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	<title>Comments on: Jeff Jacoby: Support In-State Tuition for Illegal Immigrants or Be Labeled &#8220;Unprincipled&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: highpockets</title>
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		<dc:creator>highpockets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we get rid of the word &quot; illegal&quot; we are just talking about other peoples money. Zero be loving OPM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we get rid of the word &#8221; illegal&#8221; we are just talking about other peoples money. Zero be loving OPM.</p>
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		<title>By: AD - RtR/OS!</title>
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		<dc:creator>AD - RtR/OS!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;...plant in the Carolinas was raided and most of the illegals working there were arrested...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Same thing happened - within the last year IIRC - at a major-name meat plant on the Great Plains.  Locals were lined up around the block to apply for those jobs (probably a few for the HR slots that opened up with their previous occupants in the hoose-gow, too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;plant in the Carolinas was raided and most of the illegals working there were arrested&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Same thing happened &#8211; within the last year IIRC &#8211; at a major-name meat plant on the Great Plains.  Locals were lined up around the block to apply for those jobs (probably a few for the HR slots that opened up with their previous occupants in the hoose-gow, too).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Giles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No, the illegals came here and took the jobs that good American citizens didn’t want and wouldn’t do.&quot;

..at the below market wages illegals are paid.

There FIFY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No, the illegals came here and took the jobs that good American citizens didn’t want and wouldn’t do.&#8221;</p>
<p>..at the below market wages illegals are paid.</p>
<p>There FIFY</p>
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		<title>By: Have Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Have Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, should have said Central and South American. As I pointed out several ladies are from Peru, and a couple of others are from Columbia and Ecuador.  (Didn&#039;t want any one pointing out Peru is not in Central America.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, should have said Central and South American. As I pointed out several ladies are from Peru, and a couple of others are from Columbia and Ecuador.  (Didn&#8217;t want any one pointing out Peru is not in Central America.)</p>
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		<title>By: Have Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Have Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A meat proccesing plant in the Carolinas was raided and most of the illegals working there were arrested. Locals lined up around the block to apply for jobs. And this was several years ago before the post 2006 Democratic congress mess we are currently in.

That said at the large corporate headquarters where I currently work the cleaning staff is 100% Central American and West Indian. Staff is non-unionized but well payed. Insurance and other benefits. A lady recently returned from vacation back to Peru that lasted seven weeks. I imagine not all of that was paid but her job was kept for her while she was gone. The company that runs the service has ads in the papers every day but can not get locals to sign up. (And if you want to see unhinged ethnic hatred just put two guys from the wrong two islands togther on a crew.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A meat proccesing plant in the Carolinas was raided and most of the illegals working there were arrested. Locals lined up around the block to apply for jobs. And this was several years ago before the post 2006 Democratic congress mess we are currently in.</p>
<p>That said at the large corporate headquarters where I currently work the cleaning staff is 100% Central American and West Indian. Staff is non-unionized but well payed. Insurance and other benefits. A lady recently returned from vacation back to Peru that lasted seven weeks. I imagine not all of that was paid but her job was kept for her while she was gone. The company that runs the service has ads in the papers every day but can not get locals to sign up. (And if you want to see unhinged ethnic hatred just put two guys from the wrong two islands togther on a crew.)</p>
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		<title>By: EricPWJohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>EricPWJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ropelight

I understand, however - I think most of those lower tier illegal immigrant jobs are not going to cross over to the millions of out of work Americans - I dont think anyone realistically is seeing that scenario - down the line - it could happen - but I think if unemployment gets any worse then a seismic shift in political thinking is going to occur</description>
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<p>I understand, however &#8211; I think most of those lower tier illegal immigrant jobs are not going to cross over to the millions of out of work Americans &#8211; I dont think anyone realistically is seeing that scenario &#8211; down the line &#8211; it could happen &#8211; but I think if unemployment gets any worse then a seismic shift in political thinking is going to occur</p>
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		<title>By: tyree</title>
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		<dc:creator>tyree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do dozens of little things to save water here in arid California. I drain the first two quarts of water from the hot water line in the morning into a pitcher instead pouring it down the drain. I use that to flush the toilet. I have been doing this for over a decade to save water. During that time the governments of the US and the government of Mexico have allowed MILLIONS of illegal aliens to move into my state. Illegal aliens are responsible for tremendous problems in our state and in our country. Unfortunately, there has been precious little open public debate on the cost of providing services to these millions of illegal aliens and their families. We are just expected to pay up and shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do dozens of little things to save water here in arid California. I drain the first two quarts of water from the hot water line in the morning into a pitcher instead pouring it down the drain. I use that to flush the toilet. I have been doing this for over a decade to save water. During that time the governments of the US and the government of Mexico have allowed MILLIONS of illegal aliens to move into my state. Illegal aliens are responsible for tremendous problems in our state and in our country. Unfortunately, there has been precious little open public debate on the cost of providing services to these millions of illegal aliens and their families. We are just expected to pay up and shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: ropelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>ropelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#77, EPWJ, my comment was about millions of illegal aliens living and working in the USA when our own citizens want and need jobs. It was in response to Dana&#039;s comment at #65, you can follow it back from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#77, EPWJ, my comment was about millions of illegal aliens living and working in the USA when our own citizens want and need jobs. It was in response to Dana&#8217;s comment at #65, you can follow it back from there.</p>
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		<title>By: drone</title>
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		<dc:creator>drone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay crossed of umass from my kids common application. thanks for the info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay crossed of umass from my kids common application. thanks for the info</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In line with Rip Off Je$$ie Jack$on&#039;s comment that you can&#039;t vote against the largest rip off in history and call yourself a black man. You can&#039;t support the Abortion/Murder in the bill and call yourself a christian. Tell me again what church Je$$ie is a member of. MLK would have the black democrats of today boiled in oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In line with Rip Off Je$$ie Jack$on&#8217;s comment that you can&#8217;t vote against the largest rip off in history and call yourself a black man. You can&#8217;t support the Abortion/Murder in the bill and call yourself a christian. Tell me again what church Je$$ie is a member of. MLK would have the black democrats of today boiled in oil.</p>
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