Pelosi Logic
[Guest post by DRJ]
And for those who want context:
“You’ve heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don’t know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention—it’s about diet, not diabetes. It’s going to be very, very exciting.
“But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy. Furthermore, we believe that health care reform, again I said at the beginning of my remarks, that we sent the three pillars that the President’s economic stabilization and job creation initiatives were education and innovation—innovation begins in the classroom—clean energy and climate, addressing the climate issues in an innovative way to keep us number one and competitive in the world with the new technology, and the third, first among equals I may say, is health care, health insurance reform. Health insurance reform is about jobs. This legislation alone will create 4 million jobs, about 400,000 jobs very soon.
“We must have the courage, though, to get the job done. We have the ideas. We have the commitment. We have the dedication. We know the urgency. Now we have to have the courage to get the job done. So proud that President Obama is taking the message so forcefully to the American people! This is long overdue, a hundred years.”
So last week’s report about the Democrats’ newest strategy was true: Anyone against health care is a chicken.
– DRJ
which is a good thing, since the taxes and j*b loss this disaster will bring will ensure that there won’t be a chicken in anyone’s pot.
Granny Rictus McBotox can go to hell.
Comment by redc1c4 — 3/9/2010 @ 6:51 pm
Nancy Pelosi… she was daft before it was cool.
Comment by GeneralMalaise — 3/9/2010 @ 6:52 pm
… and in her case, it isn’t!
Comment by AD - RtR/OS! — 3/9/2010 @ 6:53 pm
Nancy Pelosi… the eyes of the true believer… thousand yard stare… mind like a steel trap… that’s rusted and encrusted with bear fur and scat… Nancy Pelosi.
Comment by GeneralMalaise — 3/9/2010 @ 6:56 pm
That should be painful.
Comment by JD — 3/9/2010 @ 7:17 pm
Why can’t Republicans offer amendments the same way? You know, just hand Pelosi a blank piece of paper and ask if she will lend her bipartisan support for the Help the Children initiative, and then after the fact inform her it was a national voucher program.
Comment by Sean P — 3/9/2010 @ 7:17 pm
Behold our liberal illuminati, the educated class, bringing us transparent government and the most ethical Congress ever!!!!!!11ty!!!!!
They think you are stupid and you continue to vote for these morons!
Comment by daleyrocks — 3/9/2010 @ 7:29 pm
Nancy has long ago forgotten, if she ever knew, what this is all about. Health care is forgotten and of no concern to these apparatchiks. This is about the nomenklatura and the proletariat. Guess which we are.
Comment by MIke K — 3/9/2010 @ 7:52 pm
This “after we pass it you’ll find out what’s in it and you’ll learn to love it” business sort of worries me a little bit. I mean, honestly, Nancy doesn’t look all that trustworthy.
Comment by elissa — 3/9/2010 @ 8:02 pm
Palomino!!!!!
Comment by daleyrocks — 3/9/2010 @ 8:32 pm
This comes to mind:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke
The bag is wiggling. It must be good! Pelosi wants us to buy it and then we will find out what is in the bag.
Comment by Eric Blair — 3/9/2010 @ 8:36 pm
“But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it …”
That simple line, probably not intended the way it came out, says so much.
Everyone can choose up sides and argue back and forth about what this party is doing and what that party isn’t or what that guy will do or what the other guy won’t.
And we can all go on and on about who is right and who is wrong.
It really doesn’t matter.
The daughter of a Baltimore pol went away to the Golden State and found a place where she can reign immortal.
And we find ourselves where many, if not most, find comfort in the words:
“..we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.”
I made a joke on this board a few days ago about Pelosi. I said she looked like an HR director, with the caveat that it was probably just me.
Of course, I was taken to task by another commentator that said she looked like the Speaker of the House.
I was wrong in making the joke. She is the Speaker of the House.
And if that that simple sentence, uttered by the Speaker of the House doesn’t frighten you, then you can look at it two ways:
The Government will take care of us.
or
The Government will take care of me.
Comment by Ag80 — 3/9/2010 @ 8:47 pm
Only in San Francisco can a moron like that get repeatedly elected.
Comment by Steve Levy — 3/9/2010 @ 9:01 pm
Nancy comes from a district where the voters are so dumb that they are repeatedly outsmarted by the squirrels in Golden Gate Park.
Comment by Mike Myers — 3/9/2010 @ 9:56 pm
Mike – quit being derogatory about those who vote for our Speaker ! Those *are* American squirrels after all !
Comment by Alasdair — 3/9/2010 @ 10:28 pm
America, this bill is like a box of chocolates. We won’t find out what’s in it until we pass it and bite into it.
Nancy P.
Is this a great country or what?
Comment by daleyrocks — 3/9/2010 @ 11:48 pm
It’s not that hard to find out what’s in this bill. But there is a lot of misdirection. Once it is passed it will become much harder to lie about it, and its effects will be more concrete.
Plus rush limbaugh will leave the country.
Comment by imdw — 3/10/2010 @ 7:10 am
I wish.
Comment by Dave (in MA) — 3/10/2010 @ 7:15 am
#6 Sean P. has a point. I would venture to guess Republicans don’t do the same thing because we are not part of her “Culture of Corruption”.
Comment by tyree — 3/10/2010 @ 7:26 am
Dimwit complaining about lies and misdirection is rich.
Comment by JD — 3/10/2010 @ 7:32 am
17, Ah, our resident pathological liar talking about something being harder to lie about? That’s comedy gold. Maybe let’s defeat the bill, remove Congress and Obama from power, and ship imdw to Zimbabwe without a computer.
Sounds like a win-win-win to me.
Comment by PCD — 3/10/2010 @ 7:43 am
Nancy says “release the flying monkeys!”
Comment by GeneralMalaise — 3/10/2010 @ 7:56 am
Congress is playing Let’s Make a Deal with health care–they’ll pass it and then we’ll find out what’s behind door number two.
Comment by Rochf — 3/10/2010 @ 8:55 am
It’s not that hard to find out what’s in this bill. But there is a lot of misdirection
It’s all the fault of the reich-wing media and big corporations! If only those fat-cats were not in the bag for the Rethuglicans, the truth could get out to the American people!
Comment by Subotai — 3/10/2010 @ 9:59 am
“It’s all the fault of the reich-wing media and big corporations! If only those fat-cats were not in the bag for the Rethuglicans, the truth could get out to the American people!”
I don’t think its a question of being ‘in the bag’ for one side or the other. I think it’s more that their model is of a ‘he said / she said.’
[note: fished from spam filter. --Stashiu]
Comment by imdw — 3/10/2010 @ 1:55 pm
I heard this clip while in the car with my daughter (9). I asked her if she would buy a box at the store after being told she could find out what was inside after she bought it. She replied, “No, that would be stupid.”
Comment by MD in Philly — 3/10/2010 @ 3:15 pm
400,000 jobs quickly. They must be the government jobs.
Comment by davod — 3/10/2010 @ 3:35 pm
Maybe that means 400,000 new IRS employees, since that’s who’s charged with enforcing this mess.
Comment by Rochf — 3/10/2010 @ 3:52 pm
MD in Philly, your daughter is smarter than the average Democrat. You must’ve done something right.
Comment by John Hitchcock — 3/10/2010 @ 3:57 pm
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“I heard this clip while in the car with my daughter (9). I asked her if she would buy a box at the store after being told she could find out what was inside after she bought it. She replied, “No, that would be stupid.””
Lots of things you buy come with a shrinkwrap license that you can only read once you open the box.
Comment by imdw — 3/11/2010 @ 6:26 am
31, what we don’t buy is anything you say, imd-pathological-liar. Go peddle your lies on Kos where other tinfoil hat wearers will buy all you got.
Comment by PCD — 3/11/2010 @ 7:03 am
imdw, you can return an item for a refund if you reject the shrinkwrap license.
Sheesh, the lame analogies you come up with match and even exceed your lame “hey, squirrel” routine.
Comment by SPQR — 3/11/2010 @ 7:09 am
Dick Durbin, who is still saying he doesn’t know what is in the bill (s?), is one of those rush limbaugh reich wingers, I guess.
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And there’s a fair argument to be made that the shrinkwrap license is not enforceable. You weren’t aware of it when you purchased the item, and it adds nothing to the value of the item you bought.
Aside from that, your point is irrelevant anyway.
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