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8/27/2009

The Tedward Lovefest: Candidate for Health Care Sainthood Has One Teensy, Weensy Little Blemish on His Health Care Record

Filed under: Dog Trainer — Patterico @ 7:15 am



Yesterday we had Nancy Pelosi sending out an e-mail saying we should pass health care because of Ted Kennedy. And we had Robert Byrd saying we should name the new health care plan after Kennedy. Today, the L.A. Times carries the predictable raft of complimentary stories about Tedward, and highlights how important he would have been for health care:

Kennedy Great for Health Care

Is it OK yet for me to point out that the guy they want to designate their Patron Saint of Health Care . . . is (other than war veterans) the one guy in Congress who killed someone?

Here’s my proposed slogan: “If we pass TeddyCare, your treatment will be delayed until 10 hours past your death . . . just like Mary Jo Kopechne’s!”

How does that grab you, Nancy and Bob?

61 Responses to “The Tedward Lovefest: Candidate for Health Care Sainthood Has One Teensy, Weensy Little Blemish on His Health Care Record”

  1. I think the most revealing point about Teddy’s support for universal healthcare, which will restrict free choice of physician, is his own decision to seek care at Duke University. If his concept of health care reform were adopted, the public would be denied that freedom. One essential characteristic of the left is their assumed immunity from the rules they establish for everyone else.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  2. Kennedycare sponsored by Banana Republic.

    Proper.

    happyfeet (71f55e)

  3. I’ve already seen way too many whitewashed news stories burying this little incident – all various forms of “exercised questionable judgement,” “car accident,” “GOP harped on in 1980 campaign,” etc. They make Pravda blush.

    Dmac (e6d1c2)

  4. BTW, I wonder if the Dems are really this clueless – putting forward an individual so widely loathed by voters both inside and outside of his party is really tone – deaf. If anything, this will hasten the crack – up of the healthcare plan – sooper geniuses.

    Dmac (e6d1c2)

  5. Just in case anyone missed this great Michael Kelly piece:

    http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_5585&pageNum=5

    Yup. Just a few errors in judgement.

    Notice that his misogynist-buddy for some of his exploits was our old friend Chris Dodd. Another paragon of great virtue.

    I know a woman who, when I pointed this out, actually said in response “…he who is without sin…”

    Oh, please. The Left can love his politics while thinking he was a predator-buffoon.

    Eric Blair (a88004)

  6. I am still saying nothing.

    JD (5e5cad)

  7. He was a nasty, stupid, immoral, adulterous, alcoholic, murderous trust-baby, and nothing more. He fed off his dead brothers’ bones all his life. That was his only credential. I suppose it’s only fair that other should feast on his dead bones now.

    Please feel free to delete this comment, DRJ or Patterico.

    nk (b17d90)

  8. Mike K, Rush devoted his opening monologue Wednesday to exactly that point. It was simply scathing and he did it without a word of criticism against the fat sandwich-maker.

    And what #7 nk said.

    Peg C. (48175e)

  9. But if not for him, Carter might have won re-election in 1980. I hope the Devil lowers the temperature of the oil by ten degrees for that.

    Please feel free to delete this comment, too.

    nk (b17d90)

  10. Why not pass a drunk driving bill for Teddy? Or a sexual assault law? How about one subsidizing new railings on small bridges? Considering his obesity and drinking, a health bill would be about the last thing one would associate with Teddy.

    Kevin Murphy (3c3db0)

  11. My deepest, fondest hope is that the Insane Clown Posse from congress shows up at Kennedy’s public memorial service and performs a “Wellstone” and shamelessly pimp his memory for political effect.

    That should kill both Health Care National Bankruptcy and Cap and Screw Middle America good and dead.

    Do it, Nancy and Barry! I’m begging you!

    BJTexs (a2cb5a)

  12. Denounced. Denounced and condemned.

    JD (4223e0)

  13. The following is an honest question.

    Was the health care that Ted Kennedy received in his last couple years the same or equivalent to what the public would receive per the proposed bill that Congress wants to pass?

    jim2 (a9ab88)

  14. Thank you, Eric, for that link at GQ. Never having read that magazine, I’d never have found it otherwise, and that’s quite a summary. It reveals what a monster Ted Kennedy was, and yet I think the author still does consider him the “predator buffoon”. Hey, he went for long stretches without getting drunk.

    What is most disturbing is not even the grossness, the drinking, or the womanizing, but the profound disconnect in worldview in his politics. Someone Kelly interviews says that you can’t point to “Kennedy’s thoughts” or political philosophy, but it’s all about his passionate feelings. He felt this huge empathy for the downtrodden – even though he might have been the one treading them down. He was like the classic picture of the benevolent despot in a dissipated nobility, veering back and forth between cruelty and charity.

    As Kennedy himself was reported to have said (after getting caught in an embarrassing situation), “Makes you wonder about the leaders of this country.”

    I suspect it may also explain something of the Bush phobia we’ve seen in recent years. A patrician George H.W. Bush managed to see one of his sons also elected president, an achievement of which Joe Kennedy was terribly proud with JFK. I wonder if Ted and those who followed his lead hated the Bush family for being “better” than they were – for getting there without the overt corruption – and perhaps for being imperfect liberals. (I won’t consider the Bush family conservatives.)

    Much food for thought. What a sad, sad man who had a sad, sad life. I only wish he had not been so energetic and had not exercised such influence on the history of our nation. Our country deserved better.

    Gesundheit (254807)

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  16. I don’t understand the media’s love affair with Kennedy, I don’t like his politics and I definitely do not think he should be turned into some sort of saint (I think the drive to do so is nothing more than sick political opportunism by the Dems) … but bringing out the drunk driving accident from 40 years ago in an attempt for irony strikes me as a below-the-belt attack.

    Just my $.02

    Harvey M Anderson (a664fb)

  17. but bringing out the drunk driving accident from 40 years ago in an attempt for irony strikes me as a below-the-belt attack.

    Just my $.02

    Comment by Harvey M Anderson — 8/27/2009 @ 8:57 am

    Why? If I, a nobody, had left a young girl to drown, would you vote for me for your Senator?

    nk (b17d90)

  18. I don’t understand the logic of supporting ObamaCare just because Ted Kennedy has died.

    What changed? The trillion-dollar price tag? The government control? The government inefficiency?

    If they want a monument to Kennedy, it would be cheaper to make a life-size statue out of solid gold. At least that wouldn’t bankrupt the country.

    JayC (5122d1)

  19. Harvey,

    Of course, if you really do not think he should be turned into some sort of saint by sick political opportunism, one way to stop it might be to remind people of how much he was not a saint.

    Karl (f07e38)

  20. Just my $.02

    I wonder what Mary Jo Kopechne’s $.02 would be.

    Old Coot (83c1d1)

  21. The great irony is that Ted Kennedy is a major reason for why we do not have universal health coverage. The Boston Herald had this story many years ago when I was living there. You may recall that when Bill Clinton rolled out ClintonCare in 1994 he pointed out that Richard Nixon had proposed a similar, perhaps even more generous, program during his Administration. Why then had he not been able to get it passed? The reason, according to this Herald article, is that Nixon’s plan like Clinton’s relied upon private insurance to cover the majority of Americans, and Kennedy was in favor of a single-payer plan. Kennedy managed to convince his majority Democrats to hold out for single-payer (he also did not want Nixon to get credit for health insurance reform in the run up to the 1972 election) and they united with conservative Republicans who were concerned about government involvement in health insurance to scuttle the plans. Needless to say, we never got single-payer either, so Kennedy helped kill the best opportunity for Americans to have universal health coverage. Of course, you won’t be hearing that inconvenient truth during the canonization process.

    It’s hard to find many citations for this on Google, since most of the hits on “Ted Kennedy Richard Nixon health care 1971″ lead to this video which is interesting in it’s own right, but it’s an interesting story nevertheless.

    JVW (d1215a)

  22. I encouraged readers not to make today be about remembering Kennedy’s role in the death of Mary Kopechne, or his lies about Robert Bork, or his numerous personal failings. There will be time for all that, but the day of a man’s death should not be about politics.

    I guess the day after his death, we are good to go, eh?

    – Rush Limbaugh was roundly criticized for saying “by the time it’s passed, it will be known as the Ted Kennedy Memorial Health Care Bill.” (huffpo link)
    – The DNC had a petition for Michael Steele to “denounce him once and for all” and other predictable forms of outrage. Then, yesterday, right on schedule:
    – Robert Byrd (D-KKK) proposes just that–to rename the bill for Senator Ted Kennedy, who worked tirelessly for health care for all yada yada yada. (politico link)

    I’m not the biggest Rush Limbaugh fan, but he sure is right sometimes.

    carlitos (365283)

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  24. I never listen to Rush, but who can miss all these targets that so easily lend themselves to parody? The Dems are unaware how much of the independent voters of this country are laughing at them – just witness the inane VA Rep. Moran’s townhall vid with his special guest…Howard Dean. Aside from the disruption from that nutbag abortion protester Randall Terry, it’s pretty hilarious. I think the only reason why they allowed the guy in was to use him to paint all the others there protesting as right – wing wackos. Didn’t work.

    Dmac (e6d1c2)

  25. I think it was Jim Treacher who quipped, If you’re going to talk about Camelot, don’t forget to mention the Lady in the Lake.

    Mitch (890cbf)

  26. What’s wrong with naming a school or something after him as a tribute, like everyone else?
    The fact that Pelosi and company have to go to these lengths and pull a WEllstone to pass this should tell us everything we need to know. Just kill the bill already.

    rochf (ae9c58)

  27. What’s wrong with naming a school or something after him as a tribute, like everyone else?

    As long as it’s an underperforming public school whose students have no shot at leaving on some kind of publicly-funded voucher, that would be highly appropriate. Especially if all the staff of the school sends their own kids to private schools.

    JVW (d1215a)

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  29. What nk said! double dittoes!

    PatAZ (9d1bb3)

  30. Denounced and condemned.

    I continue to maintain my silence.

    Racists

    JD (5ea885)

  31. Pure class.

    Sunburn (5d93e3)

  32. No, you most certainly could not be described in such a manner, sunshine. Not on your best day.

    JD (682dfa)

  33. I’m reminded of a line from “The Shootist”, delivered by Henry Morgan as the town sheriff:

    “What I’ll put on your grave won’t pass for flowers.”

    mojo (8096f2)

  34. Here’s my proposed slogan: “If we pass TeddyCare,

    Chappaquicare

    James (fe056a)

  35. Here’s the townhall vid where Dean admits that the Dems won’t take on the trial lawyers – shocka!

    http://www.cnsnews.com/home

    And Sunbeyootch proves once again that his mind is a terrible thing to waste paying any attention to.

    Dmac (e6d1c2)

  36. Pure class.
    Shut your lying hole.

    Apogee (e2dc9b)

  37. “Is it OK yet for me to point out that the guy they want to designate their Patron Saint of Health Care . . . is (other than war veterans) the one guy in Congress who killed someone?”

    How does that impact the health care debate though?

    imdw (60954d)

  38. imdw, the democrats think that honoring Ted Kennedy is somehow relevant to the health care debate. Showing them that Ted Kennedy is not worthy of honor shuts them down right quick, but you’re right that the democrats are being asinine to slap some corpse on their unpopular bill and pretend we should get teary eyed.

    Juan (bd4b30)

  39. “imdw, the democrats think that honoring Ted Kennedy is somehow relevant to the health care debate. ”

    Are you familiar with his role in health care policy?

    imdw (017d51)

  40. imdw, either he is relevant or he isn’t relevant. You’re being absolutely obtuse.

    You are simply a committed partisan, unlike me. If the dems want to use this bill to honor a killer, that is a reason to oppose the bill until it isn’t used to honor killers. The people have a right to condemn a killer, whether he’s one of your heroes or not.

    Juan (bd4b30)

  41. “imdw, either he is relevant or he isn’t relevant”

    And this relevancy would be because of his role in health care policy. Are you familiar with that?

    imdw (cd5d35)

  42. You’re being nonresponsive, which makes sense because you don’t have an argument. His relevancy is his constant push to expand the government’s spending and power, and a consistent tendency to be wrong about the results of his policies.

    what was Ted’s last big hurrah? NCLB. time and time again, though, Ted’s drastically understated the cost and overstated the benefits of huge entitlement program disasters. He isn’t a leader on health care. He was just a powerful bloat fan. His involvement in this issue is not unlike his involvement with any other entitlement program. It’s sad but predictable that the dems will revise history. All I care about is that this man should not be honored.

    Juan (bd4b30)

  43. “what was Ted’s last big hurrah? NCLB. time and time again, though, Ted’s drastically understated the cost and overstated the benefits of huge entitlement program disasters.”

    I thought he was a fool to strike that deal with Dubya. Related to healthcare, we have COBRA at least. That’s nice. And relatedly, the American’s with Disabilities Act.

    imdw (e6c812)

  44. thanks. IMDW. Ted Kennedy’s ideas are often foolish. That is his relevance to his debate, insofar as he liked this extremely foolish and unpopular bill.

    I suspect you just don’t like NCLB because it was tainted by Bush, but that’s probably unfair of me.

    Juan (bd4b30)

  45. “Aside from the disruption from that nutbag abortion protester Randall Terry, it’s pretty hilarious. ”

    What do mean ASIDE, I’d say his participation added a lot to the entertainment value of that particular Moranic event. And as the bumper sticker said …
    Dean people suck.

    Travis Monitor (8d33ce)

  46. “What’s wrong with naming a school or something after him as a tribute, like everyone else?”

    Kennedy school for boors and bartenders. Gotcha.

    Travis Monitor (8d33ce)

  47. I thought he was a fool to strike that deal with Dubya. Related to healthcare, we have COBRA at least. That’s nice. And relatedly, the American’s with Disabilities Act.

    ____________________________________

    Which, despite costing the people of this country a very large amount of money indeed, both in government spending and punitive regulation, has not raised the number of disabled Americans in the workforce at all. Thus, it is a failure.

    But it’s “nice”, and that is all you care about. It sounds nice, nice people support it, and forget all that heartless talk about costs, benefits, and results. Empirical data is racist…or hateful…or something mean!

    Britt (8d5885)

  48. And relatedly, the American’s with Disabilities Act.

    As much the work of Bob Dole as of Ted K., but one thing Teddy (and all Kennedys) excelled at was taking credit for the work of others. I think that is what attracted him to Obama — he saw a kindred spirit in that regard.

    JVW (4f7700)

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  50. Good slogan.

    Apropos the LAT’s front page, I’d like to amend it … ripping off shamelessly from the Spinal Tap liner notes … Ted Kennedy leaves a much needed void.

    hortense (aka horace) (235454)

  51. Limbaugh was simply extraordinary yesterday. He pointed out in detail just how Kennedy’s fight for life would not be possible for the elderly ill under ObamaCare.

    “Now, Obama has said, well, we can’t look at that because costs just are too high . . . Well, Ted Kennedy’s spirit was to live and he chose to exercise as many options as were available to him to prolong his life. And to put his name on a health care bill that denies that to other people and say, “We’re doing this in his memory” is hypocrisy, and it would be insulting to his memory. . . Ted Kennedy didn’t have a death book. Ted Kennedy wasn’t asked to say, ‘Is my life worth living?’ His life was worth living, to him and his family.”

    Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407)

  52. “I suspect you just don’t like NCLB because it was tainted by Bush, but that’s probably unfair of me.”

    I don’t like the idea of federal testing, and how schools now have to do so much to teach to tests.

    [note: fished from spam filter]

    imdw (be85b6)

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