Rush Limbaugh, Plantation Owner
[Guest post by DRJ]
On MSNBC, Pulitzer Prize-winner and journalism professor Karen Hunter explained why the NFL should not let Rush Limbaugh purchase a minority interest in the St. Louis Rams football team — because he’s kind of like a plantation-owning racist:
Hunter: “I can just see the visions of plantation grandeur dancing in his head as we speak. Yeah, it doesn’t make you a racist to want to own a team. But, it does kind of with all his history question his power position over these players who make millions of dollars and his ability to be able to move them around, deny them contracts and do whatever he wants willy-nilly. It’s the ultimate power position to be an owner of an NFL team.”
Hunter also referred to and quoted racist statements Limbaugh allegedly made that Limbaugh denied saying and that appear to be fabricated. Nevertheless, Hunter says it’s “lunacy” to let Limbaugh even be considered as an NFL owner.
Is this the kind of reasoning it takes to win a Pulitzer Prize in today’s world?
— DRJ
Yes. And double points for being a “journalism” professor.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 10/13/2009 @ 9:21 pmLove the banner in the screen cap: ‘Opposition grows to Rush owning Rams.’
Grows from what, none that I’ve heard of to one j-school professor that I never heard of before now?
Puh-leeze. Why in the heck does she give a darn, anyway?
EW1(SG) (edc268) — 10/13/2009 @ 9:27 pmAnd what’s with the “millions of dollars” crack? Like Rush doesn’t make millions of dollars on his own, so is hoping to assume a position of power over players who are wealthier than he is?
Has anybody pointed out the obvious to her?
EW1(SG) (edc268) — 10/13/2009 @ 9:30 pmi don’t know about a Pulitzer, but she’s already more than qualified for a Nobel Literature prize….
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 10/13/2009 @ 9:44 pmSo, essentially, a “journalism professor” just gets to argue against a made-up quote so she can spew her nonsense on television. Did these people take the same positions when Ted Turner owned a baseball team?
JD (b57e6e) — 10/13/2009 @ 9:45 pmI’ll be honest, I do not want rush ot own a football team. I wish the MAvs weren’t owned by a political guy too. Just my personal view, but let’s all be friends when it comes to professional sports, and hope the political leaders, even El Rushbo, stay out of it as much as they can.
But my view aside… what in the hell is the left’s problem? It’s not enough that they have all the main leadership positions in all industries (including health insurance), the universities, the congress, the Court, the white house, and all international organizations? And most papers and TV journalists? They still are angry victims?
Why can’t they laugh and let Rush do what he wants? They won the last election. Big time. They have a lot of voices in media. Big Time. Why is the left so damn intolerant of Rush and Fox News? They don’t realize that it’s OK to have different opinions? This MSNBC lady knows damn well those quotes were fake. Why do that? If the right did that to her, she would write 100 books about it and cry for a million years. It’s so ridiculous how scared these people are, when they have so much power in comparison.
Good grief. It’s like Rush said on the Today show: don’t give people the power to offend you. Rush must have learned this lesson two ways… on the one hand, he’s got thick skin… on the other, he knows exactly how to get under the left’s skin and make hundreds of millions of dollars off the exposure.
It’s so sad that this country is rapidly losing its tolerance for dissent. Rush has been huge for over a decade, and this honestly is a dramatic escalation, going right to the Oval Office, in the efforts to condemn this guy… who is guilty of freely speaking.
Dustin (bb61e3) — 10/13/2009 @ 9:51 pmShe’s a racist bitch. On the tv at least anyway.
Jeffy Immelt’s MSNBC is desperate. This hoochie isn’t going to help.
happyfeet (f62c43) — 10/13/2009 @ 9:53 pmI just can not believe the left on this. I read a comment on another blog that suggested that one one day all of those offended by what is going on against Rush just not watch or go to a game.
LYNNDH (8d8b19) — 10/13/2009 @ 10:04 pmDid you read her Wikipedia entry? She’s a joke.
“She has published “Why Black Men Love White Women,” “Faith Under Fire,” “Love On A Two-Way Street,” “Recipes for a Good Life,” with Patti Labelle and epic griotsong “The Children of Children Keep Coming,” with Wall Street pioneer Russell L. Goings.”
And she’s not been a prof. anywhere other than Hunter and NYU. Sad, really.
Kate (1d4ed6) — 10/13/2009 @ 10:06 pmLynndh, that is a well conceived plan, but if you’re offended by this, you’re already sick and tired of the way the NFL exists today.
Rampant drugs, crimes, tolerance for animal torture, etc. Anything for a buck. If you’re still watching the NFL, you are unlikely to be the type to get outraged into tuning out. Unlike me… I was gone ages ago.
Thank goodness for the NCAA. Anything the NFL puts on that is amazing I can catch on youtube. If I want a good suspenseful game, there’s usually at least two good NCAA games on each week.
Dustin (bb61e3) — 10/13/2009 @ 10:07 pmSo is Hunter suggesting that Rush just shouldn’t hire any black football players? Because that does seem to be where her argument is going.
Sean P (50f5d9) — 10/13/2009 @ 10:35 pmWell, if she referred to or used that quote that has been shown to be a fabrication I guess she’ll be on the apology list (or the lose all her assets list). Hmm, be nice to have a reel of all the coming apologies.
scr_north (697e70) — 10/13/2009 @ 11:02 pmOh, hell, nitwits like her don’t give a damn about race or racism. They only give a damn about nuturing (and protecting and cherishing) their and other people’s leftist emotions. The phony-ass emotions of “my liberalism makes me so wonderful, so tolerant, so compassionate, so sophisticated, so generous, so civilized!”
I have no doubt the Karen Hunters of America would lose a lot of their enthusiasm for yelping about racism and discrimination if 90% of black, Latino and non-white or non-Anglo society suddenly became centrist to rightwing instead of cluelessly, foolishly liberal.
Mark (411533) — 10/13/2009 @ 11:03 pmSo, if AL Sharpton wanted to own a footbal team, would it empowerment and a success story, or him wanting to control and subjugate bunch of over-paid white players? Hmm?
If Keith Olberman was going to buy the team, would this shrew be spouting the same line? I think we know the answer to both questions, don’t we?
Steve B (5eacf6) — 10/13/2009 @ 11:52 pmRoger Goodell is against Rush owning a team, the owners are against it, the players don’t want it, the sports media doesn’t want it, end of story — there’s no way in hell he’ll own an NFL team. Conservatives pick the oddest battles sometimes. 🙂
What organization in its right mind wants a manager that will annoy the other managers; anger the labor; divide the fans; and hurt the brand? For Rush to get his supposed wish, owners would have to vote him in. He is at minimum a race-baiter; owners will not want such a vote attached to their name.
Witness just the vitriol he generates on this blog — and most people here are in agreement! The NFL doesn’t need that crap. People just want to see the games.
And why would Rush even want to preside over what he called Bloods and Crips anyway? Riddle me that?
I’ve heard some say this is just an El Rushbo publicity stunt to wind up on the cover of Sports Illustrated and increase his already considerable viewership. Hey, there’s no such thing as bad publicity, and he has again succeeded in getting everyone to talk about him. The (one-time) big man is brilliant at that.
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:04 amWhat a maroon that Myron. And dishonest as usual.
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:06 amSteve B, I don’t know about this “shrew” or this “hoochie,” as y’all have taken to calling this Pulitzer-winning, educated, African-American woman*, but I doubt the NFL would let Sharpton or Olbermann have a team. Same reasons: Don’t need the political drama.
*Wasn’t it this very blog where people were angry over Olbermann’s characterization of Michelle Malkin?
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:09 amI wanted to share this before I go to bed. He’s brilliant, this one.
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happyfeet (f62c43) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:13 amI would think that the owners will be reluctant to openly criticize someone who talks to 20-Million+ people every week.
AD - RtR/OS! (48d3c8) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:17 amPerhaps someone should take Roger Goodell aside and ‘splain some things to him –
like how there’s this radio guy who is a huge pro-football fan and lives and dies with the Steelers,
and during the season devotes inordinate amounts of his nationally syndicated, 3-hour/day – 5-day/week radio show to talking about PRO football.
Is this someone that Roger Goodell, and the owners of the NFL really want to piss off?
John Hitchock: Dishonest? Goodell, some owners, and several players have come out against Rush owning a team, even though it’s not even clear the Rams will be sold.
Forward me a list of NFL people in support of the move.
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:17 amhappyfeet: The blog pet. Good to hear from you.
Thanks for that last bit of happy nonsense before you’re off to your doghouse and la-la land. You’re a cutie!
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:19 amThere’s your dishonesty, part overt and part covert.
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:21 amAnd I will call people like you out for your false premises in your questions, like you just did.
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:23 amAD: Goodell does not fear Rush. He’s not the Republican Party.
You might be surprised to learn that Rush does not have the only hot media property around. I suspect the NFL would put its numbers and fan base up against Rush’s any day of the week, seeing as how their product appeals to all segments of society and all demographics.
You may have heard of this little thing called the Super Bowl?
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:24 amGoodnight, Myron. Here is the song for you to learn and sing. It will help you be more happier.
happyfeet (f62c43) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:25 amHitchcock: What’s dishonest?
My opinion he’s a race-baiter? He refers to NFL players, most of whom are black, as Bloods and Crips. You’re aware those are two mostly black gangs, right?
He crafts a song, “Barack the Magic Negro.” You’re aware negro refers to blacks, right?
He says Donovan McNabb, one of the league’s best QBs, who carried his team to five NFC championships and one Super Bowl, is overrated b/c he’s black?
That’s not race-baiting? If you don’t think so, you’re just thick. Sorry. I bet you don’t think Glenn Beck’s a race-baiter, either.
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:27 amMyron FYI, the term “Magic Negroe” was first used by a LAT political writer…Please try to keep up.
AD - RtR/OS! (48d3c8) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:29 amFox sports columnist Jason Whitlock opined that Rush is pulling off a publicity stunt:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10210084/Goodell-should-say-no-to-Limbaugh
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:30 amLike I said, what a maroon that Myron. He really needs to stay over at Sadly, No!
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:31 amMyron,
Have you read this article by David E.? (More here.)
DRJ (7fbae6) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:32 am…and re McNab…
AD - RtR/OS! (48d3c8) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:33 amHe said that the sportwriters didn’t criticize McNab’s performance (which at the time truly stunk) because they were reluctant to criticize a Black QB. And IIRC he cited anonymous sources on that too. Plus, it cost him an ESPN gig (or was that Monday-Nite Football?), and he said: So be it, what I said was the truth!
happyfeet: I didn’t even bother to go to the link. I’m sure it was very — something. Anyway, I’m sure it meant something to you.
Nigh-night. (Imagine I just gave you a virtual doggie biscuit, and may you dream of fire hydrants, my little pup.)
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:33 amAD: What was Rush’s evidence for that statement about McNabb? It was racially charged nonsense from left field (or rather right field). Sports writers have never had a reputation for being soft on black quarterbacks. I remember how Vick was covered BEFORE the dogfighting. Every other column was how he should be switched to running back.
Rush was speaking off the cuff and mistakenly spoke from the heart. He obviously had, and perhaps still has, some kind of problem.
I consider it sweet that Goodell mentioned the McNabb statement specifically in giving Rush the Heisman (I know, that’s college).
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:37 amDRJ…Thanks for the link, I had forgotten that it was our very own DE who coined that phrase.
AD - RtR/OS! (48d3c8) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:40 amIt probably just sails right over Myron’s head that Rush got a two-fer on that parady song (or maybe even a three-fer)…
He stuck it to Teh One for his pretentiousnous; he stuck it to Al Sharpton for his race-baiting; and he gave a good dose to the LAT (and DE), too.
DRJ: Yes, I know about the original article. But it’s the same idea behind the reality that, just b/c say, Lil Wayne says the n-word, does not mean everyone can say the same word and expect no backlash (hello Michael Richards).
In your second link notice what David E himself said about the Rush parody:
Ehrenstein responded to the latest controversy on his blog, attacking Republicans for still playing the song and passing it along as Christmas gifts.
“As everyone knows Whites feel no guilt about America’s racist history whatsoever,” Ehrenstein wrote. “All they care about is the appearance of politesse — the slimy veneer of “good manners.”
“Clearly the Rep8blican party (racist to its very core) is “split” over what to do in the wake of having lost so much political capital.”
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:43 amMyron, as I remember it (and it was a long time ago) Rush cited chapter and verse how certain sportswriters on the NFL beat had crucified other QB’s for performance stats that were BETTER than McNab’s, of which they mentioned nary a peep.
AD - RtR/OS! (48d3c8) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:44 amYou know, it boils down to the Duck Theory:
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, there’s a damn good chance that it’s a ….ing duck!
DE is a very thin-skinned fellow, and probably got flayed by his fellows at the Press Club for handing Rush such a blunderbus to wield against one of their chosen.
AD - RtR/OS! (48d3c8) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:46 amI already covered that “racist Republican” bovine byproduct. Lots of facts in there.
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:47 amAnd (citing your quotes of DE) once again, someone blames Rush for what Republicans do.
AD - RtR/OS! (48d3c8) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:49 amRush is not the leader of the Republican Party.
Is he even a REGISTERED Republican?
Curious minds want to know.
Now that right there is indeed racist.
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:51 amYou know, Myron, David Ehrenstein is quite the character. He sees racism wherever he goes, but he himself has no trouble at all assigning negative characteristics to entire groups of people based on…well…race.
And he perceives no irony with this shameful hypocrisy. In a good mood, he will trot out some foreign film to defend this bizarreness. In a bad mood, he will shriek how any questioning of his own statements is…well…racism. Gosh, where have I heard that before? And he gets deeply nasty from there.
You demonstrate his venom and resentment with your own quoting of the man:
Hmm. Well, I am glad that DE feels he can speak for all “White” people. I know he doesn’t like it when anyone who lacks melanin speaks for “Black” people.
But you see, he is a victim, so it is all different. It’s more Marcuse-ian nonsense.
Racism is racism. And I don’t see how more racism here and now solves or salves racism in the past.
Who knew that electing a “Black” man to President would simply prove that nasty old “White” people are every bit as racist as we have ever been?
But that is part of racialism: to define everyone by the melanin content of their skins.
See how the healing has begun?
Eric Blair (8484db) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:54 amAD: I don’t remember the chapter and verse citing, but you’re right, it was a long time ago. I did a cursory search on Google, but all the quotes I found pick up with:
“I think what we’ve had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn’t deserve. The defense carried this team.”
There are all sorts of reasons sports writers may like one player over another. My brother always said the media had an almost unnatural love for Brett Favre (until he started doing that retire/unretire thing, anyway). Is it b/c he’s white? No. They like his home-spun gutsiness and were willing to completely overlook his addiction. Is Barry Bonds hated by the media b/c he’s black? No. They don’t like his surliness, and his using illegal substances will always be more despicable than other people’s minds than say, Roger Clemens’ use.
There was simply no justification for Rush to casually fling out the race card. But again, I think he was just speaking what was in his heart.
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 12:58 amEric Blair: Don’t try to put this person’s views onto me. I don’t know anything about him.
I simply quoted him to show that, if his piece is to be used as somehow justifying Rush’s racialized parody, it should also be acknowledged that he himself rejects that interpretation.
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 1:01 amBTW, I don’t believe for a second that no whites feel any guilt about America’s racist history. I think white guilt has driven many actions toward African-Americans over the years, both positive and negative.
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 1:03 amOn that night, I’m off to bed myself. It’s very late, or rather early, here in the east.
Myron (712b1e) — 10/14/2009 @ 1:04 amMy attitude, and this applies to Rush Limbaugh, is that when you quote good old DE, you get all of DE, including all the foul hatred you will find on his website.
Eric Blair (8484db) — 10/14/2009 @ 1:29 amRiddle me this, Myron: If Rush succeeds in becoming an owner, the very same people (Karen Hunter included) that are crying “racist” now will most likely demand that he have a black starting quarterback in order to “prove” his racially harmonious bonifides.
Thereby living out the exact scenario that Rush alleged happened in Philly.
Icy Texan (6fdd44) — 10/14/2009 @ 1:42 amRush illustrates how ridiculous race labels are, and is accused of being a race baiter by people who realize that if they take his argument at face value, they lose their race baiting power.
It’s so clear that these people claiming Rush ‘racializes’ are liars. It’s amusing when they get angry when you make the slightest assumption about their views. ‘don’t put words in my mouth’ they cry in this thread. But of course, they have completely flipped Rush’s argument on its head in order to burn some straw.
I don’t think Rush would mind a black QB for a second. Rush seems to hire and promote blacks all the time if they are the best choice. And there’s no reason why they wouldn’t be. Only a person demanding Rush hire a black, or a school admit a black, thinks blacks are inferior.
If Rush hired a black QB or coach or anyone else, that person would have proved to the country that they are, indeed, a badass. Not an AA hire. The real deal. It’s kinda like how my professor told my class that if they want to prove they are not AA softies, they should try to get a clerkship with a hardcore circuit judge. No one thinks successful clerks are AA hires.
Dustin (bb61e3) — 10/14/2009 @ 1:49 amIf people would only listen to Rush they might not like what he says but they won’t be able to call him racist. Rush entertains with strong conservative values.
krusher (6f6e76) — 10/14/2009 @ 1:52 amOf course, this smirking jerk and the rest of them will retract in some tiny way. Probably a 2 am lackey snarking ‘well, we are sorry IF we are mistaken and cannot prove he said this’.
These same people don’t understand why their little news organizations are out of money and laying off employees. Why is NBC for sale? You alienate so many people with this crap. Not just the indignant boycotter, but the regular dude who wants to enjoy watching TV, but is insulted every time he gives it a try.
What an interesting road we took to ‘content of character, not color of skin’. Instead of reasoning through it, as MLK wanted, we just plain got tired of hearing the same lies over and over.
Dustin (bb61e3) — 10/14/2009 @ 2:01 amWith generations of fatherless black families on welfare, I don’t think Limbaugh is the problem.
He is trying to close down the plantation.
Amphipolis (b120ce) — 10/14/2009 @ 5:22 amAnother affirmative action character heard from….when will it be over?
J (2946f2) — 10/14/2009 @ 5:44 amI would go as far as to say that this plantation thing is actually racist itself.
A.W. (e7d72e) — 10/14/2009 @ 5:53 amI think Myron ought to be banned for a month. Maybe that would wake him up or he’d be so starved for attention that he’d go elsewhere and get banned over and over again.
Let’s do the Alinsky and apply the standards of the left to the left.
PCD (1d8b6d) — 10/14/2009 @ 6:23 amto calling this Pulitzer-winning
I wonder if Myron has ever heard of Walter Duranty – based on his widespread ignorance of history, I vote a resounding “no.” Even more hilarious was his use of a DE – sourced song on Rush’s show. But no, you can’t ascribe anything else about DE to our boy Myron; and of course he knew exactly who DE was – right, Myron?
Dmac (5ddc52) — 10/14/2009 @ 6:58 amDE is a very thin-skinned fellow, and probably got flayed by his fellows at the Press Club for handing Rush such a blunderbus to wield against one of their chosen.
I don’t think any of his peers could lay a glove on DE, wrong-headed as he can be. One, DE doesn’t back down. Two, the press is packed with guilty white liberals who wouldn’t dare challenged the melanin-enhanced (as long as they’re not conservatives).
Rush entertains with strong conservative values.
He’s also got some strong Libertarian values, as demonstrated by his praise of Ayn Rand.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 10/14/2009 @ 7:16 amThere have also been some fairly recent Pulitzer stinkers: Chuck Philips and Michael Hiltzik.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 10/14/2009 @ 7:23 amMyron – you ignore the fact that Bonds’ drug use is fairly well proven and the allegations against Clemens are barely believable.
Have Blue (854a6e) — 10/14/2009 @ 7:29 amAppearance is everything in the Race Baiting game, baby.
mojo (8096f2) — 10/14/2009 @ 7:53 amRush Limbaugh is no racist. Nooooooooo. He only sounds like one and looks like one. Nothing more.
The Emperor (1b037c) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:26 am^the commenter above excuses adults for raping 13 – year old children.
Dmac (5ddc52) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:29 amDmac, I posted Emperor’s Hit Parade on the other thread. The mask is off, you notice.
Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:30 amComment by J — 10/14/2009 @ 5:44 am
The Emperor (1b037c) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:33 amSo when a minority makes some progress and achieves some success, you attribute it to Affirmative Action. Riiiiigghht!! I think you are a racist. Apart from being an a**hole!
My statement is not a very intellectual one. It’s more of a moral thing. Come on. Who really cares what happened thirty two yeas ago? The girl in question should be what? 45 years by now? The man lost his wife violently. A lot of stuff has happened since then. Besides he has produced some really nice works. I am sure the victim may have moved on beyond this. So should we. We all make mistakes.
Comment by The Emperor — 10/11/2009 @ 4:22 pm
Dmac (5ddc52) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:34 am^ the commenter quoted above excuses adults for raping 13 – year old children.
Dmac (5ddc52) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:35 amHey, I like all the cussing Emperor is doing! If he keeps it up, he’ll get banned. Which would be great.
My second choice is that he starts behaving like a civil and mature adult.
Either is fine with me.
Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:36 amComment by Dmac — 10/14/2009 @ 8:29 am
The Emperor (1b037c) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:38 am^
The commenter above wears a dress at home and a g-string to work.
The Emperor, since you claim that Rush sounds like a racist, lets see you quote a racist comment of his.
Without inventing it from whole cloth as his critics keep getting caught doing.
Or are you just a potty-mouth incapable of backing up any of your stupid opinions? As we long ago concluded.
SPQR (26be8b) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:42 amNo Emperor, liberals attribute that achievement to Affirmative Action by claiming that the achievement would have been impossible with out Affirmative Action.
Have Blue (854a6e) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:43 amAnd great job with your maturity, Emperor!
What was you wrote a while back? Oh, that’s right: you bring balance and civility to this comments section!
Heck, you got Dana annoyed with you, as well as NOYK. Those two incidents should make you take a long look at your own actions.
Unless you are only posting here to be a jerk, that is.
Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:52 amHeck, SPQR, maybe Emperor worked right next to you-know-who and got to smell Rush’s body odor?
Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:52 amThe leftists never miss a chance to squeal RACIST, even if they have to make sh*t up. It is really rather pathetic.
JD (cfbd15) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:00 amComment by Eric Blair — 10/14/2009 @ 8:52 am
i>Those two incidents should make you take a long look at your own actions.
I took a loooooooooooooong, haaaaaaaaarrd look at it and suddenly forgot what or why it was I was looking at it. Does that happen to you sometimes?
The Emperor (1b037c) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:01 amNo, The Emperor.
It doesn’t. But then, I don’t own a bong.
SPQR (26be8b) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:03 amAnd again, look at how mature and grown up this person is, folks. A serious commenter, who quotes the Bible and says that millions of people agree with her or him that what Polanski did was not child rape.
Then, this person jokes about it.
A great person to have around!
Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:09 amLovey never misses an opportunity to make a teen-age sex joke. Lovey, whatever you do, do it somewhere else. (Oh, look! I said “do do”! giggle snort giggle)
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:12 amOh, and “Emperor”?
You just made a joke about Dana and NOYK’s attempts to engage you politely and fairly, without any kind of attack. Those are two of the fairest, kindest people posting here. Good job!
That also shows your generally low personality. The mask is off, and all your silly claims to wit and fairness and being a “good” person (love those allusions to how much of a good Christian you are, by the way) are for nothing. Your own actions have shown you for what you are.
You need to think about what you are doing. Unless, of course, you are a just a childish person playing games on the internet.
Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:13 amI took a loooooooooooooong, haaaaaaaaarrd look at it and suddenly forgot what or why it was I was looking at it. Does that happen to you sometimes?
“My statement is not a very intellectual one. It’s more of a moral thing. Come on. Who really cares what happened thirty two yeas ago? The girl in question should be what? 45 years by now? The man lost his wife violently. A lot of stuff has happened since then. Besides he has produced some really nice works. I am sure the victim may have moved on beyond this. So should we. We all make mistakes.
Comment by The Emperor — 10/11/2009 @ 4:22 pm
I guess when a person makes excuses for adults raping children then their memory of it probably gets pushed down into their false consciousness as quickly as possible.
Dmac (5ddc52) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:18 amThe Emperor, since you claim that Rush sounds like a racist, lets see you quote a racist comment of his.
Without inventing it from whole cloth as his critics keep getting caught doing.
SPQR
Here you go.
The Emperor (1b037c) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:19 amThe Empty Roar
> Rush Limbaugh is no racist. Nooooooooo. He only sounds like one…
Presuming you mean he said racist things, um, like what?
> and looks like one.
Sorry, how exactly does a person “look like a racist?” I mean to the best of my knowledge Rush has never worn the official uniforms of racist bastards—i.e. never wore a white hood or a swastika. Hell, he never even wore a “plantation style suit” like you always see the Colonel from KFC wearing. So how exactly does he “look like a racist” to you? Care to explain yourself?
> So when a minority makes some progress and achieves some success, you attribute it to Affirmative Action. Riiiiigghht!! I think you are a racist.
Affirmative action does exist. I have indeed benefitted from something you might call affirmative action and I see a place for justified affirmative action, although I am not going to get very deep into the delineation between justified and unjustified affirmative action. But I also know for a fact that sometimes it is based on the ugliest paternalism which writes off the possibility of minorities succeeding on their own merits. The natural by-product of the existence of affirmative action are accusations that those in categories likely to benefit from affirmative action, fairly or unfairly, received such special treatment. I have known several high-achieving African Americans, for instance, who are sick and tired of being accused of being affirmative action beneficiaries. But so long as affirmative action exists, even false accusations are inevitable. The reality that minorities have to “prove themselves” to a degree non-minorities don’t, is just a fact of life and is perpetuated by affirmative action. It breaks your heart, but it seems unavoidable.
But an accusation of affirmative action is not in and of itself racist. In the case of this woman, Karen Hunter, she is coming off as more or less a race hustler, which then makes you wonder how else she has traded on her race. And her actual commentary is less than impressive. Given those factors, it is perfectly rational to wonder if she got some kind of special treatment, including affirmative action.
A.W. (b1db52) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:23 amHey, Emperor, I love quotes, too!
How about your own, defending Polanski against the charge of child rape, then claiming you never said that, and then going on to claim that Bible says that rape only applies when the victim is screaming and resisting?
And that leaves out all your childish insults.
Shall we start playing the quote game? I think you have far more to worry about than Rush!
Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:31 am79, Lovey, you are a liar quoting liars. Citing Media Matters proves you spew lies and believe forged documents, made up quotes, and in general being totally dishonest is a legitimate way of winning an argument.
Don’t ever meet me in person. I’ll render you even more useless in bed than your idol, Olberdouche.
PCD (1d8b6d) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:39 amThe NFL will take Michael Vick back but Rush is too controversial or whatever to buy a team, along with the rest of his group? So, the NFL can forgive animal abusers but not conversatives?
Rochf (ae9c58) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:39 amThe Empty Roar
Quoting the huffing-and-puffington post is not proof of anything. and the links were in turn to media matters and fair, which are known liars. care to cite a reliable source?
Though to your credit, it is not you making things up. it is you citing other people known to make thinges up.
A.W. (b1db52) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:43 amThe Emperor, fail. That article is full of made-up quotes sourced to vandalized Wiki pages.
You really are an utter failure.
SPQR (26be8b) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:52 amHere you go.
Comment by The Emperor — 10/14/2009 @ 9:19 am
While spoken with a bit of flippancy, his comments are accurate. They describe a variation of all the liberals throughout the Western World who find themselves tiptoeing around ultra-rightist sentiments emanating from fanatics in the world of Islam. Why? Because such fanaticism is associated with non-Western, non-Euro-white peoples and societies.
Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, but the inability of liberals to judge people and situations correctly and accurately — or, worse, to transpose good and bad — is something I’ve observed time and time again (Hi, former president of Honduras! Hi, Roman Polanski! Hi, Fidel Castro! Hi, Al Sharpton! Hi, Jeremiah Wright! Hi, Mr. & Mrs. “meaning-of-is-is,” “sniper-fire” Clinton! Hi, President Ass-backwards Obama!).
Mark (411533) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:57 amDon’t ever meet me in person. I’ll render you even more useless in bed than your idol, Olberdouche.
Comment by PCD — 10/14/2009 @ 9:39 am
The Emperor (1b037c) — 10/14/2009 @ 10:36 amYou just did not say that pisofshit!
“In bed”? Sorry I am not a fag like you. And if you are a she, I bet you will be one saggy, washed up, dried tits, smelly b*tch. To which I will say “No thanks.”
The Emperor says that Rush looks like a racist. What’s that mean? That whites are inherently evil?
The only bigot in here is Emperor, who is a terrific troll.
comment 87 shows that he’s quite a woman hater and a gay basher.
Democrats are often very bigoted, and they become committed partisans in a pathetic attempt to atone for their vicious hate.
Dustin (bb61e3) — 10/14/2009 @ 2:43 pmCan we get some cleanup in this aisle. The Emperor just beshat his pants again.
SPQR (26be8b) — 10/14/2009 @ 2:46 pmGenocide in Africa…
AD - RtR/OS! (12661a) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:00 pmIs William Jefferson Clinton a racist due to his refusal in intervene in the genocide that happened in Ruanda/Burundi on his watch?
Or, was that different because it was one tribe of Blacks killing another tribe of Blacks?
But then, the Jewish Genocide was Whites killing Whites!
Why does this have to be so complicated?
Limbaugh to be dropped from St. Louis Rams bid: report:
LOS ANGELES, Oct 14, 2009 (AFP) – The group bidding to purchase the St. Louis Rams of the National Football League is prepared to do so without the financial backing of Rush Limbaugh, ESPN reported on Wednesday.
The conservative American radio talk show host Limbaugh is expected to be dropped as a minority member of the group which also includes New York business tycoon Dave Checketts, who already owns a National Hockey League franchise.
Any sale to the Checketts/Limbaugh group must be approved by three-quarters of the NFL’s 32 teams and it has already been met with opposition from players such as Donovan McNabb.
ESPN said according to its sources Checketts now realizes that if he is to be successful he has to drop Limbaugh.
Speaking on his syndicated radio show on Wednesday, Limbaugh still held out hope.
“I am not even thinking of exiting,” Limbaugh was reported by ESPN as saying. “I am not a caver.” -source, http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:03 pmDCSCA, I am not surprised. When this kind of shit is thrown out there, it costs the potential bid a lot of money. I think it’s worth fighting… after all, it’s been proven that Rush is the victim of a coordinated and extremely unfair attack. But it’s not my money on the line.
If the NFL really is not a place that Conservatives are welcome, I understand and will not patronize them. That’s what this is about, of course. Is Rush Limbaugh welcome, or are those who horribly lie about nice guys like Rush welcome? You can’t have them both, NFL.
Dustin (bb61e3) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:10 pm#92- He’s a victim of himself. The NFL doesn’t need his baggage.
DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:14 pmIMP is back. Pity. Apparently his orderlies fell asleep on the job.
JD (cc3aa7) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:16 pmThe NFL “baggage” includes felons, spouse abusers, a murderer of dogs, etc., but having conservative opinions … well, that’s beyond the pale.
The International Man of Parody parodies himself again.
SPQR (26be8b) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:19 pmDCSCA, it’s not unusual for the left to tell us who is a full human being and who is not. But Rush did not say many of the things that the left is accusing him of saying. Not that the out of context attacks were fair, but these are quite obviously lies… they are coordinated, and these attacks come in part from elected members of our government.
Saying he is a victim of himself is completely horrible, and not surprising.
The NFL is either a place that welcomes Rush and people like him… which is a hell of a lot of people. Or it welcomes those who make up ridiculous smears against those the left deems not fully human.
Rush is every bit a person. He deserves the same level of respect any other person does. The fact that he has a great show that has a philosophical message that is counter to the government and the corrupt wealthy people who twist it against us is irrelevant.
Dustin (bb61e3) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:20 pmDCSCA celebrates McCarthyism.
SPQR (26be8b) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:24 pmYou just did not say that pisofshit!
“In bed”? Sorry I am not a fag like you. And if you are a she, I bet you will be one saggy, washed up, dried tits, smelly b*tch. To which I will say “No thanks.”
Lovey/Empy, boldly going even lower and getting more repulsive with each vile comment.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (70fb62) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:32 pmLinking DuckCrap to McCarthyism is a diservice to TailGunner Joe.
AD - RtR/OS! (12661a) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:32 pmBrother Bradley – I do not think we have yet to scratch the depths to which this one will go.
JD (cc3aa7) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:37 pmBreaking News!!!
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:45 pmRush Limbaugh dropped from RAMs bid.
Racism pays.
There are at least two words, I believe, in the profane comment above which usually merit a banning warning: one used when addressed to women, and one when addressed to a gay.
On another thread we have an admission – twice, not once – that the same person finds hearing details of a child rape sexually stimulating.
Brother Bradley – I do not think we have yet to scratch the depths to which this one will go.
Comment by JD — 10/14/2009 @ 3:37 pm
IMO we won’t need to for too much longer.
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:45 pmI don’t know, NOYK. I think that this character is now trying to get banned. Or is in need of some kind of medication.
Really, really creepy.
Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:49 pmI don’t know, NOYK. I think that this character is now trying to get banned.
Comment by Eric Blair — 10/14/2009 @ 3:49 pm
Agreed. And IMO he wants as much attention as possible before it happens. I’m willing to give it to him if it will expedite the process.
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:54 pmlovie/chimperor is not trying to get banned. He/she/it is simply displaying its true colors, and it loathesome lack of a soul.
JD (cc3aa7) — 10/14/2009 @ 3:59 pmPhony racist Limbaugh quotes may lead to legal action.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (70fb62) — 10/14/2009 @ 4:03 pmlovie/chimperor is not trying to get banned. He/she/it is simply displaying its true colors, and it loathesome lack of a soul.
Comment by JD — 10/14/2009 @ 3:59 pm
You could be right about his wanting to stay, and it certainly wasn’t a surprise (given his defense of Polanski) that he finds hearing about child rape stimulating, but was a surprise to hear him admit to it so readily.
IMO the recent admissions and today’s gratuitous slurs (above) combined with his apparent inability to stop digging, will lead to his banning whether or not he wants it.
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 10/14/2009 @ 4:10 pmLimbaugh dropped by group bidding for Rams
Posted: October 14th, 2009 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Dave Checketts, DeMaurice Smith, Donovan McNabb, Rush Limbaugh, St. Louis Rams
The group that will try to buy the Rams plans to drop Rush Limbaugh, a source with knowledge of the situation told NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora.
Limbaugh, the conservative radio host, was supposed to be a minority part of a group led by St. Louis Blues owner Dave Checketts, but his inclusion has drawn criticism. Colts owner Jim Irsay said Tuesday that he wouldn’t vote for Limbaugh, who has made controversial comments about Eagles QB Donovan McNabb and other African-Americans. Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith also have spoken out against Limbaugh.
The current owners of the Rams might end up not selling, but they will go through the process of assessing interest in the team.
Update: Checketts released a statement confirming that Limbaugh has been dropped from the group. “It has become clear that his involvement in our group has become a complication and a distraction to our intentions, endangering our bid to keep the team in St. Louis,” the statement read. “As such, we have decided to move forward without him and hope it will eventually lead us to a successful conclusion.”
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 10/14/2009 @ 4:10 pmHere you go.
Comment by The Emperor —
I actually looked and found nothing but “quotes” from the 1970s when Limbaugh may or may not have had a radio show. This is really sick.
MIke K (187f3b) — 10/14/2009 @ 4:17 pmComment by no one you know — 10/14/2009 @ 4:10 pm.
noyk, since you all about decency and candor, read this comment by pcd and tell me what think:
Don’t ever meet me in person. I’ll render you even more useless in bed than your idol, Olberdouche.
Comment by PCD — 10/14/2009 @ 9:39 am
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 10/14/2009 @ 4:21 pmIf you are such a fair and just person, why haven’t you called him out for it?
As for Jim Irsay, his father is #10 in the sports scandals of all time.
10. Robert Irsay
In the middle of the night of March 29, 1984, Irsay, the owner of the Baltimore Colts, got his moving vans going, heading out under cover of darkness to move the city’s beloved franchise to Indianapolis. Thirty-one years of good mutual history, undone by a millionaire’s quest for yet more money, tore at the soul of the city. “It’s unbelievable, the callousness of this man,” said one fan. “Just because he has a couple of bucks, he can tear a whole city down on his whims.” Yep. That¹s what villains do.
Yes, I agree that Rush doesn’t belong in that group.
MIke K (187f3b) — 10/14/2009 @ 4:23 pmI feel for the Baltimore fans, but lurvs my Colts nonetheless.
JD (cc3aa7) — 10/14/2009 @ 4:26 pmEmperor, you already “lost” everyone’s sympathy by your prior statements. I don’t know if you were drunk, thoughtless, or deluded. Or are just being a jerk.
But you have lost anything like respect from almost anyone here. And I cannot wait to see you up the ante and get your perverse self tossed off this site. Because you will manage it, all on your own.
With your own words, and attitude, and basic sickness of soul.
Eric Blair (0b61b2) — 10/14/2009 @ 4:28 pmBy a show of hands, who got to meet and shake hands with Ernie Banks today?
Raises hand
😉
JD (70688e) — 10/14/2009 @ 4:36 pmComment by Eric Blair — 10/14/2009 @ 4:28 pm
In other words you agree that the comment I was responding to was offensive and disgusting but you are not going to condemn it because you have a problem with me. Nice. Fair enough.
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 10/14/2009 @ 4:37 pmI think it was offensive, and uncalled for.
But don’t go getting the vapors when you are being an apologist for a child assrapist and refer to the transcript of the victim’s testimony as disturbing and stimulating.
JD (70688e) — 10/14/2009 @ 4:40 pmI did too. 🙂
MIke K (187f3b) — 10/14/2009 @ 5:42 pmNot that your company was not great, Mike K, it was. Meeting a living legend, and a boyhood idol just made it that much better.
Raises hand, again 😉
JD (5e5cad) — 10/14/2009 @ 5:56 pmNo, Emperor. You keep trying to shift blame around, which fits your little tantrum of vulgar immaturity. You are responsible for what you post.
I object to your repeated sick statements and juvenile behavior. You are just playing troll games. If you were serious and honorable, you would not respond to slights with the displays you have here.
The recent sex stuff (and your bizarre return to religious tropes after your vulgarities and juvenile displays) just shows you for what you are. You could be the person you claim to be. But instead you just dig yourself deeper into vileness.
You can’t help yourself. You will soon go too far, and get banned. It will be your fault entirely, and make this blog a far nicer place. I don’t object to your politics at all. I object to your essential creepiness.
Go speak to your pastor. I think you need help.
Eric Blair (19728f) — 10/14/2009 @ 6:24 pmTo return to the topic, Mark Steyn discusses how brazenly Rush’s attackers lie about the fake quotes.
Shame that Charles Johnson went nuts, this kind of forgery in the media used to be his forte.
SPQR (26be8b) — 10/14/2009 @ 6:34 pmI wish I had been there to meet all three of you — JD, Mike K and Ernie Banks.
DRJ (7fbae6) — 10/14/2009 @ 6:43 pmApropos of nothing, I was watching TV and a commercial came on with a snippet of a song I like.
It’s a fun little pop ditty. And it had a good video that went with it.
So, I went over to youtube to watch it. I haven’t seen it in a while. It somehow seems appropriate now. And the genius of it is that any one can take it and make it fit into their own perspective.
Oh, yeah. The song is “Brand New Day” by Sting.
I’m going to smile every time I see that commercial from now on, because Sting’s cash register gets to ka-ching every time it airs. It’s kind of like a capitalist version of Clarence getting his wings in “It’s a Wonderful Life.”
What’s my point? There’s no real point. I just like the song and the video.
Ag80 (2a7a2a) — 10/14/2009 @ 6:46 pmIf you are such a fair and just person, why haven’t you called him out for it?
Comment by The Emperor — 10/14/2009 @ 4:21 pm
My answer to you earlier tonight on another thread will serve as my direct reply to you, as I consider this another attempt to suck me into conversation with someone whom child rape stimulates and who defends those who commit it. But so that you may understand, am going to repeat two replies to you with which I fully agree:
Emperor, you already “lost” everyone’s sympathy by your prior statements. I don’t know if you were drunk, thoughtless, or deluded. Or are just being a jerk.
But you have lost anything like respect from almost anyone here…
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 10/14/2009 @ 6:48 pmComment by Eric Blair — 10/14/2009 @ 4:28 pm
Comment by SPQR — 10/14/2009 @ 6:34 pm
Mark Steyn’s always awesome. Hope Rush wins a suit against these people; just maybe they’d think twice before smearing people as racists again. I know a very liberal 80 year old nun (!) who has never heard Rush who got told by someone he “hates the black race” and just put this out there in conversation as fact.
Challenged her as nicely as I could (being as angry as I was) for a quote, saying I’d listened on and off for years and heard only the opposite, and she started sputtering. Haven’t heard any liberal-tinged statements from her lately. Heh.
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 10/14/2009 @ 6:54 pmEric,
Go speak to your pastor. I think you need help.
The second sentence is undeniably true. But I wonder if Lovey/Empy has any pastor, or any religion for that matter.
I think L/E uses religion to advance its disgusting agenda. About as authentic as Geraldine, but much uglier.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407) — 10/14/2009 @ 7:00 pmAmerican Thinker looks closely at Whitlock’s piece,
Whitlock goes on to explain that it’s fine for rapper Jay-Z to own a part of the Cleveland Cavaliers despite using lyrics laced with violence, racism and sexism.
This is the major difference between Rush and Jay-Z. Beyonce’s boyfriend raps a bunch of dumb, racist, sexist (spit) but serious people don’t take Jay-Z or his music seriously.
So apparently, if Rush were not an intelligent, powerful influence on 20 million listeners, he too could be the owner of a professional sports team.
Or, the flip side: If Jay-Z were taken as seriously as Rush is, then he too would not be able to own part of a sports team.
I can’t wait for so many people to make it to the other side where living post-racial has always been just a regular part of the day, like pouring the first cup of coffee in the morning. This is so tiresome.
(pre-emptive strike: Yeah, I know, coffee is black. But we’re all grownups here, seriously, how many of us pour a first cup of milk in the morning?)
Dana (863a65) — 10/14/2009 @ 7:26 pmMaybe you folks should write a book about me. Call it ” The Emperor.”.
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 10/14/2009 @ 7:26 pmWe’d call it “Sybil”, but that’s already been done.
Stashiu3 (44da70) — 10/14/2009 @ 7:31 pmI can’t wait for so many people to make it to the other side where living post-racial has always been just a regular part of the day, like pouring the first cup of coffee in the morning. This is so tiresome.
Comment by Dana — 10/14/2009 @ 7:26 pm
Well said.
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 10/14/2009 @ 7:48 pmDogfighting (Mike Vick)? No problem.
Manslaughter (Leonard Little)? No problem.
Domestic abuse (Jerome Mathis)? No problem.
Drug dealing (Jamal Lewis)? No problem.
Stomping on an opposing player’s head (Albert Haynesworth)? No problem.
Freely expressing banal views about the desire for many to see a black man succeed as a QB, and some sugarcoating as a result? Somehow, that’s a problem.
Freely expressing a view that race does not matter unless you make it matter by dividing us? Unacceptable.
Being one of those conservatives who is as proud of his views as a liberal in media is of theirs? Shut him out of the sport!
It’s not just the media’s amazing lies that bug us. It’s that the NFL has come together to make clear that this fair man who has always promoted their sport is somehow not a full fledged person. That his views are somehow unacceptable, even though they are based on reality and unhateful. These people should be defending Rush from all the hate directed at him and conservatives, even if they disagree. Instead… they promote hate.
The NFL welcomes Jay-Z and many other extremists. Hell, the welcome Michael Vick. Any standard that accepts Vick and excludes Rush is contrary to decency.
Dustin (bb61e3) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:37 pmWell said, Dustin.
DRJ (7fbae6) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:42 pmBut don’t you think that somehow Rush brought this on himself? Most times, intentions, no matter how good are buried in perception. He did not do enough to change or control that perception. I have learnt something: if you don’t define yourself people will define yourself for you. And it ain’t gonna be pretty. He allowed this to happen. He has a lot of work to do of changing the general perception of him.
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:55 pmAt this point, it would seem to this observer, the best revenge for Rush would be to join a group buying CBS and have a significant voice in how the NFL is presented to the fans – or he could hire himself to be an on-air critic of the game.
AD - RtR/OS! (12661a) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:56 pmOh. My. God.
Paging Dr. Freud.
Enough said. But the subject isn’t exactly multimillion dollar earning media personalities.
Eric Blair (8484db) — 10/14/2009 @ 8:58 pmThanks, DRJ!
Emperor, I simply disagree. Rush did not promote himself as a racist or race baiter. That’s what many have tried to do to him, but he’s never really been a part of that. He happily discusses race, but his position is clear and unoffensive. He has a dream! That one day, people would be judged not for the color of their skin.
I don’t want to admit he’s not perfect or that he says things I don’t agree with. Those facts are irrelevant to what’s happened here.
Like I said, the NFL is treating Michael Vick much better than Rush Limbaugh. Neither men deserve that.
Dustin (bb61e3) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:11 pmLike I said, the NFL is treating Michael Vick much better than Rush Limbaugh. Neither men deserve that.
Comment by Dustin — 10/14/2009 @ 9:11 pm
I agree. One holds strong and controversial political views, the other doesn’t. That is the difference.
The Emperor (0c8c2c) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:35 pmSo, to add to defending a child-rapist and getting excited by reading the account of a 13-year-old who was raped, you also support brutalizing and killing dogs. What an upstanding …
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:42 pmLovie/chimperor is a polluted demented soul-less twit.
JD (5e5cad) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:50 pmEmperor:
I think Vick held pretty strong views as to abusing animals. Not so much now.
Prison, and losing you’re livelihood, will do that to you.
Politics doesn’t usually involve physical pain and death to an animal.
But, carry on.
Ag80 (2a7a2a) — 10/14/2009 @ 9:53 pmComment by John Hitchcock — 10/14/2009 @ 9:42 pm
John Hitchcock,
Am sorry; missed the major insult you were apparently dealt by our current troll and understand if you don’t want to revisit it but was just curious as to what thread it was in. Thanks either way.
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 10/14/2009 @ 10:03 pmnoyk,
The one that stood out to me was in the thread with this comment. There have been dozens of others.
Stashiu3 (44da70) — 10/14/2009 @ 10:08 pmIt was the “depressed” thread, if memory serves.
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/14/2009 @ 10:08 pmBut Lovey’s targeted me on many prior occasions as well with its juvenile sexually-charged personal attacks.
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/14/2009 @ 10:10 pmThat one, too.
John Hitchcock (3fd153) — 10/14/2009 @ 10:12 pmComment by John Hitchcock — 10/14/2009 @ 10:10 pm
Thanks to you and Stashiu. Interestingly you’ve both been targets of major attacks by this pleasant person, now that I think of it. And no doubt there are others I missed. The “depressed” thread was the tipping point for me. No more benefit of the doubt from me.
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 10/14/2009 @ 10:15 pmI have learnt something: if you don’t define yourself people will define yourself for you. And it ain’t gonna be pretty. He allowed this to happen. He has a lot of work to do of changing the general perception of him.
Comimg from you that’s laughable. Moreover, it’s a bunch of BS to say that Limbaugh, who’s hardly a retiring wallflower, hasn’t gone out of his way to define himself. You make him sound like one of those liberals who when asked to describe their ideology say something like “uh, er, ah, I’m a progressive!”
Then again, when assessments of human behavior indicate that “progressives” actually are less generous in donating their time and money (and in even giving blood) than conservatives — and when the idiocy of liberals castigating Limbaugh for racism, as illustrated below, actually is an illustration of the soft bigotry of low expectations emanating from the left — that make liberals even more laughable and phony.
dailykos.com:
Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 11:27:27 PM PDT
Rush Limbaugh & Bo Snerdley discussed Obama’s lack of “slave blood” this morning, as well as the contents of Bo’s blood, to establish Bo’s qualifications as Certified Black Enough to Criticize Obama.
I’m telling you, I think we may be getting somewhere in this country.
RUSH: … One of the questions most frequently being asked is if the Official Obama Criticizer, Bo Snerdley, has any slave blood himself because people think this might be a qualification in terms of your being black enough, officially black enough to criticize. So let me just put the question to you. Do you have slave blood flowing through your veins?
SNERDLEY: As I have said previously: I am certified black enough. Yes, I have slave blood. I also have Native American blood.
RUSH: Indian blood, for those in Rio Linda.
SNERDLEY: Yes, yes. And! I have Irish blood coursing through my veins as well. It shows up under the microscope. All of them, different ones, they show up.
RUSH: You’ve actually had your blood microscoped?
SNERDLEY: Yes, and they identified slave blood.
RUSH: This was part of the process?
SNERDLEY: Yes. We identified the different segments.
RUSH: True. Why did you…?
SNERDLEY: African blood, there. Slave blood, there. Indian blood, there.
RUSH: There is separate slave blood hemoglobin that you can see in the microscope?
SNERDLEY: Yes. They’re chained differently. Leave that alone.
RUSH: Had no idea. And the Irish blood?
SNERDLEY: Oh, yes! It’s a little bit more red at the top.
RUSH: So you’ve noticed all three of these in your blood?
SNERDLEY: Four of them. There’s the African blood.
RUSH: African blood? That’s not the same as the slave blood.
SNERDLEY: No, the slave blood happens when you came to America. You got slave blood then.
RUSH: Oh, I see. Okay. As far as you know, Obama has none of this?
SNERDLEY: From what I understand, Obama has no slave blood. He has African blood, and he has Caucasian blood. White cells. A lot more white cells in the blood of Obama.
RUSH: What do those look like in the microscope?
SNERDLEY: White!
RUSH: That would make sense. So you’re saying the white blood cells in Obama would be the white blood from his, uh, mother?
SNERDLEY: That’s what Joe Biden was trying to say when he said “articulate.” It’s code words. That’s Democrat code words.
RUSH: Code word for what, white blood cells?
SNERDLEY: That’s what Joe Biden was saying! Those are Democrat code words.
RUSH: “Articulate” meaning he didn’t have slave talk, right?
SNERDLEY: Right!
RUSH: Slave talk. Okay. Well, I appreciate this enlightenment. That’s Official Obama Criticizer Bo Snerdley answering questions from the audience, whether or not he has slave blood.
Mark (411533) — 10/14/2009 @ 10:21 pmEND TRANSCRIPT
Lovey implied that he molested his daughter. I learned that Lovey had no morals or character a year ago and am thoroughly disgusted every time Lovey comments. Lovey has threatened violence many times, including to punch JD in the face. Lovey is simply sickening in every thread without fail. Ignore Lovey.
Stashiu3 (44da70) — 10/14/2009 @ 10:21 pmSo it’s Rush’s fault people lie about him?
The 13 year old wanted to be raped?
I might point out that Clarance Thomas was well known for treating his female staffers well and giving them opportunities that were not common then but that did not stop the left from smearing him.
The Emperor is really sounding like Frisch the last few days, justifying outrageous deviant conduct, using foul language, implying misconduct between a father and daughter, blaming victims for the offenses done against them and really being an offensive, arrogant troll. I am really tired of this. I wish you all good luck.
Machinist (79b3ab) — 10/14/2009 @ 10:27 pmEmperor, was your comment #136 supposed to support your immediately previous proposition that Rush brought this abuse upon himself? That’s the only way I can understand what you’re saying.
If so, then you are admitting you were wrong. Rush’s argument… the argument I agree with, is that it’s merely the freedom to express political views not in line with Obama that is the problem for the NFL. You can’t criticize that claim by saying ‘Rush has political views which justify this attack’.
Your opinion, therefore, is that people with a certain political view are fair game for tremendous slander, lack of freedom in the marketplace from monopolies run by people of the contrary political view, and such conservatives have only themselves to blame for all the lies and attacks brought onto them.
I shouldn’t have to add that any expressed and interesting political view that is timely will be “controversial.” It’s always been disputed by the left that we should not judge people according to their race, for example, such that wanting someone to succeed as QB merely for being black is objectionable in this way. I shouldn’t, but you seem to think that because Rush’s views are not shares by those you agree with, that his views can be diminished… or worse.
Anyway, we now have NFL members on tape noting that Rush’s real fault was criticizing Obama and Clinton. It’s an attempt to chill expressions deemed critical of democrats. We all already knew this, anyway. The NFL wants to be extremely partisan and political. They want to get in your face and punch back twice as hard if you dispute Obama’s views. It’s hilarious, then, that Rush’s existence as a political animal is considered a scarlet P.
Dustin (bb61e3) — 10/14/2009 @ 10:30 pmLovey implied that he molested his daughter.
Comment by Stashiu3 — 10/14/2009 @ 10:21 pm
Saw that in the comment you linked upthread. Um, just…Wow. One would think that would be a bannable offense. Machinist is right that the trolling is beginning to sound a lot like that mentally ill blogger.
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 10/14/2009 @ 10:36 pmYeah, that was special, wasn’t it, lovie/chimperor?
JD (5e5cad) — 10/14/2009 @ 11:38 pm