Patterico's Pontifications

5/1/2010

Car Bomb Found in Times Square

Filed under: General,Terrorism — Patterico @ 10:10 pm

But don’t worry. The feds tell us it’s not terrorism:

The police discovered a car bomb in a smoking Nissan Pathfinder in the heart of Times Square Saturday evening, prompting the evacuation of thousands of tourists and theatergoers from the area on a warm and busy Saturday evening, the police said.

Crowds were lined up on the south side of 43rd Street as the heart of Times Square was closed off to traffic.

There was no explosion.

“It appears to be a car bomb left in a Pathfinder between Seventh and Eighth” Avenues on 45th Street, said Deputy Commissioner Paul J. Browne, the Police Department’s chief spokesman.

The device, he said, contained “explosive elements” that included “propane tanks, some kind of powder, gasoline and a timing device.”

“This is very much an active investigation,” he said.

The police would not say whether they had any suspects, and did not say if they had determined what might have been behind the event.

A federal official said it was not considered it [sic] a terrorist threat and that the New York Police Department had told the Department of Homeland Security to stand down. The official would not say why he believed that or what the New York Police Department told them about the episode.

Not a terrorist threat. Hoo-kay then.

Hot Air quotes what sounds like a Reuters story as follows:

Police officials said a witness reported a running Nissan Pathfinder with Connecticut plates, with smoke coming out of the back. A bomb squad robot popped the back latch of the Pathfinder, and officers found what they initially believed was a bomb. The vehicle was found to contain explosives, gasoline, propane and burned wires, a Fire Department officer told Reuters.

The officer, who did not give his name because he was not authorized to speak to the news media, said that a man was seen fleeing the S.U.V. and that the police evacuated the area in case there were other threats nearby.

But it’s not terrorism.

The system worked!

UPDATE: Just so it’s clear what we’re dealing with here, let me quote Allahpundit, who reminds us of a similar-sounding plot to detonate fuel-air bombs in London. There, like tonight’s bomb, propane tanks were to be used to set off a tremendous explosion:

Fuel-air bombs are hugely destructive, as this harrowing Danger Room article published after the London plot broke made all too clear. A fuel-air bomb properly detonated in Times Square on a Saturday night likely would have killed hundreds of people. If that’s what this was — and the feds evidently aren’t sure yet, despite reports of “fireworks” going on in the back seat and someone running away from the vehicle — then there’s a seriously dangerous individual running around NYC right now. Stay tuned.

I get a little sick of federal officials quickly declaring that there is no terrorism angle to an act that makes most sane people think instantly of terrorism. It’s not reassuring; on the contrary, it just seems clueless. Which is pretty damned far from reassuring.

UPDATE x2: They now finally admit it was a “potential terrorist attack.” You don’t say!

192 Comments

  1. Russian mob?

    Comment by EW1(SG) (edc268) — 5/1/2010 @ 10:16 pm

  2. Where were the Che Day parades in New York?

    Comment by daleyrocks (1d0d98) — 5/1/2010 @ 10:17 pm

  3. Goldarn crazy tea partiers…

    Comment by gazzer (7588eb) — 5/1/2010 @ 10:23 pm

  4. Probably a home grown local islamic radical from earlier reports of a similar attack on Times Square this year. The target was probably Times Square in general and a recruiting center in particular. The perpetrator is likely a new immigrant 20-30 year old middle eastern male (Pakistani probably, maybe Lebanonese).

    Anyway, lets see. Obviously this guy was off the home land security radar–probably acting fairly alone checking design of bombs on internet hot spots. He probably does not have access to an area to test the explosives, little connection to professional terrorists except through propaganda. Otherwise the device would have worked.

    Lets see. What would be the lesson? I suppose it is that we can expect more of the same in the future.

    Comment by PashaG (335566) — 5/1/2010 @ 11:00 pm

  5. it was the CIA…..

    Comment by redc1c4 (fb8750) — 5/1/2010 @ 11:01 pm

  6. Of course it’s not terrorism, Patrick. No conservative group can be tied to this.

    Comment by Some chump (9eaefb) — 5/1/2010 @ 11:10 pm

  7. If an IED-like car bomb in the middle of Times Square isn’t terrorism, what is?

    Comment by DRJ (d15e92) — 5/1/2010 @ 11:48 pm

  8. You know, DRJ, you could probably ask Bill Ayres for a long statement about how this realio trulio isn’t terrorism.

    Comment by Eric Blair (a2ecff) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:22 am

  9. A tourism knock to NYC would be seismic after what the dirty socialists did to the investors and bankers.

    Comment by happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:33 am

  10. Probably Nazis trying to jump-start the Fourth Reich. By the way, have they found a crime yet with those militia idiots?

    Comment by Kevin Murphy (5ae73e) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:43 am

  11. it was Mossad and the Juice!!!!

    Comment by Ron Paulian Basement Dweller (fb8750) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:51 am

  12. FAE’s are nasty things…. quick background here.
    the animated gif at the bottom is pretty k3wl though. China Lake does good w*rk. :-D

    Comment by redc1c4 (fb8750) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:55 am

  13. The old 10 second rule in play.
    “We do not know what caused the problem, but it was not terrorism.”
    Idiots that will get a bunch of us killed.

    Comment by Paul Albers (23002d) — 5/2/2010 @ 3:01 am

  14. This vehical was right next to the headquarters of Viacom. Viacom owns comedy central. So um…yeah.

    On the bright side there was supposed to be an antiwar protest a couple of blocks away from this today.

    Comment by trhawk (166c40) — 5/2/2010 @ 3:13 am

  15. The Obami call riot police on grandmothers, treat shoe bombers as common criminals, believe in anthropogenic global warmming, dismissed the BP oil spill as trivial, and now declare that a car bomb is not terrorism. Sure. Expect the Obami to extend and revise their remarks in say nine days.

    Comment by DavidL (e74857) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:01 am

  16. Well, since apparently these days we can’t be calling car bombs in Times Square on Saturday night “terrorism”, does anybody have any ideas on what people *are* allowed to call it? Do we need to make up a new word for this type of thing?

    Comment by elissa (46a712) — 5/2/2010 @ 5:16 am

  17. I have to wonder about this: if this was acknowledged to be an attempted terrorist attack, then the Obama Administration would be able to claim the credit for foiling a terrorist attack, thus proving what a great job they’re doing.

    Comment by The wondering Dana (474dfc) — 5/2/2010 @ 5:22 am

  18. A federal official said it was not considered it [sic] a terrorist threat and that the New York Police Department had told the Department of Homeland Security to stand down

    Remember, we must not jump to (sane) conclusions.

    “We don’t like you because you’re going to get us killed”

    The old news media said that it was up to them to decide what the news was. The govt. has taken this concept to a new level.

    Comment by MD in Philly (0f793a) — 5/2/2010 @ 5:30 am

  19. According to the WSJ report this morning it was a Times Square street vendor who alerted a passing policeman to the smoking and popping van. So we’re making some progress. At least it seems the hero was a New Yorker this time and we did not have to rely on a foreign tourist to save us as was the case with the underwear bomber.

    Comment by elissa (46a712) — 5/2/2010 @ 5:38 am

  20. well…islamic terrorists usually drive their car bombs…that martyrdom thingy.
    hmmm…who was a terrorist that left the vehicle at the bomb cite?
    oh yeah…..Tim McVeigh.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (f242f6) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:03 am

  21. what if the bomber turns out to be a Tea Party Patriot going for Obama the muslim/socialist/tyrant and rapist of liberty?
    kinda coincidental timing.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (f242f6) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:06 am

  22. since he was there, because of the nerdprom.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (f242f6) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:06 am

  23. Maybe they just hated Planet Hollywood .. 45th and Broadway .. where I ate lunch yesterday .. the hamburger was a bit dry.
    Went to NYC to see the “Billy Elliot” matinee yesterday. I was up at 51st & Broadway, finishing dinner, when this went down.

    Comment by Neo (7830e6) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:10 am

  24. So did Mohammed Salameh, the guy who wanted his deposit back from the truck he left at the WTC.
    People think this was crazy, but the focus on him
    allowed Ramzi Yousef to get away

    Comment by ian cormac (d56635) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:14 am

  25. ian, Salameh was an outlier.
    McVeigh defined the white ex-mil anti-government terrorist genre…he was a hero to the Hutaree.
    i guess we will find out.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (f242f6) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:26 am

  26. Salameh, Yousef, Murad, KSM, Zubeydah, Al Quahtani,
    Khan, Majid; Moussaoui, a lot of outliers there

    Comment by ian cormac (d56635) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:30 am

  27. @wheeler’s cat

    I guess you are trying to make some sort of clever or sarcastic point? As far as most sane people are concerned, any person who sets a car bomb in a busy area of the nation’s biggest city has one of two purposes (or both): 1. to incite fear or terror in the citizenry and 2.to kill people. That is terrorism in my book, and any destinction of its perpetrator being an Islamic terrorist, an enviro-terrorist, an anti-government terrorist, or an anarchist, etc. is merely a side issue. It’s that after only a couple hours of “investigation” the authorities have “ruled out” terrorism which many of us question.

    Comment by elissa (46a712) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:30 am

  28. He’s either slow or mendacious, for the record, whether it’s Rudolf, or McVeigh, Salameh or Khan, I want them convicted and strong up. Sadly when it’s
    Bedell, Stack or Bishop, the left makes excuses for them

    Comment by ian cormac (d56635) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:40 am

  29. Gee, does anyone think the .gov will consider checking the VIN to see who owned the vehicle? More to the point, if they do will we hear about it; only if it was owned by some old white dude at sometime, I suspect…

    Comment by emdfl (1924a9) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:43 am

  30. nishi/wheeler’s cat is just a griefer.

    Comment by daleyrocks (1d0d98) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:43 am

  31. They don’t think anyone from Connecticut is capable (too dumbed down by the liberal school system) of making a working bomb.

    Comment by Scrapiron (996c34) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:45 am

  32. Bomb by Undocumented Citizens from Mexico. They’re only here to mow your grass not kill your a**.

    Comment by Scrapiron (996c34) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:47 am

  33. Ask O’Dumbo for the location of Ayers and Dorn at 6 PM. Best friends keep track of each other.

    Comment by Scrapiron (996c34) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:51 am

  34. It didn’t have enough pomo semiotics, and denunciations of you know who, how does one keep
    track of these trolls

    Comment by ian cormac (d56635) — 5/2/2010 @ 7:00 am

  35. Reminds me of the Madrid incident when the Aznar Gov.t blamed ETA when it was Al Qaeda. The sheer rush for expediency.

    Can you imagine the fits and contortions when the guys name is Muhammed?

    It will be “maybe a Tea Partier stole Muhammed’s car and wanted to kill all those homosexuals and ethnics in New York’s theatre district.

    Comment by HeavenSent (a9126d) — 5/2/2010 @ 7:09 am

  36. These can’t be terrorists- terrorists are so frightened by Obama’s fearsome persona and harsh words about islamic terror that they have backed off planning attacks. And Janet Napolitano strikes fear into every islamist who thinks about blowing us up. These two remind me of Bill Clinton and Janet Reno only weaker.

    Comment by mhr (b84b1b) — 5/2/2010 @ 7:17 am

  37. elissa…or a Hutaree Christian Warrior perhaps?
    the spin emanating from Patterico and AllahP is that this is islamic terrorism.
    i question that….also, too….islamic-terrorist car bombs when coupled with a suicide driver have a high proven success rate.
    this failed.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (f242f6) — 5/2/2010 @ 7:20 am

  38. ima grrl, teatards.
    how many times do I have to say that?

    Comment by wheeler's cat (f242f6) — 5/2/2010 @ 7:21 am

  39. You’re a stupid @$$, lawlbag!

    Comment by People's Front of Judea (44bf37) — 5/2/2010 @ 7:42 am

  40. Now gone from the article and down the memory hole:

    A federal official said it was not considered it [sic] a terrorist threat and that the New York Police Department had told the Department of Homeland Security to stand down. The official would not say why he believed that or what the New York Police Department told them about the episode.

    And it was also another crappy anonymous source.

    Comment by Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (9eb641) — 5/2/2010 @ 7:44 am

  41. Um. Nishi, have your med worn off? And I am laughing at your learned assumption that mideast terrorists are always suicide bombers.

    Fact is, you either are a substance abuser or are under medical care, as your long history of bizarre posts amply demonstrates.

    How can we miss you and your brain-fried posts if you won’t go away? Just promise you won’t start posting your Sufi stuff again. It’s like Vogon poetry.

    Comment by Eric Blair (eef042) — 5/2/2010 @ 7:50 am

  42. Another brilliant post from the troll.

    hmmm…who was a terrorist that left the vehicle at the bomb cite?
    oh yeah…..Tim McVeigh.

    Comment by wheeler’s cat

    Meaning what ? McVeigh was arrested driving his car which did not have a license plate many miles from the scene. If he had been smart enough to check that the plate hadn’t fallen off, he might never have been caught.

    Comment by Mike K (2cf494) — 5/2/2010 @ 7:57 am

  43. Close but no cigar, Eric, it’s more like the worst
    poet, who was thankfully blown up when the hyperspace bypass went through

    Comment by ian cormac (d56635) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:05 am

  44. “also, too….islamic-terrorist car bombs when coupled with a suicide driver have a high proven success rate.
    this failed.”

    Comment by wheeler’s cat

    forgetting that one of the ’93 WTC bombers went back to the U-Haul agency where he’d rented the truck used in the attack to collect his deposit.

    she’s a grrrrrllll… heh.

    Comment by GeneralMalaise (53ce9e) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:06 am

  45. It couldn’t possibly be terrorism, Eric Holder didn’t grant a preemptive blanket immunity. Keep in mind that Islam is a religion of Peaceful Terrorism, and that the Underpants Bomber wasn’t really a terrorist at all, he was warm brother attempting to use the new air express, do it yourself, sex change kit.

    Comment by ropelight (090243) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:10 am

  46. The NYPD IS saying terrorism, but just that it is amateur terrorism.
    They recovered the VIN number.
    Isn’t al-Q pro enough to remove VINs?

    Comment by wheeler's cat (f242f6) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:14 am

  47. Nishi’s meds wore off again I see. Joy.

    Comment by Techie (43d092) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:15 am

  48. Oh…..you guys mean ISLAMIC terrorism, not terrorism.
    Why don’t you say that?

    Comment by wheeler's cat (f242f6) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:16 am

  49. Being that it happened on May DAy, and in Times Square’ i’d suggest those ‘non violent’ anarchists

    Comment by ian cormac (d56635) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:28 am

  50. I say it’s terrorism, but I live in Arizona so I must be a fascist, racist, Nazi, etc, etc, etc,.

    Comment by PatAz (9d1bb3) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:32 am

  51. Wheeler, just where does Patterico claim this was Islamic terrorism?

    Comment by Some chump (9eaefb) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:33 am

  52. So it’s not regular troll nonsense. It’s Nutty Nishi’s Natterings.

    Comment by Eric Blair (a2ecff) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:34 am

  53. Now this detail suggests Islamist, just by placement

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7667581/Times-Square-car-bomb-was-act-of-terrorism.html

    Comment by ian cormac (d56635) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:45 am

  54. @wheeler’s

    It is a practice of mine not to reply to personal ad hominum attacks. However, after reading three or four more of your musings one is forced to wonder what the hell kind of human being is more focused on the type of terrorism it couldn’t possibly have been, than on the fact that hundreds if not thousands of innocent people in Times Square might have died yesterday. That’s just sick.

    Oh, and this is a rhetorical question. You need not respond.

    Comment by elissa (46a712) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:49 am

  55. “Police in New York are investigating whether a car bomb in Times Square was targeted on the makers of South Park over a controversial depiction of the Prophet Muhammad.”
    …….

    Detectives are also understood to be investigating striking similarities between the New York bomb and two car bombs planted by Islamic terrorists outside the Tiger Tiger nightclub in London in 2007.

    “In both cases, the devices comprised cylinders of propane gas and cans full of petrol intended to be ignited by electronic detonators”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7668606/Times-Square-car-bomb-police-investigate-South-Park-link.html

    Comment by Mike (e71888) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:49 am

  56. It’s not terrorism-terrorism.

    Comment by daleyrocks (1d0d98) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:53 am

  57. nishi – Are you wearing your burkha?

    Comment by daleyrocks (1d0d98) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:54 am

  58. ima grrl, teatards.
    how many times do I have to say that
    ?

    Then what are those things dangling betwixt your legs?

    Comment by Dmac (21311c) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:03 am

  59. Quite obviously the definition of “terrorism” has changed. I’m sure the administration will be informing us of said change just as soon as they decide what it is.

    Comment by Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:05 am

  60. Then what are those things dangling betwixt your legs?

    Loose meat curtains.

    Comment by People's Front of Judea (44bf37) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:09 am

  61. Elissa, welcome to the toxic trollish world of Nishi. Fortunately, the psychiatrists only let her out from time to time.

    Comment by Eric Blair (fecec9) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:24 am

  62. Isn’t al-Q pro enough to remove VINs?

    Comment by wheeler’s cat

    That’s how they caught the ’93 WTC bombers but you wouldn’t know that because you don’t know anything.

    Can’t we rustle up a better class of trolls ?

    Comment by Mike K (2cf494) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:24 am

  63. 56.It’s not terrorism-terrorism.

    Comment by daleyrocks — 5/2/2010

    aha!!! now it makes sense!!

    Comment by MD in Philly (0f793a) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:25 am

  64. A top Pakistani Taliban commander took credit for yesterday’s failed car bomb attack in New York City.

    Qari Hussain Mehsud, the top bomb maker for the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan, said he takes “fully responsibility for the recent attack in the USA.” Qari Hussain made the claim on an audiotape accompanied by images that was released on a YouTube website that calls itself the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan News Channel.

    The tape has yet to be verified, but US intelligence officials contacted by The Long War Journal believe it is legitimate. The Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan News Channel on YouTube was created on April 30. Officials believe it was created to announce the Times Square attack, and Qari Hussain’s statement was pre-recorded.

    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2010/05/pakistani_taliban_cl.php

    Comment by daleyrocks (1d0d98) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:35 am

  65. 20.well…islamic terrorists usually drive their car bombs…that martyrdom thingy.
    hmmm…who was a terrorist that left the vehicle at the bomb cite?
    oh yeah…
    :

    1. ’93 WTC Bombers
    2. Bali nightclub bombers.
    3. Spanish commuter train bombers.
    4. Anti-Syrian/Hezbollah Lebanese politician (Eido, Harriri) assassins.

    …and so on and so forth.

    Comment by furious (71af32) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:39 am

  66. Qari Hussain Mehsud, the top bomb maker for the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan, said he takes “fully responsibility for the recent attack flubbed attempt in the USA.”

    Apparently he doesn’t worry about his professional reputation. May he continue to be the “top bomb maker”, if this is as effective as he gets, thank goodness.

    Comment by MD in Philly (0f793a) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:42 am

  67. It seems Janet Napolitano’s refrain of “The System worked” when in fact the “terrorist” just f**ked up has become administration policy.

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:44 am

  68. Janet Napolitano made this comment this morning. It’s more than I should she would say.

    “We’re taking this very seriously,” Napolitano said, noting that the New York police, FBI and federal Joint Terrorism Task Force were involved in the investigation. “We’re treating it as if it could be a potential terrorist attack.”

    Comment by Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:52 am

  69. MD in Philly – An Irish bomb maker used to use young men to deliver and plant his bombs. The bombs in question were fairly sophisticated and had a safety pin to prevent premature detonations. The problem was that the young guys, nervous about being caught or accidentally blown up, would forget to take out the pins which prevented the bomb from going off. So he started putting a tag on the pin to remind them to take it out. In addition he put his address on it so that they could drop it in the post so he would know they had pulled it out.
    The inevitable happened when another bomb setter neglected to pull the pin and the police showed up outside his door the next morning.

    Comment by Have Blue (854a6e) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:55 am

  70. Did “terrorism” get some new definition when I wasn’t paying attention? What’s the point of creating a powerful incendiary bomb and driving it into times square to explode it, if not to terrorize?

    Comment by SarahW (af7312) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:55 am

  71. Nishi (Wheeler’s cat) No, AQ is not known for removing Vins, they might disguise, but they don’t particularly care about Vins.

    Comment by SarahW (af7312) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:58 am

  72. #67 SPQR:

    It seems Janet Napolitano’s refrain of “The System worked” when in fact the “terrorist” just f**ked up has become administration policy.

    We have been extremely fortunate so far that the terrorists have complied with the policy by conducting themselves in a fashion that is dummerer than a sack of Andrews.

    Comment by EW1(SG) (edc268) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:58 am

  73. SarahW, a BBQ?

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:59 am

  74. _________________________________

    A top Pakistani Taliban commander took credit for yesterday’s failed car bomb attack in New York City.

    If correct, another example of the age of cyberspace allowing alternative sources to jump the traditional media, or sites like drudgereport.com, in disseminating information.

    A federal official said it was not considered it [sic] a terrorist threat

    Uh-huh, and US military doctor Nidal Malik Hasan murdered 13 people at Fort Hood because of work-related stress. Or was it due to his being bullied as a child? Or maybe the effects of an absentee father, abusive mother? Or was it due to American imperialism/racism/capitalism? Perhaps due to Israel being mean and heartless?

    Actually, if PC idiocy is alive and well in the ranks of the US army, no less, it’s surprising the federal government in general doesn’t proclaim situations like the one in Times Square on Saturday as a “case of peaceful protest!”

    In that regard, a lot of us have become “useful idiots”—-with the top political office in America (located at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave) being occupied by the most useful idiot of them all.

    Comment by Mark (411533) — 5/2/2010 @ 10:05 am

  75. You’re doing a heck of a job, Napolitanie!

    Comment by GeneralMalaise (53ce9e) — 5/2/2010 @ 10:06 am

  76. At least Paterson recognizes the attempt as terrorism of some form.

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 5/2/2010 @ 10:28 am

  77. OK, this is personal now. I just found out my White Sox were caught up in the car bomb hubub. The team was staying in a Times Square hotel last night and players were running all around that area having dinner, attending a boxing match, etc., after beating the Yankees in an afternoon game. Attention terrorists of the world: They may be a little sucky so far this season, but do not mess with my baseball team!!

    Comment by elissa (46a712) — 5/2/2010 @ 10:43 am

  78. Clinton saw repeated attacks like this, and kept focusing on the security concerns that triangulated to his political advantage. He was more worried about the Branch Davidians and Rush Limbaugh than whoever tried to blow up the WTC in 1993.

    Obama can’t be accused of ignoring terrorism when he’s constantly blowing up the bad guys with his drones, thank goodness, and this ‘it’s not terrorism’ lie has been ongoing since 9/12/2001. But it’s instructive to see how our administration is again leaning towards hysterical fear of old ladies and veterans instead of admitting we’re in a war on terror.

    Comment by Dustin (b54cdc) — 5/2/2010 @ 10:46 am

  79. If this terrorist had been a suicide bomber, hundreds of New Yorkers would be dead.

    Comment by Dustin (b54cdc) — 5/2/2010 @ 10:47 am

  80. elissa – At least it wasn’t the Cubs. Heh.

    Comment by daleyrocks (1d0d98) — 5/2/2010 @ 10:48 am

  81. Comment by Have Blue

    Thanks for the story. Even the best laid plans of criminals on occasion go astray, to the benefit of the rest of us.

    Comment by MD in Philly (0f793a) — 5/2/2010 @ 10:54 am

  82. daley, cue the freaky music—-As you may recall, the Sox were in New York City to play the Yankees on the day the twin towers fell too.

    Comment by elissa (46a712) — 5/2/2010 @ 11:05 am

  83. Not the Black Sox for nuthin’.

    Comment by HeavenSent (a9126d) — 5/2/2010 @ 11:34 am

  84. We need to focus less on baseball and more about how this is Obama’s fault, Elissa.

    Comment by Intelliology (00d844) — 5/2/2010 @ 11:55 am

  85. Actually, Intelliology, you need to focus on less trolling. It makes you look desperate.

    Comment by Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 5/2/2010 @ 11:56 am

  86. Actually I was doing you a favor “doctor”. Elissa wasn’t focused on the main point. I’ll bet somewhere darth cheney is secretly disappointed that people were not injured/killed in this situation.

    Comment by Intelliology (00d844) — 5/2/2010 @ 11:59 am

  87. Well. Trolls will be trolls. The semester has been tough on you, huh?

    Why not go away for a while? Honestly, you are just trolling. Yet again.

    Comment by Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:02 pm

  88. Also, you could always work on your grammar and punctuation. Either that or you have been drinking or baking a bit early.

    Comment by Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:04 pm

  89. I just heard something about a bomb being found in Pittsburgh… anybody know about this? is this a fact or just some hype?

    Comment by pam (47a9e3) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:07 pm

  90. Intelliology – It could have been some of your eco-terrorist friends.

    Comment by daleyrocks (1d0d98) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:07 pm

  91. pam, Drudge is running it. False alarm.

    PITTSBURGH — Police say a suspected device near the finish line of the Pittsburgh Marathon prompted them to halt the race briefly while it was rendered harmless.

    Police say the device was found in a small microwave oven on the sidewalk after the leaders had finished the course Sunday morning. Police Lt. Kevin Kraus says several blocks were cordoned off near the original finish line for the marathon and half-marathon and police tried to reroute the race but eventually ended up delaying it for 10 to 12 minutes.

    The bomb squad used a robot to disable the device, which Kraus says investigators now believe was not an actual explosive.

    Comment by Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:10 pm

  92. My environmentally conscious friends do not blow things up. Are you saying it is better to not give a d*mn about the environment, daleyrocks? That is awfully profound of you.

    Comment by Intelliology (00d844) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:10 pm

  93. Anything you care to post that isn’t snark or trolling, Intelliology? I actually hope you are some 20 year old trustafarian. If you are a grown person doing this, wow, but your life is empty.

    But even if you are young, there are people who are not precisely conservative who post thoughtfully and often in opposition to the thoughts around here. And they earn respect because of their non-trollish style.

    Leviticus comes to mind as someone in your age group (I suspect). He and I disagree on many things, but he is no troll.

    He even defends people like you. Which is more than you have shown evidence of doing for others.

    Comment by Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:21 pm

  94. “My environmentally conscious friends do not blow things up.”

    Based on your comments, I questions whether you have any friends, let alone any that are conscious.

    Comment by daleyrocks (1d0d98) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:26 pm

  95. “I’ll bet somewhere darth cheney is secretly disappointed that people were not injured/killed in this situation.”

    Pathetic.

    Comment by GeneralMalaise (53ce9e) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:29 pm

  96. What happened to “human caused disaster”, BTW? Was there a point where the weasels abandoned it and started saying “terrorism” again?

    Comment by nk (db4a41) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:34 pm

  97. ima grrl, teatards

    That’s not quite the four-letter noun I would use in describing you.

    Comment by AD - RtR/OS! (45c403) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:37 pm

  98. I find it rather amusing, “doctor”, that you rip me for spending time on this site, when I suspect that you spend many many more hours, days, and years of your life preaching to the choir here.

    Comment by Intelliology (00d844) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:39 pm

  99. There’s no choir here, asshole. This is the best comment site on the internet and all civilly-said opinions are allowed and, I believe from Patterico’s point of view, welcomed. But if you want to play with the big kids, talk like a big kid and not some “Cheney is a poopoohead” five-year old.

    Comment by nk (db4a41) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:44 pm

  100. Viacom have their NY offices in Times Square area and broadcast facilities up on West 57th St. And the vehicle was left by a BOA branch. Plenty of evidence; lots of leads. The NYPD is the best.

    Comment by DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:44 pm

  101. Times Square attempted bombing traced to RW elements in AZ Legislature…

    Well, that’s not quite accurate, in fact it’s total BS; but I’m sure that is what nishi and negative-intell would like the facts to be.

    Comment by AD - RtR/OS! (45c403) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:45 pm

  102. It is a shame that New Yorkers, who have already been through so much, have to depend on incompetents like Napolitano to protect them from terrorists.

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:45 pm

  103. But even if you are young

    Actually, it therefore would fit his modus operandi, what makes him really tick. And his comment about Dick Cheney truly becomes an example of what’s known as projection.

    arthurbrooks.net:

    The political stereotypes break down even further when we consider age: Anyone who is not a socialist before age thirty has no heart, but anyone who is still a socialist after thirty has no head, goes the old saying.

    And so we imagine crusty right-wing grandfathers socking their money away in trust funds while their liberal grandchildren work in soup kitchens and save the whales. But young liberals, perhaps the most vocally dissatisfied political constituency in America today, are one of the least generous demographic groups out there.

    In 2004, self-described liberals younger than thirty belonged to one-third fewer organizations in their communities than young conservatives. In 2002, they were 12 percent less likely to give money to charities, and one-third less likely to give blood. Liberal young Americans in 2004 were also significantly less likely than the young conservatives to express a willingness to sacrifice for their loved ones: A lower percentage said they would prefer to suffer than let a loved one suffer, that they are not happy unless the loved one is happy, or that they would sacrifice their own wishes for those they love.

    Comment by Mark (411533) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:45 pm

  104. And if Cheney had set that bomb, he would have known enough to include an oxygen cylinder with the fuel. ;)

    Comment by nk (db4a41) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:46 pm

  105. Do they still stamp the VIN in the frame and engine block?

    Comment by nk (db4a41) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:48 pm

  106. cheneyhalliburtonlibbyricerumsfeldbush

    Comment by Intooliology (53ce9e) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:53 pm

  107. It takes a special kind of bile-filled troll to insert into this thread for no reason the claim that Dick Cheney is unhappy that no one was killed or injured.

    That’s the kind of dishonest, vile slander we’ve come to expect.

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:54 pm

  108. I used to know something about carburetion, and it sounds to me like this guy did not pay enough attention in auto shop. I think he “flooded” his bomb by not allowing enough oxygen to mix with the propane.

    Comment by nk (db4a41) — 5/2/2010 @ 12:57 pm

  109. just another hopey changeling, SPQR.

    Comment by Intooliology (53ce9e) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:00 pm

  110. Is it more bile-filled to point out Dick Cheney’s sentiments or to actually have those sentiments (like Dick Cheney)?

    Thought so…

    Comment by Intelliology (00d844) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:00 pm

  111. There was, I think, one critical fraction of a second, when the police broke into the vehicle, that the bomb could have gotten the correct measure of air before the fuel/air ratio changed the other way. Thankfully, no igniter was capable at that moment.

    Comment by nk (db4a41) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:04 pm

  112. “He even defends people like you.”

    - Eric Blair

    Hopefully, that’s a habit I can start to break – I’ve yet to see Intelliology contribute one productive comment to any thread on this site. I don’t even know why he comes here.

    Comment by Leviticus (30ac20) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:06 pm

  113. the taliban also tried to take credit for the asian dude that killed those women in the healthclub, and a bomb in barcelona set by spanish separtists.
    they are opportunists.

    i do definitely get a strong wiff of Patterico and his commentariat hoping real hard that the perp isn’t a Tea Party Patriot.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (f242f6) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:09 pm

  114. I would treat Intelliology as spam, but it’s not my site.

    Comment by nk (db4a41) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:10 pm

  115. wheeler’s cat, the only wiff you get is from your unwashed crotch. It appears at the moment that the taliban video was made prior to the discovery of the vehicle. Which you’d know if you bothered to read the link daleyrocks supplied.

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:11 pm

  116. Comment by nk — 5/2/2010 @ 12:48 pm

    As I recall, VIN’s are found in at least five locations on current vehicles, one of which is not publicized.

    Comment by AD - RtR/OS! (45c403) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:14 pm

  117. SPQR im lissening to the joint NYPD/FBI presser.
    they said there is NO linkage to the taliban.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (f242f6) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:14 pm

  118. “…I don’t even know why he comes here.
    Comment by Leviticus — 5/2/2010 @ 1:06 pm

    Why does a fly go anywhere?

    Comment by AD - RtR/OS! (45c403) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:15 pm

  119. 5/1 was an inside job!

    False flag!

    (just getting out ahead of the curve)

    Comment by East Coast Chris (ded5f2) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:24 pm

  120. “I don’t even know why he comes here.”

    He comes because – in his words – it’s a “sh*t show”. OCD.

    Comment by GeneralMalaise (53ce9e) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:29 pm

  121. I’m almost certain it was completely unintentional, but an earlier commenter kinda sorta paraphrased and misrepresented a statement made at the presser.

    What Commissioner Kelly said was that currently “no evidence” supports the Taliban claim of responsibilty, but he did not rule out either domestic or international motives.

    Comment by elissa (46a712) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:40 pm

  122. A 9-1-1 caller says the aborted attempt was the prelude to a massive explosion…

    [link fixed. --Stashiu]

    Comment by GeneralMalaise (53ce9e) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:44 pm

  123. ______________________________________

    i do definitely get a strong wiff of Patterico and his commentariat hoping real hard that the perp isn’t a Tea Party Patriot.

    Your assumption may — MAY — have been a tiny bit plausible regarding the guy who a few months ago crashed a plane into an IRS office in Austin, Texas. But as is true of so many things that pertain to derangement and irony, the part of the brain that is connected to leftism — and the guy below apparently had a soft spot for ultra-leftism, that being Communism — can easily breed the opposite of the stereotype that many people in general fall for.

    From the manifesto of Joseph Andrew Stack—aka the guy who crashed a plane into the side of a government building in Texas:

    We are all taught as children that without laws there would be no society, only anarchy. Sadly, starting at early ages we in this country have been brainwashed to believe that, in return for our dedication and service, our government stands for justice for all.

    [T]he joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problem”. It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in.

    …In particular, zeroed in on a section relating to the wonderful “exemptions” that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church so incredibly wealthy….The intent of this exercise and our efforts was to bring about a much-needed re-evaluation of the laws that allow the monsters of organized religion to make such a mockery of people who earn an honest living.

    However, this is where I learned that there are two “interpretations” for every law; one for the very rich, and one for the rest of us

    …I decided that I didn’t trust big business to take care of me, and that I would take responsibility for my own future and myself.

    …The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government.

    It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after.

    The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

    The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.


    ______________________________________

    Comment by Mark (411533) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:45 pm

  124. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/05/02/local_nyc_channel_reports_failed_bomb_at_times_square_was_a_diversion_for_massive_explosion.html

    Comment by GeneralMalaise (53ce9e) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:46 pm

  125. Moonbattery requires that they at least try to place the blame for something like this on the Tea Party folks.

    It’s just the way they roll.

    Comment by GeneralMalaise (53ce9e) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:50 pm

  126. i do definitely get a strong wiff of Patterico ….

    I’ll ask it again since you ignored it the first time, Wheeler:

    Just where did Patterico say this was Islamic terrorism?

    Comment by Some chump (be85ea) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:52 pm

  127. Comment by GeneralMalaise — 5/2/2010 @ 1:29 pm

    Remember:
    All flies do are eat, $hit, and bother people!

    Comment by AD - RtR/OS! (45c403) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:53 pm

  128. I don’t even know why he comes here.

    For the same reason why Muron comes here – they’ve got no where else to go in their lives.

    Comment by Dmac (21311c) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:57 pm

  129. Comment by SPQR — 5/2/2010 @ 12:45 pm

    That’s what they deserve for voting for Obama, says SPQR’s not-so-sub conscious.

    Comment by Intelliology (00d844) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:58 pm

  130. Wow. That “doctor” thing continues from Intelliology. Anyone care to wager that someone trollish just got a bad grade and is working it out psychologically?

    The point is, this fellow just posts to cause trouble. I think it is a combination of juvenile angst (regardless of his or her chronological age) and worry about the loss of his or her hopenchange.

    Comment by Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 5/2/2010 @ 1:59 pm

  131. That’s what they deserve for voting for Obama, says SPQR’s not-so-sub conscious.
    Comment by Intelliology — 5/2/2010 @ 1:58 pm

    And with that your future comments can go in moderation until someone decides they’re worth releasing or should just be deleted. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

    Comment by Stashiu3 (44da70) — 5/2/2010 @ 2:05 pm

  132. Am I the only one bothered by the appearances of O-Administration figures on today’s talking-head shows that seem to indicate that Napolitano is the most stand-tall figure in that coterie of incompetence, and she’s a disaster?

    Comment by AD - RtR/OS! (45c403) — 5/2/2010 @ 2:06 pm

  133. Stashiu3, I hereby award you the Internet Pooper Scooper, for dealing with this kind of thing.

    Some folks who post are clearly a little bit unusual.

    Others just post to be jerks.

    Regardless, thank you again. I will pour a brandy in your honor, tonight.

    Comment by Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 5/2/2010 @ 2:09 pm

  134. Adm.Allen excepted, of course.
    Here’s a guy who actually knows what he’s talking about (or, if he doesn’t, he isn’t talking),
    and has a demonstrated history of accomplishment, including exemplary work, with General Honore, at NOLA.

    Comment by AD - RtR/OS! (45c403) — 5/2/2010 @ 2:10 pm

  135. Comment by AD – RtR/OS!

    Thank you. It’s reassuring to know there are some competent people out there.

    Comment by MD in Philly (82b937) — 5/2/2010 @ 3:15 pm

  136. Stashiu3, frankly his earlier slanders were more offensive than the hypocrisy of putting words in my sub-conscious’ “mouth”. But thanks for wiping the snot off.

    wheeler’s cat, you really are not very clear on the topic, are you?

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 5/2/2010 @ 3:24 pm

  137. Re: post #132… no, AD… you’re not alone.

    She’s just one of many buffoon buffers, put in place to take the heat and deflect criticism.

    Comment by GeneralMalaise (53ce9e) — 5/2/2010 @ 3:25 pm

  138. I am so hoping this event will cause AG Holder to see how utterly outrageous his plan is to try KSM in the city and send it back to GITMO (or some other military base).

    I don’t understand how this could not underscore the absurdity of his plan.

    Comment by Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/2/2010 @ 3:37 pm

  139. SPQR,

    Granted, but the last one was the straw that broke the camel’s back, so to speak. I don’t think it will change his behavior though. At least the thread-jacking will be avoided.

    Comment by Stashiu3 (44da70) — 5/2/2010 @ 3:46 pm

  140. I think its funnie….you guyz are hoping he’s tali or al-Q….the leftside blogs are hoping he’s a Tea Party Patriot.
    This isn’t like Dr. Majot Hassan tho….the correct analogy to Hassan is the jordanian double agent who blew up 6 or 7 CIA agents.
    Both Hassan and the double agent were driven insane by the horrific District 9-style-apartheid of the Palestinians and the endless muslim slaughter in the Graveyard of Empires and Iraq.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (fe6068) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:03 pm

  141. wheeler’s cat, you have claimed that Patterico said this was Islamic terrorism. I have asked you twice to provide proof of your claim. You have ignored my requests.

    I don’t think you should be making claims you can’t back up.

    Comment by Some chump (be85ea) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:07 pm

  142. wheeler’s cat,

    I think the majority of people here care first and foremost about catching the person(s) responsible rather than the group they are affiliated with (if any).

    Your assumption about Major Hassan neatly attempts to remove his culpability and free-will decision to commit murder. Part of being an adult is accepting responsibility for one’s actions and not seeking to lay blame elsewhere.

    Comment by Dana (1e5ad4) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:12 pm

  143. this seems more plausible……..except….

    i dont think Zachary Adam Presser looks much like the 40 year old white man described by witnesses.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (fe6068) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:19 pm

  144. But, being a Palestinian, or one of their supporters, means that you operated in a responsibility-free environment –
    It’s a perpetual childhood!

    Comment by AD - RtR/OS! (45c403) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:19 pm

  145. Zachary Adam Chesser, pardon.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (fe6068) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:21 pm

  146. The Washington Post and the NYT’s are reporting a South Park link to the attacks or speculating on it

    Comment by EricPWJohnson (09473b) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:34 pm

  147. Keep it up, Nishi. Get more insulting so that you can join the other trolls.

    Mind you, there is nothing wrong with dissent. But you are a troll who is clearly toasted on pharmaceuticals. You post to be a jerk. Nothing more.

    Just like the other ones who got ejected.

    Comment by Eric Blair (a2ecff) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:34 pm

  148. Unbelievable moonbatrollery!

    Comment by GeneralMalaise (53ce9e) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:36 pm

  149. The idea that I’m “hoping” that this was a Taliban bomb plot is just a flat-out lie. What I’m “hoping” is that it is a confused mess caused by someone having their car breakdown in New York while heading home with propane tanks for a BBQ.

    However, unlike our trolls, I don’t confuse wishes for reality.

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:36 pm

  150. “Both Hassan and the double agent were driven insane by the horrific District 9-style-apartheid of the Palestinians and the endless muslim slaughter in the Graveyard of Empires and Iraq.”

    nishi – WTF are you talking about?

    Comment by daleyrocks (1d0d98) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:42 pm

  151. Daley. You know that the Prawns are following nishi around. She needs to wrap her head in aluminum foil to block their mind control rays.

    Comment by Eric Blair (a2ecff) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:47 pm

  152. “…were driven insane by the horrific District 9-style-apartheid of the Palestinians and the endless muslim slaughter in the Graveyard of Empires and Iraq.”

    CGI apartheid?… who knew?

    Certainly a heroic post, though.

    Comment by GeneralMalaise (53ce9e) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:49 pm

  153. nishi – Are muslims pro-choice?

    Comment by daleyrocks (1d0d98) — 5/2/2010 @ 4:51 pm

  154. the endless muslim slaughter in the Graveyard of Empires and Iraq…

    …aptly, though unintentionally, phrased, as the vast bulk of the slaughter is perpetrated by muslims on their co-religionists. Most dangerous place in Iraq is a Shi’ite religious procession, and in Afghanistan a girls’ school.

    As for “District 9-style apartheid“, I don’t recall the “Prawns” strapping semtex vests to their larvae and sending them into human markets/ restaurants to detonate

    Comment by furious (71af32) — 5/2/2010 @ 5:11 pm

  155. The video shows a white man. Probably a Palin-votin’, Beck-listenin’, tea-drinkin’ patriot.

    Comment by Jack (8ab4b8) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:36 pm

  156. Jack, “probably” denotes a conclusion based on statistical likelihood. Your conclusion is pulled from your ass.

    Not the same.

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:44 pm

  157. FoxNews….
    “New York Lawmakers Call for Security Funds After Failed Times Square Attack”

    I suppose it would be too much to ask for NY to actually take responsibility for protecting themselves?
    You know, in the manner that they disparage Arizonians for.
    Just more children that need “Daddy/Mommy” to protect them.

    Comment by AD - RtR/OS! (45c403) — 5/2/2010 @ 6:47 pm

  158. This thread has attracted a tsunami of stupidity from Idiotology, and nishit the genocidal eugenecist.

    Comment by JD (c1a2b8) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:09 pm

  159. Dr. Major Hasssan enlisted in 1988.
    After 9/11 he began submitting CO requests which were repeatedly denied.
    He did not want to kill fellow muslims…that is against the Qu’ran.
    He treated PTSD in returning soldiers.
    Allah only knows what he heard.
    He broke both his oaths– his oath to his country and his oath to medicine.
    He snapped.

    al-Balawi, according to his wife, became radicalized after volunteering in a palestinian refugee camp.
    He killed 7 CIA operatives and his handler.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (fe6068) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:14 pm

  160. There is a shortage of meds in nishit the genocidal eugenecist’s area. Is there a doctor or a pharmacist or a mental health professional that can help it out?

    [note: released from moderation. --Stashiu]

    Comment by JD (c1a2b8) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:29 pm

  161. He communicated with Anwar Aulaqi, who seems to have offered the same advice to the 9/11 hijackers, the Ft Dix plotters, the Toronto decapitators, the
    London TransAtlantic bombing plot, you know all out liers, in your view

    Comment by ian cormac (d56635) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:30 pm

  162. Palestinians. Your better Palestinians expatriated already, really.

    It’s a problem.

    Comment by happyfeet (c8caab) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:30 pm

  163. nishi – Why don’t you just blame the Jooooos and the Christianists and be done with it? You know that you want to.

    Comment by daleyrocks (1d0d98) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:48 pm

  164. wheeler’s car said:

    ima grrl, teatards.
    how many times do I have to say that?

    My name’s not Ken. Sometimes you have to roll with the punches.

    But, more to the point, the act of planting a bomb in Times Square is not really the kind of action a reasonable person would try to score political points on.

    But if you hate people who disagree with you that much, knock yourself out.

    Comment by Ag80 (f67beb) — 5/2/2010 @ 8:48 pm

  165. Nishi – If Hassan did not desire to serve after 9-11 all he had to do was resign his commission.

    As for Palestinians, I am unaware of any refugee camps any where in Israel. In fact Israel is the only place in the Middle East that a Palestinian would be guaranteed (for instance) a fair trial for crimes he is accused of rather than being dragged in to a public square and being murdered and dismembered by terrorist goons.

    Comment by Have Blue (854a6e) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:40 pm

  166. nk (back at 1257) – From what I have read the fireworks were apparantly supposed to split open the propane cylinders and/or they were supposed to burst once the rest of the fire got going. Nothing I have seen or read indicates that any propane was released in the blast. Experts say that there is almost no chance that an M88 strapped to the outside of a twenty pound propane cylinder would breach it.

    Comment by Have Blue (854a6e) — 5/2/2010 @ 9:53 pm

  167. It does sound like an amateur more and more.

    Comment by nk (db4a41) — 5/3/2010 @ 5:17 am

  168. If Hassan did not desire to serve after 9-11 all he had to do was resign his commission.

    He couldn’t.
    The mil paid for his medical school.
    All he wanted was a stateside assignment so he didn’t have to kill fellow muslims.
    Freedom of religion, dude.

    [note: fished from spam filter. --Stashiu]

    Comment by wheeler's cat (fe6068) — 5/3/2010 @ 6:43 am

  169. daleyrocks, you keep trying to convict me of anti-semitism.
    I don’t hate “jooos”.
    You keep trying to fuse your conservative christian agenda with some fantasy supportive jewish cohort.
    The jews don’t like you.
    Just like blacks, they are intelligently suspicious of your overtures.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (fe6068) — 5/3/2010 @ 6:47 am

  170. Stashiu – #168 is just a warm-up to the abject dishonesty and unplugged idiocy that will flow from this genocidal eugenecist griefer.

    Comment by JD (d55760) — 5/3/2010 @ 6:58 am

  171. Wheeler’s cat, you are a liar. No one here takes you seriously.

    Comment by Some chump (a88a58) — 5/3/2010 @ 7:02 am

  172. There is some speculation that this was in retaliation for the South Park controversy. It seems to me that this makes it more important, not less, to stand up agaisnt this. if you are interested in joining the everyone draw mohammed movement, go here:

    http://everyonedrawmohammed.blogspot.com/

    Comment by A.W. (e7d72e) — 5/3/2010 @ 7:13 am

  173. No, don’t draw Mohammed. Draw Osama bin Laden in Hell for all eternity after the Devil takes him on Judgment Day. Maybe falling for a thousand feet while on fire, over and over again, forever?

    Comment by nk (db4a41) — 5/3/2010 @ 7:19 am

  174. btw, JD i will putting up our collaborative masterpiece sometime tonight, i figure.

    Comment by A.W. (e7d72e) — 5/3/2010 @ 7:30 am

  175. Have Blue, Hassan couldn’t resign, the Army paid for his med school.
    Anyways he just wanted a stateside assignment so wouldn’t have to kill fellow muslims.
    Its against our religion.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (fe6068) — 5/3/2010 @ 8:41 am

  176. nk, why don’t we draw Bush in hell?
    He killed 5000 US soldiers and 200,000 iraqis in the Grand Misadventure of the Manifest-Destiny of Judeo-xian democracy in Iraq……
    that is 2000 more Americans than died in 9/11.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (fe6068) — 5/3/2010 @ 8:43 am

  177. Then how do you explain the actions of the insurgents in Iraq, and Muslim on Muslim violence throughout the Middle East? Never mind, you are just pulling things out of your rectum again.

    Comment by JD (5e5cad) — 5/3/2010 @ 8:44 am

  178. Grand Misadventure of the Manifest-Destiny of Judeo-xian democracy in Iraq……

    This is yet another one of nishi the monster’s set of memes that gets continually repeated. When asked for justification of the overt lie, it will go batsh*t krazy about how everyone hates Xians and how the Tea Party is just the white evangelical xianists who are nothing more than racists who will be demographically obsolete in a few years.

    Comment by JD (5e5cad) — 5/3/2010 @ 8:49 am

  179. may i direct you to Yglesias for some interesting comments?
    this is my favorite.

    White guy in his forties, has a truck with a gun locker, too stupid to know how to make a bomb.
    The only thing missing is a tri-corner hat, a misspelled sign and a Glen Beck book.

    JD I have told you….muslims that kill muslims are hirgabi according to the Prophet.

    Comment by wheeler's cat (fe6068) — 5/3/2010 @ 9:10 am

  180. JD I have ‘splained this before.
    Muslims that kill other muslims can’t be muslims anymore.
    They become hirgabi.
    The hirgabi cherrypick shit out of the Qu’ran to pretend they are still muslims, just like christians cherrypicked shit out of the bible to hold slaves, oppress the poor, and handle snakes.

    [note: released from moderation. --Stashiu]

    Comment by wheeler's cat (fe6068) — 5/3/2010 @ 9:22 am

  181. Then there a lot of hirgabi about nishi. The vast majority of Iraqi casulties were murdered by fellow muslims, and the death rate is lower than under Saddam’s benevolent rule.

    Comment by Have Blue (854a6e) — 5/3/2010 @ 9:51 am

  182. Hey, I have a great idea. Let’s raise some money to send nishi to Riyadh. I would love to see her discuss her ideas about defining Islam with a few imam.

    Nah. I would hate to see her stoned.

    I mean, other than her self-medication, which is entirely her own business.

    Comment by Eric Blair (2708f4) — 5/3/2010 @ 10:07 am

  183. Hey nishi – What does islam say about muslims who murder, uh, you know, er, just PEOPLE? Or are you maintaining that islam only teaches that killing muslims is bad? Or is it just worse?

    Comment by Have Blue (854a6e) — 5/3/2010 @ 10:12 am

  184. The killing of “infidels” is not proscribed, but is expected.
    I think we should reciprocate.

    Comment by AD - RtR/OS! (ad3aba) — 5/3/2010 @ 10:47 am

  185. What a load of horse manure wheeler’s cat gives us.
    I’ve always found the claim that muslims can’t kill other muslims to be astonishingly bizarre, ahistorical and hypocritical. But regardless just why is wheelers cat so invested in this not being islamic related?

    Comment by SPQR (26be8b) — 5/3/2010 @ 3:53 pm

  186. (#159 wheeler’s cat)
    Dr. Major Hasssan enlisted in 1988.
    After 9/11 he began submitting CO requests which were repeatedly denied.

    As did many others.

    He did not want to kill fellow muslims…that is against the Qu’ran.

    But his fellow soldiers…now that’s the ticket. Odd profession he volunteered for: The US Army. Guess his oath that he took in the name of God is worthless. Must be okay with the Qu’ran.

    He treated PTSD in returning soldiers.

    But decided to murder them instead.

    (Many men and women do their jobs under far worse circumstances, including treat PTSD — without the need to betray their country and oath, and without the need to commit mass murder.)

    Allah only knows what he heard.

    Instead of the “the devil made me do it”, we now have “Allah made me do it”…blame Allah.

    He broke both his oaths– his oath to his country and his oath to medicine.

    You forgot his Oath to God:

    “I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

    He snapped.

    As sometimes happens, but usually, they went through combat, not imagined it or went crazy because of talking with those who did. On those occasions when they did snap, far more often than not, they did it without betraying their country and murdering their fellow soldiers.

    al-Balawi, according to his wife, became radicalized after volunteering in a palestinian refugee camp.

    How’s that working out for him? Guess the Palestinian people are better off because of his actions…’cuz you know, mass murder always make things better.

    He killed 7 CIA operatives and his handler.

    You sound quite proud of him.

    Comment by Pons Asinorum (770c6d) — 5/3/2010 @ 6:11 pm

  187. Pons, he chose the Army since they were the only ones foolish enough to pay for his education.

    Comment by AD - RtR/OS! (ad3aba) — 5/3/2010 @ 6:35 pm

  188. Wonder if he applied to the other services? If so, kudos to their screening processes.

    I do know that medical personnel are in high demand among the military and I’m guessing the Army more than most. In this case especially, since they have the most need to address PTSD problems by virtue of their larger number of ground combat forces.

    Maybe they have lowered their standards or downgraded their screening parameters? If so, I hope this is being addressed.

    Comment by Pons Asinorum (770c6d) — 5/3/2010 @ 7:33 pm

  189. Pakistani man arrested in bombing case.

    But I’m sure nishi will be by to tell us he was a Hutaree belonging, Tea Party attending Pakistani.

    Comment by Have Blue (854a6e) — 5/3/2010 @ 9:44 pm

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