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		<title>By: ~ Dear President Obama: Who Do You Think You Are, Gambling Away My Grandchildren&#8217;s Future On Socialized Health Care? &#171; Critical Political Thinking</title>
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		<dc:creator>~ Dear President Obama: Who Do You Think You Are, Gambling Away My Grandchildren&#8217;s Future On Socialized Health Care? &#171; Critical Political Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pontifications: What’s the Price of Tomorrow? Obama to flog his faltering takeover of healthcare State Medical Associations Oppose [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Holt</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/07/21/whats-the-price-of-tomorrow/comment-page-2/#comment-522425</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Holt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health care is a basic human right. As such, it is incumbent on our governments to provide the best possible care for the least cost. Here in Queensland, Australia, where I live we used to have free health care. The whole thing was subsidized by a Qld government lottery. Then some politicians in Canberra decided to make the whole country conform to a single medical policy. Our right to free medical care was taken away and we now have to pay a portion of the fees while the federal government pays the rest. 

In my humble opinion, this is not a good solution. It&#039;s time we reformed our medical service here too. It is slow, not very good, and people die waiting for treatment. 

I lived in Thailand for 30 years, where the treatment is instant, professional, and of a much higher standard than can be had in the West. 

This issue is too serious for us to let it go. We need to put more and more pressure on our governments to provide the BEST health care for US....not for the insurance companies. And the BEST health care should provide a decent living for health care professionals so that they are encouraged to give their best. This is not rocket science. Keep up the good fight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health care is a basic human right. As such, it is incumbent on our governments to provide the best possible care for the least cost. Here in Queensland, Australia, where I live we used to have free health care. The whole thing was subsidized by a Qld government lottery. Then some politicians in Canberra decided to make the whole country conform to a single medical policy. Our right to free medical care was taken away and we now have to pay a portion of the fees while the federal government pays the rest. </p>
<p>In my humble opinion, this is not a good solution. It&#8217;s time we reformed our medical service here too. It is slow, not very good, and people die waiting for treatment. </p>
<p>I lived in Thailand for 30 years, where the treatment is instant, professional, and of a much higher standard than can be had in the West. </p>
<p>This issue is too serious for us to let it go. We need to put more and more pressure on our governments to provide the BEST health care for US&#8230;.not for the insurance companies. And the BEST health care should provide a decent living for health care professionals so that they are encouraged to give their best. This is not rocket science. Keep up the good fight!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike K</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/07/21/whats-the-price-of-tomorrow/comment-page-2/#comment-522208</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of you might be interested in &lt;a href=&quot;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzU2NmFkY2EyNTAwNGM0NGM0ZDQ4ZDNjNTA2NWU3MTM=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; the new rules for &quot;counseling the elderly&lt;/a&gt;.

Did you change the spam rules about links ? My posts that disappeared had links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you might be interested in <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzU2NmFkY2EyNTAwNGM0NGM0ZDQ4ZDNjNTA2NWU3MTM=" rel="nofollow"> the new rules for &#8220;counseling the elderly</a>.</p>
<p>Did you change the spam rules about links ? My posts that disappeared had links.</p>
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		<title>By: harleycowboy</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/07/21/whats-the-price-of-tomorrow/comment-page-2/#comment-522170</link>
		<dc:creator>harleycowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your quality of care in old age will depend upon who you are (politician) or what you are (member of the intelligentsia)under DUH Ones plan. The rest of us will be &quot;expendable&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your quality of care in old age will depend upon who you are (politician) or what you are (member of the intelligentsia)under DUH Ones plan. The rest of us will be &#8220;expendable&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/07/21/whats-the-price-of-tomorrow/comment-page-2/#comment-522162</link>
		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gesundheit, so you are not wishing on a fairy like DCSCA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gesundheit, so you are not wishing on a fairy like DCSCA.</p>
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		<title>By: Gesundheit</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/07/21/whats-the-price-of-tomorrow/comment-page-2/#comment-522133</link>
		<dc:creator>Gesundheit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering where I can buy a &quot;Keep Your Laws Off My Body&quot; bumper sticker these days.

DCSCA said, &quot;On the other hand one can envision your friend would have been granted every necessary treatment in those final six months at a lower cost.&quot; I suppose you could, if you are painfully naive. I was born on a Tuesday... but it wasn&#039;t last Tuesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering where I can buy a &#8220;Keep Your Laws Off My Body&#8221; bumper sticker these days.</p>
<p>DCSCA said, &#8220;On the other hand one can envision your friend would have been granted every necessary treatment in those final six months at a lower cost.&#8221; I suppose you could, if you are painfully naive. I was born on a Tuesday&#8230; but it wasn&#8217;t last Tuesday.</p>
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		<title>By: mer</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/07/21/whats-the-price-of-tomorrow/comment-page-2/#comment-522120</link>
		<dc:creator>mer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Let Nature take it&#039;s course&quot;;  that is acceptable if it is the individual (and spouse/family) making that decision on the perceived quality of life.  It is completely unacceptable for a faceless beancounter to make that decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let Nature take it&#8217;s course&#8221;;  that is acceptable if it is the individual (and spouse/family) making that decision on the perceived quality of life.  It is completely unacceptable for a faceless beancounter to make that decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing that it took a while for the socialists to get their stories straight before they came here to try to shame us in believing that were are all heartless bastards because we do not want socialized medicine.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;NEWS FLASH!!!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;  I am a heartless bastard, and damn proud of it.  I see no reason to give control of my life over to a bunch of government bureaucrats.

What ever happened to &quot;My body, my choice&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing that it took a while for the socialists to get their stories straight before they came here to try to shame us in believing that were are all heartless bastards because we do not want socialized medicine.</p>
<p><b><i>NEWS FLASH!!!</i></b>  I am a heartless bastard, and damn proud of it.  I see no reason to give control of my life over to a bunch of government bureaucrats.</p>
<p>What ever happened to &#8220;My body, my choice&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: cubanbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>cubanbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one born and raised in this country and who has reached the age of 25 has the right to be poor unless they are physically or mentally handicapped or have an otherwise debilitating illness. Anyone who is poor and over 25 without those extenuating circumstances should be cut loose and they can sink or swim on their own.  Old folks who worked all their lives, paid taxes all those years should not in the last year of life be kicked aside like a dog so bums can get their welfare subsidies.
Anyone who can afford beer and cigarettes can afford vaccines and basic insurance for their children, Its time to cut the parasites off the public teat.

Only democrats can be stupid enough to believe that in a country of 300 million in which 45 million lack coverage ( a debatable proposition but for the sake of discussion accept as true) that by increasing the demand by 15% without increasing the supply of doctors everyone will have better care.

Only democrats can be stupid enough to believe that that capping a doctors income but not capping his or hers expenses and liabilities is going to induce kids mortgaging themselves for upwards $300,000 in university, medical school, residential training and forgoing (depending on the specialty) upwards 7 years of training after medical school before they earn a real dollar number one and having a much shorter working careers to recoup the expenses is going to volunteer to go in to medicine. As Mark Twain once said &quot;suppose you were a liberal democrat and suppose you were an idiot but then again I repeat myself&quot;.

Get ready to go to India in a few years if you want top medical care and you have the cash to pay for it.  The Brits are already doing that in many cases for elective surgery. Thailand also offers medical tourism as well.  God help us and spare us from the communists and envy ridden class warriors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one born and raised in this country and who has reached the age of 25 has the right to be poor unless they are physically or mentally handicapped or have an otherwise debilitating illness. Anyone who is poor and over 25 without those extenuating circumstances should be cut loose and they can sink or swim on their own.  Old folks who worked all their lives, paid taxes all those years should not in the last year of life be kicked aside like a dog so bums can get their welfare subsidies.<br />
Anyone who can afford beer and cigarettes can afford vaccines and basic insurance for their children, Its time to cut the parasites off the public teat.</p>
<p>Only democrats can be stupid enough to believe that in a country of 300 million in which 45 million lack coverage ( a debatable proposition but for the sake of discussion accept as true) that by increasing the demand by 15% without increasing the supply of doctors everyone will have better care.</p>
<p>Only democrats can be stupid enough to believe that that capping a doctors income but not capping his or hers expenses and liabilities is going to induce kids mortgaging themselves for upwards $300,000 in university, medical school, residential training and forgoing (depending on the specialty) upwards 7 years of training after medical school before they earn a real dollar number one and having a much shorter working careers to recoup the expenses is going to volunteer to go in to medicine. As Mark Twain once said &#8220;suppose you were a liberal democrat and suppose you were an idiot but then again I repeat myself&#8221;.</p>
<p>Get ready to go to India in a few years if you want top medical care and you have the cash to pay for it.  The Brits are already doing that in many cases for elective surgery. Thailand also offers medical tourism as well.  God help us and spare us from the communists and envy ridden class warriors.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DCSCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;One can envision that had the health-care regime now under consideration in Congress already been in place, my friend would have been denied much of the treatment he received in those final six months.&lt;/i&gt; On the other hand one can envision your friend would have been granted every necessary treatment in those final six months at a lower cost. Sorry for the loss of your friend. 91 incredible years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>One can envision that had the health-care regime now under consideration in Congress already been in place, my friend would have been denied much of the treatment he received in those final six months.</i> On the other hand one can envision your friend would have been granted every necessary treatment in those final six months at a lower cost. Sorry for the loss of your friend. 91 incredible years.</p>
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