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	<title>Comments on: Obama Getting Tough on North Korea?</title>
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		<title>By: mvatty</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/16/obama-getting-tough-on-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-508038</link>
		<dc:creator>mvatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shall I count the ways that Iran is different than North Korea for you?

1.  North Korea already has nuclear weapons and the capacity to deliver them to at least Japan.

2.  North Korea and South Korea have the most militarized border on the planet with hundreds of thousands of troops within miles of each other.

3.  Seoul is an hour from the DMZ.  Any attack by the North could kill countless persons within minutes.

4.   North Korea is also stocked with chemical weapons ready for delivery.

5.   No matter how repressive the Iranian government is, it does not match the craziness found in North Korea.

6.  North Korea is far more diplomatically isolated and desperate than Iran.

7.  Iran&#039;s politics are far more complex with many more levers to pull than in North Korea.  Iran has many different constituencies and the capacity for positive change is at least extant, as demonstrated by the protests today.  The only possible change in North Korea - at least right now - will be cataclysmic.  

North Korea currently presents a far greater threat to national security - both relating to weapons proliferation and the possibility of mass death - than Iran.  

I don&#039;t claim to have the answers as to how to handle these two very different problems, but to suggest that Obama should not have two distinct policies towards these members of the &quot;axis of evil&quot; suggests some pretty simple thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shall I count the ways that Iran is different than North Korea for you?</p>
<p>1.  North Korea already has nuclear weapons and the capacity to deliver them to at least Japan.</p>
<p>2.  North Korea and South Korea have the most militarized border on the planet with hundreds of thousands of troops within miles of each other.</p>
<p>3.  Seoul is an hour from the DMZ.  Any attack by the North could kill countless persons within minutes.</p>
<p>4.   North Korea is also stocked with chemical weapons ready for delivery.</p>
<p>5.   No matter how repressive the Iranian government is, it does not match the craziness found in North Korea.</p>
<p>6.  North Korea is far more diplomatically isolated and desperate than Iran.</p>
<p>7.  Iran&#8217;s politics are far more complex with many more levers to pull than in North Korea.  Iran has many different constituencies and the capacity for positive change is at least extant, as demonstrated by the protests today.  The only possible change in North Korea &#8211; at least right now &#8211; will be cataclysmic.  </p>
<p>North Korea currently presents a far greater threat to national security &#8211; both relating to weapons proliferation and the possibility of mass death &#8211; than Iran.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t claim to have the answers as to how to handle these two very different problems, but to suggest that Obama should not have two distinct policies towards these members of the &#8220;axis of evil&#8221; suggests some pretty simple thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/16/obama-getting-tough-on-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-507440</link>
		<dc:creator>mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This mook couldn&#039;t &quot;get tough&quot; with a sick kitten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This mook couldn&#8217;t &#8220;get tough&#8221; with a sick kitten.</p>
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		<title>By: rochf</title>
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		<dc:creator>rochf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama isn&#039;t going to get touch on North Korea, Iran or anyone else, unless he can talk them to death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama isn&#8217;t going to get touch on North Korea, Iran or anyone else, unless he can talk them to death.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Scott Eiland</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/16/obama-getting-tough-on-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-507386</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Scott Eiland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone should translate &quot;F**k you, imperialist running dog&quot; into Korean and hand it out to the US ship captains, so that they understand the NK response to The One&#039;s brilliant plan when they hear it over and over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone should translate &#8220;F**k you, imperialist running dog&#8221; into Korean and hand it out to the US ship captains, so that they understand the NK response to The One&#8217;s brilliant plan when they hear it over and over again.</p>
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		<title>By: papertiger</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/16/obama-getting-tough-on-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-507365</link>
		<dc:creator>papertiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s professional courtesy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s professional courtesy.</p>
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		<title>By: papertiger</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/16/obama-getting-tough-on-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-507346</link>
		<dc:creator>papertiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed a subtle change in tone from President Urkle.
He turns the echo box off when addressing tyrants.
I suppose he doesn&#039;t want the ponderous sound of his augmented canyon voice to frighten them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed a subtle change in tone from President Urkle.<br />
He turns the echo box off when addressing tyrants.<br />
I suppose he doesn&#8217;t want the ponderous sound of his augmented canyon voice to frighten them.</p>
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		<title>By: Soronel Haetir</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/16/obama-getting-tough-on-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-507328</link>
		<dc:creator>Soronel Haetir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what exactly is the point of yelling &quot;Hey you!  Stop!&quot;?  The ships are just going to continue off to wherever they are going, the crews laughing at the impotence of the USN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what exactly is the point of yelling &#8220;Hey you!  Stop!&#8221;?  The ships are just going to continue off to wherever they are going, the crews laughing at the impotence of the USN.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, DRJ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, DRJ.</p>
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		<title>By: DRJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DRJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe Obama plans to get tough with North Korea but he does want to look tough before this visit by the conservative South Korean President.  He also wants to demonstrate he appreciates both sides of the Korean situation.  Unfortunately, this leaves the Navy with the thankless and dangerous task of implementing a toothless blockade.  

Obama&#039;s only plan appears to be opening a dialogue with rogue nations and group, and woe be it to anyone or anything that gets in his way.  He clearly believes in his ability to single-handedly solve the most intransigent problems, and nowhere is that more clear than his response following the Iranian election.  

For days, the Obama Administration refused to offer support to the protesters or to criticize the Iranian regime.  Instead, its focus was that &lt;b&gt;nothing would interfere with Obama&#039;s plans to talk to Iran&lt;/b&gt; about its nuclear weapons, regardless of who ends up in control.  Because everything with Obama is about Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe Obama plans to get tough with North Korea but he does want to look tough before this visit by the conservative South Korean President.  He also wants to demonstrate he appreciates both sides of the Korean situation.  Unfortunately, this leaves the Navy with the thankless and dangerous task of implementing a toothless blockade.  </p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s only plan appears to be opening a dialogue with rogue nations and group, and woe be it to anyone or anything that gets in his way.  He clearly believes in his ability to single-handedly solve the most intransigent problems, and nowhere is that more clear than his response following the Iranian election.  </p>
<p>For days, the Obama Administration refused to offer support to the protesters or to criticize the Iranian regime.  Instead, its focus was that <b>nothing would interfere with Obama&#8217;s plans to talk to Iran</b> about its nuclear weapons, regardless of who ends up in control.  Because everything with Obama is about Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Dmac</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2009/06/16/obama-getting-tough-on-north-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-507304</link>
		<dc:creator>Dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But see, when Obama acted like he really wasn&#039;t getting serious about NK earlier, in fact it was just the opposite...and when he mealy - mouthed his tepid whatevers to the Iranian citizens being killed in the streets, what he really &lt;i&gt;meant&lt;/i&gt; was...blah, blah, blah. Teh One&#039;s never wrong, he never misspoke, and he never meant what he just said he meant, and you&#039;re all racists for implying otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But see, when Obama acted like he really wasn&#8217;t getting serious about NK earlier, in fact it was just the opposite&#8230;and when he mealy &#8211; mouthed his tepid whatevers to the Iranian citizens being killed in the streets, what he really <i>meant</i> was&#8230;blah, blah, blah. Teh One&#8217;s never wrong, he never misspoke, and he never meant what he just said he meant, and you&#8217;re all racists for implying otherwise.</p>
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