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Really Not Ready For Prime Time.

SPQR (26be8b) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:06 pm

We’re not in good hands.

It’s not a good feeling.

happyfeet (f62c43) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:09 pm

Just an isolated incident … Religion of Peace you know.

HeavenSent (01a566) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:10 pm

He’s such an amateur. I really wish we had an adult in charge.

LASue (5f0073) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:17 pm

The report by The Swamp — the Chicago Tribune’s Washington office aka Obama’s fawning hometown media — made it sound like all Obama talked about was the shooting. The Swamp also revealed that Obama had been notified earlier in the afternoon so this wasn’t a spontaneous statement:

“Obama, who had been informed of the shootings privately this afternoon, offered his first public remarks at the start of an address to a summit of native American tribal leaders meeting at the White House.
***
Obama curtailed his prepared remarks for a tribal assembly that he had addressed in the morning and the returned to this afternoon for closing comments, which offered him the first opportunity to address the Fort Hood shootings in public.”

DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:18 pm

Not that Amateur Hour is a new observation.

SPQR (26be8b) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:20 pm

I dont think it is that big of a deal…

But I will politely remind all those that were outraged by President Bush doing a similar thing.

bains (209195) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:21 pm

Barry can always count on the Lamestream media to judiciously edit his remarks. However, I believe that the tide is beginning to turn. Witness some in the MSM calling out all the nonsensical jobs “created or saved” nonsense. Even the AP has been digging.

Gazzer (cac68a) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:23 pm

…and the returned to this afternoon for closing comments, which offered him the first opportunity to address the Fort Hood shootings in public.”

No, it wasn’t the first opportunity to address the Ft. Hood shootings in public – he is the President of the United States and he obviously can, as the POTUS, call up the press at any given moment (even in the middle of the night to make sure his Dover trip could be ~~exploited~~ photographed). How much more with with an American military base under siege?

Also, as reported too in the Chicago-Sun, President Obama was scheduled to be lunching privately with Joe Biden.

So unless it was a matter of security and deliberation while waiting for something verifiable, then it just wasn’t the first time available.

Dana (e9ba20) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:30 pm

Having a child training to be an officer – you cannot imagine what everyone is feeling right now – the Army as well as the other services are a close knit family – more so in this era of the volunteer Army – well many of you laready know that – those commentators that have served like John and more,

This was a deliberate blow to our servicemen and woman overseas a callous attempt to forment and spread an uneasiness that their families are not safe back home

Guess again….

Mark down this as yet another time America has been tested –

EricPWJohnson (3dcb23) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:45 pm

American’s mainstream voices, such as Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers and Van Jones, would see nothing wrong with this.

Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:45 pm

This just shows what a political tin ear Obama has and what a great job his advisers did during the campaign of reigning it in.

Mark O (711b71) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:47 pm

Following the template faithfully:

(CNN) — A picture began to emerge Thursday of the suspect in the Fort Hood shootings as a mental-health professional who had worked to help others in high-stress situations.

Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:50 pm

This is what happens when you tack on comments to the end of a speech that was written a week ago. With no time to change it, you end up with a shitty segue.

I really think that’s what happened here. Late in the day they get this information, he’s going to be giving a speech anyways, so write up comment on that, and tack it to the end of the speech.

I’m not gonna read too much into how it was set up.

Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:52 pm

As far as we know now, at least 12 people were murdered today. It seems as if that toll includes soldiers and at least one civilian police officer.

As the investigation unfolds, we’ll find out the details of what exactly happened. Nonetheless, 12 innocent people were slain and a perpetrator is in custody.

We should all keep their families in our thoughts and prayers, as we should keep all servicemen and civil servants in our thoughts and prayers.

I think we can all refrain from responding to blatant stupidity at this point.

Thank you, bains, for stopping by. I’m sure your comment is a comfort to the families awaiting word on the fate of their husbands, wives, children, fathers and mothers.

Ag80 (3d1543) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:55 pm

It makes me want to cry, the utter cruelty and shallowness of people like him.

Again today, I hate him.

Patricia (b05e7f) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:56 pm

I agree, Mark O. Obama is good at rehearsed lines and PC reactions but not so good at responding to everyday American values. He seems like the opposite of Bush, who could be an awkward speaker and not very PC but was on the same wave-length as most Americans after 9/11.

DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:58 pm

But he’s so cute, I could eat him with a spoon. That boyish look combined with that deep manly voice … I could just swoon!!!!

nk (df76d4) — 11/5/2009 @ 7:58 pm

Perhaps we should blame it on TOTUS.

Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 11/5/2009 @ 8:00 pm

I think he was letting friendly media know not to push this story, and try to kill the story if possible.

The Democrat community must have advanced this psychopath’s career against lots of protestations from normal people.

j curtis (5126e4) — 11/5/2009 @ 8:09 pm

Obama can still do the rignt thing – delcare these combat deaths – there are extra benefits – its the least the American People can do for those families that have lost a loved one. we cant replace them but we can honor them as war casualties, its a small but significant difference than a murder victim.

EricPWJohnson (3dcb23) — 11/5/2009 @ 8:13 pm

Hmmm. I find it extremely odd to see the President stumble with having to read how he feels. Jebus, bring back the teleprompter if you are really that incompetent.

G (58c282) — 11/5/2009 @ 8:28 pm

Jake Tapper’s latest Tweet: jaketapper NPR source: Hasan was put on probation during his postgrad work for proselytizing about Islam w/ patients + colleagues http://bit.ly/2Llw4r

I am sickened, and I saw a Tweet that “Olby led with Bachmann the Twit”. We are toast.

sybilll (1aa016) — 11/5/2009 @ 8:32 pm

I’m sure O will soon salute the robust debate at Ft. Hood.

Patricia (b05e7f) — 11/5/2009 @ 8:41 pm

Against my better judgment, I went ahead and ventured over to Kos and HuffPo to see what the intelligentsia thinks.

To HuffPo’s credit, they have the story at the top. I did like Sam Stein’s headline, though:

Muslim, Arab Groups Condemn Fort Hood Shooting, Brace For Backlash

I always like those “World Ends! Women and Children Hardest Hit”-type headlines

Good for those groups on the condemning part, not so much on the bracing part, though. What do they think is going to happen? A bunch of old white guys are going to start torching mosques? They did receive “anonymous threats,” though. You can’t be too careful.

Kos was kind of OK, too. At least, as you scroll down past the garbage on the next election cycle and finally find the post, it was measured. The comments were full-goose loony, but to be expected: this is a portend of a service-wide “mutiny,” the “teabaggers” will have a field day and, of course, the major’s “abuse” by the military fueled the rampage.

People died today at the hands of an insane person. I don’t know what drove him to his insanity. I don’t even know, for sure, that the person in custody committed the acts. That’s for a court of law to decide.

But, I do have to say that when insane people do insane things, it’s not always about politics or religion.

They may be driven by religion or politics, but crazy is the only explanation for Timothy McVeigh, the 9-11 perpetrators or today’s tragedy.

Insanity may take root in politics or religion, but it is still insanity.

Ag80 (3d1543) — 11/5/2009 @ 8:54 pm

Even a draft dodger like Clinton would have known better than do a shout out to his homies before mentioning, that, oh by the way some people were killed at Fort Hood. Film at eleven.

Obama is our Ted Baxter.

MU789 (897b57) — 11/5/2009 @ 9:06 pm

“…Late in the day they get this information…”

Wasn’t the shooting at 2:30ET?
Late in the day, my a$$!
People are murdered on a USArmy Base, and the CiC can’t be bothered?
It seems to be a very small step from there (if at all) to “…high crimes and misdemeanors…”!

AD - RtR/OS! (0a796c) — 11/5/2009 @ 9:06 pm

How long is gonna take until we finally impeach this stupid spearchucker and send him back to the Kenyan jungle where he belongs?

I knew America dropped the ball when we let a colored person taint the White House.

And I know not everybody will agree with this, but Michael Steele is worthless. We don’t beat them by acting like them. Let them run their side by putting up inferior darkies who only made it in life by affirmative action. We don’t succeed when we try to act politically correct. Steele has got to go. He’s useless and he’s spineless.

It’s us against them.

White Christian people need to take this country back, because the slimey illegal wetbacks, the radical towelheads, the flaming homos, and the illiterate criminal darkie thugs are gonna run us into the ground.

This needed to be said. We have the money and the guns. We should start acting like it.

Zevon (cf0500) — 11/5/2009 @ 9:11 pm

Zevon:

Eat acid and die you worthless troll. Wrong blog, wrong time, wrong universe.

Why did you even bother to waste the electrons?

Warren would spit on your useless carcass you slimy bit that scum wipes off its shoes.

There’s a dictionary listing for you: Smegma.

Ag80 (3d1543) — 11/5/2009 @ 9:18 pm

Piss off Zevon.

G (58c282) — 11/5/2009 @ 9:18 pm

Comment by Zevon — 11/5/2009 @ 9:11 pm

Thanks for the laugh; needed one tonight and ineptness will serve just as well as wit.

Can never figure out if the trolls are stupid enough to really believe conservatives think this way, or just that they’re stupid enough to think anyone’s going to fall for the Mobying. Not mutually exclusive options, I know.

no one you know (1ebbb1) — 11/5/2009 @ 9:27 pm

Hey, Zevon, my daughter is pregnant (pic) and her son won’t be white. How’s that grab ya?

John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/5/2009 @ 9:33 pm

You seem to misunderstand, Zevon. We don’t like Obama because he is a Socialist. He could be the most purebred caucasian that ever lived, and we would still hate him for the same reason: because he is a Socialist wimp.

Icy Texan (a040d4) — 11/5/2009 @ 9:37 pm

Zevon is a prime candidate for a combination lobotomy/castration.

AD - RtR/OS! (0a796c) — 11/5/2009 @ 9:37 pm

Zevon:

Go away. Kos is calling. Can’t you hear him calling: “Come home, all you who are sinners, come home.”

Pretty funny troll, though.

Ag80 (3d1543) — 11/5/2009 @ 9:37 pm

AD, in the case of Zevon, how is that a combination?

John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/5/2009 @ 9:41 pm

Well, the Doc does a front and back move with the scalpel…

AD - RtR/OS! (0a796c) — 11/5/2009 @ 9:44 pm

Comment by EricPWJohnson — 11/5/2009 @ 8:13 pm

That is a very sensible and honorable idea, but I would doubt that it will happen simply because acknowledging these as combat deaths would be at least a partial admission that this was an attack by a turncoat radical Islamic terrorist. The CAIR/civil rights axis will work overtime with guilty white liberals to prevent even the hint that Maj. Hasan was motivated by ideology. They will chalk it up to anti-Muslim bullying in the army which drove him to despair and ultimately caused this horrible act, otherwise known in some parts as “blaming the victim.”

JVW (d32e06) — 11/5/2009 @ 10:00 pm

Zevon is the type who’d probably prefer a Supreme Court made up of 9 justices who are as white as the driven snow but who cozy up to the ideology of a Nancy Pelosi or John Kerry, versus a Supreme Court made up of 9 justices who share both the political views and racial background of a Clarence Thomas.

The idiocy and foolishness of such bigotry is mind boggling.

Mark (411533) — 11/5/2009 @ 10:07 pm

He should have to appear before Janice Rogers Brown!

AD - RtR/OS! (0a796c) — 11/5/2009 @ 10:10 pm

JVW, this happened on a military base by a member of the military. This should go to a military General Court Martial for final dispensation of justice under UCMJ. An interesting point there: Amendment number five is persona-non-grata in the military (and I don’t speak latino). But I’m sure ObamaNation will pull this out of the proper (military) court and stick it into an improper (civilian) court somewhere in Austin or San Fransisco. Maybe Chicago, so he can get a kick-back for a “reasonable” result.

John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/5/2009 @ 10:21 pm

An interesting point there: Amendment number five is persona-non-grata in the military (and I don’t speak latino).
Comment by John Hitchcock — 11/5/2009 @ 10:21 pm

Article 31 of the UCMJ is the military equivalent of the 5th Amendment. An Article 31 Warning is a requirement before questioning, similar to Miranda.

Stashiu3 (44da70) — 11/5/2009 @ 10:26 pm

Comment by Stashiu3 — 11/5/2009 @ 10:26 pm

I stand corrected. I was not at all aware of this.

John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/5/2009 @ 10:33 pm

I was not at all aware of this.
Comment by John Hitchcock — 11/5/2009 @ 10:33 pm

No worries my friend, most people (even Active Duty) aren’t aware of it because they rarely are in a position to be read their rights. When I was a Company Commander I used to do it when my First Sergeant brought somebody to me who had screwed up somehow. Talk about getting their attention. 😉

We had very few NJP (non-judicial punishment/Article 15) cases and no courts-martial cases in our unit. I was fortunate to have a very squared-away First Sergeant and other NCO’s.

Stashiu3 (44da70) — 11/5/2009 @ 10:44 pm

Zevon is no doubt a Moby. Actual racists don’t spell correctly. He’s a left-winger pretending to be a racist right-winger.

Patterico (64318f) — 11/5/2009 @ 11:05 pm

I saw this live, and was shocked by Obama’s clueless tone and self-absorption. But he’s like that pretty much all the time — it’s just more appalling in this context — and he’s not what this is all about.

Beldar (aba21f) — 11/5/2009 @ 11:16 pm

Patterico – Sorry to disagree but many racists spell perfectly well. Also I don’t think “slimey” is spelled that way.

Have Blue (854a6e) — 11/5/2009 @ 11:16 pm

What makes a Zevon so funny is that, having obviously never visited this site before, it feels that by uttering such ridiculousness, we will all pile on and agree. Then it can report back to its handlers, who will then be able to ‘quote” our hate-fuelled diatribes. Except, of course, it never happens…

Gazzer (cac68a) — 11/5/2009 @ 11:21 pm

Gazzer, they can quote Zevon and declare that PP is xenophobic as proven by Zevon’s statement. Context, linkage, blowback, etc are all irrelevant.

John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/5/2009 @ 11:25 pm

Have blue, i think Patterico is just joking that racists are idiots… sadly the world has had many racists who can spell quite well, and even write memoirs about typical white people. It would serve the moby well if Patterico showed that he didn’t accept racism by flipping out angrily at the troll… so instead he laughs at him.

At least that’s how I read it.

Beldar, this is when Obama should SHINE. I mean, Bush shined int he aftermath of horrors. He pulled this nation together and gave us hope, and saved us from some huge potential problems, just by acting like a president.

Obama was elected because he was supposed to have this ability far beyond anything we’d ever seen. I honestly and surprised he has routinely shown that he’s a weak public speaker with very low emotional intelligence. I know he’s got a really hard job, but this is the first major attack on US soil in ages, and the feds had reason to investigate this man. If this had happened under Bush’s watch, the democrats would absolutely be blaming him.

Dustin (bb61e3) — 11/6/2009 @ 12:03 am

Hey, Dustin. Racists are indeed idiots. And 99.55 percent of them cannot spell correctly or use the proper homophone in their rants. If you go to some anti-black “white power” site, I’m sure you’ll find most of the junk wouldn’t pass muster in an 8th grade English class.

John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/6/2009 @ 12:09 am

Zevon’s comment strikes me as something Killgore Trout might say. Many of us are aware that LGF administrators are planting racism on other blogs, and when the comment is not deleted, claim that’s permanent proof that the site is racist. Patterico is heavily promoting Allahpundit, who was the most famous victim of this tactic.

Whether this Zevon, who repeats a lot of LGF tropes in exactly the way LGF says them, is from there or from KOS or is just some lone Moby loser, it’s pathetic.

Dustin (bb61e3) — 11/6/2009 @ 12:13 am

John, yeah, I agree that racism is idiotic, but racism is used in careful and subtle ways by very smart people, as another tool to control idiots.

I think Obama uses racism in a subtle and clever way, for example. Adolph Hitler was not stupid, though his racial hatreds were quite illogical and stupid… to the point of being silly if they weren’t so actually destructive.

Anyway, I just think it serves the troll well to show fury at him. It’s laughable that anyone would think this blog has members who equate Obama with an african spear-hunting savage… though I kinda think such a hunter is probably quite intelligent and badass.

Dustin (bb61e3) — 11/6/2009 @ 12:16 am

Dustin, some of us even deny the whole notion of “race.” I am one of those. Noah, Ham, Shem, Japheth. One man, three sons. From there, everyone. No “race” involved, just pigmentation.

John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/6/2009 @ 12:24 am

Yeah, race itself is a very dumb way to group people. Why do we even need to group people? I never understood it. But if you need to play people off eachother, it makes a lot of sense.

The people who really, really believe in this stuff… those guys are idiots. Hell, many of them probably can’t spell well. But the truly effective users of race realize, at least on some level, that they are playing a manipulation game that is based on bullshit.

There are people out there who think food stamps and health care are justifiable reparations for Slavery. They believe in permanent and expensive benefits, because their being born free is not enough. They have been programed, and when I tell them that these benefits will be paid for from our children’s pockets, they tell me to ‘build a bridge and get over it’. That’s a direct quote from a friend.

Dustin (bb61e3) — 11/6/2009 @ 12:30 am

Obama will again address this tragedy during his next round of golf.

jimboster (fe0b27) — 11/6/2009 @ 4:24 am

Is it just me or can anyone else not stand to listen to this guy? I just cannot stand the stuttering cadence this guy uses in his speech. It drives me nuts! Can’t he put together a complete thought and a complete sentence and spit it out?

And to think they made fun of Bush’s speaking ability. Wow!

comsense08 (7d14fd) — 11/6/2009 @ 5:06 am

Thank you! I watched this live on TV and it was an outrage.

The audience was cheering. He responded as if it were just another day on the WeLoveObama tour.

James (30f255) — 11/6/2009 @ 5:09 am

Maybe be out there a bit, but maybe, just maybe removing “don’t ask don’t tell” isn’t such a good thing either! It take’s a special breed to be a warrior. You can’t be one just because you want to!

This is what “liberal” political correctness leads too by preventing the military, associations, and organizations from being able to define who best fits in a position, and to use their own discretion and standards of acceptance. This guy was already on FBI radar. What more do you need?

comsense08 (7d14fd) — 11/6/2009 @ 5:21 am

Comment by comsense08 — 11/6/2009 @ 5:21 am

Absolute bullshit.

To start with, it’s actually pretty rare for folks in the army to NOT know that a guy in their unit is gay.

Second, I don’t care who you wanna screw, just that you wanna serve your country. I know plenty of gays who would be thrilled to serve their country, but can’t. That’s bullshit, and I’m ashamed that the US Military continues the practice.

Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 11/6/2009 @ 5:38 am

Beer Summit at Fort Hood.

Hasan and POTUS yuck it up.

HeavenSent (01a566) — 11/6/2009 @ 7:02 am

I was listening to his speech while in the car yesterday and honestly thought I had tuned in to the wrong thing–he kept going on about doing something for the First Americans; mentioned something about our government working with their government; and then, at the last, talked about the Fort Hood tragedy. Even then he managed to make it about himself–saying something about how this was a burden for him as commander in chief.

After this mess, I don’t know why anyone thinks he’s a great communicator–he’s shockingly insensitive and tone-deaf.

Rochf (ae9c58) — 11/6/2009 @ 7:26 am

Ag80, you miss my point; my mistake perhaps. As one who defended Prez Bush’s actions immediately following both 9/11 and Katerina, I can not rush to judge Prez Obama’s immediate comments and remain intellectually consistent. That is not to say I don’t think Obama was rather insensitive and particularly in-artful in how he initially addressed the massacre at Ft Hood – he was. But at the beginning of a crisis – and lacking hard information – leaders ought to be given a bit of latitude.

What I was trying to point out is the inevitable hypocrisy coming from those who vociferously defend Obama’s statements; they are the very same people that took such umbrage with Bush.

bains (209195) — 11/6/2009 @ 10:08 am

It kinda annoys me that Obama says ‘Army Base’. The Navy has bases, but Ft Hood is an Army Post, because the Army doesn’t have bases.

He also says ‘Congressional Medal of Honor’, thought the award is actually just the ‘Medal of Honor’. Obama is the commander of the military, and refuses to talk to the high level commanders, make decisions, or demonstrate a familiarity with the military.

Yeah, it’s not that big a deal compared to his actual command decisions, but it shows a lack of respect to be too lazy to understand the terminology. It’s kinda like calling blacks ‘Negros’ or somehow otherwise messing up the current PC jargon. He’s mastered the careful jargon in many other areas, but with the military, he clearly doesn’t care very much.

But even his tone is horrible. He knows that medal of Honor winner should be recognized in a less hucksterish way. ‘Hey Bro! Here’s a Shout out! Lucky you! Obama just threw down the verbal fist bump!’ The Medal of Honor isn’t some sort of party favor.

Knowing the president is ‘on it’ when we encounter horrible problems and tragedies helps us deal. When it comes to this shooting, Afghanistan, Gitmo, Iran, or Russia, it’s like Obama is not actually on the case.

Dustin (bb61e3) — 11/6/2009 @ 11:30 am

I was listening to the radio as the events unfolded. The talking heads were upfront about the lack of hard facts. They then announced that they were cutting to the President as he took the podium. I listened for 30 seconds and couldn’t believe my ears. I turned off the radio, feeling kicked in the gut.
My President is an ass.

Gajim (1b8aff) — 11/6/2009 @ 2:24 pm

According to NewsBusters, The One’s shout out was to Dr. Joe Medicine Crow, who The One personally awarded the Presidental Medal of Freedom on August 12, 2009, not the Medal of Honor.

jeff (31e059) — 11/6/2009 @ 7:00 pm

So Obama was recognizing his own awardee? And he still couldn’t get it right?

DRJ (dff2ca) — 11/6/2009 @ 7:05 pm

Hope and change, people, hope and change… This guys is a complete dolt. Carter/Obama needs to be defeated in 2012.

Ed (996c34) — 11/7/2009 @ 9:48 am

Mr Jacobs, like you, I want to get rid of DADT. But unlike you, I want to re-install 1970s and prior questions to determine whether a person qualifies to wear the uniform.

John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:00 am

Zevon sure sounded like Larry Reilly. You can check the ISP but maybe Larry was at his massage parlor who he posted it.

Mike K (addb13) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:05 am

That was when he posted it.

Mike K (addb13) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:06 am

It speaks volumes that the current occupant of the Oval Office not only preceeded his comments about the massacre at Fort Hood with inane chatter, but that the following day — undoubtedly as clueless about (or unashamed of) his phony, hollow compassion as ever before — said no one should jump to hasty conclusions about the rampage. IOW, a load of ass-backwards, politically-correct-BS sentiment, and just the opposite of his gut reaction to the incident involving Henry Gates and a cop in Massachusetts.

Well, we elected a “goddamn America” individual to lead this nation, and so we Americans should consider ourselves God damned.

Mark (411533) — 11/7/2009 @ 10:06 am

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