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		<title>By: Netsol Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It&#8217;s OK to Lie &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Netsol Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It&#8217;s OK to Lie &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Or misrepresenting just about everything. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rochf</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/08/11/correcting-misinformation-about-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-536606</link>
		<dc:creator>rochf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got an email from Durbin&#039;s office--the senator does not plan on holding any town hall meetings, but I&#039;m free to monitor his website and contact them about any issues that concern me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got an email from Durbin&#8217;s office&#8211;the senator does not plan on holding any town hall meetings, but I&#8217;m free to monitor his website and contact them about any issues that concern me!</p>
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		<title>By: Pons Asinorum</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/08/11/correcting-misinformation-about-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-536598</link>
		<dc:creator>Pons Asinorum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#29 -- Comment by Geneva — 8/12/2009 @ 4:15 am

I am a democrat and I hate you all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I often wondered about that. How can Americans hate fellow Americans for supporting and voting for a political party, just as they are doing?  

Mrs. Palin did speak the truth; she was vilified, insulted, and attacked, as were her children. There was a time when such behavior was considered horrid, but hatred allows one the ability to ignore such depravity (even justify it).

Hate is a powerful emotion that has its place and can fill an important need. In American politics however, perhaps such a base emotion should have no place and instead substitute logic and reason.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I live in a very blue district here in Ohio.

All these rhetorics about costs and federal budget will never ring a bell to us. BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE SINNERS TOO.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I believe your statement and agree that “Republicans are sinners too”. 

I am curious though, if you would be so kind as to supply the rationalization, why would this preclude a person for supporting a politician (regardless of party) who is trying to solve such a problem? Conversely, why support a politician who is adding to the problem?

&lt;blockquote&gt;But when that so-called “idiot” and “immoral” Palin hit the HR3200 by the so-called “DEATH PANEL” almost half of my bluish neighbor have become agitated, including my family.

SHE HIT THE HOME ON THIS ONE. She has a point.

My family has experienced this death panel under MEDICARE. It was painful for us to see how we were forced to accept the Doctor’s advice viz. MEDICARE people’s urges.

We were forced to deal emotional pain because of costs at the very most painful moment of our lives … whether to end the life of our very precious beloved family member.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I am sorry for your loss.

&lt;blockquote&gt;In this respect, I salute Sarah Palin.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Welcome from the dark side ;-)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Even if Obamacare is passed, I think Sarah Palin has already gotten a new Democrat supporter (a Hillary fan) in me and in my family.

Credit is where the credit is due.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Health care is in need of reform; credit the President and the Congress for bringing this issue from the back-burner to the front-burner (this national discussion almost certainly would not have happened to this degree under Mr. McCain).

If we could elect politicians who are willing to work together without regard to hidden agendas (like single-payer system), use facts backed by undisputed evidence, draw logical conclusions based on those facts, and use quality management principles (like pilot programs FIRST before committing such a large portion of our wealth and future), then perhaps we could start reducing the problems and increasing care in terms of quality and quantity, in a practical and responsible manner (just my two-cents, but don&#039;t tell the President, he might try to tax it).

I wish you well, Geneva.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#29 &#8212; Comment by Geneva — 8/12/2009 @ 4:15 am</p>
<p>I am a democrat and I hate you all.</p></blockquote>
<p>I often wondered about that. How can Americans hate fellow Americans for supporting and voting for a political party, just as they are doing?  </p>
<p>Mrs. Palin did speak the truth; she was vilified, insulted, and attacked, as were her children. There was a time when such behavior was considered horrid, but hatred allows one the ability to ignore such depravity (even justify it).</p>
<p>Hate is a powerful emotion that has its place and can fill an important need. In American politics however, perhaps such a base emotion should have no place and instead substitute logic and reason.</p>
<blockquote><p>I live in a very blue district here in Ohio.</p>
<p>All these rhetorics about costs and federal budget will never ring a bell to us. BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE SINNERS TOO.</p></blockquote>
<p>I believe your statement and agree that “Republicans are sinners too”. </p>
<p>I am curious though, if you would be so kind as to supply the rationalization, why would this preclude a person for supporting a politician (regardless of party) who is trying to solve such a problem? Conversely, why support a politician who is adding to the problem?</p>
<blockquote><p>But when that so-called “idiot” and “immoral” Palin hit the HR3200 by the so-called “DEATH PANEL” almost half of my bluish neighbor have become agitated, including my family.</p>
<p>SHE HIT THE HOME ON THIS ONE. She has a point.</p>
<p>My family has experienced this death panel under MEDICARE. It was painful for us to see how we were forced to accept the Doctor’s advice viz. MEDICARE people’s urges.</p>
<p>We were forced to deal emotional pain because of costs at the very most painful moment of our lives … whether to end the life of our very precious beloved family member.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am sorry for your loss.</p>
<blockquote><p>In this respect, I salute Sarah Palin.</p></blockquote>
<p>Welcome from the dark side <img src='http://patterico.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>Even if Obamacare is passed, I think Sarah Palin has already gotten a new Democrat supporter (a Hillary fan) in me and in my family.</p>
<p>Credit is where the credit is due.</p></blockquote>
<p>Health care is in need of reform; credit the President and the Congress for bringing this issue from the back-burner to the front-burner (this national discussion almost certainly would not have happened to this degree under Mr. McCain).</p>
<p>If we could elect politicians who are willing to work together without regard to hidden agendas (like single-payer system), use facts backed by undisputed evidence, draw logical conclusions based on those facts, and use quality management principles (like pilot programs FIRST before committing such a large portion of our wealth and future), then perhaps we could start reducing the problems and increasing care in terms of quality and quantity, in a practical and responsible manner (just my two-cents, but don&#8217;t tell the President, he might try to tax it).</p>
<p>I wish you well, Geneva.</p>
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		<title>By: PCD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan,

I got the pic in an email from a friend.  If anyone wants a copy, I&#039;ll be happy to forward it on.  Send requests to PCDWhoopass@yahoo.com

Oh, Patterico, DRJ, Karl and anyone else who moderates here.  Don&#039;t worry about this email address.  It is the one I give out because the Democrats have already spamed it repeated times for over the 10 years I had it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan,</p>
<p>I got the pic in an email from a friend.  If anyone wants a copy, I&#8217;ll be happy to forward it on.  Send requests to <a href="mailto:PCDWhoopass@yahoo.com">PCDWhoopass@yahoo.com</a></p>
<p>Oh, Patterico, DRJ, Karl and anyone else who moderates here.  Don&#8217;t worry about this email address.  It is the one I give out because the Democrats have already spamed it repeated times for over the 10 years I had it.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not hate you, Geneva, but you did prove a point for us.  We have long known that though we thin the Left is wrong, the Left simply hates us.  Good on you for admitting that.  Do you speak English?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not hate you, Geneva, but you did prove a point for us.  We have long known that though we thin the Left is wrong, the Left simply hates us.  Good on you for admitting that.  Do you speak English?</p>
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		<title>By: Geneva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a democrat and I hate you all.

I live in a very blue district here in Ohio.

All these rhetorics about costs and federal budget will never ring a bell to us.  BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE SINNERS TOO.

But when that so-called &quot;idiot&quot; and &quot;immoral&quot; Palin hit the HR3200 by the so-called &quot;DEATH PANEL&quot; almost half of my bluish neighbor have become agitated, including my family.

SHE HIT THE HOME ON THIS ONE.  She has a point.

My family has experienced this death panel under MEDICARE.    It was painful for us to see how we were forced to accept the Doctor&#039;s advice viz. MEDICARE people&#039;s urges. 

We were forced to deal emotional pain because of  costs at the very most painful moment of our lives ... whether to end the life of our very precious beloved family member.

In this respect, I salute Sarah Palin.

Even if Obamacare is passed, I think Sarah Palin has already gotten a new Democrat supporter (a Hillary fan) in me and in my family.

Credit is where the credit is due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a democrat and I hate you all.</p>
<p>I live in a very blue district here in Ohio.</p>
<p>All these rhetorics about costs and federal budget will never ring a bell to us.  BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE SINNERS TOO.</p>
<p>But when that so-called &#8220;idiot&#8221; and &#8220;immoral&#8221; Palin hit the HR3200 by the so-called &#8220;DEATH PANEL&#8221; almost half of my bluish neighbor have become agitated, including my family.</p>
<p>SHE HIT THE HOME ON THIS ONE.  She has a point.</p>
<p>My family has experienced this death panel under MEDICARE.    It was painful for us to see how we were forced to accept the Doctor&#8217;s advice viz. MEDICARE people&#8217;s urges. </p>
<p>We were forced to deal emotional pain because of  costs at the very most painful moment of our lives &#8230; whether to end the life of our very precious beloved family member.</p>
<p>In this respect, I salute Sarah Palin.</p>
<p>Even if Obamacare is passed, I think Sarah Palin has already gotten a new Democrat supporter (a Hillary fan) in me and in my family.</p>
<p>Credit is where the credit is due.</p>
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		<title>By: Pons Asinorum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pons Asinorum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Mr. Karl!

--

The President’s &quot;death panels&quot; denial is peculiar in light of his choice for Health Czar. Czar Emanuel not only endorses the idea, he has studied it and has prepared justifications for it.

Here is Czar Emanuel&#039;s (and his two buddies&#039;) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/PIIS0140673609601379.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; and here is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140673609601379/images?imageId=gr1&amp;sectionType=green&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;graph&lt;/a&gt; from that article.

Warning: there is some pretty sick stuff in his article (the philosophical reasoning is right out of the Third Reich and gave me a headache).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Mr. Karl!</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>The President’s &#8220;death panels&#8221; denial is peculiar in light of his choice for Health Czar. Czar Emanuel not only endorses the idea, he has studied it and has prepared justifications for it.</p>
<p>Here is Czar Emanuel&#8217;s (and his two buddies&#8217;) <a href="http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/PIIS0140673609601379.pdf" rel="nofollow">article</a> and here is a <a href="http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140673609601379/images?imageId=gr1&amp;sectionType=green" rel="nofollow">graph</a> from that article.</p>
<p>Warning: there is some pretty sick stuff in his article (the philosophical reasoning is right out of the Third Reich and gave me a headache).</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...and I mean it.&quot;

Oh, okay, now I feel better.

Unless he had his fingers crossed when he said that. Then we&#039;re in big trouble again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;and I mean it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, okay, now I feel better.</p>
<p>Unless he had his fingers crossed when he said that. Then we&#8217;re in big trouble again.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am doing my duty to ensure that your posts are sent straight to flag@whitehouse.gov... Bloggers should have a contest to see how many posts they get sent into the misinformation squad er White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am doing my duty to ensure that your posts are sent straight to <a href="mailto:flag@whitehouse.gov">flag@whitehouse.gov</a>&#8230; Bloggers should have a contest to see how many posts they get sent into the misinformation squad er White House.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see:  bailouts, pork stimulous, quadrupled budget deficit.  I just don&#039;t understand why these rowdy senior citizens are so upset by the politicians selling another giant government boondoggle.  Don&#039;t they realize that politicians know what is best for Americans.  Politicians have the best lobbyists advising them.  Don&#039;t these seniors TRUST the politicians?  I am shocked and appalled, my goodness!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see:  bailouts, pork stimulous, quadrupled budget deficit.  I just don&#8217;t understand why these rowdy senior citizens are so upset by the politicians selling another giant government boondoggle.  Don&#8217;t they realize that politicians know what is best for Americans.  Politicians have the best lobbyists advising them.  Don&#8217;t these seniors TRUST the politicians?  I am shocked and appalled, my goodness!</p>
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