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	<title>Comments on: Breitbart&#8217;s Next News Drop: The NEA, the White House, The Lies and the Cover-Up</title>
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	<description>Harangues that just make sense</description>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politization of the arts happened the moment the government created the NEA.  This type of corruption is just the logical conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politization of the arts happened the moment the government created the NEA.  This type of corruption is just the logical conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: daleyrocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>daleyrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This NEA story is just more evidence of the Chicago Way infiltrating Washington.

Nice bank you got there.  Now that we forced you to take TARP money and we won&#039;t let you pay it back, why don&#039;t you ease up on those mortgage foreclosures and make a few more loans to those customers over by dere.

Hey, nice grant you got, why don&#039;t you help us out getting us some of this pesky legislation passed.

And so it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This NEA story is just more evidence of the Chicago Way infiltrating Washington.</p>
<p>Nice bank you got there.  Now that we forced you to take TARP money and we won&#8217;t let you pay it back, why don&#8217;t you ease up on those mortgage foreclosures and make a few more loans to those customers over by dere.</p>
<p>Hey, nice grant you got, why don&#8217;t you help us out getting us some of this pesky legislation passed.</p>
<p>And so it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like #94 is spam.

[&lt;em&gt;It&#039;s been deleted, Bradley.  Thanks.  -- DRJ&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like #94 is spam.</p>
<p>[<em>It's been deleted, Bradley.  Thanks.  -- DRJ</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Blair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, just mouse over to Xanthippas&#039; website and blog.  See the kinds of things he posts.  In particular, his description of O&#039;Keefe and Giles.

Nope.  Nothing prejudicial there.

Though, in reading his blog, the gentleman does seem to have a number of very abruptly stated prejudices that are directed toward people with whom he disagrees politically.

It&#039;s a mindset thing.  I think the guy is an alphabetist.  Thus, he cannot possibly agree that anyone whom Vanity Smurf worked with could be wrong.  So it must be that awful Right Wing Conspiracy.

It&#039;s all GWB&#039;s fault that ACORN has ethical and moral pygmies working for its organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, just mouse over to Xanthippas&#8217; website and blog.  See the kinds of things he posts.  In particular, his description of O&#8217;Keefe and Giles.</p>
<p>Nope.  Nothing prejudicial there.</p>
<p>Though, in reading his blog, the gentleman does seem to have a number of very abruptly stated prejudices that are directed toward people with whom he disagrees politically.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a mindset thing.  I think the guy is an alphabetist.  Thus, he cannot possibly agree that anyone whom Vanity Smurf worked with could be wrong.  So it must be that awful Right Wing Conspiracy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all GWB&#8217;s fault that ACORN has ethical and moral pygmies working for its organization.</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s if you believe any of the story at all, DRJ.  But more importantly, Vera is just one.  Uno.  Singleton.

Xanthippas asserts that this one single dubious story about contacting LEO exonerates all of the ACORN employees.

Rather a dishonest claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s if you believe any of the story at all, DRJ.  But more importantly, Vera is just one.  Uno.  Singleton.</p>
<p>Xanthippas asserts that this one single dubious story about contacting LEO exonerates all of the ACORN employees.</p>
<p>Rather a dishonest claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Where is the NEA&#8217;s IG when you need him? &#171; Pi Are Squared</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/09/21/breitbarts-next-news-drop-the-nea-the-white-house-the-lies-and-the-cover-up/comment-page-2/#comment-557138</link>
		<dc:creator>Where is the NEA&#8217;s IG when you need him? &#171; Pi Are Squared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DRJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DRJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xanthippas #86,

Your link is to Balloon Juice, and that links to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ACORN_HIDDEN_CAMERA?SITE=FLSTU&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;newspaper article&lt;/a&gt; that says the San Diego ACORN employee, Juan Carlos Vera, told his police detective cousin two days after the incident.  (Compare that with this story in which &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.10news.com/news/20975217/detail.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vera implied&lt;/a&gt; he called the police immediately after they left his office: &quot;After the pair left the building, Vera said he called the National City Police Department.&quot;)

So what is the timeline?  According to the Balloon Juice-linked newspaper article (my first link above), Vera was filmed on August 18 and contacted his police detective cousin on August 20. Then his cousin talked to another police official who requested more details and Vera &quot;responded several days later and explained that the information he received was not true and he had been duped.&quot;  In other words, it took a week or two (depending on how you define &quot;several days later&quot;) for this to transpire.  That would be between August 25 and September 2, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548827,00.html?test=latestnews&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the first ACORN story didn&#039;t break until September 10&lt;/a&gt;.  

So what happened to make Vera realize he&#039;d been duped?  Did it actually take over 3 weeks for Vera to follow up and by then he&#039;d seen the video and realized he&#039;d been duped?  Or could it be that ACORN figured out what was happening, issued a warning, and that&#039;s when Vera contacted his cousin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xanthippas #86,</p>
<p>Your link is to Balloon Juice, and that links to a <a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ACORN_HIDDEN_CAMERA?SITE=FLSTU&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT" rel="nofollow">newspaper article</a> that says the San Diego ACORN employee, Juan Carlos Vera, told his police detective cousin two days after the incident.  (Compare that with this story in which <a href="http://www.10news.com/news/20975217/detail.html" rel="nofollow">Vera implied</a> he called the police immediately after they left his office: &#8220;After the pair left the building, Vera said he called the National City Police Department.&#8221;)</p>
<p>So what is the timeline?  According to the Balloon Juice-linked newspaper article (my first link above), Vera was filmed on August 18 and contacted his police detective cousin on August 20. Then his cousin talked to another police official who requested more details and Vera &#8220;responded several days later and explained that the information he received was not true and he had been duped.&#8221;  In other words, it took a week or two (depending on how you define &#8220;several days later&#8221;) for this to transpire.  That would be between August 25 and September 2, but <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548827,00.html?test=latestnews" rel="nofollow">the first ACORN story didn&#8217;t break until September 10</a>.  </p>
<p>So what happened to make Vera realize he&#8217;d been duped?  Did it actually take over 3 weeks for Vera to follow up and by then he&#8217;d seen the video and realized he&#8217;d been duped?  Or could it be that ACORN figured out what was happening, issued a warning, and that&#8217;s when Vera contacted his cousin?</p>
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		<title>By: Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Police say he contacted law enforcement two days later.&lt;/i&gt;

The very model of &lt;strike&gt;a belated realization of culpabilty&lt;/strike&gt; an upstanding citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Police say he contacted law enforcement two days later.</i></p>
<p>The very model of <strike>a belated realization of culpabilty</strike> an upstanding citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xanthippas, you don&#039;t seem to even realize that the Balloon Juice post does not say what you claim it does.

Typical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xanthippas, you don&#8217;t seem to even realize that the Balloon Juice post does not say what you claim it does.</p>
<p>Typical.</p>
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		<title>By: Stashiu3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stashiu3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xanthippas,

I don&#039;t think you care about credibility.  If someone can be guilty of prostitution without having sex for money (busted by undercover before the act), why are those ACORN workers any less guilty?  They fully intended to assist in trafficking under-age children for prostitution.  Using balloon juice as a source is rather lame too.  Maybe it&#039;s your credibility that just took a hit and we should dismiss the rest of your &lt;strike&gt;comments&lt;/strike&gt; talking points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xanthippas,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you care about credibility.  If someone can be guilty of prostitution without having sex for money (busted by undercover before the act), why are those ACORN workers any less guilty?  They fully intended to assist in trafficking under-age children for prostitution.  Using balloon juice as a source is rather lame too.  Maybe it&#8217;s your credibility that just took a hit and we should dismiss the rest of your <strike>comments</strike> talking points.</p>
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