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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teh Narrative is strong strong strong in shanon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teh Narrative is strong strong strong in shanon.</p>
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		<title>By: shanonsgranfalloon</title>
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		<dc:creator>shanonsgranfalloon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Mike K., but your comment about Pelosi censoring constituent mail is nothing but pure GOP propaganda.  It has never happened, more importantly there exists no mechinism for it to happen.  Pelosi has no way of even seeing GOP - constituent correspondence before it is sent much less censoring it.  Every congressional office deals directly with their own constituent mail. I used to be an aid to Rep. John Kasich (R-Oh)...I wrote over 700 constituent letters on behalf of the congressman; I know what I&#039;m talking about and you clearly do not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Mike K., but your comment about Pelosi censoring constituent mail is nothing but pure GOP propaganda.  It has never happened, more importantly there exists no mechinism for it to happen.  Pelosi has no way of even seeing GOP &#8211; constituent correspondence before it is sent much less censoring it.  Every congressional office deals directly with their own constituent mail. I used to be an aid to Rep. John Kasich (R-Oh)&#8230;I wrote over 700 constituent letters on behalf of the congressman; I know what I&#8217;m talking about and you clearly do not.</p>
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		<title>By: shanonsgranfalloon</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/07/23/the-real-fail-of-the-obama-presser/comment-page-3/#comment-524546</link>
		<dc:creator>shanonsgranfalloon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest lie ever sold to America: &quot;We can&#039;t socialize medicine.&quot;  Wake up America.  We&#039;re the only G8 country who doesn&#039;t have socialized medicine and we have higher infant mortality, less access to health care, and shorter life expectency as a result.  I work in the health insurance biz...its a huge scam.  You think your insurance is great until you get sick.  The health insurance cos are not their to keep you alive...youre worth more to them dead than sick.  They exist for the stockholder not their custoemers.  Their spending a million a day lobbying DC to keep their big lie afloat.  Wake up America, you&#039;ve been had!  Demand health care now!  We could easily afford it if we stopped invading country&#039;s at the request of Halliburton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest lie ever sold to America: &#8220;We can&#8217;t socialize medicine.&#8221;  Wake up America.  We&#8217;re the only G8 country who doesn&#8217;t have socialized medicine and we have higher infant mortality, less access to health care, and shorter life expectency as a result.  I work in the health insurance biz&#8230;its a huge scam.  You think your insurance is great until you get sick.  The health insurance cos are not their to keep you alive&#8230;youre worth more to them dead than sick.  They exist for the stockholder not their custoemers.  Their spending a million a day lobbying DC to keep their big lie afloat.  Wake up America, you&#8217;ve been had!  Demand health care now!  We could easily afford it if we stopped invading country&#8217;s at the request of Halliburton.</p>
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		<title>By: MIke K</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/07/23/the-real-fail-of-the-obama-presser/comment-page-3/#comment-523546</link>
		<dc:creator>MIke K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The health care bill in the House is probably dead. Today the Blue Dogs stormed out of the committee saying that &lt;a href=&quot;http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/house-healthcare-talks-break-down-in-anger-2009-07-24.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Waxman is lying to them&lt;/a&gt;.

Henry, lie ?

Ooooh Noooo !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The health care bill in the House is probably dead. Today the Blue Dogs stormed out of the committee saying that <a href="http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/house-healthcare-talks-break-down-in-anger-2009-07-24.html" rel="nofollow"> Waxman is lying to them</a>.</p>
<p>Henry, lie ?</p>
<p>Ooooh Noooo !</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike K - They really are breath-taking in their mendacity, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike K &#8211; They really are breath-taking in their mendacity, no?</p>
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		<title>By: MIke K</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/07/23/the-real-fail-of-the-obama-presser/comment-page-3/#comment-523328</link>
		<dc:creator>MIke K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One way to win the battle is to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32856&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; censor Congressmen&#039;s mailings&lt;/a&gt;. Republican Congress members are not being allowed to send constituent mail that contains the term &quot;government run health care.&quot; If they use that term, instead of Pelosi approved &quot;public option&quot;, they have to pay for the postage.

I wonder what Ben Franklin would think ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way to win the battle is to <a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32856" rel="nofollow"> censor Congressmen&#8217;s mailings</a>. Republican Congress members are not being allowed to send constituent mail that contains the term &#8220;government run health care.&#8221; If they use that term, instead of Pelosi approved &#8220;public option&#8221;, they have to pay for the postage.</p>
<p>I wonder what Ben Franklin would think ?</p>
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		<title>By: voiceofreason2</title>
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		<dc:creator>voiceofreason2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article at
http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14082968</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article at<br />
<a href="http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14082968" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14082968</a></p>
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		<title>By: Corwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is also an approach reinforced by Obama’s career, in which he has been greatly rewarded for frequently voting “present.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This was my wife’s comment as we watched the conference.  She was much more behind him – now, she too, sees the lack of leadership and experience.  We (not me personally, but we the American people) elected Barack.  Now we are paying for that folly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is also an approach reinforced by Obama’s career, in which he has been greatly rewarded for frequently voting “present.”</p></blockquote>
<p>This was my wife’s comment as we watched the conference.  She was much more behind him – now, she too, sees the lack of leadership and experience.  We (not me personally, but we the American people) elected Barack.  Now we are paying for that folly.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notice how Obama condemns doctors for being greedy?  Our doctors have given us a miracle of science.  

And what does Presidente Zero offer us, those uber caring, hard working government bureaucrats.  Unnamed drones will decide what treatment you get or don&#039;t.

But no appeal.

Medical schools will have to take &quot;selected&quot; minorities (Asians, Jews, etc need not apply).

You will join the government approved healthcare program.

Loss your job or your firm drops insurance, the government will prohibit you from getting new insurance.

Too old in the opinion of some bureaucrat for cancer treatment, well just take a number and die quietly.

The government runs the VA and Indian Reservation system medical systems.  Does anyone really want care at that level?

Has anyone actually been subjected to the UK or Canadian systems?  I have the UK system makes do it yourself denistry a good idea.  Exams by specialists in your dreams.

Once Obama has you under his thumb there will be no appeal, no help, just zip.  Frustrated by trying to get your Congressman to do something.

Imagine your health system but even more unresponsive because that is what it is designed to do.

Obama is a Marxist and the people who elected him are the biggest dullards in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice how Obama condemns doctors for being greedy?  Our doctors have given us a miracle of science.  </p>
<p>And what does Presidente Zero offer us, those uber caring, hard working government bureaucrats.  Unnamed drones will decide what treatment you get or don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>But no appeal.</p>
<p>Medical schools will have to take &#8220;selected&#8221; minorities (Asians, Jews, etc need not apply).</p>
<p>You will join the government approved healthcare program.</p>
<p>Loss your job or your firm drops insurance, the government will prohibit you from getting new insurance.</p>
<p>Too old in the opinion of some bureaucrat for cancer treatment, well just take a number and die quietly.</p>
<p>The government runs the VA and Indian Reservation system medical systems.  Does anyone really want care at that level?</p>
<p>Has anyone actually been subjected to the UK or Canadian systems?  I have the UK system makes do it yourself denistry a good idea.  Exams by specialists in your dreams.</p>
<p>Once Obama has you under his thumb there will be no appeal, no help, just zip.  Frustrated by trying to get your Congressman to do something.</p>
<p>Imagine your health system but even more unresponsive because that is what it is designed to do.</p>
<p>Obama is a Marxist and the people who elected him are the biggest dullards in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Eternal Leftist Conceit.&lt;/i&gt;

Heartily endorsed and happily funded by ambulance chasers throughout America.
&lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Charles Kauthammer, July 24, 2009:

This [Obama-led agenda on healthcare reform] is not about politics? Then why is it, to take but the most egregious example, that in this grand health-care debate we hear not a word about one of the worst sources of waste in American medicine: the &lt;b&gt;insane cost and arbitrary rewards of our malpractice system&lt;/b&gt;? 

When a neurosurgeon pays $200,000 a year for malpractice insurance before he even turns on the light in his office or hires his first nurse, &lt;b&gt;who do you think pays&lt;/b&gt;? Patients, in higher doctor fees to cover the insurance. 

And with jackpot justice that awards one claimant zillions while others get nothing -- and &lt;b&gt;one-third of everything goes to the lawyers&lt;/b&gt; -- where do you think that money comes from? The insurance companies, which then pass it on to you in higher premiums. 

But the greatest waste is the hidden cost of defensive medicine: tests and procedures that doctors order for no good reason other than to &lt;b&gt;protect themselves from lawsuits&lt;/b&gt;. Every doctor knows, as I did when I practiced years ago, how much unnecessary medical cost is incurred with an eye not on medicine but on the law. 

Tort reform would yield tens of billions in savings. Yet you cannot find it in the Democratic bills. And Obama breathed not a word about it in the full hour of his health-care news conference. Why? No mystery. The &lt;b&gt;Democrats are parasitically dependent on huge donations from trial lawyers&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Eternal Leftist Conceit.</i></p>
<p>Heartily endorsed and happily funded by ambulance chasers throughout America.<br />
<i><br />
<blockquote>Charles Kauthammer, July 24, 2009:</p>
<p>This [Obama-led agenda on healthcare reform] is not about politics? Then why is it, to take but the most egregious example, that in this grand health-care debate we hear not a word about one of the worst sources of waste in American medicine: the <b>insane cost and arbitrary rewards of our malpractice system</b>? </p>
<p>When a neurosurgeon pays $200,000 a year for malpractice insurance before he even turns on the light in his office or hires his first nurse, <b>who do you think pays</b>? Patients, in higher doctor fees to cover the insurance. </p>
<p>And with jackpot justice that awards one claimant zillions while others get nothing &#8212; and <b>one-third of everything goes to the lawyers</b> &#8212; where do you think that money comes from? The insurance companies, which then pass it on to you in higher premiums. </p>
<p>But the greatest waste is the hidden cost of defensive medicine: tests and procedures that doctors order for no good reason other than to <b>protect themselves from lawsuits</b>. Every doctor knows, as I did when I practiced years ago, how much unnecessary medical cost is incurred with an eye not on medicine but on the law. </p>
<p>Tort reform would yield tens of billions in savings. Yet you cannot find it in the Democratic bills. And Obama breathed not a word about it in the full hour of his health-care news conference. Why? No mystery. The <b>Democrats are parasitically dependent on huge donations from trial lawyers</b>.</p></blockquote>
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