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9/4/2009

Van Jones: A very special kind of crazy

Filed under: General — Karl @ 2:01 pm



[Posted by Karl]

Sure, you have heard that Pres. Obama’s “green jobs” czar is a communist-sympathizing 9/11 Truther who belongs to the “Free Mumia” school.

But wait… there’s more!

I cannot imagine why Jones was not selected for a job requiring Senate confirmation.   Mickey Kaus claims the bus is warming up for Mr. Jones.  The faster, the better for the Obama administration… and America.

–Karl

105 Responses to “Van Jones: A very special kind of crazy”

  1. Somebody approved the security clearance for Van the Man. Who?

    MTF (6e6f07)

  2. Faster? Oh, no – I hope they drag this embarrassment out for as long as possible. These are the people running your country, ladies and gentlemen. Tax cheats, Socialists, Communists – hey, ho, let’s go!

    Dmac (a93b13)

  3. Anybody who is familiar with my comments can tell that I am libertarian-conservative. Jones is a self-admitted Communist (or was for ten years), and an adherent of some of the more extreme leftist dicta. But for the life of me, I can’t tell what’s wrong with what Jones is saying in this clip. Are you certain that you posted the correct one!

    great unknown (b751d2)

  4. Van Jones, Rev. Wright, “clingers,” the Gates incident, “typical white person,” his treatment of Israel … I’m starting to notice a pattern here.

    StickeeNotes (52e60c)

  5. Hmm… he seems a lot smarter than the author of this blog!

    Axelpatto (ccdeb5)

  6. Axelpatto, and you are basing your snark on what?

    GM Roper (85dcd7)

  7. great unknown,

    You mean, aside from the suggestion that black and Latino children are “criminalized”? Or that race is a factor in school shootings?

    Karl (28885b)

  8. A study from the American Society of Criminology:

    Preliminary findings suggests the media personalizes school shootings occurring in non-urban settings and involving predominantly white actors while mechanically reporting urban school shootings involving black actors.

    Karl (28885b)

  9. What the hell is this guy talking about?
    Was that Jackie Chiles?

    RookDick (e9798b)

  10. It is talk like this that lead people to start chewing off fingers. Finger-chewing Cannibals! 🙂

    The Emperor (1b037c)

  11. I don’t think he was speaking from a racial point of view, but rather from a societal one. There is a presumption that black and Latino children are more prone to trouble, and therefore many more resources are expended there. White children, on the other hand, are presumed to be “in control”, and provided minimal support systems.

    Whether or not there is a racial component in the “criminalization” of children of color is irrelevant. The perception of society guides allocation of resources. I taught for a short time in the NYC public school system. The dichotomy was striking, even among black teachers.
    Black and Latino children were assumed to have more problems, need more help, and be the primary focus of the school system.

    great unknown (b751d2)

  12. I fart in Axelpatto’s general direction.

    JD (b292bd)

  13. “There is a presumption that black and Latino children are more prone to trouble”

    great unknown – Who is presuming this and why?

    Is it a false presumption in your opinion?

    daleyrocks (718861)

  14. great unknown writes:

    I don’t think he was speaking from a racial point of view, but rather from a societal one.

    Then you weren’t paying attention. Jones clearly suggests that “hey, black kids may shoot each other once in a while, but the Columbine-type shooters are only white kids.”

    Like Seung-Hui Cho.

    Jones also conveniently overlooks that one reason there aren’t as many mass school shootings in urban schools would be the fact that metal detectors are fairly common in urban schools today (precisely because such shootings were becoming all too common). So, in cities like the president’s hometown, they get shot outside the school basketball game, as happened in January.

    Karl (28885b)

  15. Obama’s Chickens………..Are Coming Home To Roost!

    daleyrocks (718861)

  16. “There is a presumption that black and Latino children are more prone to trouble”

    great unknown – Why would you come here and make racist comments like that?

    “Anybody who is familiar with my comments can tell that I am libertarian-conservative.”

    Have you ever commented here before? Why would we be familiar with you or believe what you say?

    daleyrocks (718861)

  17. Was Van Jones really saying this by implication: “We’re going to control all white kids just like we control black kids and Latinos. Never mind that the violent crime rate (i.e., the numbers of criminals per 1000 people in the demographic group) is currently higher among black and Latino kids than it is among white kids. We’re going to afflict white kids with The Man, too.”

    great unknown, in comment #11 writes, “Black and Latino children were assumed to have more problems, need more help, and be the primary focus of the school system.”

    Well, great unknown, didn’t the statistics confirm the problems? For example, when you taught in the NYC public school system, weren’t at least black kids more likely to come from single-parent households than white kids? If not, let us know.

    Ira (28a423)

  18. he’s a whiny little bitch isn’t he? I think he fits in well in the Obama administration. He could be Minister of Fruit or something. M’chelle would like that and he’s plenty fruity.

    happyfeet (6b707a)

  19. Van misses the point. The fucked up black kids just drop out of school and the violence winds up on the streets instead of resulting in a Columbine. False comparison. Look at the graduation rates of urban high schools versus suburban or rural with different racial complexions. At least that’s my guess and we can thank our democrat big city political machines for the state of urban public education in this country.

    daleyrocks (718861)

  20. I gotta second ‘great unknown’. But I’m not a regular commenter, so if my cred is in question, see my blog, linked in the name.

    I think it is more of just a cultural thing. The culture/environment of black/latino kids leads to either these single shootings (or if they join a gang, then a driveby, armed robberies, etc). But in “white” culture, in which the asian shooter would be included, the lashing back at society at large is more common.

    He points to both being rooted in the same societal ill – the lack of a good male figure in their lives.

    black and latino kids aren’t criminalized, per se. So I disagree with him on that. But the culture they tend to be in tends to be more violent. So it really isn’t race that is a factor, but of the culture each shooting occurs in.

    In summary, I wouldn’t have phrased it the way he did, but there are far worse things he has stated than this.

    A.G. (7b76df)

  21. A.G.,

    Asians will be glad to hear that they are part of “white culture” now.

    In general, the entire cultural ploy has been debunked many times over. My former host has many fine examples.

    Karl (28885b)

  22. It is difficult to reason with a racist. First he doesn’t see he is a racist. How can you convince him otherwise? What this is, is a veiled way of saying, he is not like us. He is different. All this is Obama’s fault. He should have been white!

    The Emperor whose finger is missing (0c8c2c)

  23. Karl – As Byron York points out today in the Washington Examiner, people who just follow the MSM don’t know shit about Van Jones:

    By: Byron York
    Chief Political Correspondent
    09/04/09 11:30 AM EDT

    From a Nexis search a few moments ago:

    Total words about the Van Jones controversy in the New York Times: 0.
    Total words about the Van Jones controversy in the Washington Post: 0.
    Total words about the Van Jones controversy on NBC Nightly News: 0.
    Total words about the Van Jones controversy on ABC World News: 0.
    Total words about the Van Jones controversy on CBS Evening News: 0.

    If you were to receive all your news from any one of these outlets, or even all of them together, and you heard about some sort of controversy involving President Obama’s Special Adviser for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation, your response would be, “Huh?” If you heard that that adviser, Van Jones, had apologized for a number of remarks and positions in the recent past, your response would be, “What?” And if you were in the Obama White House monitoring the Jones situation, you would be hoping that the news organizations listed above continue to hold the line — otherwise, Jones, who is quite well thought of in Obama circles, would be history.

    daleyrocks (718861)

  24. daleyrocks,

    Kaus suggests that’s about to change. If Jake Tapper follows through on some of his tweets, it could change. We’ll see.

    Karl (28885b)

  25. So, in cities like the president’s hometown, they get shot outside the school basketball game, as happened in January.

    Or on the bus on the way to school…or hunched over, protecting their little sister on the sidewalk…or in their own homes, watching TV (all have happened in the past 6 months here). Mayor Daley loves gun control, and says more of it will solve these types of problems. Mayor Daley is an ass.

    Dmac (a93b13)

  26. I think you completely missed what I was suggesting. Note the quotation marks. I just used that expression b/c that is how it is often referred to. As in black kids being accused of “acting white”. Like I stated, I dont think it has anything to do with race. Nor identity politics, etc. And personally, I dont like such terms (white culture, black culture, etc), its just that what other common terms are there?

    that isn’t to say all the other crap he spouts is ok. he does say racist stuff. he does say other crazy stuff. considering that, I suppose one could infer that he is doing it again. But like I said before, there is much worse than this.

    As for culture, I happen to believe that there are different ones and some have demonstrated to be better than others. Not acknowledging the differences is just dumb. Does it get used as a shield? most certainly. I recollect several instances where people were branded as being racist for criticizing gangsta rap, for example. But just because there are illegitimate uses of cultural comparisons, doesn’t mean that there are no legitimate ones.

    A.G. (7b76df)

  27. So basically this racist ahole nutcase is a bald Cynthia McKinney.

    Houston Native (a40043)

  28. I’m not surprised this guy’s such a racist, I mean, this guy basically got Reverend Wright’s chair in the Obama administration.

    And the reason that the media is so intellectually incurious about it is that they’re trying to support Obama, not exponentially increase the rate of his poularity decline…

    Nice video Karl.

    Bob Reed (99fc1b)

  29. “So basically this racist ahole nutcase is a bald Cynthia McKinney.”

    Houston Native – Has he attacked the Joooooos yet?

    daleyrocks (718861)

  30. A.G.

    I agree this isn’t the worst thing he’s said — that’s why I just said “there’s more.”

    But I think you’re being naive if you think the whole “acting white,” “white culture” stuff is unrelated to identity politics. That it doesn’t occur to you is simply a measure of how marinated our culture is in identity politics.

    E.g., affirmative action in college admissions. Asians are more disadvantaged by it than whites. But in the case of Japanese-Americans, “white culture” took their parents’ and grandparents’ property and stuck them in internment camps. In the case of Vietnamese-Americans, their parents or grandparents often came here with nothing as boat people after the US abandoned them. Why are Asians lumped in with whites? Because certain values and behaviors are derided as “white” by the demogogues of identity politics.

    Karl (28885b)

  31. I didn’t know Ray “School Bus” Nagin was in the Obama administration.

    Capitalist Infidel (38bec9)

  32. Remember, the Color of Change group which pressured some advertisers to drop the Glenn Beck show was founded by this guy. This screaming moonbat, whose views appear to come from Pacifica Radio, founded a group which scared several corporations with a boycott. Jones’ resignation as czar is step one. When the advertisers return to Beck, that’s step two.

    Or you may stop patronizing the corporations which let themselves get “mau-maued” (as Tom Wolfe would put it) in the first place. The list apparently includes: Roche, RadioShack, GEICO, Progressive Insurance, Men’s Wearhouse, State Farm, and Procter & Gamble.

    Official Internet Data Office (0a0b35)

  33. For a person ,whose only reference to Educational Pedogogy ,comes from warped Marxian Interpretation of social strata based on racial lines is not fit to be a member of any United|States post paid for by American |Citizens.

    mike191 (fd5629)

  34. I agree with Dmac–let’s keep this going, with lots of “film at 11.” He is the exemplar of who the heck America elected.

    Wakey, wakey, America.

    Patricia (7aaa75)

  35. Karl, I guess my point is just that if this is Joe Public’s introduction to this guy, they are going to respond “so what?”

    ——

    oh, i totally think the “white culture” stuff is totally related to identity politics. what i was saying was my usage of that term wasnt in regards to identity politics, just because I cant think of a better, common term to use for that. unlike “black culture” which could be better termed as gangsta culture or thug-life culture. Like I stated, I dont care for such terms. I dont think I need to explain how it is racist to attribute certain behavioral characteristics specifically to one’s race. Genetics are far beyond a person’s race, and only play a partial role in our behavior via biochemistry. There isn’t just nature, there is nuture… and personal choice.

    As for college admissions, trust me, I am quite familiar with that. A friend of mine and I applied to a top 20 school years ago. We both had about 1400 sat’s and 3.6 gpas, etc. neither got in, but we knew a few others who did get in despite much worse CV’s because of race and gender. I ended up at a better, but more expensive school, and he went to a top aerospace engineering school and is now working in intelligence. And that just happened because the school we both applied to has such a screwed up system of admissions when it comes to race and gender. Which, btw, trumped our legacy points as well, and not just the 1-1.5 higher gpa and 400 pts on the sat.

    A.G. (7b76df)

  36. what are you talking about? He sounds like a nutcase. Mah cuzzin is up in here I might could hit my cuzzin!

    wtfever.

    He sounds like a sociology major. An undergrad. What a fruitloop yammering on about his univerthally embrathing rethponth and his loving affirmative male leadership. Tell me he’s not a flaming homosexual and I’ll be like oh I didn’t know that cause he seems very very flamey and that’s even before we get to the green jobth part.

    happyfeet (6b707a)

  37. […] Patterico – “I cannot imagine why Jones was not selected for a job requiring Senate confirmation.” […]

    All American Blogger » The Van Jones Story and Blogosphere Roundup (129352)

  38. Van is a living reminder of why czars are a terrible creation–but also illuminates why this administration has so many czars. People going into high level government policy posts with substantial budgets should fall under the senate’s advise and consent clause, but czars escape that treatment. Obviously, it allows the candidate who has something to hide to squeak through with little or no scrutiny, but why the senate is allowing this heavy handed encroachment into their Constitutional responsibilites is very puzzling. Sen. Byrd, as far as I know is the only senator to have raised the issue of czars at all.

    elissa (366821)

  39. wow. Wow as in ick I mean. Here’s estrogen-deprived John McCain sycophant Meg Whitman just beg beg begging for Van Jones to give her a little sumpin sumpin.

    Nauseating.

    happyfeet (6b707a)

  40. yup

    happyfeet (6b707a)

  41. meg wants the van man to make her climate change something awful

    happyfeet (6b707a)

  42. #23: Karl – As Byron York points out today in the Washington Examiner, people who just follow the MSM don’t know shit about Van Jones:

    Yeah they’re the same people who just now realized that the President gets compared to Hitler. These same people never would have seen on the MSM the sort of stuff that Zombietime, for instance, regularly featured from anti-Bush rallys. “They drew a Hitler mustache on Obama. How disgusting!!”

    They’re not hypocrites…as that implies that they’re at least minimally informed.

    KB (f2b2b3)

  43. I’m with A.G. and great unknown. I just don’t think what Jones is saying in this video is that controversial. Certainly what he is saying merits discussion, anyway, the idea that we neglect the white kids who are usually the ones that go psycho. Isn’t Jones pretty much correct about that? Him saying we need to do more for the white boys is pretty… tame. And color blind. If you ask me…

    School Marm (a68c64)

  44. Yes School Marm you are right the government should closely examine the lives of teh white boy chilrens and intervene robustly and also to make them feel loved. After all it do take a village to raise up a white boy proper.

    happyfeet (6b707a)

  45. Happyfeet dat wud funny!

    School Marm (a68c64)

  46. happyfeet, dat wud funny!

    School Marm (a68c64)

  47. A.G. – If we didn’t have identity politics, liberals wouldn’t win elections. It’s what keeps them in business. Duh!

    daleyrocks (718861)

  48. Hey, I’ve looked everywhere, and I just can’t find my “Kill a Commie for Christ!” bumper-sticker!

    AD - RtR/OS! (ea6a1e)

  49. That’s the only VJ video I’ve seen. Does he always use that preacher-style shtick?

    gp (ddb675)

  50. My impression of the guy is that he’s an all-opportunity activist. He’s always been surrounded by lefties, and makes careless common cause with all the various factions he hangs out with. Now that he has a grown-up job, he has to disavow all the unserious stuff in his past if he wants to stay.

    He seems to be authentically knee-jerk anti-capital, so I think that alone would disqualify him from a “green jobs special advisor” position.

    gp (ddb675)

  51. You could say much the same about BHO, by the way.

    gp (ddb675)

  52. School Marm,

    As I noted upthread, school shootings used to be much more common in urban schools than in suburban schools. So cities got metal detectors installed. The violence still goes on, not just in schools. As a result, you can find plenty of liberals in recent years years complaining that “white” school shootings get big media attention while the far more routine youth shootings in black communities are ignored. Jones is making an entirely specious argument, even by liberals’ standards.

    Karl (28885b)

  53. This man has a deep seated hatred of whites. He is putting everyone on. He is really saying “You whites claim that blacks boys are bad and you have one of your own committing a mass murder – so who are you to talk. So you whites keep your mouth shut.” He could care less about helping white boys getting the help they need. Why should he – whites enslaved his ancestors. Think about the last sentence long and hard. It has deep ramifications.

    Moose (dcacef)

  54. I don’t think Jones is right when he says blacks don’t commit school shootings. Peter Odighizuma, a naturalized citizen from Nigeria, was in his forties so he wasn’t a kid, but he was a student who shot and killed several people at the Appalachian Law School because he was upset over academic problems.

    DRJ (3f5471)

  55. He seems to be authentically knee-jerk anti-capital, so I think that alone would disqualify him from a “green jobs special advisor” position.

    On the contrary – his hatred for business in general was exactly what this administration was looking for. Green jobs = more workers shackled to the government teat = more voters in hock to the Dem party.

    Dmac (a93b13)

  56. I will ask the same thing about this guy that I ask about then candidate Obama – What the hell has this guy actually done in his life. He’s got a Yale law degree, but I can’t find any reference to him practising law. He’s spawned all sorts of left wing groups, and I’m sure obtained all sorts of grants:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/03/raw-data-van-jones-resume/
    “•Started his career as a prison-reform advocate in Oakland lobbying for reform of the juvenile justice system and youth-violence prevention programs.
    •Co-founded a socialist collective, Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement, or STORM, in 1994, which held study groups on the theories of Marx and Lenin and dreamed of a multiracial socialist utopia. The group protested police brutality.
    •Co-founded the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights in 1996 and Color of Change in 2005, which includes Bay Area Police Watch, a group devoted to “protect(ing) the community from police misconduct.”
    •Founded Green For All, an organization focused on creating green jobs in impoverished areas.”

    He’s a shucker and a jiver. Got a good riff on white conservatives and how capitalism is bad. Community organizer. Sound familiar?

    Walter Cronanty (7f2f64)

  57. “He seems to be authentically knee-jerk anti-capital”

    gp – You can make some serious coin with that shtick.

    daleyrocks (718861)

  58. ” If we didn’t have identity politics, liberals wouldn’t win elections. It’s what keeps them in business.”

    – daleyrocks

    That, and the plethora of shitty candidates you guys keep pushing forward to represent you. That helps.

    Leviticus (f0edf9)

  59. Not to mention the Beltway snipers, John Allen Muhammed and Lee Boyd Malvo — but these weren’t school shootings.

    DRJ (3f5471)

  60. Van was right about one thing. People need to get uppity.

    imdw (950039)

  61. He is an idiot but I don’t find too much to quibble with other than his “soft on criminals” mind set.

    HeavenSent (01a566)

  62. Something is happening and you don’t know what it is–do you, Mr. Jones?

    Official Internet Data Office (0a0b35)

  63. Leviticus, I would tread lightly. I mean, look at Charlie Rangel. What keeps him there, despite being part of the “most ethical Congress in history”?

    Gerrymandering and identity politics.

    I’m not impressed with 99% of the politicians on BOTH sides of the aisle. You?

    Eric Blair (721b15)

  64. Verum Serum dug up some recording from a record label started by the Ella Baker Center during Van’s day’s there. There’s a clip of Van from an album narrated by none other than Mumia at the link:

    http://www.verumserum.com/?p=8166

    Suuuhhhweeeeet!!!!

    daleyrocks (718861)

  65. Charlie Rangel is a douche bag criminal.

    I know why Democrats like taxes .. they don’t have to pay them and they use them to keep themselves employed!

    HeavenSent (01a566)

  66. DRJ,

    There is the Skyline College shooting recently, but it’s strange that the two news stories I found here and here don’t mention the race of those arrested. The names may give a clue, but are not definitive by any means.

    Stashiu3 (ed6467)

  67. This was interesting as well.

    Stashiu3 (ed6467)

  68. Karl, good point about the metal detectors, but I thought Jones was saying the black boys would typically go to the school & shoot a couple of enemies vs. the white boys go psycho and shoot up the whole school. But it’s very possible I missed the point & will watch again. 🙂

    School Marm (a68c64)

  69. He’s not a “Truther”

    We’ve known for years now that George W. Bush received a presidential daily briefing on Aug. 6, 2001, in which he was warned: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” We’ve known for almost as long that Bush went fishing afterward.

    What we didn’t know is what happened in between the briefing and the fishing, and now Suskind is here to tell us. Bush listened to the briefing, Suskind says, then told the CIA briefer: “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.

    http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2006/06/20/911pdb/

    He just wanted to know what the hell happened. So do I. “Heck of a job, Bushie”

    And on this vid, School Marm gets it about right.

    JW Democrat (fcc189)

  70. JW just proved that it is safe to point and laugh at it anytime it shows up.

    JD (e3dc5c)

  71. Comment by JW Democrat — 9/4/2009 @ 8:34 pm

    Up your game moron. Tell us the actionable intelligence in the PDB and how many similar warnings Clinton got and what he did differently. Back to troll school with you!

    daleyrocks (718861)

  72. this one I liked with the Natalie Merchant and the Michael Stipe I remember

    happyfeet (6b707a)

  73. Michael Smerconish, the “conservative” Philly talk show host, must have a case of exploding brain right now. Smerconish is a hard-line Fry Mumia sort; in fact, he co-wrote the book with Danny Faulkner’s widow. He also worships the ground Obama walks on.

    either orr (291505)

  74. “He seems to be authentically knee-jerk anti-capital, so I think that alone would disqualify him from a “green jobs special advisor” position.”

    Huh, I thought that was the entire POINT of a green jobs special advisor position.

    And I have to agree with the great unknown. I’m not saying his points are anything other than facile far-left boilerplate (the suburbs are killing us, etc.) but once you’ve been outed as a 911 truther, its pretty much all downhill from there.

    And really, is anyone here surprised? Obama sat in the pews of the Holy Church of God Damn America and who relied on a domestic terrorist to launch his political career, at a minimum this type of far left screeching hyperbole is nothing more than background noise to his ears — and that’s assuming he doesn’t secretly agree with it himself. I suspect you are going to here a lot more of these types of appointees in the next few years.

    Sean P (3928ec)

  75. […] Patterico – “I cannot imagine why Jones was not selected for a job requiring Senate confirmation.” […]

    All American Blogger The Van Jones Story and Blogosphere Roundup – CelebrityTwitterGossip.com (d7c66b)

  76. JW D: No he IS a truther and so are you. So, he was told that Bin Laden determined to strike the US, huh? Wow. So was I, genius, and everybody else who did watch or had an opportunity to watch Bin Laden’s interview on 60 Minutes, or who paid attention to the Cole bombing. Does that mean I had advanced knowledge of 911 too?

    Sean P (3928ec)

  77. So, it’s ALL Bush’s AND Sean P’s fault. And when I say ALL, I mean ALL.
    Sean, why did you let the Station Fire here in LA happen?

    Ira (28a423)

  78. The appointment of Van Jones certainly frames Obama’s comments in the Cambridge Ma Police case involving Skip Gates, another well known race baiter. Funny how in the pre-election debates when Obama was dropping the names of all the people he would be surrounding himself with, he failed to mention Van Jones et al.

    Duke Nekem (d9d8ce)

  79. And on this vid, School Marm gets it about right.

    I agree with the Liberal Stooge!

    School Mom (a93b13)

  80. […] Apart from Fox and Jake Tapper, what you get in the MSM is crickets.  Of course, a twenty year old thesis is bigger news than Van Jones at the WaPo, and the scary part–assuming for the sake of argument that he’s not really a Truther and that he signed that shit for purposes of political expediency–is that nobody’s really talking about how truly cracked the idea of a centrally planned Green Economy is.  As Karl says, that’s a special kind of crazy. […]

    More Van Jones: Bad “Music” « POWIP (e3a4cc)

  81. Black and Latino children were assumed to have more problems, need more help, and be the primary focus of the school system.

    There is more socioeconomic dysfunction throughout the black and Latino community, more self-destructive behavior and thinking.

    I still recall reading several years ago (in the Orange County Register) the comments from a surprisingly candid teacher working in a school district somewhere in Calif’s Orange County. She said that among her pupils, apparently from a predominantly Latino or Asian background, the Asian kids tended to do their assignments while her Latino students had an “hasta manana” attitude.

    The combination of an “hasta manana” mentality and an embrace of simpleminded liberalism (including “lefty” politics), which pervades both Latino and black America, is a recipe for failure.

    Mark (411533)

  82. I guess people like Van Jones can be added to the list, per below:

    Charles Krauthammer:

    [T]he idea of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi pulling Obama left is quite ridiculous. Where do you think he came from, this friend of Chávista ex-terrorist William Ayers, of PLO apologist Rashid Khalidi, of racialist inciter Jeremiah Wright?

    Mark (411533)

  83. JW Democrat has already been shown to be dishonest, now JW Democrat shows us just how clueless. I think the very best rebuttal to the idea that Bush was given a warning at the PDB in August is in Bush’s own words, where he states to the CIA briefer that they had covered their ass. Because that was all that the line in the PDB was, ass covering because there was nothing actionable about the brief.

    JW Democrat is too clueless to realize that and just gives us more discredited dishonest snark.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  84. Sorry, Ira, I was too busy figuring out how to invade Iran for the oil.

    Sean P (3928ec)

  85. so… what happens if there’s a very very carnagey white boy school shooting the week after Barack Obama’s speech you think?

    I really don’t know.

    happyfeet (6b707a)

  86. Well, that didn’t take too long.

    US APNewsAlert

    (AP) – 20 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON — Obama aide Van Jones resigns as environmental adviser amid controversy over past statements.

    Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

    Dana (863a65)

  87. Oh poop, I’m sorry, Scott… (slinks back to her book)

    Dana (863a65)

  88. That’s right woman… 🙂

    Wait a second… A book? Aren’t you supposed to be in the kitchen or something? 😉

    Scott Jacobs (d027b8)

  89. Scott,

    Might be a cookbook. *ducks*

    Stashiu3 (ed6467)

  90. Nah, the hubby gave me permission for a 1/2 hour break, so I’m reading. He even set the timer for me. 🙂

    Dana (863a65)

  91. Might be a cookbook. *ducks*

    You boys are mighty lucky your tushes are in cyberspace because you would each be having a very uncomfortable introduction to a pointy black-toed Jimmy Choo right about now!

    Dana (863a65)

  92. My wife has your back Dana. I’m like this in real life so just consider the next (very justified) act of spousal abuse that comes my way dedicated to you. 😉

    Stashiu3 (ed6467)

  93. You boys are mighty lucky your tushes are in cyberspace because you would each be having a very uncomfortable introduction to a pointy black-toed Jimmy Choo right about now!

    You would not even dare to do such a thing…

    And wtf is your hubby doing letting you wear shoes?? God damnit, now we have to have a special meeting and everything…

    Scott Jacobs (d027b8)

  94. VAN JONES IS A QUITTER!!!!!

    Heh!

    Heh!

    Heh!

    daleyrocks (718861)

  95. Stashiu, I’m married to a guy with a never-ending sense of humor so it was a goldmine that he married an Indian as well.. It just adds oodles of fun to the ‘in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant’ teases. Darned if he doesn’t make me laugh every time. I denounce myself continually!

    Scott, a girl can’t be expected to wear moccasins all the time!

    Dana (863a65)

  96. “And wtf is your hubby doing letting you wear shoes??”

    Scott – Let alone the cost of the electricity or candlepower or whatever to let a WOMAN read a book! Next thing you know she might get some ideas and start thinking for herself. Can’t have that nonsense.

    daleyrocks (718861)

  97. Scott, a girl can’t be expected to wear moccasins all the time!

    What part of “barefoot” does your hubby not understand?

    Tell him that he is to report to the local Man Union hall Tuesday morning for the disciplinary hearing…

    Scott Jacobs (d027b8)

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