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Fox News Signs Sarah Palin (Updated)

Filed under: General — DRJ @ 12:40 pm

[Guest post by DRJ]

Sarah Palin has joined Fox News as a contributor:

“The network confirmed that Ms. Palin would appear on the network’s programming on a regular basis as part of a multiyear deal. Financial terms were not disclosed.

Ms. Palin will not have her own regular program, one person with knowledge of the deal said, though she will host a series that will run on the network from time to time.”

The formal announcement could come as early as this afternoon.


UPDATE: In an update, the LA Times Show Tracker reports Palin will debut on the O’Reilly show Tuesday night.

94 Responses to “Fox News Signs Sarah Palin (Updated)”

  1. multi-year might could mean “past 2012,” no?

    happyfeet (71f55e)

  2. That is a pretty good match. Since I rarely watch Fox, this will enable me to not watch her simultaneously. Olbergasm and MadCow’s heads will spontaneously assplode on-air.

    I remain ambivalent about her.

    JD (fd1993)

  3. Aggressively ambivalent.

    JD (fd1993)

  4. JD can only have one strong woman in his life at a time.

    AD - RtR/OS! (abf624)

  5. This puts an end to any serious consideration that she might ever be president.

    nk (df76d4)

  6. Hell, AD, I have 3 of them living under the same roof as me.

    JD (fd1993)

  7. “Whipped” doesn’t even come close then?

    AD - RtR/OS! (abf624)

  8. nk…aue contraire…
    I think this is more of a “Ronald Reagan/GE Theatre” strategy.

    AD - RtR/OS! (abf624)

  9. I hope she does Red Eye. She’s got the sense of humor for it.

    Jaynie59 (18e5d1)

  10. Since when did the defender of post-partum abortions also begin to engage in ad hominem utterances?

    Then again, since when has FOX News engaged in the same ass-clownishness of the MSM in calling her Ms. Palin?

    Icy Texan (1470aa)

  11. She’s hot. I know, that is sexist, but that is the first thought in my mind when I see her picture. TV will be good to her, she’ll have a chance to increase her knowledge and credibility. John Kasich, Mike Huckabee, Jesse Ventura, etc. have all taken a cut at a TV show and it was win-win for their profile and some network publicity. None of them were hot.

    TimesDisliker (7581fb)

  12. BTW, JD…
    You’re a very lucky man!

    AD - RtR/OS! (abf624)

  13. Of that there is no doubt, AD.

    JD (fd1993)

  14. “Financial terms were not disclosed.”

    Will they ever be?

    imdw (05d41e)

  15. About the same time that Olbergasm and MadCow disclose all of their finances, imdw.

    JD (fd1993)

  16. This is a good move for her. The Reagan GE theater analogy was good. She will be seen frequently in a friendly setting and can gain more gravitas if she does it right. I still don’t know about 2012 although she would be a hell of a VP candidate with Romney.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  17. #14: funny how important that is to imdw. It’s a mixture of jealousy and a studied lack of concern regarding any number of financial issues involving his beloved “D”s.

    Just a troll, as always.

    Eric Blair (ddbceb)

  18. Romney? hahahahahaha. Oh man, we might as well nominate Obama. I don’t get it with him.

    Palin lacks the experience. I think she’s very sincere and won’t flip flop on simply core aspects of conservatism the way Romney does, but there’s so much more to being a good president. It takes administrative skills.

    I don’t know if Palin is running in 2012, though admitting whether she is or not makes absolutely no sense for her.

    Mike’s totally right about the GE analogy. This + facebook will keep her in the spotlight. Palin was foolish (imo) to take the VP slot without months of preparation (you can blame the Mccain campaign too, but Palin should have known they were not looking out for her). She has to make a very long and hard (and true) case that her performance with Couric et al isn’t who she is. Step by step, she proves it. She’ll release a policy book in a year, and perhaps she will actually run for President. I don’t think she would be dumb enough to let someone use her as VP again.

    If the GOP can’t do any better than Romney, we are in really bad shape. that’s not to diss Mike K at all… he’s right that Romney is among the leading options. He’s better than Huckabee and Mccain and a pile of mudd and some moldy crackers and Strom Thurmond.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  19. He’s better than Huckabee and Mccain and a pile of mudd and some moldy crackers and Strom Thurmond


    Damning with faint praise, if I have ever seen it.

    JD (fd1993)

  20. I would not be surprised to see her on Bret Baier’s show at 6pm Eastern today as part of the panel.

    AD - RtR/OS! (abf624)

  21. Romney endorsed Mccain in Texas. I remember this because it was my intention to vote for Romney in that primary. I knew then that Obama was going to be the President. The democrat actions in Texas were enough to show they were playing for keeps.

    When you have to choose between Romneycare and Mccain Shamnesty, you are not going to beat the kind of guy who outcheats the Clintons.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  22. Maybe imdw wants to view her bank account as a backdoor method to peek inside her uterus.

    Icy Texan (1470aa)

  23. He could get the TSA/Customs guys to demand to know her income for us (see: Michael Yon).

    AD - RtR/OS! (abf624)

  24. Palin was foolish (imo) to take the VP slot without months of preparation

    I disagree completely with this sentiment – when the brass ring comes your way, you take it and don’t look back, or else you’re a ginormous wussy – boy. Palin may be many things, but one thing she’ll never be is gun – shy or gutless. I don’t like her as a candidate, but to parse this kind of opportunity as something that should have been analyzed like one of the old NBC “White Papers” programs is silly. She took her shot and made the best out of bad situation – and if she hadn’t taken that shot, it may never have come.

    Dmac (a964d5)

  25. let me say congrats to her.

    And yes, liberal heads will explode…

    Look let me tell you a story. a few years go i went to a cousin’s birthday, a little girl, and she had her little girl friends there. we brought a copy of Kareoke revolution, American idol edition. That is right, you sing songs and a virtual simon, randy and paula critique you. and like in real life, simon is the toughest one.

    So this girl would sing song after song, and virtual simon would say mean things to her and she would shout, “I hate you! i hate you! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!” I am telling you the exorcist had nothing on this girl.

    And then every now and then she would go, “but i have to admit, he is really handsome.”

    i think the two are related. She wants his virtual approval percisely because he is handsome and when she doesn’t get it, it drove her nuts.

    And likewise, this is what is behind alot of the white-hot palin hatred. liberals have mixed up sex and politics in a bad way, so nothing makes a liberal more crazy than a sexy conservative woman. look at the outsize hatred directed at ann coulter and michelle malkin, for other examples. the men have violent and degrading fantasies and the women enable it because she is just a “bitch” for being attractive and not liberal.

    So yes liberal heads will explode in sort of the self-induced way, if you know what i mean…

    A.W. (e7d72e)

  26. dmac,

    You have a good argument. But the sad thing is, she made the best out of it and even that was a mess. Her 80-90% approval rating is gone, and her state suffered the consequences of democrat BS lawsuits.

    It takes a lot of hard work to be ready for that role. It just does. Sarah had a tough job and simply didn’t prepare. Her victory over O’Biden was purely because she’s smarter and has more charisma… she was not winning on more than pure force of who she was. That’s a problem for me.

    I think it’s clear she was going to be a rising star in the GOP without Mccain’s help. A lot on the right were aware of her before she was picked. I bet you were. She wouldn’t be where she is now in prominence, but if she had completed her governorship and then picked up the torch, there would have been plenty of time to win a nomination. I think she could have made it easily without the debacles.

    I think calling my view gutless is ridiculous. She had a job to do in Alaska, and sadly, was forced out (IMO). This isn’t about how tough she is. She simply wasn’t ready for the national stage. A lot of beltway advice is stupid, but this bit is true: it takes a serious full time effort, for months, to prepare for this kind of race. That’s not why Mccain lost… and I don’t ask Palin to be perfect. But they went from Leibermann to Palin because they had no core vision or plan.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  27. Oh, and I think the world of Palin. I think she’s the best hope we’ve got right now. I do not think this is the ideal, but that’s not relevant.

    She wasn’t ready for the national stage with the pittance of notice she got (according to her book). She was at odds with a campaign operation run by dirtbags, and she set her own cause back quite a bit. Is all that her fault? Of course not, but this was her taking a bullet for the cause of John Mccain, and I wish she hadn’t done it.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  28. You’re right on some of those points, except that I really don’t believe that Palin would have been on anyone’s radar if not for the Veep appointment. If Obama had taken your advice he never would have tried for the Presidency, because he was severely unqualified and entirely untested. Unfortunately, he won anyway, which proves that the much – lauded “vetting process” is just about extinct at this point in time. She didn’t have the luxury of waiting for “just the right moment,” because in most cases that perfect moment never comes along. Remember Nelson Rockefeller’s possible Presidential election campaign? He too held off on “just the right moment,” only to run four years later and was engulfed in a marriage scandal that ruined him. The point is that when it comes to politics, you have to take the opportunities when they present themselves, ready for them or not (of course, if you have no interest in the job, then it’s a moot point).

    Dmac (a964d5)

  29. Was that her fault, that she would be set upon by a bunch of jackals, besides she was working the pipeline deal, and other matters, in that time. Joe Biden has spent 36 years in the Senate and he’s still not ready.

    ian cormac (cbea0c)

  30. You made my points much more succinctly, sir.

    Dmac (a964d5)

  31. “About the same time that Olbergasm and MadCow disclose all of their finances, imdw.”

    Googling I found that olberman’s contract is sourced as 7 or so million a year. Didn’t find one for Maddow, but I only looked briefly.

    imdw (bb8086)

  32. Palins approval ratings are going to go through the roof, people will adore her, get to see her resolve, if I were the Democrats – this would be yet another thing I would worry about – If I were CNN or MSNBC – I’d be looking at the rating and starting my excuses to my sponsors as to why viewership is going further down

    EricPWJohnson (c93d25)

  33. Maybe imdw wants to view her bank account as a backdoor method to peek inside her uterus.

    Comment by Icy Texan

    I see what you did there. Subtle AS reference, and funny as hell.
    I am thrilled for Sarah, and agree with the Regan/GE theater analogy. She connects like no one else can. I went to a wedding last weekend, and 40% of the 20-something girls had Sarah’s *do*.
    And, off topic, but, Scott Brown’s moneybomb has raised $790,000 & counting.

    sybilll (b46c29)

  34. i can’t be bothered to watch most netw*rk TV, certainly not the news shows, and i pretty much only see whatever HRH has on (if i can stand it), but i guarantee that i will go out of my way to see her shows.

    and i won’t be the only one. this is a win/win/win for America. more exposure and experience for Sarah, higher ratings for Fox, and overall higher blood pressure, plus the odd heart attack or stroke amongst the useless drones that make up the lieberal ranks, thus culling the herd.

    redc1c4 (fb8750)

  35. Fox’ $…
    Since Palin is listed as a “Fox News Contributor”, she could be down as an “independent contractor”.

    Olbermann and Maddow, OTOH, are employees of MSNBC, and as “on-air talent” would probably have to have their salaries disclosed in an SEC filing somewhere.

    AD - RtR/OS! (abf624)

  36. If the GOP can’t do any better than Romney, we are in really bad shape.

    I disagree but he has to do a better job than he did in 2008. His spin on the Mass health plan was that they tried it and it didn’t work. Now the Democrats are trying the same thing nationally and he has profited by the experience while they didn’t. That works if it passes or it doesn’t. His big plus is business management experience. That will be more important in 2012 than it was in 2008.

    Romney’s weak points are shown here. Conservatives don’t trust him. Bush’s weak point was his limited experience in foreign policy. Cheney fixed that. She is trust on stilts.

    I don’t know what will happen. Maybe Pawlenty will run a good campaign. Giuliani is kind of passe now. Fred Thompson; I love the guy but he looks like he is ready to embalm. Must be all that protein loss with that hot young wife.

    There are some new guys for 2016, like Ryan and Cantor but they are not ready yet.

    I don’t think abortion, which is an Achilles’ heel for Romney, will be that big an issue in 2012. It will be the economy, the economy, the economy, etc, etc.

    I think she might make the deal and she would be ready when he serves two terms to move right in. That’s 10 years from now and she would be 55 then. She is one year older than my oldest son. I suspect she will look about as good then as she does now.

    How about that 60 year old wife of the Northern Ireland party leader and her 19 year old stud ? She looks good too and her name is Missus Robinson. Too much !

    I think Todd Palin can handle the job OK, though.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  37. I’ve updated the post with a report that Palin will appear on the The O’Reilly Factor Tuesday night.

    DRJ (84a0c3)

  38. She won’t be a Reagan. You don’t go from Governor to talking head. You go from talking head to governor. She won’t even be a Fred Thompson — he managed once to become Senator after actor but then he became an actor again and maybe five percent of the people took him seriously after that. Pat Buchanan comes to mind although she is, admittedly, much prettier.

    nk (df76d4)

  39. Today is a much different political, and social atmosphere than what existed in the 50’s – 60’s.

    With the coming of age of the Boomers (which I mark as the Free Speech Movement at Berkeley jump-starting “The Sixties”), the rules changed. Reagan became governor due to the disgust of the electorate with what they saw on the evening news from Berkeley (and from SF-State, which gave us Sen.Hayakawa), and the seeming impotence of the Brown Administration in dealing with this campus problem, plus the Watts Riot didn’t do the Brown Admin any favors either.
    Because of GE Theatre RR was a widely known public commodity. From his tenure as President of SAG, many would have said that his political future was limited. But, in the end, his positions there looked prescient and principled.

    Plus, we have no idea what will drive the electorate in 2012, 2016, or 2020. We could be looking at a series of one-termers, or not.
    We just don’t know!

    AD - RtR/OS! (abf624)

  40. Comment by Mike K — 1/11/2010 @ 4:15 pm

    What a great and hilarious comment. Heh.

    imdw, what difference does it make how much she’s making and whether or not she discloses her finances? It’s really none of your business, nor anyone’s but hers.

    Pat Buchanan comes to mind although she is, admittedly, much prettier.

    She is indeed much prettier and the average person connects to her and shares her vision of America far more easily and in greater numbers than they ever did with Buchanan.

    Dana (f64b7d)

  41. She was a governor, the vice presidency would have been the next logical step, senator doesn’t really
    suit her, she has a national (and in some parts,) an international following.

    ian cormac (cbea0c)

  42. Dana, I was on a cruise with Thompson and his wife. She is hot. And she is popping out kids like blueberry muffins. Their youngest was a toddler when we were with them in 2008. No wonder he looks tired. Happy, though. He even has a beard, now. I wonder what that is about.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  43. Last time I saw Fred on TV, I would say it’s more of a Van-Dyke!

    AD - RtR/OS! (abf624)

  44. “imdw, what difference does it make how much she’s making and whether or not she discloses her finances? It’s really none of your business, nor anyone’s but hers. ”

    I’m curious to know how lucrative quitting her job has become.

    imdw (6951c3)

  45. I would say that the gig with Fox will pay no way near what she’s earning from her book sales.

    AD - RtR/OS! (abf624)

  46. And she is popping out kids like blueberry muffins.

    You’re killing me, Mike K!

    Tired but happy is an a-okay way to go.

    Dana (f64b7d)

  47. Does Mitt Romney have a life outside of pining for the presidency really?

    He’s like a cocker spaniel sitting by the door.

    happyfeet (e9e587)

  48. He even has a beard, now. I wonder what that is about.

    Likely both his knees and his hand now tremble too much.

    nk (df76d4)

  49. Doesn’t she have a degree in broadcast journalism? If I’m right, TV is a great place for her!

    kimsch (2ce939)

  50. Well, Palin was definitely on my radar prior to Mccain selecting her. She’s simply far too compelling not to have been. A smart, attractive, moral mother with a special needs child, but also a governor who was a powerful success in cleaning up Alaska… she was very popular with a lot of people when talking about the GOP’s long term prospects.

    Had Mccain not selected her, she would not be a household name, true, but not a potential nominee? I think she’d have been as likely as Bill Clinton was, if not more so. She has the ‘it’ factor, and that has nothing to do with Mccain.

    I hope Mike’s right about Romney, but it’s not like his liberalism is particularly isolated. Would I prefer him over Obama? Well, I’d prefer just about anybody to Obama, and like I said, I was about to vote for Romney to avoid Mccain. If he wins the primary in 2012, that means no one was able to beat him, which means Palin didn’t run.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  51. imdw, since keeping her job was costing herself hundreds of thousands of dollars and cost Alaska millions for fighting Obama campaign linked lawsuits, I’d say quitting her job was worth a tremendous amount of money even if she never made another dime in her life.

    But since she’s pretty smart, she’s obviously made several millions in addition.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  52. I note that several have said that Palin was “not ready for the job”.

    Anyone looking at Clueless Joe Biden–even after he’s spent 36 years in the Senate, was sure as hell “not ready for the job”. Ignorance can be cured, but stupid is forever.

    And as for our President? I think the last year has demonstrated, rather amply, that he is also “not ready for the job”.

    Mike Myers (3c9845)

  53. Mike, while I note Palin wasn’t ready for a presidential campaign with the ridiculous short notice and a campaign that was preparing to use Joe Lieberman, I think she was ready enough for the actual VP role.

    There’s a huge difference between being ready for the national stage, the debates, the interviews, and the intense scrutiny, and presiding over the senate once in a while. I’m sure Palin’s success as Governor proves she’s worthy of most leadership positions if she’s given a fair shake.

    But a different point: looking at a VP’s campaign requirements shows that a democrat VP nominee probably does have a much lower qualification bar than a republican. If Palin had performed like Biden her career would truly be over.

    Like many, I was happier with Palin than Mccain on our ticket, but I don’t want our party acting so impulsively. If Mccain had picked her much earlier along, she could have been much more ready. That’s why these folks usually pick someone who has been on the national circuit. You can’t really compare democrats to republicans when the press treats them so differently and press handling is a core aspect.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  54. There’s a huge difference between being ready for the national stage, the debates, the interviews, and the intense scrutiny, and presiding over the senate once in a while.

    And there’s also a huge difference between being ready for the national stage, and presiding over the senate once in a while with the full unabashed support and force of the MSM behind you, than when you are from a remote state where life is unfamiliar, you’re the trifecta of unfashionable (Christian, Republican, Woman…maybe throw in White, too), and from the get-go, you are a target with the full unabashed support and force of the MSM to make it their goal to take you down at every opportunity.

    How does one even objectively assess readiness with this game at play?

    Dana (f64b7d)

  55. Well, the results speak for themselves. For quite a while, most Americans thought Palin unready.

    Fair? nope. From a million angles, this is unfair to Palin. She didn’t have time to prepare, and was given a huge opportunity that is nearly irresistible for a politician or someone motivated to prevent an Obama disaster. Mccain’s campaign actively undermines her, some to this day. The press is ridiculously unfair. Etc etc.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  56. Dustin, that’s the point: millions thought her unready but what was the motivating factor in that process? I’m not talking fair or unfair but just considering if the press were a more neutral observer and didn’t so forcibly shape and mold perceptions of candidates, that those millions may have thought differently. Or not. We just don’t know.

    Dana (f64b7d)

  57. Trollin’ around, imdw writes:

    “…I’m curious to know how lucrative quitting her job has become….”

    And we are all curious if you have ever held a job that doesn’t involve a name tag and a paper hat.

    Or work-study.

    So do you get the point? You are trying to “score points” and “zing” with your comments. You can’t mind it when other people play your game.

    Poseur and loser that you are.

    Eric Blair (ddbceb)

  58. Dana, for all the people who thought that Sarah Palin was “not ready” for the Vice Presidency, I have two simple words:

    Joe Biden.

    Even with all his so-called experience, look at the repeated near-constant idiocies he emits. And did so long before Obama inexplicably selected him as VP.

    So your point is spot on: the media put Palin under a microscope, and played Mr. Magoo with Biden.

    Eric Blair (ddbceb)

  59. Eric Blair – Absolutely. Biden has no public awareness after 35 years in the Senate.

    I don’t think Palin was ready, but it’s obvious that Biden’s still not ready.

    As for Obama’s selection – talk about uninformed. If it’s true that Obama was seriously upset with Biden for spewing gaffes everywhere, that’s an obvious condemnation of Obama. When a known idiot is hired, it’s clearly the fault of management.

    Apogee (e2dc9b)

  60. The Ailes-Palin teaming is supposed to parallel his PR work with Richard Nixon. From americanradioworks:

    A central architect of Nixon’s television campaign was a young producer for the Mike Douglas Show, Roger Ailes. Nixon met Ailes when he was a guest on the show in 1967.

    Sitting in a make-up chair, Nixon said it was silly to have to go on TV to get elected president. According to Rick Perlstein, Ailes’ response was a surprise. “Mr. Nixon,” Ailes said, “if you think this is silly you’ll never become president of the United States.” Nixon liked the young prodigy and put Ailes on the payroll. (Ailes later played a crucial role in the campaigns of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and went on to become the head of Fox News.)

    Nixon’s media team scrutinized their candidate’s earlier television appearances and agreed Nixon came off best in more informal settings, places where he could speak extemporaneously. So they began to stage artificial town hall meetings – called “Man in the Arena” – where Nixon would take questions from a handpicked crowd of supporters. The idea was to destroy the image of Nixon as a loser by showing him as a fighter, someone who could survive tough questions on the public stage.

    Vermont Neighbor (0d395c)

  61. I don’t know, Apogee. The whole things seems nutty deluxe. I still think that HRC was the original choice, with BHO as VP. Doesn’t that make more sense? Whether or not HRC had enough experience, she was thought to have more experience.

    I think her campaign imploded, and then BHO ended up in the top spot.

    He probably had other choices for VP who turned him down. Heck, he couldn’t choice John Edwards. Who else?

    And my Left of center friends keep carrying on about how wise this guy is. Really?

    Eric Blair (ddbceb)

  62. Whether or not HRC was the DNC choice, she certainly wasn’t the voter’s choice, and I think as well that there was internecine Dem party fighting between the Clinton clique and those outside in the run-up to the primaries.

    Democrat friends of mine did not like HRC at all.

    If you asked me my gut, I’d say BHO became a Clinton killer for those so disposed, which explains his ‘meteoric’ rise – it wasn’t entirely about him. His stone killed 2 birds. There are other small, boring and ineffective candidates who don’t actively damage your message that BHO could have chosen.

    That he didn’t should reflect on him every time Biden opens his gaping, ignorant maw.

    Apogee (e2dc9b)

  63. “that those millions may have thought differently. Or not. We just don’t know.

    Comment by Dana”

    I am willing to go a step further. There was a massive undertaking to destroy Palin’s reputation in our media, and it was very effective. If the press had simply presented candidates as they were, or with their record, I think most Americans would have a positive impression of Palin even if they didn’t agree with her politics very much.

    If the press had simply reported the basics of her life in a bare manner, without inventing bullshit about dinosaurs and seeing Russia from her house and whatever, and shown a lady cleaning house, what’s not to like? Similarly, Obama wouldn’t have stood a chance. The media truly went overboard in 2008.

    You can’t compare Joe Biden to Sarah Palin. Joe’s a democrat, and most of his job is done for him. He will be respected in the press for absolutely nothing. A GOP national candidate has to be sharp and ready for attacks from anywhere, mostly complete fabrications. Even earning a living is a source of attack, as imdw stupidly proves.

    that interview with Couric was 6 hours long, I believe. Palin’s major gaffe was simply not answering a very dumb and kinda insulting question. When cut out and shoved at the front, it seems like a fresh Palin is treated well and has no basic reason to answer the question no matter how obviously oddball it is. Palin wasn’t prepared for such a bizarre situation. Palin was not in the same job role Biden was in, and they weren’t running for similar offices. Mccain and Obama weren’t either.

    In this information age, with most people getting information from the democrat propaganda apparatus, going against the system is totally different from using the system. Joe Biden is 100% up to the task of comic relief in the Obama administration, and I think he’d make a better president than Obama.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  64. Mike K, you suggested a Romney Palin ticket. Would you be amenable to a Palin Romney ticket? Of course, I’d like a Palin Thompson (Fred or Tommy) ticket myself.

    John Hitchcock (3fd153)

  65. Comment by sybilll — 1/11/2010 @ 3:51 pm
    I see what you did there. Subtle AS reference, and funny as hell.

    — Thank YOU! This might be the first time where I didn’t outsmart myself by slipping in a reference that only I recognize. I was indeed comparing imdw to old Power Glutes himself. :-)

    Icy Texan (5dc763)

  66. “So do you get the point? You are trying to “score points” and “zing” with your comments. You can’t mind it when other people play your game.”

    You think I mind it when people think they’re scoring something or being funny by saying I work in food-service or am in high school? You want to waste time on that go ahead.

    imdw (017d51)

  67. John, I don’t think Romney would add anything as a VP nominee. Palin would make him viable with the base. That was my point. I think it is too soon for her to run for the top spot since I think she needs more policy coaching. Margaret Thatcher had a small brain trust when she first entered Heath’s government, as education minister, I believe. I would hate to see her stumble by going for the top too soon.

    Romney got himself in trouble in 2008 by being tagged as governor of Mass instead of the guy who started Staples and saved the Salt Lake City Olympics when they were about to be a bust. His real background is as a businessman. His other problems include a goody-goody manner and his problems with abortion having waffled in Mass.

    By 2012, we will have seen just how bad an Obama clone could do as the succeeding governor (Which is a lot of the Scott Brown story) and Romney could turn the Romneycare story around by saying that he learned his lesson about health care. His theme could be that they tried the Obama type program and it didn’t work. Premiums went up and costs exploded. In 2008, that wasn’t as obvious and we didn’t have Obamacare to compare.

    I think Romney’s public speaking manner is a problem because he sounds like a used car salesman. Fred Thompson has a much better manner. Maybe Pawlenty can break out from the pack. Anybody else is going to look like another Obama with no resume.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  68. I’m not that hung up that hung up on his speaking style, although having been a businessman for most of his life, you think he would have come up with a better pitch. But a rich Mormon investment banker, yout think he won’t be fileted six ways fromSunday, and the truth has little to do with it,read that lie about Bain Capital that kept him out of the Senate, in 1994. Who is leading this movementagainst this oppressive leviathan that they are trying to erect. It’s not Romney, Pawlenty and
    certainly not Huckabee,

    ian cormac (cbea0c)

  69. Here is a comment on Palin’s Fox gig that, while not all that friendly, is pretty good on the basic story. This will help her.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  70. It’s condescending, off base and just marginally on the ball, but that’s the Post for you. It was left up to her, to analyze the consequences of the health
    care bill, they didn’t do it to any significant extent. They were all singing the hosannas of whoever put their name on the thing

    ian cormac (cbea0c)

  71. imdw is a cafeteria lady?!

    Icy Texan (cd390d)

  72. I think Romney’s public speaking manner is a problem because he sounds like a used car salesman. Fred Thompson has a much better manner. Maybe Pawlenty can break out from the pack. Anybody else is going to look like another Obama with no resume.

    Comment by Mike K

    This is true and I wonder if everyone grasps this. Romney looks like John Edwards or Rick Perry. This is a hurdle he has to overcome. He’s a smart businessman, but smart businesspeople are often politically untenable for social positions or other things. I think Romney would have won in 2008, and I don’t hate the poor fella. He definitely was attacked worse than he deserved to be.

    But I fundamentally don’t trust him. I think Palin has already gone far beyond the level of skill she needs to operate at the national stage (which says a lot about Mccain’s staff failure to get her there before she was on it). and I think Palin can deal with her lack of experience better than Romney can deal with the realities of getting elected in Massachusetts.

    These are smart people who can learn to work together, I think. I also think they are going to have a vigorous debate and a tough fight for nomination.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  73. although she would be a hell of a VP candidate with Romney.


    Screw Romney. That phony *might* be a hell of a VP candidate for HER. I don’t like her at all, but this condescending pretend game that she is not the Republican star is cloying.

    She is No. 1 right now — the only Republican anybody would go anywhere to see. That’s why there is whining as we speak from folks who want her to go to CPAC instead of the tea party thingy. No one cares where Romney goes.

    Myron (6a93dd)

  74. 64, OH GOD, NO!!!! Not Tommy Thompson!!!!!!

    The only people worse would be Democrats from Wisconsin like David Obey, Tammy Kind, that idiot mayor of Milwaukee, Barrett,…

    PCD (1d8b6d)

  75. Mike K…Reading most of those comments at the WaPo re Palin/FNC,
    you just know that a lot of those people will end up with egg on their face, except, as we all know,
    being a Leftist means never having to say you’re sorry.

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  76. “being a Leftist means never having to say you’re sorry.”

    Like when harry reid apologizes to the president.

    imdw (795ee1)

  77. I see Myron and imdw are posting together again…

    Wonder Twin powers…activate!

    Besides, when imdw, from his parents’ loft on his Nickelodeon themed netbook writes:

    “…You think I mind it when people think they’re scoring something or being funny by saying I work in food-service or am in high school?You want to waste time on that go ahead….”

    Well, it is just plain hilarious. Now…how best to “paraphrase” that in the Hallowed Sophomore Stylin’ of Imdw?

    Oh yes: you are in high school and food service both!

    Isn’t that the kind of dishonesty you like to show off?

    You are such a poseur.

    Eric Blair (c8876d)

  78. “Oh yes: you are in high school and food service both!”

    What’s to pose about about? You going to be talking mankiw and dixiecrats with a high school minimum wage slave?

    imdw (72206b)

  79. Mike K, I think you should ignore myron. If you think Romney is the best candidate up there, fly that flag. We need a robust debate, and if Romney think he can convince more voters, more power to him. I don’t care about VP estimations that much. It’s not a conciliation prize.

    People pushing Romney are not harming Palin, or vice versa. That was a big problem in the 2008 election. Huckabee supporters and Ron Paul fans in particular didn’t understand this. Pick who you prefer, and make your argument, and whoever wins at the end will probably be an improvement over Obama.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  80. Hear Hear!

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  81. My oh my, imdw! Quite proud of your Wikipedia, are you? Pride goeth and all that.

    Also, I do believe your kiddie netbook has a “cap” key, right?

    Eric Blair (c8876d)

  82. Oh, and just in case you didn’t “get it,” my genius level friend: you have repeatedly misrepresented what other people, here and elsewhere, have written. Intellectually lazy or ignorant; take your pick.

    So misrepresenting what you write is justice.

    Troll justice.

    Eric Blair (c8876d)

  83. “Oh, and just in case you didn’t “get it,””

    I got your schtick. Thanks for the concern.

    imdw (6951c3)

  84. ” … an improvement over Obama.”

    Dustin: Keep telling yourself that. I doubt the American people would agree.

    The GOP bench is the weakest I’ve ever seen it, seriously. I count one *possible* heavy-hitter: Virginia’s Bob McDonnell. And I don’t know if he can handle the glare and attacks of a national campaign.

    Jindal has proven to be a wash. Romney’s problems are well-known, as are Palin’s and Mike “Willie Horton” Huckabee’s.

    Then again, it’s a long time till 2012. Someone will emerge, but I don’t see anything yet.

    Myron (6a93dd)

  85. ^Once again displaying it’s usual MO when posting; only during normal business hours, Monday – Friday. It would appear to be the handiwork of a library computer, or perhaps a Kinko’s rental. Whichever the case, the pattern is clearly identifiable – either a HS student or someone who had his computer time severely curtailed by his mother.

    Dmac (539341)

  86. myron, I will keep telling myself that.

    I knew Obama would win before he was nominated. I called the 2006 election. I knew Bush would win in 2004. I have no illusions that it will be a very hard fight, and there is a long way to go. 3 more years of the worst deficits in world history. 3 more years of fake deadlines to iran. 3 more years of sneering and lying and back room deals. 3 more years of apologizing for the USA.

    But whoever the GOP selects will be an improvement over Obama, after 3 long years.

    Maybe Obama will win reelection. You are right that the bench on the right is light. To some extent, anyway. Obama’s a weaker candidate than he was in 2008, and the people’s views on democrats have changed greatly too. There’s a reason the democrats are clinging to life in a Massachusetts race. I’m not going to pretend to be cocky about this. I sure as hell hope your side listens to your advice and buys what you’re selling.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  87. Mike K, I think you should ignore myron

    Perhaps you could take your own advice regarding Moron, Dustin. Why on earth do you engage at this point? No one else here takes that crap seriously, if they ever did to begin with. Please don’t feed the troll.

    Dmac (539341)

  88. Moron is Axelrod’s sock puppet?

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  89. Please don’t feed the troll.

    Comment by Dmac

    Good point.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  90. C’mon. They are just the WonderTwins of Kinkos or Burger Chef.

    Shape…of an irritating troll!
    Power…of a ignoramus!

    Personally, I like the image of the Brain Trust posting on their Nickelodeon-themed netbooks. I believe that Target sells them.

    Eric Blair (c8876d)

  91. Eric, the strangest thing is that Moron posts almost exactly like MoDo’s excrement over at the NYT – same childish/teenage angst/girly/Perez Hilton tortured analogies and prose. Coupled with deep delusions of grandeur and some kind of claimed awesome prognostication powers, but of course those awesome powers are called into question when claimed predictions happened over 4 years ago. Weirdest thing I’ve seen in quite awhile, gives off a smelly vibe.

    Dmac (539341)

  92. I like the image of the Brain Trust posting on their Nickelodeon-themed netbooks. I believe that Target sells them.

    I was going to go with their own personal Trapper Keepers, but that works as well.

    Dmac (539341)

  93. Yeah, something tells me that they aren’t…well…happy with their current professions.

    Or enrolled classes.

    Eric Blair (c8876d)

  94. Watched Gov.Palin on O’Reilly, and it’s worse than everyone one claims…
    Why she didn’t know the difference between MSNBC and CNBC…
    Oh, wait….that never came up.

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