught dead in the same room with Campbell.
Oh, you know why Raylan always wears that hat?
AD - RtR/OS! (3c862f) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:42 pmIt’s to cover up his bar-code.
Laura Bush is a great lady too she has her head on right, that one.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:42 pmCampbell is gay. Carly is creepy.
So DeVore it is then.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:44 pmYeah, that was a cool film, he also played a decent
ian cormac (2f975b) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:48 pmvillain in the last Die Hard, the roles don’t overlap as with some people
I like Cheney and Thompson. Bush is a Democrat.
DRJ (d43dcd) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:48 pmWhich Bush is a Democrat?
AD - RtR/OS! (3c862f) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:55 pmLaura (in principle if not in fact). It’s the worst kept secret in Washington.
DRJ (d43dcd) — 5/22/2010 @ 7:59 pmLaura is not a Democrat she’s a happyfeet Republican.
We are teh future!
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 8:08 pmThere are a lot of people in politics I do not trust, the ones that I do would be very small.
But there is a big difference between trusting someone to be president and wanting to have a beer with them. I would sit down with her for a beer to hear about Alaska wildlife, commercial fishing, and raising teenage girls (one of which I will have in a few years).
But, do you drink beer at all?
hf thinks making AZ national is not a good idea. He may be right, but I think it is a good idea. What people want is for elected officials to do is take a stand and do something, not find ways to triangulate everyone and everything. What is more fundamental than keeping drug runners, people smugglers, and who knows what terrorists from walking through people’s backyards at the border. Many citizens of Latin/Hispanic background went through the process and do not feel like everybody should be rewarded for not playing by the rules. I bet there are illegals (whose vote shouldn’t count) that would like to see the criminal element deported as well. If they are victimized they may be afraid to go to authorities, so they are prone to be terrorized. And anybody who is going to vote Dem because of claims of racism is going to vote for Dems anyway. You need to build on people who are knowledgable and involved, not the ones who will “pull the arrow with the D on it”.
I am undecided if it was a good idea or not, but from what I know of Palin’s decision to resign from gov. it makes sense to me.
What bothers many about Palin in the media, etc., is just how anti-politician she is. You have people like Barach Obama, John F. Kerry, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and to a lesser degree John McCain, who have been plotting a course to the presidency it seems all of their lives. Well, if you want to get places in politics as your ambition, I doubt if you start out in city council. And even as you start to move up, why would you choose Alaska of all places? And, what Dana said above. I think she is more or less how she presents herself, my opinion. I wasn’t happy, personally, with the idea of being a Fox contributor, but if that is among her biggest mistakes…
As far as supporting McCain, there is something to be said for loyalty, and perhaps McCain has woken up a little bit about the border and whether one can work together with the likes of the current Dems in office.
“Tina Fey, the gal from Upper Darby”- is she really from Upper Darby, as in Upper Darby, PA??
MD in Philly (cb8efe) — 5/22/2010 @ 8:11 pmok you busted me on the beer
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 8:12 pmThere is absolutely nothing to be said for loyalty when your little country is at death’s door whimpering in pain, ravaged by the soulless vapid craven idiocies of the likes of Meghan’s deeply useless daddy and his friends Cosmo Boy and Princess Lindsey.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 8:16 pmI guess I feel better about the McCain of 2010 than the one of 2008.
MD in Philly (cb8efe) — 5/22/2010 @ 8:19 pmYep, that’s where the mean girl is from, she missed
ian cormac (2f975b) — 5/22/2010 @ 8:20 pmthe whole part of the screenplay she wrote. Who’s
Cosmo Boy, I don’t know him,
Cosmo Boy is a homopublican senator what took Ted Kennedy’s seat.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 8:44 pmhappyfeet – In real life do you go by the name of Fred Phelps? Or are you another member of his happy gang from Westboro? Your preoccupation with the homosexuality may have outed you.
I have no love for John McCain but you are not fit to wash his dirtyI have no great love for John McCain but I can articulate the reasons for that and the disagreements I may have with his positions. I do not spend almost two years screeching insults that my seven year old niece would be ashamed to use in public. Take a break, happyfeet. When you can construct a logical argument better than a third grader come on back.
Have Blue (854a6e) — 5/22/2010 @ 11:18 pmno i do not go by the name of Fred Phelps but my people on my dad’s side is okies… they settled the Cherokee Strip, which was in want of settling at the time.
I do not know of this preoccupation of which you speak but you want you can blow me.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 11:47 pmoh. Westboro is in Kansas wikipedia says.
They have an okie feel to them I think, the Phelps ones.
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/22/2010 @ 11:49 pmI do not know of this preoccupation of which you speak but you want you can blow me.
Comment by happyfeet — 5/22/2010 @ 11:47 pm
Not only illogical, poorly reasoned and poorly argued but ungrammatical. Should have taken the advice.
Have Blue (854a6e) — 5/23/2010 @ 12:13 amTina Feh… not funny…btw… Fred Phelps is a Democrat.
GeneralMalaise (273918) — 5/23/2010 @ 7:08 amSpoken like someone who believes everything he sees on MSNBC or reads at the Huffington Post.
Oh, think that’s harsh? Fine. Why don’t you tell me the reason “she cowardly bailed” if you think you know. Then give me your sources. Deal?
I hope the reason she is not running currently is twofold: 1) While she may have felt it couldn’t be terribly difficult being Vice President (as Joe Biden himself said), and had eight years to grow into the role for 2016, I think she’s aware she’s not ready to be President. 2) She can draw an audience like no Republican in recent memory, and doesn’t want to let that influence go to waste. Tipping that she will not run in this early 2012 will diminish interest in her to some degree.
As for “fleec[ing] her fans” — add New York magazine to the previous list. Palin hasn’t made more money than any political figure in recent memory (in a recession!) because she’s charging a lot of money, she’s made more money because what she charges is what millions of people are willing to pay.
It’s called “the free market.”
L.N. Smithee (f2bdda) — 5/23/2010 @ 8:44 am“in 2012 this early”
L.N. Smithee (f2bdda) — 5/23/2010 @ 8:47 amIf she feels that running for president is the best way to get her message across, and she doesn’t see
ian cormac (2f975b) — 5/23/2010 @ 8:56 amany viable candidates that come forward, she will run
you better work
work it, girl
wet your lips and make love to the camera
happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/23/2010 @ 10:43 amDon’t chicken out, happyfeet.
L.N. Smithee (f2bdda) — 5/23/2010 @ 3:53 pm