GreenPeace Objects to Obama’s Cheap Tricks
[Guest post by DRJ]
Even before the Copenhagen summit, GreenPeace was objecting to the Obama Administration’s climate change math:
“If you listened only to the White House, you could easily believe that Obama single-handedly saved the climate while everyone else stood around on the sidelines. The truth is, these are the numbers of the Waxman-Markey bill, which is not and has never been enough to really combat the devastating effects of climate change.
The US keeps hiding behind weak numbers, made to appear stronger by shifting the “baseline” date to which they’re compared. A reduction of 17 percent of 2005 levels is really a reduction of four or five percent of 1990 levels, the base year all other developed countries are using.
Using 2005 as a base year is the kind of cheap math trick we expect from the Bush administration, not from a President who was elected promising he was going to get us out of the climate crisis. Moving the goal posts to pretend you’re scoring is a nice way to spin your speeches, but science doesn’t work that way. We can’t change the science – we have to change the politics, which is not the way Obama is going right now.”
GreenPeace was counting on Obama to step up and make a difference in Copenhagen. Now even it says he failed.
— DRJ
We can’t change the science – we have to change the politics, which is not the way Obama is going right now.”
Making this a political rather than a scientific issue has been the whole damn problem from the beginning.
Another Chris (470967) — 12/22/2009 @ 9:37 pmMy bet is that Obama knows that we are now in a cooling trend, so he had to have an agreement at Copenhagen in order to claim some credit for the cooling.
Yeah, time is running out for politicians to claim credit for the cooling.
Neo (7830e6) — 12/22/2009 @ 9:58 pmBoy, when even the Left is claiming that Teh One is fudging the numbers….
AD - RtR/OS! (ad16d5) — 12/22/2009 @ 10:02 pmWhat is there left to believe in?
It’s great when they say he failed even the fake science!
daleyrocks (718861) — 12/22/2009 @ 10:26 pmof course he failed: that’s the only thing he’s capeable of. its difficult to suddenly start doing things when you’ve spent your entire life just talking shit.
redc1c4 (808dfa) — 12/22/2009 @ 10:57 pmCan one imagine what is expected when 100 BILLION
Krusher (f21160) — 12/23/2009 @ 1:58 amDOLLARS is not even mentioned?
Greenpeace can suck whales – did anyone catch the photo op when they got pwned last week during the big hoo – ha, on their own ship? Whoever did this deserves a medal:
http://www.just-a-regular-guy.com/2009/12/22/greenpeace-ship-gets-owned-while-parked-during-global-warming-conference/
Dmac (a964d5) — 12/23/2009 @ 5:17 amHas Greenpeace just now discovered Obama can’t walk on water?
MU789 (af0809) — 12/23/2009 @ 6:53 amIt’s funny that they don’t like 2005 as a base. How very Euro-centric of them. In the Kyoto accords, which came into force in 2005, industrialized countries agreed to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions 5% from the 1990 level. But the only industrialized country to actually make a run at even the 2005 level, the accord year, much less the 1990 level, is the United States. Yes, under Bush leadership we’ve done a better job than other countries. If you compare a larger data set, the difference between us and the Europeans isn’t as stark, but comparing the 2005 base makes our accomplishment stand out. Hey! Maybe the difference can be explained by contrasting the Euro model of administrative government ineffectiveness and the US model of free market effectiveness! Oh, but that wouldn’t serve the socialist world government purposes of these idiots using greenhouse gasses as a trojan horse, now would it.
MTF (6e6f07) — 12/23/2009 @ 7:35 amAnyone notice the record cold? Seems Roger Simon has an article which indicates some real scientist claiming we are entering a period of global cooling which he states will last about 50 years. He, as of yet, has not hidden or destroyed any of his data and you do not need the force of a law suit under the Freedom of Inforamtion Act to get his data or check on his conclusions. Whats up with that?
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III (57cae1) — 12/23/2009 @ 7:42 amThey throw in snark about the Bush administration, which is cheap of them since the Bush administration did more for reducing US CO2 emissions than any Democrat administration.
SPQR (26be8b) — 12/23/2009 @ 8:33 amThe Climategate scandal has devastated the AGW people. They won’t know their throat has been cut until they try to turn their heads.
It’s over.
Mike K (2cf494) — 12/23/2009 @ 10:45 amThe 1990 baseline was itself carefully chosen. In 1990 Europe was mired in recession while the US economy was robust. Using 1990 as the baseline in the Kyoto treaty was a deliberate attempt to screw over the US.
Steven Den Beste (99cfa1) — 12/23/2009 @ 11:10 amThe United Nations is organized around one central function, screwing America, and any other English speaking country available. That principle alone puts the U in the UN.
ropelight (b70906) — 12/23/2009 @ 11:32 amWhat’s hilarious is that the radicalism continues. now they are coming for our dogs.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091220/sc_afp/lifestyleclimatewarminganimalsfood
they have no sense of what is reasonable to ask for. here’s a hint guys. there are alot of people who would sooner give up their SUVs than their dogs.
A.W. (e7d72e) — 12/23/2009 @ 11:33 amA.W., the people in that story probably support owning pet rocks. But not just any rocks. No, you would have to own a white rock — one that reflects heat, rather than absorbing it. Because you know that those nasty black rocks take in all of those harmful UV rays, raising the temp of the surrounding land & making things difficult for all of the white rock lovers. Nope, those darkie rocks have just gotta go. They — hey, wait a minute . . .
Racists!
Icy Texan (74307f) — 12/23/2009 @ 11:56 amIf they really feel that way about all carbon – based life forms, then let’s call their bluff; all those who are true believers, step right up and slit your throats immediately.
Dmac (a964d5) — 12/23/2009 @ 1:19 pmForgot that add that Mother Gaia will thank you for your selfless sacrifice.
Dmac (a964d5) — 12/23/2009 @ 1:19 pmDmac,
The greenies are not even willing to fly commercial to copenhagen. that are willing to sacrifice nothing.
A.W. (e7d72e) — 12/23/2009 @ 1:54 pmA.W., funniest story was when Bono actually had his private jet fly all the way back home from South Africa (where they were playing), just to retrieve his favorite hat. No other passengers (save the pilot) were on board for the entire round – trip. Let’s see, Ireland to South Africa and back…gotta be close to 6K air miles, easy.
Dmac (a964d5) — 12/23/2009 @ 2:01 pmIt’s different for the aristocrats, Dmac!
Personally, I think that every member of Congress should have to pay three times the amount of any tax increase they vote for, so long as the legislation is in place.
After all, the tax increases are for the good of the country, right?
Unless they just want other people to pay for the nonsense.
Eric Blair (ddbceb) — 12/23/2009 @ 2:06 pmComment by Dmac — 12/23/2009 @ 2:01 pm
Actual air miles between Dublin and Cape Town are 6,176.01 – ONE WAY!
AD - RtR/OS! (a9bf4b) — 12/23/2009 @ 2:12 pmI’ve been shoveling enough gotdaaumed global warming today to last me for several years.
I want BLACK rocks! Got it? Black! They attract heat, melt snow and ice!
I’ll cover them with grass clippings all summer long. Then fire them up at first snow fall.
Oh and GreanPeace sucks shit! If I was the captain of a big ship lawfully hunting harvesting, they best watch their starboard cuz I’m cummin in!
TC (0b9ca4) — 12/23/2009 @ 4:45 pm