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	<title>Comments on: Leftists and Conservatives Can Agree: Polanski Is a Child Rapist Who Should Face Justice</title>
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		<title>By: Ancora Imparo; 2 Thoughts &#187; The Anchoress &#124; A First Things Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ancora Imparo; 2 Thoughts &#187; The Anchoress &#124; A First Things Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Meanwhile, as the story rages on, a few links: Ed Morrissey is flabbergasted by Anne Applebaum; I confess, I am surprised, too. I&#8217;ve always found her to be pretty sensible, but her defense is not making sense to me, today. The Rhetorician: Some are more equal than others Get Religion: Roman Polanksi and Roman Catholics (H/T Julie) Big Hollywood: Even NY Times Knows Hollywood is on the wrong side of this issue. Patterico: Left and Right should be able to agree on this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Meanwhile, as the story rages on, a few links: Ed Morrissey is flabbergasted by Anne Applebaum; I confess, I am surprised, too. I&#8217;ve always found her to be pretty sensible, but her defense is not making sense to me, today. The Rhetorician: Some are more equal than others Get Religion: Roman Polanksi and Roman Catholics (H/T Julie) Big Hollywood: Even NY Times Knows Hollywood is on the wrong side of this issue. Patterico: Left and Right should be able to agree on this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Judson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Celebrity is like the catholic priesthood. Wagon&#039;s circling to protect their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celebrity is like the catholic priesthood. Wagon&#8217;s circling to protect their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Roman Polanski, Hollywood, and Moral Values &#171; The American Catholic</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/09/30/leftists-and-conservatives-can-agree-polanski-is-a-child-rapist-who-should-face-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-560722</link>
		<dc:creator>Roman Polanski, Hollywood, and Moral Values &#171; The American Catholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] support and defense of Roman Polanski.  For the update from Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications click here. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Roman Polanski arrested on arrival in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] support and defense of Roman Polanski.  For the update from Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications click here. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Roman Polanski arrested on arrival in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was a graduate student, some of the professors cavorted with the students.  Some of them even got married.  I found this creepy and still find it creepy although they were over the age of 18.  It is as if they saw the students as part of their harem to which they were entitled.  There was little if any indignation over it.  Now, what would have happened had a female professor dated a male grad student?  I can imagine the rage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a graduate student, some of the professors cavorted with the students.  Some of them even got married.  I found this creepy and still find it creepy although they were over the age of 18.  It is as if they saw the students as part of their harem to which they were entitled.  There was little if any indignation over it.  Now, what would have happened had a female professor dated a male grad student?  I can imagine the rage.</p>
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		<title>By: aloysiusmiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>aloysiusmiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile on the right you can find Roger Simon triangulating over at Pajamas media. Just check out his last two pieces to see what I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile on the right you can find Roger Simon triangulating over at Pajamas media. Just check out his last two pieces to see what I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Peg C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peg C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hollywood elites have long since revealed themselves to be depraved and morally repugnant, so I don&#039;t understand the surprise now. Many (certainly not all) are by any definition hyper-promiscuous and in a semi-incestuous way with each other over and over. Tabloid cover proof. These people grow up selling themselves physically to get acting jobs. They pretend to be other people and cavort nude and simulate sex and get paid millions of dollars for doing so. We are to think they as a class would be offended by child-rape? Are you kidding? Most have long since lost the ability to differentiate between fantasy and reality and live in echo chamber cocoons to boot. 

I grew up with these people and their children. One of the reasons so many of them struggle with addictions and rehab (besides the obvious narcissistic and other personality disorders that draw them to their industry to begin with) is the utter lack of a sense of moral order or responsibility in their heads. They utterly lack it to the point where many objectively are sociopaths. Of course they defend Polanski. Half of them may BE him.

One of the many reasons Hollywood loved Bill Clinton was that he embodied their own disorders and peccadilloes, and gave them sanction and a powerful sheen. &quot;One of us, in the White House!&quot; The Lewinsky scandal and impeachment episode was a particular slap at Hollywood, who, if they defend a child rapist, most certainly could find no fault with anything Clinton did! He was their affirmation.

So is Polanski. They literally do not comprehend why the rest of the world might be appalled and revulsed by this man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hollywood elites have long since revealed themselves to be depraved and morally repugnant, so I don&#8217;t understand the surprise now. Many (certainly not all) are by any definition hyper-promiscuous and in a semi-incestuous way with each other over and over. Tabloid cover proof. These people grow up selling themselves physically to get acting jobs. They pretend to be other people and cavort nude and simulate sex and get paid millions of dollars for doing so. We are to think they as a class would be offended by child-rape? Are you kidding? Most have long since lost the ability to differentiate between fantasy and reality and live in echo chamber cocoons to boot. </p>
<p>I grew up with these people and their children. One of the reasons so many of them struggle with addictions and rehab (besides the obvious narcissistic and other personality disorders that draw them to their industry to begin with) is the utter lack of a sense of moral order or responsibility in their heads. They utterly lack it to the point where many objectively are sociopaths. Of course they defend Polanski. Half of them may BE him.</p>
<p>One of the many reasons Hollywood loved Bill Clinton was that he embodied their own disorders and peccadilloes, and gave them sanction and a powerful sheen. &#8220;One of us, in the White House!&#8221; The Lewinsky scandal and impeachment episode was a particular slap at Hollywood, who, if they defend a child rapist, most certainly could find no fault with anything Clinton did! He was their affirmation.</p>
<p>So is Polanski. They literally do not comprehend why the rest of the world might be appalled and revulsed by this man.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were being satirical, then it just went over my head.  Twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were being satirical, then it just went over my head.  Twice.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, my apologies for being rude.  That was lame of me.

However, you did invent the label of &#039;Islamo-Hindu-fascist rightism&#039;

And I&#039;m sorry, but that&#039;s just plain idiotic to me.  Call it what it is... it is not right or left, and some things, like Nazis, are so extreme they completely defy being put on a linear scale along with Democrats and Republicans.  There is not some easy scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, my apologies for being rude.  That was lame of me.</p>
<p>However, you did invent the label of &#8216;Islamo-Hindu-fascist rightism&#8217;</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sorry, but that&#8217;s just plain idiotic to me.  Call it what it is&#8230; it is not right or left, and some things, like Nazis, are so extreme they completely defy being put on a linear scale along with Democrats and Republicans.  There is not some easy scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;anyway, your problem is that you are an idiot. You want very badly to hate Republicans, conservatives, and love Democrats.&lt;/i&gt;

LOL. You are obviously a newbie here, since you aren&#039;t aware of the ideological/political slant of virtually any and every post I&#039;ve ever made to this blog. However, if I really did want to hate Republicans/conservatives and love Democrats/liberals, I&#039;d agree 100% with you. Yea, in that case I&#039;d be an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>anyway, your problem is that you are an idiot. You want very badly to hate Republicans, conservatives, and love Democrats.</i></p>
<p>LOL. You are obviously a newbie here, since you aren&#8217;t aware of the ideological/political slant of virtually any and every post I&#8217;ve ever made to this blog. However, if I really did want to hate Republicans/conservatives and love Democrats/liberals, I&#8217;d agree 100% with you. Yea, in that case I&#8217;d be an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, you&#039;re rambling and incoherent... and you&#039;re trying to link the backwards practices of Islamofascist places to American conservatives by throwing in the word &#039;fascist&#039;. 

Anyway, that&#039;s obviously pretty stupid.

You noted &quot;the flip comment that when a woman is being raped, she should just lie back and enjoy it. &quot;

Clayton Williams was &#039;overheard&#039; saying this by some reporter.  Who knows just how accurate that quote is, but it&#039;s just an example of some guy who makes a lot of Joe Biden type jokes.  He lost that election because he didn&#039;t shake Ann Richard&#039;s hand... not because of this joke (which I agree was awful if it was actually told).

anyway, your problem is that you are an idiot.  You want very badly to hate Republicans, conservatives, and love Democrats.  So you try to rank everything from good to bad on a linear line.  Politics are not really on a left to right line.  It&#039;s not &#039;more conservative&#039; to be hitler and &#039;more liberal&#039; to be Mao... which is why those two were pretty similar.

You don&#039;t get to blame conservatives for every backwards practice in the world.  You have to take each and every person and policy and consider them on their own merit.  I know it&#039;s more effort and that you are probably very, very lazy, but tough shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, you&#8217;re rambling and incoherent&#8230; and you&#8217;re trying to link the backwards practices of Islamofascist places to American conservatives by throwing in the word &#8216;fascist&#8217;. </p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s obviously pretty stupid.</p>
<p>You noted &#8220;the flip comment that when a woman is being raped, she should just lie back and enjoy it. &#8221;</p>
<p>Clayton Williams was &#8216;overheard&#8217; saying this by some reporter.  Who knows just how accurate that quote is, but it&#8217;s just an example of some guy who makes a lot of Joe Biden type jokes.  He lost that election because he didn&#8217;t shake Ann Richard&#8217;s hand&#8230; not because of this joke (which I agree was awful if it was actually told).</p>
<p>anyway, your problem is that you are an idiot.  You want very badly to hate Republicans, conservatives, and love Democrats.  So you try to rank everything from good to bad on a linear line.  Politics are not really on a left to right line.  It&#8217;s not &#8216;more conservative&#8217; to be hitler and &#8216;more liberal&#8217; to be Mao&#8230; which is why those two were pretty similar.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t get to blame conservatives for every backwards practice in the world.  You have to take each and every person and policy and consider them on their own merit.  I know it&#8217;s more effort and that you are probably very, very lazy, but tough shit.</p>
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