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	<title>Comments on: Why an Obamacare “Public Plan” should be an easy target</title>
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		<title>By: The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; ObamaCare: Fuzzy polling and fuzzy pollsters</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/24/why-an-obamacare-%e2%80%9cpublic-plan%e2%80%9d-should-be-an-easy-target/comment-page-1/#comment-590813</link>
		<dc:creator>The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; ObamaCare: Fuzzy polling and fuzzy pollsters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a follow-up question. As it turns out, the popularity of the &#8220;public option&#8221; tends to plummet when follow-ups are asked. Indeed, the same is true of ObamaCare generally, if you ask people to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a follow-up question. As it turns out, the popularity of the &#8220;public option&#8221; tends to plummet when follow-ups are asked. Indeed, the same is true of ObamaCare generally, if you ask people to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications &#187; ObamaCare astroturfers deliver bad news for Democrats</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/24/why-an-obamacare-%e2%80%9cpublic-plan%e2%80%9d-should-be-an-easy-target/comment-page-1/#comment-559784</link>
		<dc:creator>Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications &#187; ObamaCare astroturfers deliver bad news for Democrats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a public option. Support also craters when people are reminded that the government-run plan is a Trojan horse for single-payer, Canadian-style [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a public option. Support also craters when people are reminded that the government-run plan is a Trojan horse for single-payer, Canadian-style [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; ObamaCare astroturfers deliver bad news for Democrats</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/24/why-an-obamacare-%e2%80%9cpublic-plan%e2%80%9d-should-be-an-easy-target/comment-page-1/#comment-558966</link>
		<dc:creator>The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; ObamaCare astroturfers deliver bad news for Democrats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a public option. Support also craters when people are reminded that the government-run plan is a Trojan horse for single-payer, Canadian-style [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; Obamacare&#8217;s &#8220;public plan&#8221; is built on a Medicare myth</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/24/why-an-obamacare-%e2%80%9cpublic-plan%e2%80%9d-should-be-an-easy-target/comment-page-1/#comment-516258</link>
		<dc:creator>The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; Obamacare&#8217;s &#8220;public plan&#8221; is built on a Medicare myth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it gets to hide its costs elsewhere in the federal budget. Indeed, that last factor is the sort of unfair competition that is essential to the government-run plan envisioned by the Left. Pres. Obama claims he wants to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it gets to hide its costs elsewhere in the federal budget. Indeed, that last factor is the sort of unfair competition that is essential to the government-run plan envisioned by the Left. Pres. Obama claims he wants to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ObamaCare infomercial: What were they thinking?</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/24/why-an-obamacare-%e2%80%9cpublic-plan%e2%80%9d-should-be-an-easy-target/comment-page-1/#comment-510767</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ObamaCare infomercial: What were they thinking?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] plan without addressing the arguments that such a plan would almost inevitably engage in unfair competition. Obama was not asked whether a public plan would be allowed to fail. He was not asked about the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] plan without addressing the arguments that such a plan would almost inevitably engage in unfair competition. Obama was not asked whether a public plan would be allowed to fail. He was not asked about the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; Obamacare Infomercial: What Were They Thinking?</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/24/why-an-obamacare-%e2%80%9cpublic-plan%e2%80%9d-should-be-an-easy-target/comment-page-1/#comment-510722</link>
		<dc:creator>The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; Obamacare Infomercial: What Were They Thinking?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] plan without addressing the arguments that such a plan would almost inevitably engage in unfair competition. Obama was not asked whether a public plan would be allowed to fail. He was not asked about the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] plan without addressing the arguments that such a plan would almost inevitably engage in unfair competition. Obama was not asked whether a public plan would be allowed to fail. He was not asked about the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/24/why-an-obamacare-%e2%80%9cpublic-plan%e2%80%9d-should-be-an-easy-target/comment-page-1/#comment-510721</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current system is not broken.  We just have widely expanding health care options and they are expensive.  When the perception that health care is a &quot;right&quot; as opposed to a commodity-service like any other, politicians fall over one another to give us those rights.  

Our current system may be flawed, may not get as much care to everyone as we would like, but as Winston Churchill said: &quot;Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms.&quot;  Well our health care system is the same.  

One thing though, Churchill also said:  &quot;The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.&quot;  

I fear we will get the health care system we deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current system is not broken.  We just have widely expanding health care options and they are expensive.  When the perception that health care is a &#8220;right&#8221; as opposed to a commodity-service like any other, politicians fall over one another to give us those rights.  </p>
<p>Our current system may be flawed, may not get as much care to everyone as we would like, but as Winston Churchill said: &#8220;Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms.&#8221;  Well our health care system is the same.  </p>
<p>One thing though, Churchill also said:  &#8220;The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I fear we will get the health care system we deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: Prairie</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/24/why-an-obamacare-%e2%80%9cpublic-plan%e2%80%9d-should-be-an-easy-target/comment-page-1/#comment-510506</link>
		<dc:creator>Prairie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke with an orthopedic doctor today who informed me that his associates will not be seeing anyone OVER the age of 65 if Obama&#039;s healthcare plan takes hold.  He said to expect long waits to see a doctor not to mention medication assistance.
We&#039;re screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke with an orthopedic doctor today who informed me that his associates will not be seeing anyone OVER the age of 65 if Obama&#8217;s healthcare plan takes hold.  He said to expect long waits to see a doctor not to mention medication assistance.<br />
We&#8217;re screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: Gazzer&#8217;s Gabfest &#187; He thinks we&#8217;re idiots. Well, we did elect him.</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/24/why-an-obamacare-%e2%80%9cpublic-plan%e2%80%9d-should-be-an-easy-target/comment-page-1/#comment-510368</link>
		<dc:creator>Gazzer&#8217;s Gabfest &#187; He thinks we&#8217;re idiots. Well, we did elect him.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hot Air has the video of Mr Snippy&#8217;s press conference.  He does not like to be challenged.  More over at Patterico&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hot Air has the video of Mr Snippy&#8217;s press conference.  He does not like to be challenged.  More over at Patterico&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike K,

My earlier point was not that the state mandates are a good thing.  As Hennessey points out, the question is why private insurers should be bound by them if the public plan would not be.  It goes to the notion that a public plan will almost inevitably engage in unfair competition.

As to your first comment, I suppose the question is why anyone who looks at the unfixed messes of medicare will do better with a public plan, esp. after private insurers are driven from the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike K,</p>
<p>My earlier point was not that the state mandates are a good thing.  As Hennessey points out, the question is why private insurers should be bound by them if the public plan would not be.  It goes to the notion that a public plan will almost inevitably engage in unfair competition.</p>
<p>As to your first comment, I suppose the question is why anyone who looks at the unfixed messes of medicare will do better with a public plan, esp. after private insurers are driven from the market.</p>
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